(Jerusalem Post) According to age-old “antisemitic canards,” Jews have always been notorious skirkers when it has come to military drafts — but apparently the war in Ukraine is proving that this “canard” may, in fact, have some truth to it:
Some Russian Jews fear returning to Russia and others are seeking Israeli passports, in the wake of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s partial mobilization of citizens for fighting in the Russia-Ukraine War.
“Everyone wants an Israeli passport, but there’s a year’s wait to get an appointment,” Russia’s Chief Rabbi Berel Lazar said in an interview with Mishpacha Magazine.
“I don’t believe they’re quite ready to leave,” Lazar said during the interview regarding Russian Jews.
“People want security, to have a passport if they need one. But we haven’t seen a wave of aliyah — there hasn’t been a decline in the number of community members,” he told Mishpacha’s Hebrew magazine editor Aryeh Erlich.
Yet Lazar is quoted as saying that he also thinks Russian Jews are looking for a strong community in Russia. “They want some source of strength; they want a community at their side if something happens…”
…On the eve of Rosh Hashanah, [Rabbi] Lazar received the annual letter of blessing from the President’s Office. Putin said in the letter that “it is most important that Russian Jews, who maintain their loyalty to the spiritual tradition of their ancestors, make a significant contribution to maintain the cultural diversity of our country.”
“We’re doing all we can, using all our connections to protect Ukraine’s Jews as well as the many holy sites in Ukraine,” Lazar said. “Many family members of Russian shluchim [emissaries] are still in Ukraine and we’re doing all we can to help them and to give them moral support as well as financial assistance.”
Lazar told Erlich that the Russian authorities are aware of this assistance and know that there are no politics involved. “Politics and nationalist interests have nothing to do with us, and the Russian government knows this.”
And Putin’s letter to Rabbi Lazar seems to include a not-so-veiled demand that he expects Jews to do their fair share in support of the war in Ukraine.
Yet at the same time, the Russian government is turning a blind eye to the fact that Jews in Russia are “protecting” Jews in Ukraine who are under attack — as all Ukrainians are — from the Russian military offensive.
What is the nature of this “protection”? We know that tens of thousands of Ukrainian Jews have suddenly felt a desire to make “aliyah” to Israel — keeping them out of harms way.
And Jews in Russia want one of those coveted Israeli passports that would allow them to leave Russia whenever their “security” was threatened — such as being drafted like every other Russian man of military age.
Make no mistake — these Russian Jews are largely atheists — and their desire to flee to the safety of Israel has nothing to do with “returning” to their “ancestral homeland.”
And this Jewish mad dash to get Israeli passports and avoid dangerous military service has not been lost on the general Russian population.
In fact, recently a popular talk show host in Russia read on air a list of Jews whom he faulted for a lack of patriotism in the face of the war in Ukraine.
According to a recent article in the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, “tens of thousands” of Russian Jews have already fled to Israel since the war in Ukraine began earlier this year.
Israeli news outlet i24 reported that Israel is preparing for a huge “surge” of Russian Jews making “aliyah” in the wake of Putin’s announcement of a general military draft.
Only an “antisemite” would call these Jews fleeing Russia for Israel “draft dodgers” — Israel has the “right” to do whatever it can to ensure the “safety” of Jews worldwide.
And allowing them to return to their “ancestral homeland” is their inalienable right — regardless of the reason behind it — just like it’s the right of Jewish pedophiles to escape prosecution by making “aliyah” to Israel.
What’s important is that all Jews are free to go to Israel whenever it’s convenient — the reasons they want to go are irrelevant.
Thomas Pickering
https://strangerinajewishworld.blogspot.com/2024/10/the-jewish-master-plan.html
Paul Michael O'Donohoe
possible civil war in russia https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1652399267179565057?s=20
Gene
I have read Putin passed a law allowing him to rule until about 2035, I believe. So this war is to get rid of him and divide Russia into regions, or among other countries, or rule up areas to demand independence.
Also Russia is rich in resources and the
Jews know it from almost 80 years of rule over the Russian People.
So are we supplying aid to help keep Ukrainian freedom or Jewish control or domination?
The war is in the Middle East. Russia and China have always been the bill is s in the Rnd Times senero I always heard preached by Protestant ministers on the radio when I was a boy .
Now I “ think” I may see why. They have suffered under Jewish. Ommunizm and that may be why it was always taught they would be involved in the Middle East, to fight the Jews who the world adores to its sacrifice of its own people.
People who know the. Bible might see it.
Petr
Kurt Tucholsky, prominent Jewish writer in Weimar Germany, admitted that he did everything he could to avoid the draft in WWI:
“For three and a half years I dodged the war as much as I could – and I regret not having had the courage shown by the great Karl Liebknecht to say No and refuse to serve in the military. Of this I am ashamed. I used many means not to get shot and not to shoot – not once the worst means. But I would have used all means, all without exception, had I been forced to do so: I wouldn’t have said no to bribery or any other punishable acts. Many did just the same.”
