Here we would like to take a closer look at one of the Ten Commandments — Exodus 20:14 — the 7th Commandment — which virtually everyone takes at face value:
“Thou shalt not commit adultery.”
We don’t pretend to be experts on Bible translation, but we believe that if we look at the big picture — the major themes of Genesis and the Old Testament in general — and use some disciplined reasoning — we can succeed in following Paul’s words,
“Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.”
–1 Thessalonians 5:21
But also taking heed of Paul’s warning,
“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.”
–2 Corinthians 11:3
We will start by taking the words of Genesis 5:1 quite literally:
“This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him”
A cursory look at the Hebrew translation of this verse makes it clear that “generations” here means “genealogical annals” and that “man” is translated from the Hebrew word for “Adam”.
The word “generations” here comes from the Greek “genea” — Strong’s 1074 — which means “family” or “race” — that is, in more modern parlance,
“This is the book of the genealogical annals of the race of Adam.”
And note that Cain’s genealogy is not provided in the Bible — and the only reasonable conclusion to draw from that fact is that Cain’s descendants were not considered Adamic — because his wives were not Adamic — and therefore his children were not Adamic — and therefore, not included in the genealogy of Adam.
So we are told that “man” is narrowly defined as only those who are included in the genealogy of Adam — nowhere in Genesis do we find the universalist idea that every biped hominoid can make this claim.
By explicitly stating that Genesis is about the “race of Adam,” it is implicitly suggesting that there are others who are not included in this family or race — such as Cain’s descendants.
Universalism is a complication that has been projected on the Bible to squeeze in every person on Earth into the genealogy of Adam — and considering that Adam and Eve most assuredly were of the same flesh — the same DNA — it is impossible to account for all “races” on Earth coming from a racially homogeneous couple.
Genesis also tells us that all living things He created were distinct “kinds” — from which we get the English word, “kindred” — or those closely related by blood — whose English meaning can be traced back to the Greek “genea” — or race.
We are told that every living creature reproduced following the rule of “kind after kind” — the Hebrew word for “kind” is “palah” — Strong’s 6395 — which means “separate” and “distinct” — and that would include Adam who was also created as a “separate” and “distinct” kind.
The Bible tells us how to identify Adam — and the generations of Adam — by the simplicity of his name — derived from two words in Hebrew — “aw dam” — which, according to Strong’s Concordance means “To show blood (in the face), i.e. Flush or turn rosy” — or “ruddy” — a common trait of kindred white people.
The Book of Genesis confirms that the legitimate descendants of Adam — Adamkind or more ambiguously “Mankind” — who followed this law of “kind after kind” are represented in the preservation of Noah and his immediate family.
God tells us why He preserved Noah — whose genealogy can be traced back to Adam — in Genesis 6:9:
“These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.”
In other words, Noah’s “genealogical annals” — his “generations” — demonstrate that they were “flawless” — unblemished — his ancestors were all Adamic and had followed God’s law of “kind after kind” — remaining “distinct” and “separate.”
And again, an analysis of the Hebrew connotations of “generations” here makes this abundantly clear:
“Nm) rd (דר DR) – I. Generation: As a circle of the family. II. White: From the whiteness of the pearl. KJV (5): white, generation – Strongs: H1858 (דַּר), H1859 (דָּר)”
Like Adam, Noah could be identified as exhibiting “the whiteness of the pearl” — and many of those who were destroyed in the Flood must have violated the law of “kind after kind” by mixing with non-Adamic peoples and thereby losing their ability to truly “show blood in the face” which is possible only when you have the “whiteness the pearl.”
Given these very simple concepts regarding the Adamic creation — and how important the law of “kind after kind” is to the “generations of Adam” — and how the Israelite people were commanded to be a “holy and separate” people — would it be reasonable to expect that at least one of the original Ten Commandments would affirm this law?
If we take the 7th Commandment in Exodus 20:14 at face value with the English translation — “thou shalt not commit adultery” — is there another Commandment that covers the same idea?
The answer is yes — the 10th Commandment in Exodus 20:17 commands us,
“Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife.”
Clearly, “coveting thy neighbour’s wife” is the very definition of adultery — but notice that it doesn’t say, “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife or husband” — why not?
For two reasons — the first is that the scriptures were read and studied only by men — and it was their duty to transmit the law of God to their wives and daughters — the “weaker vessels” according to 1 Peter 3:7.
The second reason is that if both married and single men do not covet their neighbors’ wives, adultery would be impossible for the wives to commit.
So why would God prohibit adultery in the 10th Commandment if He already prohibited it in the 7th Commandment?
Again, the “simplicity that is in Christ” should lead us to question why God would unnecessarily repeat Himself here — and if He is not repeating Himself, then we should consider that the 7th Commandment may not be about infidelity in marriage — and if not, then what?
The Hebrew word for adultery is “naaph” — Strong’s 5003 — and it’s a verb, not a compound word such as “commit adultery” — so as a simple verb it would connote “to adulterate” — and many take this to mean “adulterate a marriage” — but again, that concept is covered in the 10th Commandment.
And if adulterating a marriage is covered by the 10th Commandment, what kind of adulteration could the 7th Commandment refer to if not marriage?
Here we would like to introduce an analysis of Exodus 20:14 that we came across a few years ago — unfortunately, we do not have a link to the original source, but we find that it offers at least a plausible explanation for why the 7th Commandment cannot refer merely to marital infidelity.
What’s interesting is that it begins with the context of Ezra 9 and 10 — which describes the crisis among Israelites who had taken wives — in Jude’s words — of “strange flesh” during the captivity in Babylon:
“Ezra proclaimed to the Lord God that Ezra 9:2 “thy holy seed have mingled themselves with the people of those lands” — and Ezra 9:10, “for we have forsaken thy Commandments” — which is to transgress the Law.
In the original Ancient Hebrew text that is very similar to ancient Phoenician — and not to be confused with modern Hebrew which is quadratic script used by those who practice Judaism — was translated to Chaldee (Eastern Aramaic) after the Babylonian captivity.
Those texts were then written down in the Masoretic texts where we learn from those writings that the English words “commit adultery” are referred to as (na’aph – na’aph)” — or “adulterate adulterate.”
So the question is why would the Chaldee scribes write the word (na’aph) or “adulterate” twice?
This is where we have to investigate this much further. In other words, the Chaldee word for “commit” is (na’aph) or “adulterate” — and the Chaldee word for “adultery” is also (na’aph) or “adulterate.” To any legitimate Bible scholar this is a red flag that demands further investigation.
This is how we know that the Chaldee text was changed in the Masoretic text. With further analysis of the original Chaldee texts, we learn that the English word “adultery” used in the King James Bible should actually be the Chaldee word “dam” which means blood — [the same word that is part of Adam’s name — “aw dam” — or “to show blood in the face.”]
As such the 7th Commandment correctly should read, ‘Thou shalt not adulterate the blood.” Hence the Law or Commandment that Ezra is referring to.
Unfortunately, very few Christian theologians have done the in-depth research of studying the ancient Chaldee manuscripts which prove this. As such, many European Christians have been deceived going back many centuries. I know this is politically incorrect, but it is the truth confirmed by Ezra and the ancient Hebrew and Chaldee texts.”
Nor is it coincidental that when Ezra discovers the extent of these illicit marriages which produced “bastard” or “mamzer” offspring — and how they have broken commandments of God, he admits to “blushing” — and feeling “shame” — from the Hebrew “kalam” [Strong’s 3637] or “showing blood in his face”:
“O my God, I am ashamed and blush to lift up my face to thee, my God”
—Ezra 9:6
God gave Adam the unique ability to blush as a way of outwardly showing the shame of disobedience — an outward sign for all to see.
By mingling their “holy seed” in these illicit unions, Ezra tells us that they have broken more than one commandment:
“Should we again break thy commandments, and join in affinity with the people of these abominations?
—Ezra 9:14
They broke the first commandment by worshiping “strange gods” in Babylon — and in doing so, led them to inevitably breaking another commandment which prohibited the “mingling” their “holy seed” with “forbidden” and “strange” women — which must refer to the 7th Commandment against “adultery” or “adulteration” of “thy holy seed.”
If that is the real meaning of the 7th Commandment, then why has that meaning been obscured — if not hidden — in the translations — even the Masoretic Texts?
We need to understand that the Greek Septuagint was translated in the Third Century BC, but we don’t have the original Hebrew — and the Hebrew translations we now have are based on the Masoretic Text, which was translated back into Hebrew from the Greek and other texts — allegedly also Babylonian Aramaic Targums from the First Century AD.
The “Hebrew” of the Masoretic Texts is not the same as the ancient Hebrew of the original — it is merely an approximation or extrapolation.
Some Talmudic Jews have claimed that original Hebrew translations of the Old Testament were preserved in the temple in Jerusalem — and that the Masoretic Text is somehow based on those scrolls, but there’s no proof of that, and those “original” temple copies no longer exist.
The earliest complete Masoretic Hebrew translation — the Leningrad Codex — was codified in the early 11th Century AD — almost fourteen hundred years after the Septuagint — and over thirteen hundred years after the Dead Sea Scrolls.
And given that the “Jews” who translated the Masoretic Text were not real Hebrews — and they believed that the Babylonian Talmud took precedent over the original Torah — it would certainly be a mistake to trust that their translation is either reliable, objective, or lacking an underlying agenda.
The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in the 1940s showed that there are many radical differences between the Masoretic “Hebrew” translations and the Hebrew of the Dead Sea Scrolls — not surprising, considering it is an extrapolation and reconstruction of a long-dead ancient language.
In translating and understanding the Exodus 20:14 commandment on “adultery,” it’s useful to consider it from the perspective of those Talmudic Jews who translated it in the 11th Century AD — and by that time, “Jews” most certainly were not of the same racial stock as the ancient Hebrews.
And by the 2nd Century AD — according to rabbinical sources — “Jews” had changed the original law of Israelite identity in the Old Testament from patrilineal to matrilineal descent — that is, a Jew genetically inherited “Jewish” identity through the mother, not the father — suggesting that many Israelite men had taken non-Israelite, non-Adamic wives — just as Ezra recounts — and to justify this forbidden miscegenation — and the resultant “mamzer” offspring — they changed the law to cover it up and make it acceptable.
And, again, it’s hardly coincidental that these Talmudic rabbis justify this change to matrilineal descent by twisting the meaning Ezra 9 and 10 — falsely claiming that Ezra was asserting that Israelite identity was established through the Israelite mothers not the fathers — rather than the fact the mothers in Babylon were from prohibited bloodlines.
