E. Michael Jones ‘Logos And Africa’ (Part 3)

(Bitchute) Here we will conclude our three-part discussion and critique of E. Michael Jones’ thesis “Logos And Africa” which he explains in a video interview conducted by a black African — Robert Odero — professor of religion and philosophy at Strathmore Academy in Nairobi — about Jones’ book Logos Rising.

If you haven’t done so already, we recommend you read Part 1 and Part 2 before proceeding to this final installment.

The interview continues:

Odero asks,

“Africa is full of “ethnos”…we have tribes….but they fight against each other….we need to move from “ethnos” to Logos….how do you make the transition?”

Jones responds,

“That is the dialectic of human history….there’s only one vehicle for “ethnos” into Logos…that’s the Catholic Church. That’s why I’m hopeful because I see how strong the Catholic Church is [in Africa]….

[CFT: First, we would assert that in a strictly biblical sense, Africa does not have “ethnos” — the Greek term “ethnos” — translated into English as “the nations” — or in Hebrew as “goyim” — which refers specifically to the original Genesis 10 nations — the direct, legitimate descendants of Noah — and earlier from Adam.

It’s important to note that Cain’s genealogy is not provided or recognized in the Bible as part of those Genesis 10 nations — or “ethnos” — which tells us that there are many people in this world who are not considered part of the legitimate Adamic bloodline — and therefore cannot be included in the concept of the “ethnos.”

Unfortunately, when Jerome translated the Greek Septuigent into Latin, he often substituted “ethnos” as “gentilis” or “gentiles” in English — which the vast majority of Christians falsely believe simply means “non-Jews” — and nothing could be further from the truth.

Either way, Africans do indeed have different ethnicities or tribes, but none of them can be legitimately traced back to the original Genesis 10 “ethnos” — and because of that, these African tribes had never been inspired with the spirit of Logos “from the beginning.”

Jones earlier claimed that Logos “transcends” ethnos — but that’s true only for the legitimate “generations of Adam” — as Paul tells the Israelite Galatians,

“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”

This verse is not proof of race denial — as most Christians have been taught — rather, Paul is telling the Galatians — who were among the lost tribes of Israel who had forgotten their identity — that the Israelite Judeans weren’t any more special or “chosen” than “uncircumcized” Israelites who had not kept the law — or Israelites who were slaves, or male or female.

Their “ethnos” — though very real — was now unified in Christ — whose mission was to regather all 12 of the Israelite tribes — along with the “righteous” among the original Genesis 10 nations after His death.

In many interviews, E. Michael Jones’ go-to cherry-picked verse to “prove” that Christ denied “race” or that it was a consideration in salvation is Matthew 3:9, where Christ tells the Sadducees and Pharisees that their Israelite bloodline won’t save them:

“And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.”

The problem here is that Christ — like Paul’s epistle to the Galatians — is not saying that being a racial Israelite is not important or irrelevant — rather He is saying that without belief in Him, that bloodline is meaningless.]

Jones then tells Odero how Africans can make the transition from “ethnos” to “Logos”:

“The question is how long is it going to take? That depends on how good your educational system is.”

[CFT: Jones has apparently forgotten that the Europeans had no “educational system” to help them in their transition from being ethnic Germanics or Gauls or Celts into Christians via their conversion to Christianity.

The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of Europeans were largely illiterate well into the 18th and 19th centuries — and this illiteracy actually was essential for the Catholic Church’s monopoly over the Bible and Christianity to go unchallenged until the Reformation — which never could have happened without the advent of the printing press — which caused the Church to lose that monopoly to control “The Word.”

Yet this widespread illiteracy among White Europeans didn’t stop them from not only embracing the Christian faith — but also from creating the greatest, most advanced civilization in the history of the world.

Again, Jones’ Jesuitical attitude toward “education” shows just how unconsciously condescending he is toward Africans — unlike Whites, blacks need special help — spiritual “affirmative action” — to make that transition to Logos whereas the White Europeans did not.]

Odero comments,

“We [Africans] seem to endear ourselves to tragedy….fighting, war, weeping….there is a way that Logos expresses itself in suffering….suffering purifies…so this process from “ethnos” to Logos must pass through suffering….