–Kurt Tucholsky, under pen name “Ignaz Wrobel,” in Wo waren Sie im Kriege, Herr –? (Where were you in the war, Mister –?) in Die Weltbühne, March 30, 1926, p. 490.
zvezdochka
Great site with in-depth articles and comments that take a lot of time to read in order for a person to understand a lot of things that escape from the eyes of many.
In common lines, I think at the moment, for about 3 years, a sieve for a grain of chaff has been walking. As, in my opinion, the wide sieve is for all who in their thoughts and actions observe the Ten Commandments, whether they are Christian believers or not, but the commandments are at the core of their value system and lead their lives according to them. And the narrow sieve is for later stages, for true believers and deep Christians, with a more solid foundation, who are more difficult to deceive.
In short, from what I see, since 2019-2020, there have been intense attempts at the final stages of a sieve to lure the grain to the wrong side. To accept evil for good; by his own will, not by compulsion. We had the white-capped lifeguard who started ‘warp speed’ and called himself the father of the jab, which alienated many. Others, along with this, were also repelled by this false savior’s impeccable connections with the organizers of the deception, including many Jews, as well as his biography, which points to all sorts of connections with clear villains.
(The entire Russian power elite – state and business, scientific, along with all major Russian media – were equally involved in this sinister hoax ; they took advantage of it to start the radical transformation of Russian society, with a lot of digitization and so on.)
And after the disappointment (for one part) of Trump, after a year of Biden, the need for an equal White, savior figure grew enormously. There came this strange “war”, sanctions, incessant noisy media accusations, sabotage, etc., by the apparently evil Western authorities, led by the evil elite at the top. And here, in a mutual effort, came the role of those I call “the little false prophets.” A tremendous bilateral mutual effort, in which, on the one hand, the mass media of the” collective West ” constantly attacks Putin, using all sorts of obvious exaggerations and some outright lies.; on the other hand, the vast majority of alternative media blindly and fiercely defend Putin, covering up, sparing, or justifying anything that indicates that he is carrying out (and planning much more) in Russia the same Satanic restructuring of his society that all “Western” elites are doing in their societies.
Everything according to the” pre-war ” arrangements; and Russia is firmly in the WHO and the UN, stating consistently that the implementation of the Sustainable Development Goals is most important to them, and they act accordingly. They, With Putin’s personal initiatives and signatures, under the pretext of “dealing with the economy in terms of import substitution,” for example, not only maintain the level of digitalization that was before “the withdrawal of Western companies and suppliers,” but have stepped up the process many times more “to protect the economy and national security”. They’ve introduced disgusting novelties in these directions. Also, because of the “biolaborations”, Russia’s” genetic security ” was put into operation, which has been consistently designed and legislated over the years.
The Western mass media does not criticize Putin for all this, and the vast majority of alternative media defend, cover up, save, or justify him. And many “of the wide sieve” were caught in this dirty trick.
Such a scam, with so much hidden and stored information, at such a moment, is not done just like that. I have no way of knowing exactly what the ultimate goal is, but as one supposition, it seems to me very much that at some point the “enemies” will “make a truce”, the money-pumped and also don’t stop to digitize Ukraine will flourish as the restored digitized and over-modernized Khaganate, and on the other hand we will have a strong and also technocratic Russia. Of course – China. (And the unknown future of Europe and the United States, as well as the entire West.) Just a guess.
Could post a lot about what’s going on in Russia, which is dismissed or not at all in the Western alt-media, but I guess that’s not the focus of the site.
Yitz
RESPONSE TO OLD GUY
Only an insignificant amount try and avoid military service today. But the main reason isn’t cowardice, but the IDF’s own failings. To be brief, one isn’t paid well, trained poorly, and has to put up with lousy medical facilities and unsanitary bases. Plus, I hear that transportation is crummy. But if these issues can be fixed, Israel should have no problem fillings its ranks.
But look, every nation has similar issues. Israel isn’t an exception.
Data is out that the U.S. has only been able to recruit 52% of what’s needed for the 2022 fiscal year. But the trouble is only starting. Thanks to obesity, drug use, and criminal records, anaylists predict that the U.S. recruitment pool will only shrink as the decades’ pile on. Indeed, out of a population of 329.5 million, roughly 0.727% are willing to put on a uniform.
So, shut it with the antisemitism. America’s worse than Israel. But rather than slam Israel, we should all do our best to help the recruitment of both nations. After all, both Israel and the U.S. share a lot in common. Unless you instead prefer the oppressive, anti-American totalitarian theocracies that surround Israel.
RESPONSE TO MIDGE
Iran has Shahed-136 UAV “kamikaze” drones, and in Gaza, they have Jenin drones armed with small-sized missiles.