We know that an Israelite man is allowed to marry non-Israelite women because all 12 sons and grandsons of Jacob could take non-Israelite wives as long as they were from pure Adamic bloodlines — such as Joseph’s wife in Egypt — Asenath — whose father was an Egyptian high priest.
This fact alone provides prima facie proof that the rabbis are lying about the meaning of Ezra 9 and 10.
Under this self-justifying Talmudic perspective, as long as the mother was “Jewish,” the father could be of any race — Adamic or not — an apostasy that the original Israelites would never have condoned — as their laws of marriage were very strict.
Jews are masters at projection — when they interpret the Bible, they want it to reflect back to them and validate their own confused reality rather than what it actually says and means.
Knowing that they themselves are the offspring of proscribed, inter-racial marriages, it’s no wonder that these rabbinical “scholars” would intentionally obscure the original meaning of the 7th Commandment — as they are the living embodiment of its violation.
Another example of how Jews have attempted to hide the true meaning of Adam’s name — “aw dam” — is to claim that it is instead derived from “adamah” — Strong’s 127 — which is a feminine noun that means “dirt” or “soil” — and lacks any connotation of blood or the color of Adam’s blushing face.
We might ask why, when the Bible was translated from the Hebrew to Greek in the Septuigent, the scribes didn’t grasp the problem of “adultery” in the 7th Commandment if it was covered in the 10th Commandment?
The truth is that there was precedence for the Greeks to understand the term “adulterate” in terms of illicit race mixing.
In the Theological Dictionary of the New Testament we read the following different meanings of “commit adultery“:
“Pass. and med. “to be, or to allow oneself to be, seduced,” of the woman “to commit adultery,” fig. of the intermingling of animals and men or of different races, “Aristotle History of Animals,” 32, p. 619a, 10 f.: τὰ γὰρ ἄλλα γένη μέμικται καὶ μεμοίχευται ὑπʼ ἀλλήλων. The LXX uses μοιχεύειν and derivates for the root נאף and derivates, abs. Ex. 20:14 (13); Dt. 5:18 (17); Ez. 23:43; Hos. 4:14; 7:4; cf. Test. Jos. 4:6; 5:1; with acc. Jer. 3:9 (fig. ἐμοίχευσεν [sc. Ἰσραήλ] τὸ ξύλον καὶ τὸν λίθον), also med. with acc. of the man, pass. of the woman, Lv. 20:10: ἄνθρωπος ὃς ἂν μοιχεύσηται γυναῖκα ἀνδρὸς ἢ ὃς ἂν μοιχεύσηται γυναῖκα τοῦ πλησίον, θανάτῳ θανατούσθωσαν, ὁ μοιχεύων καὶ ἡ μοιχευομέην, Sir. 23:23 of the woman: ἐν πορνείᾳ ἐμοιχεύθη.”
–Kittel, G., Bromiley, G. W., & Friedrich, G. (Eds.). (1964–). μνεία, μνήμη, μνῆμα, μνημεῖον, μνημονεύω. Theological Dictionary of the New Testament (electronic ed., Vol. 4, pp. 729–735). Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans.
And given how strict even the Adamic pagan Greeks were when it came to the rules of marriage, it shouldn’t surprise us that the Adamic Israelites also strictly forbade the “intermingling” of “different races” — and perhaps the original readers of the Greek Septuigent would have understood that implication.
As we stated above, none of the Commandments were specifically directed at women — such as warning them to “not allow oneself to be seduced” as many theologians believe — rather, the 10th Commandment prohibits men, married or unmarried, from “coveting” any married woman — if there are no seducers, then wives cannot commit adultery regardless of her intent.
Of course, mainstream judeo-Christians have been misled to believe the exact opposite — and will robotically cite Acts 17:26 to “prove” that all races are of ‘one blood’ in Christ — but we have shown in a previous essay that the meaning of “blood” in this verse does not connote racial or filial commonality.
To sum up, we are certainly not claiming that our proposition here for the meaning of Exodus 20:14 — the 7th Commandment — is the absolute truth — there just isn’t enough evidence in either the Greek or the Masoretic Text to make any such claim.
However, we do believe that there is enough circumstantial evidence — especially from Ezra 9 and 10 — to suggest that there is a commandment against illicit marriages to “strange” women — a commandment that is not adequately explained by taking the seeming prohibition against “adultery” to account for its meaning.
We would also welcome any further evidence to support our theory about Exodus 20:14 from our readers — and if it is persuasive, we’d be willing to incorporate it into the body of this essay.
We certainly are not claiming that this is the last word on this subject — but merely a starting point for further investigation.
Gareth
Hi CFT.
As you are probably aware, ‘those in charge’ often simply change the definition of words and effectively hijack the meaning of words, instead of starting a new word from scratch.
Usury (which is still illegal in the UK) was changed from, “loaning money at interest”, to “loaning money at EXCESSIVE interest”. A subtle change, from the ‘most subtle’ beasts no doubt. More obvious ones are changing the definition of vaccine to introduce mRNA gene editing injections.
Regarding “to adulterate”, the Webster’s 1828 defines the word in the manner in which you described, “To corrupt, debase, or make impure by an admixture of baser materials; as, to adulterate liquors, or the coin of a country.”
https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/Adulterate
Webster’s 1828 can be useful to examine the previous definition of words btw, and I highly recommend it.
bunyip in Australia
From “Is Universalism of God”….
“Many other races, such as blacks and many Hispanics, find an emotional fulfillment in following the rudiments of the bible and Christianity. For them it is essentially a release of emotions – the shouting, dancing, laughter and feeling good. This is what attracts them to Christianity”
That is true of people anywhere, whites as well.
This teaching, which is incorrect, attempts to bolster its argument by tying “universalism” up in a bundle with other things which are clearly wrong and hanging them altogether. I’m not criticizing the rest of what you are saying on the site, that’s all historical stuff and very interesting, but this is a clear error.
I am completely confident and smiling when I tell you that “Is Universalism of God” is one of the silliest documents ever penned by any nutcase in glasses surrounded by his books without knowing Jesus at all.
It leaves one having to justify any conversion based on bloodlines that in so many cases are not there. As an Australian I have perhaps more experience, than this guy does from his study. I have an aboriginal friend who was converted and has seen Christ in visions many times. He says nothing to her about “hold off on the aboriginal mission thing and go back to Downtown Sydney where the real Israelite’s are”. He tells her “back out there with the aborigines Josephine that’s your mission” there is no lineage of blood back to Israel as far as I can tell – but you will be telling me, oh she must have. This is silly stuff.
The benefits according to those of the seed of Israel are known to God, and perhaps they are evident, but they are not the sole receivers of salvation. The bible too many times leads us to see that others are going to benefit in the deepest way possible from what was originally offered to Israel.
I say leave bookworms like this to their fascinations and get in touch with the power of the gospel for yourself.
West
———bunyip in Australia——-
Your belief has the foundation of proof as revealed here —
…..I have an aboriginal friend who was converted and has seen Christ in visions many times……”
Well, you win. Your black friend saw Jesus. More than I can say and most likely, everyone else here too.
If you do return and are SERIOUS ……. I have some questions for you.
CFT
bunyip
“Muslim Claims Jesus Dictated The Entire Gospel Of John To Him Verbatim In A Dream”
https://christiansfortruth.com/muslim-claims-jesus-dictated-the-entire-gospel-of-john-to-him-verbatim-in-a-dream/
“Former Atheist Claims ‘Jesus’ Showed Him The Holocaust Really Happened During A Near Death Experience”
https://christiansfortruth.com/former-atheist-who-had-near-death-experience-claims-jesus-showed-him-the-holocaust-really-happened/
“German Court Rules Jewess Helen Schucman Wrote ‘A Course In Miracles’ Not Jesus Christ”
https://christiansfortruth.com/german-court-rules-jewess-helen-schucman-wrote-a-course-in-miracles-not-jesus-christ/
West
——–bunyip in Australia——–
Where did you go …… Are you coming back?
Do you have Courage? Or are you a Coward?
CHRIST IS KING
West, mate, I wouldn’t bother… we’ve all heard that universal love-in type of Christianity before. They are all spiritually blind! There’s no reasoning with them.
My big-time catholic releatives are like Bunyip. They love telling me about how the peoples of the pacific islands are all filled with the Holy Ghost and God’s love and that Jesus loves them. etc… it’s just not so!
Anyone with an inquiring mind, an ability to reason, can use logic, can think, and most importantly, that God has given the Holy Ghost to to lift the veil off their eyes, can see that what the churches are teaching is just not what the Holy Bible says. God is unchanging, so why would he go back on His word to accommodate the other races of the world?
There’s many Bunyips out there, West! Many, many Bunyips… 😉
West
—–Christ Is King——
Thank you for the encouragement/fellowship. Sorry so late acknowledging your generosity.
“…There’s many Bunyips out there, West! Many, many Bunyips…”
Don’t I know it!
I think what bothers me the most — it is not the likes of what bunyip believes — my problem is that they have no principles. I am a very principled man.
These “bunyips” having been coming into CFT for years, and what frustrates me is their lack of COURAGE to “engage”. I have no problem with what bunyip believes. He can befriend all the Abos and non-whites as he pleases. He will learn the hard way.
My problem is that he is not a MAN. Come back and STAND UP to your challengers. He is a soft-wristed boy posing as a man.
I wonder now if he is even a White man. I have to believe he is not, otherwise, I have to accept the fact that our People have turned into queers.
It is sad to watch in REAL TIME the deterioration of once the Greatest Peoples of all the Earth.
Mark
Bunyip…
We have to determine our theology from the word of God, not from what we feel.
bunyip in Australia
Reading through this thread, I can’t but help feel that we are now starting to forget the power of the gospel of Jesus Christ for salvation, and are sinking it beneath stipulations made a long time before Christ about race mixing. While race purity might be a good thing and its abrogation through marriages has created problems, but the real spiritual Israel is a higher thing again than this, and it will have every race out there in its ranks. To think this is not true is silly, and just doesn’t hold with with the experiences of missionaries who have seen all races become spirit filled believers.
You are probably hating me now for raising this old argument, but hear me out.
God has not allowed it to be obvious as to Israels true identity, it remains something of a personal speculation. If He did, then we here would have totally forgotten about the mission. Wed’ be banging on constantly about Israel and the white race, and the charges against us would seem to be not without merit.
A girl friend of mine, married a black African man, and this man knows the Lord. In fact in a way that I don’t think she did. There was a powerful presence of God about him, and for sure, he was the spiritual head of that family, and a great man for any believer to have as a friend. I have seen so many like this (oh my goodness have I, and I know for sure that it’s totally wrong to think they don’t know the Lord, in every way as much as we can). We remember that Peter was told to “kill and eat” in the vision, we need to account for the fact that the gospel is powerful, and trumps not everything perhaps, but a lot.