Jones responds,

“If you have a strong ethnic identity — and you are next to another group that has an equally strong ethnic identity — there’s going to be conflict. So you want the opposite of that. Look at Europe now. No one has a strong identity. There’s no conflict….there’s class conflict, but there’s no ethnic conflict because no one has an identity anymore.

The point is not to abolish ethnic identity. That’s what the United States tried to do. You come over to America and you become part of the melting pot….that’s what it is to be an American.

You need the tension of the dialectic….you maintain what you are, but you take it to a higher level by the infusion of Logos…”

[CFT: These comments are rather astonishing coming from Jones, whose wheelhouse is the “Jewish revolutionary spirit” — and he of all people should know that America was never founded to be some sort of ethnic or racial “melting pot” — the title of a 1908 Broadway play by Israel Zangwill — a Jewish communist — who advocated the dissolution of the White race through miscegenation while Jews are accepted as “equals” in the “melting pot” — yet somehow remain distinct and separate.

The same is true for Europe — if Europeans no longer have strong ethnic identities, it’s not because of the Catholic Church — it’s because the Jews imposed the borderless, homogeneous European Union — the New Soviet — on them in order to destroy their ethnic identities and independence.

The American Founding Fathers would have found this idea repugnant — they founded this nation for only their own “posterity” — free Christian White men of European descent — and Jews and other non-Whites were certainly not initially granted citizenship because they are not part of that posterity.

Yes, European Americans became unified as a Christian nation, but they also retained a strong understanding of their different European ethnic roots — and it wasn’t until after World War II that White Americans left their ethnic neighborhoods in the cities — because Jews began renting and selling properties in those neighborhoods to blacks — which caused Whites to leave for the suburbs where they started to identify as generically “White” — as Jones himself describes in his book The Slaughter Of Cities: Urban Renewal As Ethnic Cleansing.

However, Jones claims that the only “ethnicities” in America prior to this break up of the cities were Catholic, Protestant, and Jewish — and when they left the cities, they all became generically “White” — which Jones claims played right into the hands of the Jews because it allowed Jews to demonize White identity.

Isn’t it telling, however, that Jones doesn’t impose this same definition of “ethnicity” on to Africans — he doesn’t tell Odero that the only ethnicities in Africa are Catholic, Protestant, and Jewish or even African Voodooists — Jones applies that ethnic concept only to White people.]

Jones continues,

“The Jesuits going to Paraguay….the [Catholic missionaries] learned the natives’ language…and wrote the dictionary and grammar for the Guarani language….that’s the first step of Logos coming in contact with ethnos…

From that point you move higher and higher and higher [toward Logos]….It is time for East Africa to integrate into the global development of Logos.”

[CFT: The fact that the Guarani tribes couldn’t create their own dictionary and grammar is proof that they are completely dependent on the White man to even perform the most basic acts upon which any semblance of civilization is based.

And it’s worth noting that the Catholics didn’t translate the Bible into Guarani until 200 years after they created a dictionary for them — imagine being a Guarani Indian listening to Latin Mass for 200 years.

Again, the original missionaries to the Germanic peoples didn’t feel a need to create a dictionary or grammar for them before they could convert them. And even though the illiterate Germanics heard Mass in Latin, apparently they still understood “Logos” — no need for special “education” like the Native Indians or Africans.

In fact, 500 years would pass — before the Bible was first printed in German — which the German Protestants read — as the Catholic Church forbade it — yet Christianity still took hold among those people.]

Jones continues,

“For thousands of years, subsaharan Africa was off by itself….[but] because of colonialism they’ve been integrated in a bad way….but now you speak English. Now we have this common vocabulary…but it’s an example of God bringing good out of evil (colonialism)….”

[CFT: So now Jones is jumping on the Marxist anti-colonialism band wagon — colonialism brought Christianity to Africa, but because hundreds of years later, many of them now speak English — which many of the new missionaries speak — somehow “good” has come out of that “evil”.

Yet Jones takes the colonial perspective of Africa — that it was “isolated” — yet it was isolated because the Africans themselves had no knowledge of sea travel. What stopped them from building large boats and traveling up the coast to trade centers in the Near East and North Africa?