RESPONSE TO CRONY
What, do I look like Bugsy Siegel to you?
Also, she’s not a moser. Are we in a “court of law”?
RESPONSE TO RASTA
I quote:
“IDF soldiers are ‘courageous’ only when they know they have overwhelming superiority in weaponry and technology. Full body armor, heavily protected vehicles with lethal anti-crowd weapons.”
Yeah? Let’s throw in the front lines without any of that and see how quick you piss your pants.
“. . . Phosphorous bombs, all against rock-throwing Palestinians.”
That’s a joke. Israel no longer uses white phosphorous (but your buddy Putin does in Ukraine). As for “rock-throwing Palestinians”. . . c’mon. First off, if you don’t want to be attacked, don’t attack Israelis. Secondly, here’s a little secret: if they really (I mean, really) wanted to, Hamas and Hezbollah could easily overwhelm Iron Dome (both fiscally and materially) and defeat Israel.
Yes, Israel is powerful, but only to a point.
Hopefully, we never see such a day.
RESPONSE TO FORMER LIBERAL
I’m glad you were educated classically. Just know that the white race isn’t the only one good at building civilization. You’ve China, India, the Middle East, and Mesoamerica/South America.
Western culture (fashion, etc.) has only won out because the West colonized everyone and brutally took their resources/destroyed their civilizations.
Now, that’s stating a fact.
As for your parents, that’s okay. I’m not offended by your “genetics” (why should I? Not every German citizen was a “Nazi”).
Perhaps you think “Jews have bad behavior” because you weren’t exposed enough to Judaism? The NT isn’t exactly friendly toward us, y’know.
Moreover, it seems to me that you only attended Hebrew school.
“Everyone hates us for no reason at all.” It’s kind of true. But of course, as always, things are more complicated. Antisemites hate us because: (a) they’re irrational; (b) think we somehow “killed Gd”; and (c) are very successful in certain industries (thus arousing their jealousy).
And to answer your question, no, I never served. If that makes me a bad person, so be it. I don’t think so – there are many, many ways one can “serve” their country.
Marlowe
Yitz wrote, “…both Israel and the U.S. share a lot in common.”
The only thing Israel and the U.S. have in common is Jews who funnel billions of U.S. tax dollars to support the ersatz state of Israel and then turn around and stab us in the back:
In case you aren’t aware, Israel orchestrated the 9/11 attacks on America and framed Muslims for it, according to Dr. Alan Sabrosky, a Jewish professor at the U.S. Army War College, so this isn’t some “antisemitic” conspiracy theory:
https://christiansfortruth.com/9-11/
But Muslims are Jewish “golem”. Jews created Islam as a “golem” to militarize the Arabs to destroy their Christian enemies in the Near East, such as the Christian Byzantine Empire. And that “golem” has now turned around an attacked their Jewish creators, no surprise, because that’s what “golems” do.
But Jews and Muslims have enjoyed a long mutual hatred of Christian nations. They conspired to destroy Christian Spain and then lived peacefully together in Muslim-occupied Spain for hundreds of years during the “Convivencia”:
https://christiansfortruth.com/the-myth-of-convivencia-or-peaceful-coexistence-with-christians-in-muslim-spain/
To quote Jewish author Dr. Kurt Munzer from “The Way To Zion”:
‘We have corrupted the blood of all the races of Europe — perhaps we have infected them today. Everything is Jewdified. Our thinking is in everything living, our spirit rules the world. We are the masters, for everything that has power today is the child of our spirit. One may hate us, one may drive us away. Our enemies may triumph over our physical weakness, but we are no longer to be gotten rid of. We have devoured the peoples, conquered the races, defiled them, broken their strength, made everything rotten, lazy, and corrupt with our stale culture. Our spirit can no longer be exterminated.”
Yitz
Marlowe,
“The only thing Israel and the U.S. have in common is Jews who funnel billions of U.S. tax dollars to support the ersatz state of Israel and then turn around and stab us in the back.”
So. . . I guess when Israel foils terrorist attacks aimed at the U.S., that’s now a “stab in the back”? I mean, if you want to be terrorized, all power to you – but me, personally, as a U.S. citizen, no freckin thanks!
And btw, Israel absolutely did NOT “orchestrate the 9/11 attacks on America and framed Muslims for it.” I don’t care what some professor says, let alone if he’s Jewish. Just because one Jew says something crazy about us as a whole, it doesn’t mean it’s automatically true. To say otherwise is merely an ad hominem fallacy.
“Jews created Islam. . . to destroy their Christian enemies in the Near East, such as the Christian Byzantine Empire.”
It’s hopeless with nuts like you. We did NOT invent Islam. We did not turn ourselves into dhimmis.
“No surprise, because that’s what ‘golems’ do.”
You don’t know the first thing about that tale – the golem’s job was to defend Jews, not kill them.