(Plus I know of so many visions of heaven from pentecostal people, and others and will say, Chinese Christians do make it, the blacks do make it, former Muslims and Jews (of todays definition) are up there – but I bracketed this because I know you think this is meaningless compared to the words of Deuteronomy or wherever).
I would counsel any christian to question a match not on the basis of race so much as on the degree to which the gospel has taken charge and the spirit of God reigns in the individual, and your personal spiritual journey. The issue with “marrying out” is that quite often its the case that the gospel has not had a full impact, and then you are left with other peculiarities dominating, which or course will impact the future of the race.
But we WERE NOT CALLED TO PROTECT THE WHITE RACE or our speculations about Israel, we are called to serve the gospel of Jesus Christ. The German leader believed in his German blood more than the blood of Jesus, I doubt he ever believed in that. How can he get to heaven? There is something missing in the discourse.
Sure, we do what we can to stop them coming at us like that, within reason. But they want to level us into a terrestrial fight. We know its a spiritual one – we are told in the parabol not to be trying to sort out wheat from chaff. Don’t imagine that you know the limits of the gospel.
If you are to marry a man or women from another race, and now are having second thoughts – here’s a thought – how close to Jesus are you? How close are they? Are you considering a break up because of your pouring over Genesis? Anyone can do that. Why don’t you first recover your first love salvation with Jesus, spend hour after hour with the Lord, see what He says, you might find He shows up and has something else for you to focus on and isn’t bothered by that. Maybe He is, I don’t know, but do it in as much JESUS PROXIMITY as you can muster. Peter would never be able to alter his diet without his JESUS PROXIMITY. Joseph would have divorced Mary, and so on. They were all making their decisions based on threads of scripture until God showed up – “hey, I’ve cleaned it up, you’re good to go”.
Jesus – not Israel, is our God, and Jesus is BIGGER than Israel, even if it turns out that these speculations are right.
Gareth
Hi bunyip.
May I ask why the white race (and only the white race) developed social systems based on Christian/Biblical teachings? Christendom IS from Europe, I’m sure you cannot deny this, but if you can, please elaborate on why.
I’m sure that the ‘beasts’ (aka the non-whites) are capable of acknowledging there is a Creator, in fact there are verses in the Bible where ‘beasts’ are in sackcloth and are lamenting alongside man (whitey).
The main observable (earthly) problem with race-mixed creatures is the fact they are more prone to mental illness and physical illness. There are a variety of diseases that are unique to Jews and/or blacks for example (Jews are ALL race-mixed, as are most blacks).
Does that mean they cannot acknowledge an Almighty Creator? It would appear not.
Sam
Please post this 2nd comment, as I have edited some parts.
Hello all, I am new here.
I recently had to personally end a new marriage once I learned and agreed with the principle of ‘thou shall not adulterate” ones blood line. We had no kids, and I did the best I could to be kind while doing so. I was the men Ezra chapter 10 was speaking about , to put aside strange wives.
Many hours, and deep introspection went into my decision. My parents and sister did not agree, but had to accept that I would end that new marriage.
While reading scriptures, there is a 3 generation and 10 generation principle at play. Blood drift, is a term I coined.
If a Adamic person has a child with a non-Adamic person, then their children are out of the congregation of the Lord for 3 generations. I assume that would mean that these kids would have to have kids ONLY with a pure Adamic person in order to be allowed back. The blood drift would be leaning back towards Adamic blood. The third generation would be 6.25% non-Adamic (gen 1:25% to gen 2:12.5% to gen 3:6.25% to gen 4: 3.125%). So either 6.25% or 3.125% would be allowed back into the congregation of the Lord.
If the same child (half Adamic + half non-Adamic) then has kids with another non-Adamic, then this 2nd generation child would be only 25% Adamic. 3rd generation would be only 12% Adamic.
Blood drift.
I believe there is protection within the Adamic blood. Modern allele studies show that there are 20 allele’s associated with intelligence that has much higher propensity in the Caucasian genes. There are also 20 allele’s associated with spontaneous unrestrained violence which are occurring in the sub-saharan races in much higher propensities. A specific example is the 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene is 9x more prevalent among African Americans than White Americans. The 2-repeat allele may have effects on violence that are independent of the environment. Analysis revealed that African-American males who carry the 2-repeat allele are significantly more likely than all the other genotypes to engage in shooting and stabbing behaviours and to report having multiple shooting and stabbing victims. Now let us look at the Ashkenazis. There are other alleles associated with schizophrenia (NDST3 gene found in 99.9% of the general population, and are 40% more likely to have this disorder), Gaucher Disease (1 in 10), Cystic Fibrosis (1 in 24), Tay-Sachs Disease (1 in 27), Familial Dysautonomia (1 in 31), and Spinal Muscular Atrophy (1 in 41). (see https://www.gaucherdisease.org/blog/5-common-ashkenazi-genetic-diseases/ and https://www.jnetics.org/getting-tested/disorders-we-test-for/). The sub-saharan race has 19% archaic alleles not found in any other race, showing these were created first, which supports the pre-Adamic race belief.
If we stay within our bloodlines, we do not introduce these earlier or corrupted genes/alleles. We do not introduce violence (stabbing and shooting types of violence) or these numerous corrupted alleles found in the Ashkenazi blood line.
When the Edomites were only diluted a certain amount, or corrupted a certain amount, the Lord said to treat them well (Deut 23:7). Later, when their blood drift was much more (you shall know them by their works; child sacrifice, sexual perversions, harming neighbours and strangers and even the animals with unnecessary violence, worshiping Lucifer, hating the ways of the Lord) the Lord had “indignation (enraged, abhor, angry, abominable) for ever”.
When the Canaanites and other races in the promised land had too much blood drift, their alleles/genes were too far gone. That is why the Lord commanded the Adamic Hebrew 12 tribes to eliminate all of the race.
In modern races, there are some members whom are hard working and reasonable to their neighbours. Some African-Americans are such, and are called “uncle tom’s” in their admiration and mimicry of the white race. Conversely, the other members are prone to violence, of the child mindset of not wanting to work and having everything given to them and are prone to tantrums of violence or social disorderly conduct when frustrated. Chris Rock the comedian called these two groups blacks compared to niggers.
What do we do with the reasonable black men versus what to do with the horrific members of the same race? Do we want isolation? Do we segregate to good from the bad, or us from them? Do we behave as Albert Schweitzer did, and always behaved as the aloof master to the childish and somewhat dangerous students, while we help the few of them willing and able to learn? Jordan Peterson made it clear that the United States military spend huge sums of money on low IQ black men, and could not train them to do even basic work in the military. What do we do with these low IQ people? The bible seems clear, come out of them, and be pure of blood – yet do we not still have dominion? The Talmud views all others as animals to be treated with violent disdain. We, the descendants of Adam, clearly have never done that, and we have the altruistic desire to help all creatures of the Lord. If we isolate ourselves completely we have given up our dominion, and Satan the adversary would use or destroy the other races without our influences.
What do we do with members of other races that, by their works, are as rabid dogs? They will never be restored, nor restrained. Even long jail terms still lead to recidivism (more crime when released). Willful murder (not restrained killing by the group based on clear rules and punishments made known in advance), child sex, are two crimes that come to mind which we should think about what do we as the Adamics will do in response.
Mo
Simple. Do not race mix. All races are better by not doing so.
dixie
Public Service Announcement (PSA) about the dangers of race mixing:
https://tv.gab.com/watch?v=64237ced7d27ad126bbe60dc
Hadrian
“A miscegenated people is ungovernable. The anarchy of the Latin American republic is the proof.”
—Gustave le Bon (1841-1931), French author polymath, anthropologist
BC
Numbers 26.51 Israel was numbered/counted at 601,730
Numbers 31.18 Israel warred against the Midianites and killed all but the virgin females
Numbers 31.35 There were 32,000 Midianite females left alive.
32k / 602k = 5.3% dillution in their DNA just for this one war is pretty significant IMHO.
Ezra 10.2 the Israelite leaders were guilty of taking strange wives…???
Something is not adding up for me ! !
Mark
BC:
Not sure what you are saying here. Numbers 31:16 tells us why Israel went to war against the Midianites, and that’s because they lured the Israelites into sin by taking “counsel of Balaam”, meaning worshiping another God, not because the Midianites were racially impure.
The fact that the Midianite virgin females were spared and could be taken for wives proves this.
There’s no “dilution of DNA” here.
Heeby Kikeburger
I have a question about this topic that I have been wondering for a while:
I am a white male, almost purely. I have light skin & red hair, blue eyes, my background is English & Irish with some Scandinavian. However, my grandfather 5 generations ago married & had kids with a Native American woman, it’s a part of my family’s genealogy. I took a DNA test & I came up about 97.6% white, 1.6% Native American & 0.8% Arabic (so maybe my grandmother was 1/2 native 1/2 mulatto & lied to pass as a Native). My extended family members took DNA tests & came up with similar results. I bring this up having already read the CFT article on how Jews manipulate DNA test results, incorporating extra mixed race DNA in otherwise-white people to promote the idea everyone is already mixed race when they aren’t, but that isn’t my family’s case.
So, again, being an almost-pure white male of 97% English, Irish & Scandinavian background, who looks more like a traditional Aryan than anything that was ever mixed… with me being 5 generations separated from an impurity of blood, where does that leave me with “adulterating of blood” & this very traditionalist form of Christianity? Because one of my ancestors technically already separated my family from the race of Adam.
CFT
Heeby, most people who believe they have Native American ancestors do not. They will swear they do. It becomes part of the family lore, but most often than not it’s not true. 100 years ago, it was very trendy to make this claim, as the Indians were romanticized in popular fiction. It’s called “Pocahantas Syndrome”.
The fact that your results also say you are part “arabic” should be a big red flag. How could that be possible? If you were part arab, you’d know how. That’s a rare admixture for a white European, especially an American. Many Sicilians have arab admixture but don’t show that admixture on their DNA results.
How many generations has your family been in America? Where did they live that they could have come in contact with Indians?
The fact that the rest of your extended family had “similar results” is also problematic. These tests are notoriously inconsistent, showing twins and triplets having very different results.
The DNA tests that you take are not real DNA tests. They merely compare your DNA profile to others, and then extrapolate as to what it “probably” is. That’s why “extended” family members should have different results, because if you have Native American ancestry, it is from only one of your parents, and depending on which parent, it won’t show up in your Y DNA results.