Why is it the White Man’s responsibility to bring Logos to Africa and not the Africans’ responsibility to make contact with the outside world?]

Jones continues,

“African tribes don’t have a common lingua franca, a common philosophical or political nationhood. It just never developed there.”

[CFT: Around 900 AD — when Europeans converted to Christianity — there was no “lingua franca” for Europeans, yet that didn’t stop them from developing or from becoming Christian nations.

But, again, Africans for some “mysterious” reason are different — they need a “lingua franca” like English so that all Africans can talk to each other and work out their ethnic differences so that they can one day all become Catholic and finally put satellites in space without the help of White people.]

Odero then mentions the ethnic wars in Rwanda, saying that Africans must settle their differences non-violently, to which Jones replies,

“The Gospel can integrate all ethnic groups into the universal Church. You’ve reached a point where your Catholicism has not sanctified your ethnicity….that’s what happened in Rwanda.

That’s what Germany was like….you had these strong ethnic identities…and Germany didn’t become a nation until 1871….the Benedictines arrived a thousand years before, and these German tribes could not get along with each other until 1871, and then it was imposed on them by Prussia.

This is just part of human history….call it the tragedy of human history….I’m not advocating ethnic cleansing….you have 73 ethnic groups in Tanzania alone….and they all look completely identical to people from the West…it’s part of the necessary part of history.”

[CFT: So once again Jones is comparing Tanzania to the Germanic states — as if the Tanzanians, given enough Catholic education, will eventually become the greatest engineers in the world, like the Germans are today. Those Germanic peoples were already far more advanced before their conversion to Christianity than the Tanzanians are today 1,200 years later.

Jones is telling Odero not to worry — if it took the Germanic peoples 1,000 years to become one unified nation, it’s only reasonable for the Africans to take that long too — which means sometime in the next millennia — say 2120. Be patient. And if all Tanzanians would just read Logos Rising before they read the Bible, maybe they won’t have to wait another 1,000 years to figure out how to build a rudimentary water pump.]

Jones continues,

“There is a way of working this ethnic conflict out — and it’s called Catholicism, which is the vehicle of Logos through human history. And the main way people understand Logos is through the Catholic Church.”

[CFT: Despite converting to Christianity, the European peoples continued their ethnic conflicts for the next 1,000 years — war was the rule, not the exception — yet these ethnic conflicts did not stop them from being Christian or developing into an advanced civilization.

And it wasn’t the Benedictine monks who first brought Logos to the Gothic tribes — it was “The Bishop of the Goths” — Ulfilas (311–383AD) — a Goth of Cappadocian Greek descent. Ulfilas developed the Gothic script — and translated the Bible into the Gothic language as part of his missionary work in what today is Romania.

Ulfilas knew that the Goths were descended from the Cappadocian “White Assyrians” as described by Strabo:

“The boundary of the Paphlagonians to the east is the river Halys, which flows from the south between the Syrians and the Paphlagonians; and according to Herodotus,23 (who means Cappadocians, when he is speaking of Syrians,) discharges itself into the Euxine Sea. Even at present they are called Leuco-Syrians, (or White Syrians,) while those without the Taurus are called Syrians. In comparison with the people within the Taurus, the latter have a burnt complexion; but the former, not having it, received the appellation of Leuco- Syrians (or White Syrians).”

–Strabo, Geography, book 12:544, chapter III

If anyone understood the concept of “Logos,” it was surely the Greek-educated Ulfilas — which means that “Logos” reached the Gothic tribes 500 years before the Catholic Benedictines did their missionary work with the Germanic tribes.

And Ulfilas accomplished this historic missionary work without believing in the Trinity — according to Catholics like Jones, Ulfias would have been dismissed as a “Arian” heretic — and the Christianity he professed did not represent genuine “Logos.”

Unlike the Catholics, the Cappadocians, however, are mentioned in 1 Peter 1:1,

“Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia”

They are also mentioned in Acts 2:9,

“Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia”

So here we have proof of a direct connection between the Goths of Europe and the apostles — something that the Catholic Church itself cannot boast of outside of their own myths. While the Catholics were arguing about the nature of the Trinity in Nicaea for 100 years, the Goths had already received and understood the Gospels — in their own Gothic language.

