E. Michael Jones ‘Logos And Africa’ (Part 2)

(Bitchute) Here we will continue our look at Catholic writer and apologist E. Michael Jones’ discussion of “Logos And Africa” in which he attempts to demonstrate that Africa’s chronic failure to develop any semblance of civilization is the result of Africans’ failure to convert to Catholicism, which Jones claims is the only legitimate representation of “Logos” in the world.

Before continuing, you should be sure to read Part 1 of this series — “E. Michael Jones Claims Africa Never Developed As A Civilization Because It Isn’t Catholic” — which can be found here.

Jones is being interviewed by a black African — Robert Odero, professor of religion and philosophy at Strathmore Academy in Nairobi — about Jones’ book Logos Rising.

They continue:

Odero asks, “Is there a relationship between the Trinity and monogamy?“

Jones responds,

“The Trinity is a family — there’s only one spouse….as soon as you have a polygamous society, the father recedes into the distance, and the mother becomes much more immediate…

You can’t have an intimate relationship with the father if you are one of 57 children, and your mother is one of 27 wives….when God [the Father] becomes distant, you can’t figure out the universe.

This happened in Islam because they allowed polygamy — Jesus Christ is a son, a prophet who has been demoted…

…Polygamy is the scourge of economic development in East Africa.”

[CFT: The problem with this Trinity doctrine is that the Israelite people were largely a monogamous people, and they had no concept of the Catholic Trinity — and if the Israelites managed to be monogamous without understanding the Trinity, then why can’t Africans?

And how can Jones compare the Trinity to a family when the Trinity has no wife figure — or is this just Jones talking down to Odero by using a metaphor that he can understand?

Jones claims that African chiefs had many children with many wives so that they could work for him — but this is exactly what White Christian farming families have always done — have large families to help work the family farm — but the difference is that White Europeans have a tradition of monogamy that even pre-dates Christianity.

Again, Jones falsely presumes that pre-Christian Europeans were just like Africans — and must have been polygamists just like Africans, but from what historians know about pre-Christian Europeans — including the Greeks and Romans — that was not the case — they were largely monogamous tribes, including their tribal chiefs and leaders — yes, with a few exceptions.

Many of the elite would have concubines — even many Israelites in the Old Testament had them — but this was not in anyway similar to the polygamy as practiced by Africans.

The Mormons — whose roots are in the occult and freemasonry — are the only “Christian” sect that practiced polygamy — yet despite that, the white Mormons managed to prosper economically and produce a very stable society — the entire state of Utah was built largely by Mormons.

So we can see that the metaphor of the Trinity — or embracing Catholicism — is not a magic talisman — like a rosary or a saint medallion — that will make polygamy disappear — nor is it necessary for civilization to take root.]

Jones continues,

[Paraphrasing] Jones claims Africans can create their own self-sustaining economy by growing their own cotton and making school uniforms for the Catholic schools — he claims that Africans loved his idea, but when he left, nothing happened.

[CFT: This idea shows just how naive or willfully ignorant Jones really is — for hundreds of years now, Africans have been handed everything they need — food, clothing, water, and technology — and they cannot sustain any of it themselves — if anything, they are worse off for it because it allowed their population to grow exponentially without being able to feed themselves.

When the White man first arrived in sub-saharan Africa, the natives did not even know how to make cloth for themselves — if they wore any clothing at all, it was made of animal skins or grass. Today, almost all of the clothing Africans wear was given to them by the West — they still can’t make enough to clothe themselves.

Elsewhere, Jones points out that “Jewish rag pickers” export tons of used clothing to Africa every year and sell it to the Africans. What would motivate Africans to take a step back, grow their own cotton and tend large sheep herds for wool, then make their own fabric — and then manufacture Catholic school uniforms when they know the Catholics will just provide them anyway? It will never happen.]

Jones continues,

“Africans have “black privilege” because from the Left wing perspective, you are always right. You are always right because you’re black. Now the problem is you’re Africans — and you don’t act as American blacks act. You’re off innocent in your own little world there where you are Catholics and you’re religious people.

That’s not the way blacks are supposed to be, but you still have that ability to say, ‘Well, wait a minute, I was never part of the Holocaust….we have no guilt. [Pope] Ratzinger can’t say this, but you can….and once you start talking about Jews, there will be a sorts of uproar…but if you do talk about them, you will have access to the hidden grammar of what is going on in the West. And you will have access to the hidden grammar of human history….the conflicts between the Jews who accepted Christ and the descendants of the Jews who rejected Christ….the conflict between Logos and anti-Logos.”

[CFT: So Jones is advising Africans to use their “black privilege” to start openly calling out the Jews for their treachery — Ugandan leader, Idi Amin did just that — when he called the Israelis “criminals” and “chased” them out of the country because they ruined the economy — and we can see how well that went for him — he became Public Enemy Number One and was deposed.