Heeby Kikeburger
Father’s (white) side of the family came to America in the 1700s, his side is where the DNA comes from, mother’s family came to America in the late 1800s/early 1900s from Ireland I believe. It may be an “error” in the DNA test, however I don’t think it is, I’ll have to look at the genealogy again. There was some woman who integrated into the family at the time named something native-sounding like “Pumasetch Littleflower”, but I forget the actual name.
My theory as to where the Arabic DNA may have come from, if legitimate, is grandmother may have been a mixed race, part-native Melungeon lying and saying she was Cherokee to get more people interested in her, which was how grandfather may have been able to buy her in the first place (if that rumor is true). The Melungeons were created by captured native slaves (owned by slave-owning Native Americans) breeding with brown slaves brought to America, some of whom were Arab, so that’s one theory.
It may be a hoax since these tests & rumors are unreliable though, you’re right, I’ll have to look into it again & discuss this with relatives when I get a chance.
Tim
I’ve never heard of arab slaves being brought to America. Arabs were slave traders, but Arab slave traders weren’t known to trade in America.
They say that the “error” rate on DNA tests is around 5%, so any DNA results under 5% can be written off as within that probability of error.
Lord Ha Ha
Here’s a university president who claimed Indian ancestry, and when it was checked, it turns out it wasn’t true, though she believed it to be true…happens all the time:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/15/vianne-timmons-canadian-university-president-indigenous-claim
Mo
The leaders in claiming ancestry they don’t possess have yet to be revealed as fraudsters. Jews are not Israelites.
james
Heeby: Good question – I say God bless your GGGGGrandfather – you’re here and here being jew wise. I think that’s better than like West said below in a comment always hoping for blond kids but maybe not having any?
And like CFT pointed out the claim of absolute truth — and God only knows.
My opinion is Blacks have DNA markers that no one else has — and have a culture that’s very different – and jews are of their father, the devil – evil religion and doers anyone that looks can see.
I don’t want to be like them or with them, so how about jews look at non-jews as animals in human form – that’s what this is about?
West
james …………………………..
You said — “…… I think that’s better than like West said below in a comment always hoping for blond kids but maybe not having any? ………………….”
I don’t like to assume if I can help it — but I’m curious what you mean? It kind of sounds like a slight rebuke, but I want to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Would you please explain to me what you meant?
I’m not clear at all what my comment has to do with Heeby’s question/concern.
Thank you.
james
West, I read your comment and thought how you said a long time ago that your soul would suffer from a mistake of having kids with a non-white girl? Well, Heeby’s question is how he has some non-white in him?
So his question where does that leave him being of adulterated blood? I don’t know? But his question maybe a good one for you – no slight intended – it’s a good question for anyone here. I said I don’t want to be like jews that think non-Adamic people are like animals like jews think of us . That’s up to God
West
james ………………….
First, let me commend you for your willingness to engage in a civil discourse. I keep pointing this out because this comment section is devolving into a place where all anyone does is rail on the jews and no one has “fellowship” any longer.
CFT and the regular readers don’t need to be reminded of how evil the Js are. These people who are always railing on the Js ………. I sure hope they are informing people in other places more than they do here. There is a place of course for exposing the JQ. But, “Fellowship” amongst like-minded believers is far more important.
You said — “…..I read your comment and thought how you said a long time ago that your soul would suffer from a mistake of having kids with a non-white girl? ……”
Your memory is better than mine!
I have only been sexually involved with ONE non-white girl when I was in my twenties. A girl from Chile who looked white, but had that slight admixture that often makes a White woman just a bit more mysterious. She was very attractive.
You could be right in that I may have asked the question to myself — what if she were pregnant or what if I had taken her for a wife in the twenties when I was without the Holy Spirit.
And I agree with you when you say that at the end of the day — it’s in God’s hands.
But for me ………………. this issue of Universalism ultimately needs to be answered by the ONLY Absolute Authority that we have — the Scriptures.
Would you agree? What do the Scriptures say?
This is what we all want to know, don’t we? We can’t “guess” or make up our own Theology.
I have said over and over and over again —- I will never tell a non-white person that they have no business reading their bible and believing themselves to be a Follower of Jesus Christ. Never, no-way.
My concern …………………… what do we do now —- for those who have been enlightened with the Truth of revelation through the power of the Holy Spirit?
My problem with accepting Universalism as fact — just opens the door to one of the reasons we are in trouble as a People to begin with. White people have enough problems following God in an all White society or Nation. Accepting Universalism as a Scriptural principle opens the door even more to simply accepting everyone without qualification into our Lands.
It just confuses the problem when we bring in people who are not of us. If this is not already self-evident, I don’t know what is.
Question to you james — do you still hold to the belief that the non-white races — yellow, black and red — come from Adam and Eve or Noah and his immediate family?
I hope you will answer. Just answer from a strictly “Scriptural” point of view.
Of course I used to believe this. I believed it for over 20 years as a judeo-christian. But, since, I have been presented with a different Theological interpretation. And I can’t argue the facts. I find the arguments Universalists make to be very weak and not substantiated with Scripture. The only explanation is one of a “Miracle”. God just with a snap of a finger “changed” a homogenous people into a mixed conglomerate of varying DNA and genetic expression creating 4 totally different people groups — White, yellow, black and red. I just don’t buy it. Why would He do that? And if He did that, why did he not make them equal? No sane White person would ever move to the heart of the Congo. We are incredibly different peoples.
If that Theological Interpertation were true, then I agree with the jews that we should all become brown. So that we are equal. Whites can’t live with blacks. It just doesn’t work.
Also — I don’t think when those of us who do not believe the non-white races come from Adam and Eve are equal to jews. That is an insult and a completely unfair comparison. Those are fighting words! This is where I get frustrated and even angry.
When I say that I believe in Pre-Adamites, I am not saying that non-white peoples are “animals” in the strictest sense; or the same as to how jews view us (goyim).
Not to mention — I love animals. I probably enjoy the company of animals right now over people to be honest. I love horses and dogs and all kinds of friendly animals. I have deer, elk, moose, bald eagles ……….. all in my back yard. I love Nature now in my old age more than I do engaging with people. People in 2023 are mean, unfriendly, selfish, and I find nothing in common with them. I would never call a non-white person an animal. I simply believe they were created prior to Adam and Eve.
When I encounter any person White or non-white, I treat them with respect and kindness UNTIL they reveal their character. I’m not rude to non-white peoples. I still open doors for a non-white lady or even an older non-white man.
White people have incredible empathy for everybody and everything in nature. I can’t say the same for the other races. At least not from my 50+ years of living on this earth.
It really irritates me when those here who are Universalists CONDEMN me to hell because I don’t believe that the non-white races come from Adam and Eve. They are the ones who have the onus of proof. Prove to me that non-white peoples come from the Loins of Adam and Eve or Noah and his family. This they never do.
I’m not saying you have done this. At least I can’t remember if you have done this. But there have been several others. And those who do — will NEVER address articles such as this one.
While I have you james, do you have an objection to this article that you would like to share? Can you offer any Scriptural argument to counter this Article? Or the many others on this site?
I’m at a place in my Spiritual journey where I am very open-minded. I believe I am grounded in Solid Doctrine, but I never want to be so close-minded that I might be missing something.
I just have not heard a good argument “Yet” for the idea that every race of people all descend from ONE common parent.
I am not saying that non-white peoples have no relationship to our Father in Heaven. I don’t know the answer to that question. How will God deal with non-white peoples when they die? I don’t know.
But I have come to the conclusion that I do not believe that God wanted us to integrate in society with them. Look at the condition or fate of the White Western World today. We can’t ignore that being mixed with every race and mixed race peoples from the far corners of the earth has not denigrated us as a whole and has hurt us tremendously.
I mean it wasn’t that long ago — 50 years — when our Lands where majority White and we would be crazy not to want to go back to that time in history. I am constantly missing my life as it was in the 70’s and 80’s. I have a “Remember the 50’s” feed on my Facebook account and everyday I cry looking at photos from the 50’s. What a beautiful place our Nations once were. Did we have problems? Of course. But “violence” wasn’t one of them.
A question I always ask White people —- when White people become a powerless minority in our own lands, will the non-white peoples treat us as we have treated them?
What would your answer be? Do you think asians will step up to the plate for us? Do you think mexicans will come to our rescue? Do you think blacks will allow us safe space?
Seriously think about this question. I believe the answer is NO. And I believe TIME is proving me correct.
Not sure if you pay attention, but the majority of non-white peoples really don’t like us. Of course there will always be the Outlier.
One of my friends that I do business with is from Thailand. She is married to a White man. She is incredibly sweet and friendly and no doubt she would give me “safe harbor” if I ever needed help.
But can we say that about the majority of them? I think they will turn on us on a dime if our Lands ever turn lawless.
What say you?
In Summary — I would really enjoy hearing a counter-argument to this article, if you have one. This is where our focus must lie. What do the Scriptures say?
Landrew
Controlling the narrative.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ancestry-m-a-blackstone-group/blackstone-to-acquire-ancestry-com-for-4-7-billion-idUSKCN2512ES
james
Wow, West, good comment – better then what I can do ? So first I also have jew fatigue we see too much. Fellowship. I recently was told to stop saying jew info at A friend’s bible study. I didn’t know one was a convert jew, so I said I can’t stop, so I’m out – no way jews are 2% .
The memory comes from talking about Raquel Welsh, God bless her soul. For universalism, it’s new to me from here and what Christian denomination or what has been changed or mis-interpreted. I have faith in Jesus and God. Scripturally you ask? about the races, my opinion Blacks have DNA and bone structure only – they have I respect apx 7% of them probably pre Adamic – everyone else is similar DNA could be related?
As to the comparison to what jews think of us and me not wanting think of others is true for me. But jews we should do unto them as they would unto us. I love animals also, but zoos look like jail to me. I have no objection to anything on this site pursuit of the truth, freedom of speech #1.
Whites are 7% of the world – it should be obvious to every non-jew that white people are the Best at everything, good looking, nicest, helping, reasonable, smart, trusting, to make the world better for all.
I see a lot of useful idiots traitors that mock God that are white – and they like all the others that are a problem and taught to hate us. But do not have the true desire or the power to destroy us – it’s all symptoms of the Disease: JOHN 8.44
West
Hey James …………….
You said — “…….blacks are probably pre Adamic ………………………….”
Probably? Where else would they have originated if not during the Pre-Adamic Creation?
Some people will say “blacks” are the result of Demonic/Angelic Sexual Activity with hominids. I don’t buy that theory. But’s its a theory, nonetheless.
You then said — “………everyone else is similar DNA could be related? ………”
Related to WHOM???