The European Goths can trace their ancestry back to the Parthians, Cappadocians, Scythians, and Cimmerians — proving that they can be counted among the “lost” ten northern tribes of Israel — read Chapters 7 and 8 on this ethnic connection in Stephen Collins book, The Lost Ten Tribes of Israel….Found.

All of this demonstrates that people don’t receive “Logos” like a communion wafer from a priest — the people themselves must first have a racial connection to the original Genesis 10 nations — the “ethnos” — the “generations of Adam” — and the subsaharan Africans most assuredly are not counted among them.

Don’t take our word for it — the African-Nigerian writer, Solomon Jegede Enaboakpe, doesn’t believe that black Africans are Adamic, as he argues in his book Black Man: Not Descendant of Adam.]

Odero then comments,

“I have a theory that might disappoint you a bit….I think that the Logos is not sufficient….in the Tower of Babel there was conflict then separation. Here there is a thing called the Holy Spirit which we cannot identify with Logos. There is something more to it. That’s what I can’t put my finger on. I know it has to do with the Trinity at the end of the day. Logos is the Son, and there’s also the Spirit, which is Spirit of uniting the Father and the Son…”

Jones dismisses Odero’s concerns,

“You can’t separate one from the other. They are all the same, One in Being….you can’t say the [Holy] Spirit has no Logos….you can’t separate them. That’s where human metaphors start to fail.”

[CFT: This flippant response shows just how Catholic dogma has blinded Jones to reality — the Trinity is, in fact, a “human metaphor” — a complicated attempt to define the ineffable — even the most intellectually gifted theologians have problems understanding all the arguments that gave rise to the Nicaean Creed — see for yourself.

And Jones is wrong — you have to first be able to intellectually understand the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as separate entities because they are separated as such in the Gospels — the Trinity is not explicitly stated as such anywhere in the Gospels — which is why it didn’t appear as a concept until 400 years later.

Yes, the Father, Son, and Holy spirit are mentioned in one verse — Matthew 28:19 — and leaving aside that many believe this verse was later inserted into Matthew’s gospel at the time of the Nicaean Council to justify their metaphor of the Trinity — there is no second witness — no other verse contains all three in the same verse — which in itself should raise eyebrows considering how important the Trinity allegedly is to comprehend “Logos” incarnate.

And, ironically, it was Matthew himself who told his fellow Christians that two or more witnesses were required to settle any disputes about scriptural matters:

“But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.”

–Matthew 18:16

What is also undeniable is that a Triune god has its roots in Babylon — see chapter two of Alexander Hislop’s The Two Babylons for a detailed explanation of the pagan archetypes for this concept of a triune god.

On a certain level it makes sense that the Catholic Church would incorporate this pagan mythology into its dogma — it could very well have been a way of making the Gospels appealing and familiar to an audience steeped in babylonian paganism — there are many other examples of the Church having done just that — Christmas and Easter festivals are the most obvious ones.]

Odero continues, “Conflict [in Africa] is almost always identified with bloodshed. I don’t know how that and the Holy Spirit come together…“

Jones explains,

“You are raising conflict to a higher level. Exalt and maintain. The conflict can take place at the level of Logos in intellectual discourse.”

[CFT: Where in the entire history of subsaharan Africa have we ever seen a tradition of “intellectual discourse”? It is not in their nature — such discourse requires the ability to think abstractly — and all psychologists agree that the base minimum IQ required to grasp abstract concepts is 100 — and for more advanced abstract concepts — such as the Trinity — requires elite IQ of 120 and above. With a mean IQ in Africa of 65, this kind of abstract discourse is simply beyond their ability.

If a White man had an IQ of the average African, he would not have the ability to live independently in our society — he would have to live his life with his parents or be institutionalized — and any employment beyond janitor or common laborer would be impossible.

When White men first showed up in subsaharan Africa, they noted that the Africans had no knowledge of how to weave their own cloth — and it most certainly was already part of the culture of ancient Sumeria in Mesopotamia — the Fertile Crescent — among the earliest Adamic peoples — yet somehow Africans never figured out how to make cloth from fibrous plants like flax.