“But Jews and Muslims have enjoyed a long mutual hatred of Christian nations. They conspired to destroy Christian Spain and then lived peacefully together in Muslim-occupied Spain for hundreds of years.”
Boy, you’re just stupid enough to have never heard about the 1066 Granada massacre.
As for your Dr. Kurt Munzer friend, again, just because some Jew says something bad. . . it’s true?
CFT
Yes, Yitz, let’s talk about the 1066 Granada “massacre” of the Jews by the Muslims.
This is a perfect example of the Russian proverb, “The Jew always tells you what happened to him but never tells you why.”
The wealthy Jew Joseph ibn Naghrela was a close advisor to the Muslim King Badis al-Muzaffar of Granada who trusted the Jew implicitly. That fact alone shows how closely the Muslims and Jews worked together over the native Christian population.
But the Jew himself wanted to be king and replace Badis al-Muzaffar, so he made a secret deal with Al-Mutasim ibn Sumadih the ruler of the neighboring Taifa of Almería, a traditional enemy of Granada — he offered to open the gates of the city to allow him to take it, on condition that he installed Joseph as the new king.
When Al-Mutasim ibn Sumadih pulled out of the conspiracy against the king, word got out about Joseph’s intrigues and betrayal of the king who trusted him. He was found out, and he was murdered by the king’s men, along with thousands of Jews in the city of Granada in retribution.
If anyone is to blame for the 1066 massacre of the Jews at the hands of the Muslims, it is clearly Joseph ibn Naghrela himself. Even Jewish historian Bernard Lewis acknowledges Joseph’s perfidy and also says that such violence against Jews was rare in Muslim Spain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1066_Granada_massacre
West
Yetz…..
What’s your educational rebuttal against Henry Ford’s —- “the International Jew”? Was the man just off his rocker?
When Rabbi Steven Wise wrote — “some call it communism, I call it Judaism” …………… was he off his rocker too?
Not that you care ……………. but when people say “Israel did 9-11” it’s kind of a Straw Man and I wish it was never framed that way. I understand why it was.
International Jewry is responsible for 9-11. That is how it should be titled. “Israel” is a mass of Land, so it doesn’t make sense to say “Israel did 9-11”. But International Jewry sure did.
If you could provide an explanation for the dozens of International Jews behind the scenes of 9-11, that would be interesting.
We could start with Lucky Larry Silverstein. Just lucky Yits?
Those Israeli art students???? Just a coincedence?
I could go on and on and on and on.
As if we here could ever convince a jew.
CFT
These comments, and others submitted which we have chosen not to publish, are getting too far afield from the subject of the original article, which is about Jews drafted into the military. If you want to discuss other subjects, please find a relevant article under which to discuss them.
Hilsop
The most comprehensive film on Israel’s involvement in the 9/11 attacks is Mike Delaney’s “Missing Links”. If you haven’t seen it, do so….
https://911missinglinks.com/
Former Liberal
Never went to Hebrew school. Also, if you were truly honest about looking at history, you would also realize that there were reasons Jews have been hated all throughout history. Finally, shut up about Nazis. Yes, the Nazi period was a horrible time in Germany’s history, but it lasted only 12 years.
Normant
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Sparrow
From a comment left on a blog I frequent:
2000 YEARS OF ISRAELI ASSASSINS
The Sicarii (Modern Hebrew: סיקריים siqariyim) were a splinter group of the Jewish Zealots who, in the decades preceding Jerusalem’s destruction in 70 CE, strongly opposed the Roman occupation of Judea and attempted to expel them and their sympathizers from the area.The Sicarii carried sicae, or small daggers, concealed in their cloaks. At public gatherings, they pulled out these daggers to attack Romans and alleged Roman sympathizers alike, blending into the crowd after the deed to escape detection.
“DANGEROUS LIAISON: THE INSIDE STORY OF THE U.S.- ISRAELI COVERT RELATIONSHIP by Andrew Cockburn/Leslie Cockbure
Brian Lamb:
Leslie Cockburn, what was the most interesting part of writing this book?
Leslie Cockburn
THE INSIDE STORY OF THE U.S.-ISRAELI COVERT RELATIONSHIP”:
There are a number of things. For example, one particular part which I found most interesting was we talk about Israeli operations in Colombia and some of the Israeli commandos who trained the hit squads of the Medellin cartel. It turns out that they had trained us in Israel as well when they were between trips to Colombia. These were the same people who also trained most of the top commanders in the Guatemalan military and also trained the Contras. They had a firm that was under license to the Israeli Ministry of Defense, and then they’d turn up in the jungles of Puerto Boyac in Colombia. So, we had a lot of adventures, I must say.
Someone said to us,
“Do you know what the function of the Jerusalem Post is?”
We said, “What?”
He said, “It’s to give the American ambassador a happy breakfast.”