Some blacks in America — Martin Luther King, Jessie Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, Malcolm X, and even Kanye West — have openly criticized Jews, but their “black privilege” hasn’t protected them as they’ve become marginalized, killed, or forced to apologize.

Blacks in Africa have no real understanding of Jews — to Africans, a Jew is just another “white man” who might give them something for cheap or free — or, as in the case of South Africa, help them overthrow Apartheid and hand a nation that White people built over to black communists without having to build it themselves.]

Jones continues,

[Paraphrasing] Jones then goes into how Africa has been physically isolated for millennia and hard to get to….now they are being integrated into the rest of the world….are they going to make contact with this higher Logos? Or is it going to be derailed by racial thinking?

…Tanzania didn’t make contact with the outside world the way Kenya did [so they learned English], and that’s why John Paul II spent so much time in Kenya.]

Jones asserts, “The cure to racial thinking is Catholicism.”

…Catholicism doesn’t abolish ethnicity, but it transcends ethnicity.

[CFT: Catholicism could “transcend ethnicity” but only as long as those ethnicities were White — whether German, French, English, Polish, or Dutch — but it utterly failed to transcend race — a concept that Jones refuses to acknowledge. The White race has always been the standard bearer of Catholicism — and of Christianity in general — and to think that Third Worlders can do the same is both naive — and destructive to the faith.

The following comment Jones made about the “transcendence” of ethnicity is the ultimate face palm:

Also, as an island nation, Britain was isolated from the rest of Europe, yet that didn’t stop them from extending the British Empire across the entire planet. Africa is not nearly as “isolated” as Jones claims — it has the largest coastline in the world — yet Africans never thought to build ships and export their raw materials around the world in exchange for commodities they needed. Why not? Because they weren’t “Catholic” apparently.

Despite the barrier of the Saharan desert, Nubian Africans managed to migrate up into Egypt and work as slaves for the ancient Adamic Egyptians — while others migrated up into the ancient white kingdom of Kush and eventually took it over — the results speak for themselves.

But note Jones’ implicit bias — he claims Africa didn’t develop because “it was hard to get to” — in other words, it was hard for the White man to get help to them — he never says that it was hard for Africans to get in boats and establish trade routes for themselves.]

Jones then recounts his go-to story about the frustration of developing Africa,

“I met the priest who was in charge of….a village in the west of Tanzania. The priest arrives there in the early 1950s, and he builds a pump…and it solves the water problem…when he leaves the pump breaks and no one knows how to fix the pump because you don’t have that mobilization of labor or the skills trickling down to the lowest level of the population.”

[CFT: This is the story of Africa in a nutshell — give them something simple like a water pump, and they will use it until it breaks down and wait around until the White man returns to fix it for them.

Africans don’t understand western ideas of economic theory — they understand only about taking what is in front of them with no thought to the future — and that attitude is endemic in the African worldview — and no amount of European intervention will ever change their non-Adamic nature — it can only make it worse.]

Odero asks, “Why can’t it be something else, like horticulture?”

Jones responds,

“Real surplus value comes from manufacturing….so if you’re always exporting raw materials, you will never develop. That’s the whole principle of colonialism.”

[CFT: Apparently, Jones has forgotten that’s exactly how Russia and Ukraine developed their economies in Europe — providing raw materials to Germany and western Europe in exchange for manufactured products that they didn’t produce on their own. The same was true in the America South — exporting raw materials to the North in exchange for manufactured goods.

Africans lack the work ethic, discipline, intelligence, and foresight to even produce these raw materials — despite living on top of the richest land with the most abundant natural resources — including diamonds and gold — on the entire planet. If they haven’t figured that out by now, they never will — not even 900 years from now.

Odero then says, “Let’s talk about Joseph Conrad’s book “Heart of Darkness”…when Kurtz dies he says “the horror’…London is just as bad as Africa…..Do you think you can change this if you can’t even talk to these people? This is the pessimism that you find at the end….Europe succumbed to Africa because of their sexual weakness. That’s the whole point of the story.]

Jones responds,

Conrad is a Pole, so he was raised as a Catholic, so he has all this understanding of the Logos of Christianity….He’s sailing up the Congo, and he can’t talk to the people. If I can’t talk to them, are they human beings?

The King of Belgium decides he’s going to have a rubber plantation in the Congo. If the natives don’t produce enough, they cut off their hands. Pictures were sent out and the world was scandalized…

In England they are talking about the White Man’s Burden….Kipling, a British imperialist….he thought colonialism was good because it was the White Man’s burden because the White Man brought civilization to the Black Man.