Yet Jones claims that the Africans still need to learn how to cultivate their own cotton and make their own cloth — so they can make Catholic school uniforms — before their civilization can move on to bigger and better things.

Watch this video of how the Irish grow flax and make it into world-famous woven linen — a technique that the ancient Gaels brought with them from the ancestral homelands in the Near East:

The only reasonable explanation that black Africans could never figure this out on their own is that they were not part of the Adamic creation — because every tribe descendant from Adam could cultivate flax and make their own cloth.

Odero obviously appears skeptical of Jones’ explanation of Logos and how it applies to the African people. He seems at a loss for words — not able to articulate to Jones how the failure of Logos in Africa can’t merely be reduced to the banal idea that the answer is baptism, the Trinity, and conversion to Catholicism.

Odero’s response is telling:

“I see okay. Fine.”

The fact of the matter is that despite having the largest “Christian” population in the world, Africa has still failed to progress beyond the hunter-gather level of civilization independent of the intervention of the White race.

If the White Man were to completely withdraw from Africa and leave them to their own devices, they would very quickly fall back into the Stone Age — but they cannot organize themselves and exploit the greatest natural resources in the world — so they are destined to be exploited by others.

The communist Chinese, for example, have now moved into Africa to exploit its rich resources — and if the Africans think that the White Man cruelly exploited them, just wait until they see how the Chinese treat them — the Chinese won’t be building hospitals, schools, or teaching them their language as the White Man did so that they can learn the Bible — the Chinese know that’s a waste of time and money.

The Africans quickly embraced post-colonial communism because it promised a fast, easy way of expropriating White wealth and property without having to work for it — but the communist Chinese have no intention of sharing any of their wealth with the Africans — who will get to see the brutal reality of communism without the Jews giving them a slice of the cake, as they did in South Africa.

And if there’s going to be a new “lingua franca” in Africa — judging from the rapid expansion of Chinese power there — it’s going to be Chinese — not English.

Nothing has changed for the Africans since Christians showed up 500 years ago and tried to uplift them — and all the infrastructure they built for them has fallen into ruins.

In the following video, a Chinese man openly mocks an African for how they’ve failed to develop what the White Man gave them:

Chinese: “You were governed by the Europeans for so long. You should have learned how things work.”

African: “It’s wasn’t so long ago. Only 50 years. We celebrated independence just a few weeks ago.”

Chinese: “Up until then you were under colonial rule. Experience should be passed on. Only that way can you develop. You went backwards instead of forwards. Look at your railways. High technology from the 1930s. We didn’t even have it in China back then. Look at the railroads in the mines. The cable lines are messed up. I can’t bear to see that.”

Chinese: “You neglected the things others had left you. What’s more, you completely destroyed them. It will take generations to put things right. ‘If I have money, I drink all night. No matter if I’m broke in the morning, I’ll drink water’ — it’s like that here…”

“With regards to money, we Chinese differ from the Congolese who learned from the Belgians. Money or not, they spend it. No stress. On pay day, they throw it away. I haven’t met any Belgians before, but looking at you guys, I suspect you’re like that. On pay day, the men go crazy. Two days later, they come asking to loan them money. They don’t hold their drink that well. They just like drinking. They stand at the bar drinking a beer. And then start shaking their behinds.”

“It’s wonderful.”

Note how the Chinese man says that even the Chinese didn’t have railways in the 1930s when the African did — yet the Chinese learned how to build them for themselves — and repair the ones that the White Man left in Africa — and they did this without becoming Catholic.

Unlike the White Man, the Chinese bear no racial guilt toward the Africans — they feel no pity for them, nor will they come up with excuses for them as E. Michael Jones does.

Nor do the Chinese feel any obligation to improve the Africans’ way of life — they see Africans unsentimentally for what they are — and they will treat them accordingly.

In many ways, how the Chinese treat them will be better for them than how the sentimental White Man has done it — they will force the Africans to abandon any delusions they have about themselves — that there was some magical “Wakanda” in their past or in their future — which E. Michael Jones has promised them if they would just read his book Logos Rising — and become Catholics — and make their own school uniforms.