So they’re very conscious of, “Hebrew is for us and English is for everyone else.” We also found with books and also some diaries and documents there was a treasure trove. The Israelis, of course, are good at keeping secrets. It’s not like they spill everything out and they have to have a freedom of information. But there is still a wealth of detail and information and color and a lot of what you need to know to understand the connection we’re talking about in Hebrew.
Brian Lamb:
How did you get it translated? Was it expensive?
Andrew Cockburn
Yes, but we thought it was worth the investment.
Brian Lamb:
Can you give us an example of something that you learned that was in Hebrew that we never saw in English?
Andrew Cockburn
Sure. The ’67 war, for example. The people’s general view of the 1967 war was all the Arabs sort of ganged up on Israel and may have even attacked Israel and the Israelis fought them off and won the great victory which got them the West Bank that people are arguing about today.
In fact, let me give you a quick background. Let me put it this way:
We found a book of memoirs written by a guy who was the military aide to the then-prime minister of Israel. It was a guy called Israel Lior. He gives an account in this book which has never been translated into English. It’s available only in Hebrew; in fact, wasn’t even a bestseller there. He gives an account how on June 3, 1967 — two days before the war broke out — he was at the home of the prime minister and they were waiting for the head of Mossad to come back from Washington. The head of Mossad had been sent to Washington to get permission, to get the green light, to launch the war. He explains, “We knew we could win” — he’s explained already in the book –
“The generals were hot to go. They weren’t really scared of the Egyptians or anyone else, but they wanted to go ahead with this and the prime minister had been saying, ‘No, we can’t do it. We can’t attack until we have American permission.’”
Andrew Cockburn:
He gives this very vivid description of how Meir Amit, the head of Mossad, comes back into the room at midnight. The high command is sitting around, and this being an Israeli meeting the air is thick with cigarette smoke. Amit walks back in and they say,
“Well, what is it? Is it war or no war? Will they let us go?”
Amit says,
“Well, I’ve been given to understand, the Americans have told me that they will bless us if we crush Nassar, and that’s it.”
They started the war on Monday morning. He’d been to Washington and he’d seen Richard Helms, the head of the CIA, and a very few other very senior officials, also including, certainly, James Jesus Angleton, and they got permission to do it. So that was something that had never been in English. Once you’ve read that, you understand that things are a bit different from the kind of histories you read in English.
Brian Lamb:
Did the Israelis cooperate with you at all on this book?
Andrew Cockburn
Well, we never made an official approach to the Israeli government or Mossad or anything like that, but we managed to get in the end to talk to all the people we wanted to talk to in Israel. We talked to people like, for instance, David Kimche who had a long Mossad career. He eventually rose to be deputy head of Mossad, the Israeli secret intelligence agency — the equivalent of the CIA. I remember a wonderful evening we had in his home, in his study, where he was talking in guarded fashion about his career in intelligence. He then went on to be director general of their foreign ministry.
But I certainly noticed around the walls of his study where we were sitting, it was like a history of Israeli covert operations because, for instance, on one wall there were the most beautiful wood carvings, African wood sculptures. I said,
“Oh, they’re lovely, David. Where did you get those?”
“Oh, a present from [Sese-Seko] Mobutu in Zaire.”
“Oh, that one’s nice. Where did that come from?”
“[Jean-Bedel] Bokassa of the Central African Empire.”
Then on another wall beautiful Persian miniatures. “Where did they come from?”
“Oh, a present from the Shah for something we did for him.”
Andrew Cockburn:
So, there was this man sitting, this master spook, surrounded by mementos of his career. And so, we talked to him. We spent a lot of time talking — well, there’s a street in Tel Aviv, an avenue called Shaul Hamalekh, which is right across the street from what’s called the Kirya, which is the Ministry of Defense compound. It’s a huge area in the middle of Tel Aviv. On the other side of Shaul Hamalekh is a row of very fancy high-rises which is basically the headquarters of the Israeli military-industrial complex — I mean, that area is, so you have offices of all the major arms dealers, the offices of the Israeli representatives of the major American defense corporations. You have Mossad headquarters. Just down one side street you have a very beautiful building which is the headquarters of a man called Shaul Eisenberg, which not many people in the outside world know about, but he’s certainly the richest and probably the most powerful man in Israel. He’s the master arms dealer. He’s behind a lot of political campaigns, behind a lot of politicians. Again, very much involved in this secret world of arms deals and covert operations that we talk about as the link with America.
Brian Lamb:
There were two American names early in the book — Al Schwimmer and Hank Greenspun.