The faith in colonialism is shaken when you are cutting off people’s hands. This is what Conrad is trying to make sense of. Kurtz was a missionary, so your faith in Jesus Christ is stronger than the barbarism that surrounds you….Kurtz went native. Is the White man going to reform polygamy or is he going to enjoy polygamy? If Africa going to be a release from the burden of Christianity? Which means sexual immorality….what you sense is, ‘this is overwhelming’.

[CFT: We have read all of Conrad’s novels and unlike the British lapsed “Catholic” novelist, Graham Greene, Conrad never brings up Catholicism in his writings about his experiences among Third World natives.

Conrad was a White racialist — and he intuitively understood that there was an unbridgeable chasm between White Europeans and the African natives — and even when a White man like Kurtz — or Lord Jim or Nostromo — “goes native,” they still naturally rule over the savage natives.

Ironically, it is Graham Greene’s Catholic characters who fall more into sin and apostasy among the natives — and try much more to reconcile it with their Catholic “faith” than do Conrad’s White racialist characters.]

Odero comments, “[Nelson] Mandela said Africa has never really been evangelized….what we see is underneath [religion] is many layers of paganism that still persists….we have never really [accepted Christ]….”

Jones responds,

“Let’s talk about the acculturation process…..[the difference between Germany and Africa] is a thousand years of Christianity. Imagine what would have happened if all the Benedictine monks left Germany in 770 AD….and then we would have what happened in Tanzania.

The Catholics arrived in Tanzania in 1950….and in the 1960s they were told to leave….the Christianization process was disrupted….”

[CFT: Immediately after the Germanic peoples converted to Christianity, their civilization blossomed — and it wasn’t because some Benedictine monks stayed and showed them how to cultivate grapes and made sure they went to Mass — as if the Germanics weren’t smart enough to figure that out for themselves. At the time of their conversion, the Germanic peoples were already far advanced culturally than Africans are today — and it certainly didn’t take them 900 years of Catholicism to eventually invent rocket engines and jet airplanes. “Logos” was in their DNA “from the beginning.”]

Odero states, “Uganda is the most Catholic country in Africa….but their faith is still more superstition than Logos.”

Jones responds,

“I have never been to Uganda, but I know they don’t like homosexuality….Mexico was created by Our Lady of Guadalupe when she appeared. And East Africa was created by the martyrs.

The heart of the matter is sexual morality. You can’t have a civilization without sexual morality.

Again, what was Germany like in 820? Were they philosophers? Were they capable of understanding the discussions that took place at the Council of Nicaea? No. Why should Africa be any different? Every culture has to go through this kind of development.

This is why [Giambattista] Vico is important. God allows these cultures to rise [like Germany], and then He just throws them away. He allows them to destroy themselves.

They same cycle is happening in East Africa now, and it’s your job as an educator to introduce them to Logos.”

[CFT: It’s doubtful that most Germans today can still understand all the arcane arguments that transpired at the Council of Nicaea as they ironed out the metaphorical nature of the Trinity.

And Jones’ contention that Christians need to speak the native language in order to convey the meaning of Logos and the Trinity is both ahistorical — it’s hypocritical. The Catholic Church forbade any Europeans to publish the Latin Bible in the local languages — and burned people at the stake for doing so.

On top of that, they conducted Mass in Latin — a language that no European could understand, so how did Europeans even begin to understand “Logos” or the “Trinity”?

Why did the Catholics bend over backwards for natives in the Third World, translating the Bible into their native languages, such as Swahili, but didn’t feel a need to do the same for White Europeans? The answer is obvious — they knew these natives were intellectually inferior to Europeans and they had to pander and condescend to them as if they were little children — and Catholicism still didn’t take.

Catholics have been evangelizing in Africa for 500 years — and it has been an utter failure. As even Odero seems to understand, Africans are incapable of adopting Christianity without “Africanizing” it, mixing it with their own superstitions and cultural traditions, like polygamy.

Even these benighted Africans seem to have grasped something about Christianity that Jones refuses to acknowledge — that it is the “White Man’s religion” and Jesus Christ is their White God whom they worship — which is why they “Africanize” it to suit their own cultural needs — changing Jesus into a black man — and allowing their priests to perform magic and witchcraft.

Why have the Catholics never starting burning African heretics at the stake the way they did White European “heretics”? If Africans understand anything, it’s brute force and violence to keep them in line — like cutting off their hands if they don’t work hard enough on their rubber plantations in the Congo.

The simple answer is that the Catholics haven’t burned African heretics at the stake because they knew it wouldn’t do any good — and African priests will simply start burning other Africans at the stake for even the smallest infractions — and do their voodoo dances around the flames — and then feast on the cooked corpse.

This immutable racial gulf is the “horror” that Conrad saw in the “Heart of Darkness” — and millions of gallons of baptismal water will never exorcise Africans of their “instinctual violence” — God never “wrote the truth on their hearts” as He did on Adamic Man’s.]

[End of Part 2]