By the way —– what is your Native Land? I suspect English is not your native tongue. Aussie? Scot? Welsh? Irish?
james
Hey, West:
Ya, I said probably pre-Adamic – it’s obvious, but I didn’t create them. Ya, I’m from USA – I just didn’t like school, so my writing shows.
CFT has cleaned it up sometimes for me – thanks.
Heeby still had a good question: where does that leave him?
West
James …..
In regards to Heeby, I don’t think it changes anything. He continues to Follow Jesus and strive to do His Will.
End of story.
Gene
Why care about having Native American blood?
Be glad you have no black or Jewish blood. The American Indian was a more civilized race than the blacks ever were and the blacks shared a continent and closeness with Whites in Europe. Only two races in the world scream discrimination to cover their backwardness, jealously and envy of White’s and it is the Jews and blacks.
West
Gene ………………………………..
You said — “……..Why care about having Native American blood……………….”
Question Gene — Did you read the article, or just the comments?
The Article is about the sin of Adultery — which the article defines as having sex with a non-adamic (non-white) person. Whether you realize it or not — you just disagreed with CFT.
In regards to Heeby …………………. let us set him aside for a moment. CFT makes a very good point — it is doubtful, based on Heeby’s description of himself, that his great, great, great Grandfather had a child with an amerasian woman (american indian).
Not to mention — it’s not Heeby’s fault if his ancestor did indeed do such a thing.
But let’s forget about all that for a moment —-
Gene — What do you think about the truth that is being revealed in this article?
Is it a Sin for a White man or woman to mix their blood with a non-white? That is the question.
Do you have any Scriptural rebuttal to the arguments made in the article?
We all have “Opinions” about things. But Scripture is our ONLY Absolute Authority. What does the Scripture say? Not what anyone “thinks” about the intrinsic things of life.
The second part of this discussion would be what is being proposed as the “1 Drop Rule”. Let’s forget that for now. That is a much, much deeper question/issue. We all can agree to disagree on that issue because it is a gray area in my opinion and all we can do is trust God that He is a Fair and Righteous Judge. Nothing we can do about it now here on earth.
Gene
I guess if it bothers Heeby that he has native American blood in his veins which he can do nothing about, then he should follow the advice some of you — he should wait and hope – is it ten generations of White marriages, might cleanse his ancestors or children’s blood of the infection?
You want biblical proof? How to prove it? The Jews proclaim racial purity among themselves even though they marry Whites and blacks and Asian women.
West
Gene …..
You could have just said “No” to my question.
The question was — do you have a Scriptural rebuttal to the ARTICLE.
I wonder if you even read the article.
james
Gene, that’s obvious – one is very different. One is very Evil.
Jimmy
I was unable to figure out how to comment on this post generally, so apologies to Heeby for replying to his comment.
Matthew 5:
27¶Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart
At first glance, this sounds to me more like coveting a woman (any woman), than it sounds like desiring a strange (foreign) woman. Am I missing something?
CFT
Jimmy, that’s a fair question. But again, if Matthew 5:27 refers to the Ten Commandments, it most closely resembles the 10th Commandment about coveting thy neighbor’s wife, or lusting after her. It seems clear that Matthew is admonishing men, not women.
And Matthew 5:27 is just as likely referring to Leviticus 20:10,
“And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.”
Jimmy
Thank you. Isn’t it depressing that the base, lascivious sins are foremost in society today? Men behaving like beasts.
To my knowledge, pride (a subcategory of which is deceit) is the most alarming and decapitating sin, yet pride is celebrated rather than condemned these days. Every man is right in his own mind. It’s impossible to be prideful in God’s presence, yet Satan and many humans still manage to ante up.
That was a bit of a tangent, so to conclude I just wanted to say I’m grateful for all CFT does, and how you do it with a Berean mindset, with humility.
West
Jimmy ………………..
Interesting to note that when the Apostles were dealing with the “Nations” shortly after Jesus left, they believed that the things MOST important for them to know/avoid was one — Sexual Immorality.
Acts 15 — “…Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood.”
It’s an interesting point in time when we really stop to think about it. The Israelites had lived under this system of Law, Justice and Redemption for something like 1500 years.
Then Jesus comes in and radically changes everything. Jesus said much. But the one thing that the Apostles thought most important for the new believers — Avoid Sexual Immorality.
I get it. As a man with Testosterone, I get it. And the jew understood that power/weakness paradigm and exploited it.
Now jump to the present. The jew starts gaining a foothold into Western Civilization and what do we see??? The 60’s, 70’s, 80’s …….. it’s like this snowball of sexual exploitation and now look where we are at.
Weimar Germany is like a microcosm or brief window, of what wrought it could bring. Now look at us.
Mum of many
Hey Heeby Kikeburger, bless you.
You are white, it is not a sin for you to take a white woman and have white children.
You are one of us.
I am the same, white but dna test has a non white haplogroup (my haplogroup is native american x2g). I am from Australia.
I have six beautiful adamic children, a white husband, and lots of time for more children.
non adamic people can be saved and have hope. It is just that we the adamic race are basically the ones who have been given special duties and gifts from God. Do not feel confused about if it is a sin for you to have white children or if you are white. Your living spirit knows what you are, and who your sheperd is.
bless you and I hope you find a lovely wife.
kind regards
West
Mum of many …..
You wrote — “… non-adamic people can be saved …. “
I’m not saying you are wrong or right, but how do you know this???
What Scriptural argument would you make?
We’ve had this discussion numerous times here at CFT. No one yet has made a case scripturally for what you say.
I’d personally like to think that there could very well be a mixed adamic person who truly fears the Lord, loves God with all their heart, and does unto the White race what we have done to others ….and such a person knows Jesus and keeps His commands …..
I would very much like to believe that such a person would find Eternal Life.
But this is my “humanness” speaking.
I can’t necessarily make a Scriptural argument.
Can you?
james
West, you said for Heeby it changes nothing and end of story to my response. And Mum of Many says something nice to Heeby, and you police comments here to believe like you this own topic – if your not white, your out of Christendom. I think that’s Gods decision. And yes we know you don’t know. That’s why I asked where that leaves Heeby with his non white addmix blood to you? I see your comment now says more than end of story.
West
James…….
Not sure your overall point.
“… police comments …”
Man ….. is that really how you interpreted my comment???
I’m merely inviting a conversation.
People come on here often and make emphatic statements backed by human emotion.
All I am asking is that someone provide a Scriptural argument for said position.
Policing???
I personally am still wanting to learn. Maybe I missed something. Maybe someone CAN make a Scriptural defense.
I don’t have any ill will towards “Mum of Many”. I hope she comes back and has a dialogue with us.
I don’t believe Heeby has non-adamic blood. This is a myth — a popular thing to claim 100 years ago.
And like I said, if any one of us has mixed blood …… it wasn’t our fault!!!
God has no reason to punish someone for the sins of their father.
James — does it not interest you that no one yet has been able to make a Scriptural argument for Universalism?
Does that not intrigue you?
This may be a simplification — but when we look at the White world today; the state of affairs for the White Race ….. its pretty abysmal. I think you would agree.
And one of the reasons for this, is that our Ancestors thought with their “heart” and did not seek counsel from God through His Word.
EMPATHY is our double edged sword.
Probably too late to fix it today. But do we want to endorse a message of Universalism, because it “feels nice” when it might not be true?
Do we want to give confidence to a young Adamic man who thinks he is in love with a non-adamic girl?
Our Ancestors screwed up. Do we copy them, or correct them?
Hey …. I would be thrilled to learn that Eternal Life is available to all who meet the moral requirement.
I just have come to learn to never trust MAN again.
God is now my Master Teacher. What does God say???
This is what we should be asking.
Not what our human heart desires.
Sorry if I caused offense to you James. I sense you are not comfortable with my presence here. Not sure why.
I’d like to talk it out with you, if that interests you.
Jude wrote — Contend earnestly for the faith.
This is my mission statement and I try to do this with the love and patience of Jesus.
How could I have rephrased my question to “Mum”?
She said “non-adamics can be saved”.
I simply asked her to defend that belief with Scripture.
There are at least a dozen articles here at CFT about this topic.
Why should I not be allowed to ask those who believe in Universalism to support their belief with Scripture?
Honestly …. my human heart believes it. But I have yet to be taught by God.
Quite a delimma, huh?
james
West, yes the police comment was just meant as people try to get others to think and be like them. If they’re not in agreement, then it can lead to conflict. You’re always good about trying to dialog and reason, but this topic of universalism or blood mixing, I just leave to God.
I don’t like the way jews look at non-jews, but I’m glad they do – I feel the same back for them. I also feel if another group of people are so different, like blacks are, or other religions that appose Christians like jews, it should be a sin to mix with them, but if a small % like a Brother Nathan or a Clarence Thomas that want to be on our side is sin, then Whites have to go alone as we are 7% of populations. 3 or 4 % hate the other 3 or 4 % of us. And yes, pretty abysmal. So 3 or 4 % of the world are going to get the rest of the world to see it their way, that God is just for them. And DNA says someone like Hebby is in or out ? I just don’t think that.
West
James ……..
You said — “…. this topic of Universalism I just leave to God … “
I think what you meant to suggest is that if there are mixed race peoples who believe themselves to be followers of Jesus Christ — who are we to judge what happens to them upon their death.
And I would agree.
The problem though now arises — are we promoting Universalism to the readers of this website?
You didn’t address a very pressing comment — does it not intrigue you, that no one has been able so far to make a Scriptural case for Universalism; albeit for some “emotional” one?
Again……. what does God say?
Not what you, or “Mum of Many” may say.
For me personally, if Universalism is untrue, I don’t want to have any responsibility giving a young Adamic man or woman the false illusion that if they take a mixed race person for a spouse and procreate ……..
Do you see my point?
If 1000s years ago our Peoples knew the danger of mixing the races, maybe we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place. It’s clear to me now, that the races were never meant to live side by side. It has done nothing but destroy us. I can’t find a single positive.
Do you understand now what I am saying?
What’s in the past is in the past and we can’t repair it. But the things we say today and the choices we make today — do matter.
Back to “Mum of Many” …….
She emphatically said, ” … non-adamics can be saved …. “
Can they??? I want to know.
Does God teach this????
I want to know. So far the case against is in favor.
Mark
I’ll say this, from my observations, women tend to be far more susceptible to universalism than men, just as they are far more likely to be seduced by socialism.
Their mothering instinct is to sympathize and care for the less fortunate. A form of pathological altruism. Men, though, can be far more objective about things and are willing to make the necessary hard decisions that may “hurt” someone’s feelings.