Andrew Cockburn:
Al Schwimmer is, again, a fascinating character. He, right at the very birth of Israel — his real name is Adolph Schwimmer, but everyone calls him Al — was basically an arms smuggler for Israel. He was flying in arms during their war of independence from all over the place. He was originally a TWA flight engineer, in fact, but also a brilliant pilot. So, for example, he was flying arms from Prague because in the early days of Israel, in fact, most of their arms or among their most important single arms supplier was the Communist government in Czechoslovakia, and Schwimmer was part of that. He went on to found Israel Aircraft Industries, in the meantime still sort of flying arms, doing covert arms deals around the world. Then years later, his energy still undiminished, he was right at the heart of the Iran-Contra business. He was absolutely central at one point to the covert shipments of arms to Iran.
Hank Greenspun was another fascinating guy. He was a U.S. Army veteran at the end of World War II. He had just moved to Las Vegas to set up a radio station when Al Schwimmer suddenly knocked on the door. He didn’t know him — introduced by a mutual friend — and said,
“Hey, drop everything. I want you to come with us and we’re going down to Mexico. We need you to go and vet some arms that we’ve gotten hold of that we’re buying illegally, in fact. We need to get to Palestine.”
Andrew Cockburn:
So, Greenspun says, “Oh, OK,” drops everything and becomes an arms smuggler, briefly. He disappears from his house for six months, comes back, can’t tell his wife where he’s been and he’s been in Mexico bribing officials. Then he goes back to Las Vegas. He later became very famous as the publisher of the Las Vegas Sun, an early opponent of Joe McCarthy, fought Howard Hughes and, interestingly enough, he was the conduit for many years until the campaign finance laws got tightened up. If candidates, especially Democratic candidates, needed cash in a hurry, Hank Greenspun in Las Vegas was the man to see because in Las Vegas, of course, there’s a lot of cash around. And if you are in dire straits — for instance, Jimmy Carter was saved at a crucial moment of his candidacy in 1976 during the Pennsylvania primary when Hank Greenspun came out with $60,000. So we have characters go all the way through.
Leslie Cockburn:
One point about doing this kind of story about covert operations with U.S. and Israel is that because Israel is such a young country, some of these people who were there are the very beginning, who were making the deals in the ’50s, are still alive. We went to see Isser Harel, who is really a towering figure in covert operations. He was chief of Mossad at a crucial time in the ’50s when this secret relationship we’re talking about was just getting going. There was a deal made in 1951. Ben-Gurion came to Washington and offered the CIA the services of Israeli intelligence.
Brian Lamb:
JAMES JESUS ANGLETON
You tell a story early in the book — you know, I’ve never heard anyone pronounce his full name so I don’t even know if this is right — James Jesus Angleton — or do they call him Jesus [pronounces Hesus]?
Andrew Cockburn:
Although it should be Jesus [Hesus] because that was in recognition of the Mexican half of his family, everyone always pronounced it Jesus.
Brian Lamb:
You tell an early story about a monument to him near Yad Vashem, the memorial to the Holocaust. Explain that story.
Andrew Cockburn:
Right. Well, if you’re going on the outskirts of Jerusalem on the western side at least, you have Yad Vashem, which is the very moving memorial to the Holocaust. If you take the road past there out of town, you down the hill and you wind through a pretty village and eventually come to what’s called the Jerusalem Forest, which is full of memorial groves, if you like, to people who get honored in this way — war heros or simply people who have been killed in war or people recognized by the state of Israel.
We were driving through this one day, and the reason we were doing this was we were looking for the memorial grove, memorial forest, to James Jesus Angleton. Angleton was a CIA man, a senior CIA official, very famous for a number of reasons but he was of interest to us because he was the link for many years between the CIA and the Mossad. The Israelis had all said to us, his old intelligence friends had said, “Oh, yes, we love Jim and Jim was a good friend to Israel and we liked Jim a lot. In fact, after he died” — which was in 1987 — “we created a memorial forest for him. It’s out there. I suppose it’s a bit hard to find. You might not want to look for it, but I can tell you that it’s there.” So, we thought we would go and take a look. We drove out, and there were all these nice groves with nice plaques carved in stone to various people, and we can’t find the Angleton memorial.
Eventually we decided to give up, thinking we had taken the wrong direction or something. We were looking for a place to turn and there is an open space, or it looks like an open space, and we drive up, but it isn’t. It’s basically a garbage dump with a few stunted, dying little trees poking up and a plaque actually on plastic screwed to the stone to James Jesus Angleton. So this was the memorial forest. It’s kind of hard to explain, but in a way it was an Israeli joke. It was, “Look, we’re supposed to like you a lot. We’re supposed to owe you a lot, but we don’t owe anyone anything, so here’s what we really think of you,” and it’s a garbage dump.
Brian Lamb:
Mr. Angleton is dead?
Andrew Cockburn:
He is dead but not forgotten.
Brian Lamb:
Isn’t there a new book just out about him?
Andrew Cockburn:
Yes, but it doesn’t really go into the Israeli side, which is what interests us. Angleton did a number of things. He’s been most written about because he was head of CIA counter-intelligence and got obsessed about a Soviet mole in the CIA. Although that may be the most publicized role he had, he did other things, too, and his most important job really — and this is the role that the agency has always been very keen to obscure. In fact, they prevented one former colleague of his in the agency from writing a book about him because they said, “Oh, my God, if he writes that book, he’ll talk about this particular job,” which was Angleton’s role as a liaison with foreign intelligence services, including the Israelis — particularly the Israelis, in fact. This was an absolutely key role. There’s a lot of bodies buried there. What Angleton was able to do were things the CIA couldn’t do or didn’t want to be seen doing or wanted to do in this country, in which it’s legally precluded from doing. As liaison, Angleton could go to his buddies in foreign intelligence services, and particularly the Israelis, and say, “Help us out.” Angleton was really the point man for the connection that we explain in the book.
Brian Lamb:
What would happen if all American aid to Israel was stopped and the Israelis had to shut down their arms business? What would happen to that country?
Leslie Cockburn:
It would be a disaster.
Brian Lamb:
Why?
Leslie Cockburn:
Because the arms business is the engine that drives the economy of Israel. It’s the biggest export. At this point it’s such a huge part of the economy that they have to continue shipping arms, which is one reason why you get a situation where they’re shipping all over the world, and particularly unattractive situations like shipping to South Africa. So it’s all driven by money, by the desperate need to keep this business going. People will say to you, “Well, we had to go into the arms business in a big way because we wanted to become self-sufficient because there’s always the possibility of a next war.” But, in fact, because they’re very military-aid dependent on the U.S., what’s happened is that they’re more and more dependent on American components, on American research and development and hardly self-sufficient.
There is another element to that which is they have this huge arms industry that they have to keep going and is the major provider of employment in the country, especially of well-paying jobs. Their market, as wars are tailing off around the world, they see as their principal future growth market the Pentagon here. They’re becoming, or trying to be, in fact, more dependent on getting more business out of the U.S. military, which certainly doesn’t make them self-sufficient. If your economy depends on selling stuff to the Pentagon or tending that way, then that makes that connection even greater.
But there’s also on the intelligence side of things — when I say their need for this military industry is desperate, you have a whole intelligence branch that was set up called LAKAM to get high-tech military technology around the world by any means, and that includes stealing it. So you’ve had a lot of cases over the years of LAKAM operations, including in this country, going around to different companies and getting a hold of the blueprints and carting away boxes to bring back to Tel Aviv, because they have to say ahead of the curve.
Brian Lamb:
Do the Israelis lie to the public?
Leslie Cockburn:
In talking about this kind of stuff — covert operations, national security subjects — there is censorship in Israel. So a lot of these things can’t even be discussed. We talk about in the book the Israeli nuclear program and break some ground on this. We talk about the Israeli chain of command, that it takes the prime minister, the head of Mossad and the defense minister to make the decision to push the nuclear button.
Brian Lamb:
Is this the nuclear facility at Dimona?
Leslie Cockburn:
That’s correct.
Brian Lamb:
Is that the only nuclear facility they have?
Leslie Cockburn:
It’s an enormous nuclear facility. But what we’ve discovered . . .
Brian Lamb:
Did you try to go there?
Leslie Cockburn:
Oh, I’ve been to Dimona, yes.
Brian Lamb
Inside?
Leslie Cockburn
No, no, no. That’s very difficult.
Brian Lamb:
Where is it?
Leslie Cockburn
It’s down in the Negev. It’s out in the middle of nowhere, and what happens is when you go to Dimona, if you happen to stop the car and take a picture of it or film it or whatever, you’re out of there very quickly. One defense intelligence agency friend of ours said that he had more flat tires in front of Dimona than anywhere else in Israel. But what we also have discovered was that Israel not only has nuclear weapons, but sophisticated tactical nuclear weapons just like we do. Remember the American Army used to have nuclear land mines, for example, all over Germany.
Well, the Israelis, we’ve discovered, have nuclear land mines seated on the Golan Heights and at one point Ariel Sharon, who is, of course, famous for the invasion of Lebanon and whatnot, went to [Menachem] Begin and said, “Look, you’re busy,” and had a terrible relationship at the time with the chief of Mossad. He wanted to take over sole control of the nuclear button, and Begin, fortunately, said no. But this kind of thing — I mean this is why the Israelis have gone wild for the book and they’ve serialized it in Ma’ariv and written about it in Ha’aretz because they can’t talk about this sort of stuff unless it’s been printed abroad before.
Brian Lamb:
Ma’ariv and Ha’aretz are what?
Leslie Cockburn
They’re two very large Israeli papers. Ha’aretz is the kind of New York Times of Israel and Ma’ariv is the conservative paper.
Brian Lamb:
You point out in your book that one of the things you did differently with this book is you’ve had a lot of translations of a lot of Hebrew in Israeli newspapers. Why?