That is why I never listen to women who preach the Gospels. They cannot overcome their own biological instincts and interpret Scripture just at face value. Instead, they want it to be as “inclusive” as possible.
They widen the gate, not narrow it.
Christ tells us that few among believers will be saved. Women will do everything they can to assure everyone that they will be saved because they can’t bear the idea of “one child left behind”.
I do not pretend to sit in the Judgment Seat. However, Scripture is pretty clear about what the Judgment will be based on, and we cannot shy away from pointing that out for fear of hurting someone’s “feelings”.
West
Mark …..
You nailed it!
Why women were meant to be kept QUIET in gatherings where the Scriptures are addressed. Let them learn from their husband or father, before sharing with others.
But I will say this, ultimately it was MAN who failed them.
Jesus come soon!!!
Thanks Mark.
james
West and Mark, I agree with what Mark said about women and would add their right to vote was a way to pit them against men and a big part of how bad things are now.
West, you or me cannot say if non-adamic can be saved. So why is that so important to you? As for me, I question some things like Jonah being in a whale for 3 days or turn the other cheek. And the jews use the story of Jonah at their Yom Kippur day prays as they say Jonah was spared for not telling on the jews for their evil, then they say the pray Kol Nidrei to be forgiven for the next coming year for the crimes they will commit to non jews. THATS A BIG DEAL – how can non-jews take that?
Back to this topic that’s all non jews, so we Whites sure need Help. Maybe the saying goes those that curse Israelites will be cursed those that bless Israelites will be blessed ? meaning us we can all see what helping jews has done.
West
James ……
Maybe it is how I write. Or maybe you are not reading my comments to comprehend them.
I never said I can’t show that Universalism is false to the Scriptures.
Quite the opposite!
CFT has made a VERY, VERY, VERY good case that Universalism is untrue.
Simply write “Universalism” into the SEARCH bar above —
https://christiansfortruth.com/?s=Universalism
You will find at least 6 articles proving Universalism to be false.
I said “in my human heart (empathy) I want it to be true”.
Do you not find it important that NO ONE HAS YET to make a Scriptural defense for Universalism???
I said to you that although we can’t change the Past — we can affect the Future.
Are we promoting LIES by accepting people here to say Universalism is true WITHOUT proving it with Scripture?
Heeby, just yesterday, said Universalism is true without proof.
I’m trying to be nice about this topic. I’m trying to invite you, Heeby and Mum, to have a civil discourse — make your case. Make a case Scripturally for Universalism.
You can’t do it. I can’t do it. I’ll bet Mum can’t do it. I’ll bet Heeby can’t do it.
What does that say???
It says Universalism is FALSE to the Scriptures.
Our empathy and our human heart WANTS it to be true.
But the Question you should be asking is — What does God say?
Again …… one of the very big reasons the White Race (Israelites/Adamites) are on the verge of Genocide, is because we allowed non-whites into our worlds. And as a result our people have mixed their seed with them.
You can hardly tell nowadays what race a person is anymore in White Nations.
Do you think God wanted this?
I do not want to be held responsible for the evil that others do.
Read 2 John 1:10.
“Do not even greet such person…..”
james
West, I should have said can or cannot say if Universalism true or not – it’s still a problem and not helpful to anyone who’s Gods chosen and who’s not. If Whites are, then they need help from some non-Whites, and if a White takes a non-White mate, it should be judged by – are they coming to our side and ways or are they going to a jew muslim hindo geto negroid way?
I mean we can see it if i’ts not hidden – if a Raquel Welch is Christian but part non-White, and people say “well, that’s a problem, son, don’t take her for a wife – the world is not better for her – we don’t need her – she is not good enough for us Whites, son” then you may just not have a wife and family.
West, Whites have a lot of problems, but That’s not one of them. Universalism ? Did God create the Universe, then God knows. But if anyone knows better what’s good for White people like Christian Identity, and a Heeby is out? That’s a bad plan. It could even be subversion.
West
James …….
Here you go — all the proof you need —
https://christiansfortruth.com/?s=Universalism
West
James ….
You wrote —
“….. it could even be subversion….”
I will give you the benefit of doubt, considering you admit to not being very educated, and I will ask you to please RE-EXPLAIN what you just tried to say, before I make a rebuttal.
But it sounds like a rebuke. Again, I’ll point out — without Scriptural substance.
But please, explain your last sentence. Thank you.
james
West. So the plan to judge who’s in and who’s out? That’s just not a good plan – we Whites need some non-Whites’ help – that’s my common sense opinion.
So if saying to a Heeby is out, that’s not helping and could be subversive. If everyone else is out, why help Whites is the point. And again I think we need the help for all mankind to know the jews are every non-jew’s enemy. We obviously don’t want to be like jews. Uneducated Rebuke ? Just a opinion, and more power to CI – I hope the world agrees?
Kevin
James, the idea that Whites need the help of non-Whites in the battle against Jewry is a political stance, not a biblical one. Where in the Bible does it ever say that the Israelites need the help of non-Israelites? It doesn’t. It shows time and again that non-Israelies cannot be relied on in their times of need.
What it does say is that if Israel turns back to God, He will help us, and God is far more reliable and true to His word than any non-Whites you will ever meet.
Personally, I don’t believe that Whites can ever rely on non-Whites in the battle against Jewry. When push comes to shove, non-Whites will side will Jewry because it is Jewry that empowers them and rewards them for ganging up against Whites. Sure, there are few outliers, but we cannot count of non-Whites to help us in our Hour of Need.
The reality is that Jewry is not threatened by non-Whites. They know how to manipulate and control them. As Israeli PM Menachem Begin said of the Jews, “Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races.” He knew that Whites weren’t inferior which is why Jewry must destroy us through race mixing and miscegenation.
The Jew Kurt Munzer said exactly that…”We have devoured the peoples, conquered the races, defiled them, broken their strength, made everything rotten, lazy, and corrupt with our stale culture.” When we allow non-Whites to be accepted as “White”, we play right into the hand of Jewry.
We have all grown up in a world suffused with the Jewish Marxist ethos of the “international brotherhood of man”, “fraternity, equality, and liberty”. When you talk of “mankind”, you are unintentionally empowering this egalitarian racial agenda to destroy us. In the Bible, “mankind” refers only to “Adamkind”, no one else.
If you believe the Bible, you will always be at odds with this fallen world. It forces you to choose between what God says and what the corrupt, satanic world says it “good”. It seems that you’re willing to “go along to get along” as if we can somehow win this battle through political alliances with those who will betray us when our backs are against the wall.
As far as Heeby goes, my advice would be for him to find a wife who has the same racial background as himself, rather than marry someone who is unmixed. If he truly cared about the White race, he would do that.
james
Kevin, You make a lot good points. I think this is a battle for the world against the jews, and I understand take out the whites, the rest are sitting ducks. And we cant just vote our way out – we need the table turned against the jews with non-whites who they put on us with jew lies.
I think a lot of non-whites are learning the jew problem – we sure could use some leaders to verify it. It is what’s best for all the world.
The topic of Heeby I can’t see him as a problem to us or God .
https://nationalvanguard.org/2023/04/adolf-hitlers-miracle/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/deagel-population-forecast-of-nearly-70-percent-fewer-americans-by-2025-is-starting-to-look-prophetic/
Some good reads today
West
James …..
You said —
” …So the plan to judge who’s in and who’s out ….”
?????
What on Earth are you talking about?
Where did I say anything about whether someone is in or out?
And then…..OUT OF WHAT?
I have no idea what you are saying as it relates to my comments.
I really wish you would read comments to comprehend them. Maybe read them over several times before replying.
You then said —
“So if saying to a Heeby is out ….. “
???????????
Again, what on earth are you saying?
Where did I say anything about whether Heeby is in or out?
And what would he be in or out OF???
I honestly can’t understand you. We are speaking two different languages.
I give up.
All I can say is —
What does God want? What is God’s Will?
Every article on this site — CFT — is Scripturally Backed, i.e., supported with Scripture.
You, on the other hand, NEVER use Scripture when making a point.
Something you should seriously consider.
The only Absolute we have in this World is God’s Word.
Not how we feel.
I concur with Kevin’s words to you.
Maybe Kevin can get through to you. I clearly can’t.
james
West, Ok from the start of this topic no beating around the bush what does it mean to a non white or a part white like Heeby. Kevin said no bs Heeby is tainted and would harm a white wife . Why didn’t you say that? maybe Heeby’s feelings?
So is the CI belief that non whites can’t be saved? I know we cant speak for God in the end only He knows. It reminds me of non-jews are animals in human form – jewish bs. I know this is important to you when you said it would harm your soul if you had a family with a Raquel Welch – I said more power to you. I think she is A plus not A minus to all and God.
So my opinion is different from yours on that. What if you get A blood trans fusion of non-white blood or give blood to a non white – is it really clear? I said does that mean A Heeby is out OUT OF WHAT ? being saved. Christianity this topic are non whites wasting time with white Christianity.
Kevin
James, what I said about Heeby seeking an appropriate wife applies to all of us. I believe every one of us should choose a spouse who is of similar ethnic background in order to preserve the White race.
In other words, White northern Europeans should seek similar in mates, and the same is true for southern Europeans. I don’t think, for example, English should mix with Spanish or Italians or Portuguese. Germans should not mix with Romanians or Greeks. All ethnic groups should only inter-marry with similar groups.
Only that way can we ensure that the White race as a whole will remain stable and as pure as possible.
placard
Wasn’t there some quote by an ancient Greek (I can’t remember who it was) who said (and I’m paraphrasing here) that bastards are the enemy of those of pure blood? Anybody recall that?
James Smith
Strabo said that the Edomites mixed with the Nabataean Arabs. Since “Ereb” means mixed, that means Jews might even have pre-Adamite blood. However, not much is known about those two groups, even as the satanic Talmud mentions that Esau’s head was buried in a cave. I think Jews and Arabs are in mutual agreement to keep Edomite history a secret because DNA tests would prove that both groups descend from them, and Christians would find out who their enemies are.
West
James Smith ……………….
You said something interesting I hope you will unpack.
You said — “….that means Jews might even have pre-Adamite blood…….”
What do you mean by “might have”?
Is this not what defines a modern jew? Jews are jews because they are of mixed race, first and foremost. Second is their satanic religion — the Babylonian Talmud.
If we found a White person, claiming to be a jew, and he is 100% White, then he would be an Israelite/Adamite.
Right?
Or do you have a different opinion about what constitutes a jew.
Thanks.
James Smith
“What do you mean by “might have”?
Is this not what defines a modern jew? Jews are jews because they are of mixed race, first and foremost.”
Do you know for sure who they mixed with though?
I’ve been trying to figure out the origins of Arabs and Jews. I’ve seen an article that says they’re both mostly of Canaanite ancestry (which runs contrary to conventional wisdom that Arabs are from Ishmael, who was Semitic and Adamic).
Edomites were Adamic as late as the Pentateuch was written (Deuteronomy 23:8), but they could have mixed with other groups more recently.
Ashkenazi Jews did come from the Khazar kingdom (it’s a red flag that their Y-DNA J1 Cohanim common ancestor is only 1,100 years old; it run contrary to their claims of being Israelites), but the Jews formed the elite class, who would have been more Caucasian than the general population, so they don’t appear to have much Mongoloid ancestry. Some might not have it at all.
Perhaps Y-DNA J1 is an Arabic/Edomite marker that came when the Edomites mixed with Nabataean Arabs.
I’m starting to put the pieces together that Jews are Arabs + Europeans, but their Mongoloid and Negroid admixture is small to non-existent.
West
James Smith ……………….
Thanks for the reply.
We were having this conversation on a different article some time ago. Now I can’t remember which article, so I’m not able to cite it.
I think for me, I just try to keep this “question” as simple as possible.
If you study the anthropologists/archaeologists/genealogists of the early 20th century (Madison Grant, Lothrop Stoddard as an example) they seem to classify the races into 4 distinct “Kinds” —- White, black, yellow and red.
Check out the cover of this book written in 1888 — http://esau.today/pre-adamites-humanoids-before-the-first-white-man/
The author makes 7 — Pre-adamite classifications or “kinds”.
I tend to use the 3 Pre-adamite “kinds” thesis as it just makes it easier to process. But it could very well be true that there were more than 3 different “kinds” of pre-adamites. How would we ever know? It’s impossible.
For simplicity —- I believe the yellows were planted in Asia; the blacks were planted in the heart of Africa; and the reds were planted in remote corners of the Earth. I suspect the first Adamites came into contact first with the yellows in the beginning.
Back to my main point —
So, for me, to keep things simple, as soon as an Adamite or an Israelite mixed his/her seed and produced a child —- this is the first “Jew”.
Then it just becomes a mess after that.
You said — “…..I’m starting to put the pieces together that Jews are Arabs + Europeans, but their Mongoloid and Negroid admixture is small to non-existent……”
Agreed.
You also said — “…..but the jews formed the elite class, who would have been more Caucasian than the general population, so they don’t appear to have much Mongoloid ancestry. Some might not have it at all……”
Yes! I agree as well. It seems to me, the more “Caucasian” blood a jew has, the more dangerous they are intellectually. The less Caucasian blood, the more violent. Both working together is a nightmare — ie., the Bolshevik terror.
On your last sentence — “….some might not have it at all ……….”
I think you are suggesting there may very well be PURE Israelites believing themselves to be “jewish” and acting like a jew? That is a possibility.
Thanks for the reply and weighing in! Cheers.
Mike
West, it seems to me that judeo-universalism depends on Christians being completely ignorant of how genetics works. Even micro-evolution, small adaptations, not speciation, allegedly takes 10,000s of years.
If Adam was created only 7,000 to 10,000 years ago, according to the Bible, that’s simply not enough time for any significant genetic changes to take place. And definitely not enough to change from one race to another from Noah’s descendants, and that’s even a much shorter time.
DNA is incredibly stable and resists any changes because it has to be, otherwise chaos, mutations and death.
Many Christians have compromised, even the Pope did, and now claim that God created man through evolution, for some such blather. But evolution doesn’t change much in such a short amount of time.
Christians need to stop being so gullible, and universalism demands that they throw all common sense out the window.
West
Mike ….
Amen! Let us pin your comment to the Top of every article!!!
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JB
Good argument; great site; as always, thank you.
Peter
I agree, this is my favorite site, hands down. Always look forward to their new articles. And they are pretty funny too.
West
Phinehas —-
Is yet another supporting reference.
I know there has been some discussions regarding who the “Midianites” were. This is where I am not “strong” in knowledge. So, maybe someone who is educated as to anthropology/history/archaeology might weigh in.
But I suspect that if this Midianite woman was “White”, Phinehas would not have known with complete confidence that the Israelite was in violation of “adultery”.
And I have a hard time believing God put a plague on all of Israel if the violation was simple adultery between an Israelite man and a White woman. The Israelites were allowed to take “virgin girls” from conquering tribes for wives. Not to mention, Jesus rebukes Moses for allowing divorce and remarriage as it is implied, happened often (Matthew 19:8).
I tend to believe the Midianite woman was obviously not White, as therefore, the implications were obvious.
Anyone else?
Mark
Midian was the son of Abraham and Keturah, so he must have been Adamic.
Cozbi the daughter of Zur was a Midianite and therefore Adamic (Numbers 25:15)
Moses’ wife was a Midianite, and must have been Adamic (Exodus 2:16-22)
And in Judges 1:16 Moses’ father-in-law is referred to as a Kenite, which means that both the Midianites and original Kenites must have been closely related and Adamic.
I do believe that all of these tribes eventually became mixed with the arabic peoples.
West
Mark ……….
Thank you.
But this woman from Media, could have been a mixed race non-adamic.
I’m just trying to understand how Phinehas knew clearly what he was doing.
I don’t know what married women wore back in those days to identify themselves as a man’s wife. I’m certain they didn’t wear diamond rings on their finger.
So, the “Plague” was simply men having affairs with women ineligible for marriage??? (Rhetorical)
A “Plague”. That’s pretty intense.
Deuteronomy 24, I don’t believe, is permission for divorce and remarriage. I believe Deuteronomy 24 is an instruction that if a man puts away a legitimate wife and then wants her back after she has gone and laid with another man — that the first husband must not take her back as she has been defiled.
It appears by Jesus’ words in Matthew 19 that this kind of thing was happening maybe rather frequently. But no mention of a plague.
So ……………. what brought about this “Plague”? Again …………. rhetorical, because we can’t really know for sure.
But I wonder if the reason God was so upset was because the Israelites were having sex with mixed race women. Just a thought or an opinion.
The moment Phinehas drove his spear through both — the plague ended. That’s a pretty strong message.
Thank you very much for weighing in. This is the kind of discussions I grow from here at CFT.
I’m so tired of talking about the jews.
We need a section for Newbies —- informing them of the JQ. And then we need a section for those who are past drinking milk and are now into the eating of meat. 🙂
Thanks, Mark.
Gene
The Newbies apparently are those who question the Bible and the Jewish question or doubt it or think differently or disagree and those drinking the milk, who agree with yours and other’s views about the Bible being the absolute knowledge of everything.
Or that, to justify the evil in the world that we are told that we are here to suffer.
Anthropology is proving that the Jewish claim of the earth being about 5800 or so years old is not true and that many races or civilizations have been on Earth, tens, hundreds, or even thousands of years ago and animals may existed millions of years ago.
So when did god create the world? He created it apparently in cycles, but some say that he had help. Help?
They say Christians are the least informed.
Kevin
This comment is incoherent and impossible to respond to. I won’t even attempt to try to understand it.
james
Gene just want to say if you wrote a book I would be interested in reading it.
Gene
I can’t understand all of the references to Israel, as being taken for granted as White, when the Jews consider the Bible to be their book and given their religious beliefs to the Christian world as they claim that Jesus and Mary were also Jews.
And even religious preachers and churches convey or promote the idea of Solomon, David, Moses and others were Jewish. Or that the bible is a Jewish book .
There is one Christian program, in which a rabbi explains Bible prophecy and the women sit in awe of his explanation, as though they can’t believe his knowledge and is so learned in Bible history when , right to their Christian faces , he is describing the bringing about, not of their Jesus , but the Jewish kingdom on Earth.
Kevin
Gene, you haven’t figured out yet that Jews have been lying about the Bible for the last 2,000 years? They lie about everything else, but you think they are telling the truth about the Bible just because other brain dead Christians listen to what the Jews say about it?
I get the feeling you haven’t read any of CFT’s articles on the Bible, and you’re just more interested in using this comment section to vent your own ideas rather than trying to engage with what’s actually said here.
Gene
Then if the Jews are promoting the Bible and lying about the authorship about it, why do you people keep talking to each other and trying to convince those who discover this site and make comments that you are authorities on the Bible. They are already here. and not because of any of you, but because they were searching and came upon, either by another reference or fate. It not as some of you who spend all your time reading and telling everyone what they should and should not believe.
Why not prove to others outside this site that the bible is not a Jewish book. That they lie. And as far as using this site to make my own comments, how about taking the names of the commenters on this site and counting up and keeping track of how many others they correct to see who is using this site to push their own agenda, knowledge and whatever is in the back of their mind..
I began to believe a long time ago , that the? Bible was being used as a blue print for world domination. And that is why religious preachers preach and believe that the bible is prophetic.
OK , Kevin, you can tell or vent your own idea’s here. You can quote the Bible all you want while as they say : the world is going to Hell in as hand basket.
Is your Bible quotes solving any of the world’s problems?
.
CFT
Gene, you obviously have never read any of our essays on the Bible, which prove that it isn’t a “Jewish” book written by “Jews”. If you read them, which we doubt, you didn’t understand them or made no attempt to understand them. You’ve rarely if ever commented on those articles, so we assume you haven’t read them.
Start here with this essay, and if you can’t refute it or don’t understand it, there’s no point in going any further with you:
https://christiansfortruth.com/who-are-jews/
If it makes sense to you, then we suggest you read the following essays, if you truly want to know why it’s not a “Jewish” book:
https://christiansfortruth.com/category/bible-studies/
As far as the so-called “Jews” making Biblical prophecy come true, well, that’s part of their deception. And any Christian preacher who claims they know when the End Times will come based on world events are LIARS. Even Christ said He doesn’t know when the End will come, so how can they arrogantly predict it? And how can you criticize the Bible if these Jews and preachers misuse and abuse it?
And, no, Gene, we’ve never put ourselves in the position of being “authorities” on the Bible. We have written many essays on the Bible, and used extensive verses to back up what we believe, but we always encourage our readers to think for themselves, and if they don’t agree with our exegesis, we encourage them to prove where we are wrong, but most are not willing to do so. They’d rather just tell us that we are “going to burn in Hell.”
If you are not willing to show us where we are wrong in our Bible essays, please refrain from leaving any more comments about the Bible. We will no longer publish your comments on that subject if you aren’t willing to engage us in a rational, logical discussion.
Kevin
Interesting. I honestly never noticed that the tenth commandment was directed only toward men coveting another’s wife. And yet all mainstream Christian theologians explain the seventh commandment as directed toward both men and women.
Makes no sense.
The redundancy is a big red flag.
That fact alone should make every Christian want to figure out this contradiction, but they don’t because their pastors don’t.
Imagine how different Christianity would be today if every Christian believed that “thou shall not adulterate thy bloodline”…..the whole house of cards would come crashing down….
Bursen's way
I wonder how long it’s going to take for some judeo-christian to read this essay and quote Galatians 3:28, their go-to verse….
“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”
If you tell them that the Galatians were Israelites from the lost tribes, they will have no idea how that changes the meaning of that pet verse.
Lawrence
The fact that Jews so heavily promote race mixing in the media is all the proof I need that it is evil, in rebellion of God, and it serves their satanic agenda.
The fact that Jews after WWI and WWII have flooded Germany with blacks and muslims is proof that they are using race mixing to destroy their Christian enemies.
And they’ve brainwashed Christians into believing that there’s nothing wrong with race mixing, to the point that Christians will robotically do the Jews’ bidding and demonize any Christian who frowns upon it.
I find it unfathomable that Jesus Christ would condone a marriage between an Israelite and an African negro, arab, or asian.
But Christians at this point now worship a “different” Jesus, a kosher Jesus who just so happens to agree with Marxist Jews.
How did we get here?
RB
The same way that we arrived at The Chosen having Joseph be black as the night and Mary being some swarthy Arab, with Christendom having no outrage over this.
I know I bring this up often, but it chaps my hide that all of the supposed Israelites in that show are of entirely different racial makeup from one another, meanwhile most of the Romans are pasty white fellows who are just a swastika away from being Waffen SS stereotypes.
But I can only guess that even this was too much white for its Mormon & Jew (is there a difference?) showrunners, and its evangelical director, as they made the Germanic white Roman into Arnold Schwarzenegger: he knocked up his non-white maid.
For extra sand kicked in our faces, the show is telegraphing that this swarthy byblow is going to be the servant of the Centurion who is healed remotely by Jesus.
f. mohr
A recent Gallup poll found that 94% of Americans approved of marriages between blacks and whites today, compared to only 4% in 1960 around the time I was born. Amazing.
https://files.catbox.moe/0t7pv8.jpg
Paul Michael O'Donohoe
Polls can be faked – I do not trust official polls.
West
Paul Michael …………………
True, but what are you saying — that secretly most white peoples hate the fact that there is so much race-mixing???
It seems no one is putting much resistance up.
How about Scott Adams!!! Of Dilbert fame. I thought by now he would have bowed down to the gods of diversity; but he is holding firmly.
I’ve always wondered when someone with recognition would finally have the balls to speak Truth to power. He can afford it. Most can’t.
bailiff
I think a lot of white people would claim they approve of inter-racial marriage because they don’t want to appear “racist” to the pollster, but when it came time to actually choosing a spouse, they would almost always choose another white person.
Sparrow
100% agree. Propaganda
Gene
Thanks to the television shows, Archie Bunker and in the Heat of the Night, we can , by law be required to tolerate homosexuality, mixed marriages and relationships.
And the gun issue and reparations for the blacks is becoming a common topic in the news.
West
Lawrence ………….
Great point!
I mean really, this is all we are seeing now in society as a result of that massive brainwashing program/propaganda.
“…The fact that Jews so heavily promote race mixing in the media is all the proof I need that it is evil, in rebellion of God, and it serves their satanic agenda….”
Astute Observation.
“…..How did we get here? ……..”
I think your question was Rhetorical
I believe God hardened our hearts post ww2. This is when it seems we really lost our bearings.
We failed to study history and think for ourselves. We allow the Js to do the thinking for us.
Big mistake.
Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh were warning our fathers and grandfathers but they didn’t listen. My dad is guilty. I tried to talk to him before his death and he admitted to me that he was aware of both Lindbergh and Ford, but didn’t give any credence to their warnings. Shame on him.
JB
Look how hard it is today to wake people up to the Khazarian Sabbatean “Jews”…
I don’t think you should condemn your father for that, but that is my (worthless) opinion.
West
JB ………………
I agree with you re: the difficulty of addressing the JQ in the year 2023.
But back in the early 20th Century, it was Ok to talk about the JQ. We could talk about them in public then. Today ………………. no way!
So ………………. if there ever was a time to have stopped this Menace, it was pre-ww2.
I mean, Henry Ford was huge back then. He wrote articles (which turned into a book) addressing “facts” about jewish perfidy. Then comes Charles Lindbergh and Father Charles Coughlin.
There is no excuse for my father’s generation.
I’m not condemning him by the way. I will let God sort that one out. I’m just ashamed of him, that’s all.
He was a good provider — he was a physician and we had food on the table and a roof over our head. But as far as being a teacher of Truth and Wisdom, he failed miserably.
Again ………………….. he is in God’s purview now. I trust God to deal with him accordingly.
John
“7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.”
That’s why maybe the jews think that the name Adam derives from the Hebrew noun “adamah”, meaning “the ground” or “earth”.
Mark
That’s certainly the excuse they use to interpret Adam’s name that way, but names often have more than one meaning, and they chose to completely ignore the other meaning, which is telling.
Sparrow
This is the very reason The Teacher (The Holy Spirit) was given to us. So to know Jesus Christ, The Word made flesh (Adam), the Aleph and Tav (Alpha and Omega), the First and Last, the First Covenant and the Last Covenant, by Truth and Spirit a sharp two edged sword…to enter back into the Kingdom we have been ‘divorced’ from because of sin. [Book of Hosea]
Revelation 2:12-17
New American Standard Bible
Message to Pergamum
12 “And to the angel of the church in Pergamum write:
The One who has the sharp two-edged sword says this:
13 ‘I know where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is; and you hold firmly to My name, and did not deny My faith even in the days of Antipas, My witness, My faithful one, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells. 14 But I have a few things against you, because you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who kept teaching Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols and to commit sexual immorality. 15 So you too, have some who in the same way hold to the teaching of the Nicolaitans. 16 Therefore repent; or else I am coming to you quickly, and I will wage war against them with the sword of My mouth. 17 The one who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who overcomes, I will give some of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white stone, and a new name written on the stone which no one knows except the one who receives it.
Strange women, prostitutes, sexual immorality, wine and many more words to describe Babylon (Satan’s throne) who is the great whore.
Television, movies, the internet, the library are all avenues to this great whore who lies 24/7 and who causes us to ‘eat’ things sacrificed to idols (man). It is any writing and teaching that is not The Word of God.
This great whore is what defiles our blood and our covenant with God.
She is hated by Him.
From her comes all manner of worship to include being a slave to her by ‘paycheck’ or ‘silver and gold’ from her.
Everything that we know that has not been taught to us by Truth and Spirit is the cause of our destruction. The Sons of God are not made of flesh…but are the fruit of the Spirit.
Babylon produces the opposite which is the fruit of death.
In simplicity The Word by Truth and Spirit (Tree of Life) which gives us revelation of the knowledge of God (instead of good and evil) grants us redemption (silver) and salvation (gold) to enter back into the Kingdom of God with a marriage certificate as His Bride.
Hebrew comes from the word Eber (or E’ver) which means to cross over (crossing over into the spirit into the Promise Land)…and it is where the word Passover comes from.
Only by Truth and Spirit can that happen and not by religious observances. Understand that the number ‘seven’ means ‘Oath’ and by an oath there is a witness (two)…
West
Sparrow ……………..
Are you “agreeing” with the article?
The article is an argument against Universalism.
But you have made comments here rebuking those who disagree with Universalism.
So ………….. I’m just a little confused by the point of your comment.
Maybe you could elaborate?
Sparrow
My comment does not agree with ‘Universalism’. That is why I pointed to the problem…Babylon the great whore and explained why God hates her. Everything that we are witnessing is the fruit of the great whore.
I also suggested to understand what God deems as evil from it being laid out in the Book of Hosea. He also reminds Israel how we are to repent and return to Him and be forgiven. Gods Kingdom is spiritual by understanding Him and knowing Him.
Only in this can what we witness today with all of the evil of Babylon is by returning to Him and doing what He sent His Word (who is both covenants) Jesus Christ to Israel…the lost. Most Christians are still in Babylon where Satan’s throne is.
When we identify the world’s condition…this is what it is. No ‘religion’ can usurp God’s Promise by making a mockery of it.
He knows who the liars are.
West
Sparrow …
Thank you for the clarification.
Would you like to address the actual article?
I’d be curious to hear your thoughts/objections.
I don’t rebuke you for having your beliefs about Universalism.
My problem Sparrow, has been that you have a problem with me. You have condemned me for asking questions about non-adamic peoples. Shaming me for having thoughts and doubts.
Just so we are clear.
Thanks.
Bahr
The Sixth Law of God
By V.S. Herell
adulteration, adultery, Mamzers, Mix, mixed, Pastor V.S. Herrell, Race Mixing, sixth law
https://dualseedlinechristianidentity.home.blog/2020/02/11/the-sixth-law-of-god
or
http://everettramseydd.com/adultery_vs_herrell.html
luke2236
Just thought of something else… the idea of ‘do not adulterate’ is so prevalent in Scripture that God tells us to not even mix the threads/materials in garments! See Leviticus 19.
So the position this article on the more correct meaning of the Commandment is made even stronger by example.
Chris Maley
Fascinating interpretations of what appears to be seriously complicated ancient texts.
I think it was the British or all of the European colonial powers back in the day that translated them (i.e The Bible) for the benefit of the uneducated masses who were at least 80% illiterate back then, stretching right up to this century.
To me it’s doubtful they could have understood/comprehended it all as intended. Many don’t even understand today, or want to, regardless whether they can read and write or not.
West
Chris Maley ………..
To me it’s doubtful they could have understood/comprehended it all as intended.
I tend to agree with you. But what about “instinct”?
We used to have it. The Js would call us racist for it — White Flight as an example.
In my youth, before finding Jesus, I was attracted to any hot looking girl. I grew up in S. California so we didn’t have blacks. But we had asians and south americans and I dated a few.
BUT I NEVER EVER CONSIDERED THE IDEA OF TAKING ONE FOR A WIFE.
I always dreamt of having little blonde headed blue eyed babies running around my house. Boys and girls who looked like me.
That was “instinct”. God’s Ways written upon our hearts.
It wasn’t long ago when taking a non-white for a wife was taboo and only a very few would do such a thing.
How will God judge in the end??? I haven’t a clue.
I suspect if a White man has a non-white wife ………………….. he has other Theological issues as well (2 Corinthians 11:1-4). But that’s just an opinion.
luke2236
Makes perfect sense to me.