Andrew Cockburn
Because there’s an amazing amount of information that appears in Hebrew — the Israelis feel comfortable about this because if it’s in Hebrew it’s like it’s among themselves — that doesn’t get translated into English.
They are very conscious of the feeling that Hebrew is like a code. Not many people outside Israel actually speak it. So if you can say something in Hebrew, it’s almost like saying it in secret. We discovered that, for instance, the Hebrew press in Israel is very, very good, and there are a lot of good journalists. There are very good newspapers. An amazing amount of information that never finds its way into the dispatches of foreign correspondents from Israel, very few of whom actually speak Hebrew, nor does it appear in the English-language Israeli papers like the Jerusalem Post.
Someone said to us,
“Do you know what the function of the Jerusalem Post is?”
We said, “What?”
He said, “It’s to give the American ambassador a happy breakfast.”
So they’re very conscious of, “Hebrew is for us and English is for everyone else.” We also found with books and also some diaries and documents there was a treasure trove. The Israelis, of course, are good at keeping secrets. It’s not like they spill everything out and they have to have a freedom of information. But there is still a wealth of detail and information and color and a lot of what you need to know to understand the connection we’re talking about in Hebrew.
Brian Lamb:
How did you get it translated? Was it expensive?
Andrew Cockburn
Yes, but we thought it was worth the investment.
Brian Lamb:
Can you give us an example of something that you learned that was in Hebrew that we never saw in English?
Andrew Cockburn
Sure. The ’67 war, for example. The people’s general view of the 1967 war was all the Arabs sort of ganged up on Israel and may have even attacked Israel and the Israelis fought them off and won the great victory which got them the West Bank that people are arguing about today.
In fact, let me give you a quick background. Let me put it this way:
We found a book of memoirs written by a guy who was the military aide to the then-prime minister of Israel. It was a guy called Israel Lior. He gives an account in this book which has never been translated into English. It’s available only in Hebrew; in fact, wasn’t even a bestseller there. He gives an account how on June 3, 1967 — two days before the war broke out — he was at the home of the prime minister and they were waiting for the head of Mossad to come back from Washington. The head of Mossad had been sent to Washington to get permission, to get the green light, to launch the war. He explains, “We knew we could win” — he’s explained already in the book –
“The generals were hot to go. They weren’t really scared of the Egyptians or anyone else, but they wanted to go ahead with this and the prime minister had been saying, ‘No, we can’t do it. We can’t attack until we have American permission.’”
Andrew Cockburn:
He gives this very vivid description of how Meir Amit, the head of Mossad, comes back into the room at midnight. The high command is sitting around, and this being an Israeli meeting the air is thick with cigarette smoke. Amit walks back in and they say,
“Well, what is it? Is it war or no war? Will they let us go?”
Amit says,
“Well, I’ve been given to understand, the Americans have told me that they will bless us if we crush Nassar, and that’s it.”
They started the war on Monday morning. He’d been to Washington and he’d seen Richard Helms, the head of the CIA, and a very few other very senior officials, also including, certainly, James Jesus Angleton, and they got permission to do it. So that was something that had never been in English. Once you’ve read that, you understand that things are a bit different from the kind of histories you read in English.
PLANT A TREE
An “age-old ritual” for American Jews who visit Israel is to pay the Jewish National Fund $10 and plant a tree in honor or memory of a friend or relative. Preying on diaspora sentiment, it is a $50 million-per year business. In 2000 it was discovered by the Israeli newspaper Ma’ariv that workers at the popular Jerusalem planting site “cynically uproot the saplings planted by tourists to make way for the new day’s busloads.” [SONTAG, D., 7-3-2000, p. A4]
Sparrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHZdbcqnKdQ
U S Israeli Covert Relationship Money, Mossad, & the CIA Dangerous liaison: The Inside Story
Paul Michael O'Donohoe
before google withdrew its google + pages i copied this article regarding indias modi a israeli mossad asset , apco i discovered is linked to common purpose a subversive org whos ceo julia middleton is a communist she was editor for communist newspaper an example of those linked to common purpose are tony blair, david cameron, john major, robert peston that tv presenter who was with bbc now itv , common purpose is a infiltration tool under guise of a charity they have graduates in education, politics, media, health , in the church too . here is that article
The Bilderberg and Mossad created APCO Worldwide and it’s sister concern ASERO Worldwide with it’s puppet Narendra Modi has created a base in Gujarat.
Margery Kraus founded APCO Associates in 1984 as a subsidiary to Arnold & Porter, one of Washington’s largest law firms, and from where APCO’s name is derived. Arnold and Porter is now Israel’s largest and longest serving registered foreign agent (not that there aren’t more than a handful of unregistered ones).
Beating the War Drum
Doing public relations for dictatorships is perhaps the more charitable part of Apco’s activities. Apco has a battalion of pro-war lobbyists under its wing. The firm is also a strong advocate of expanding armaments and the US military role in world affairs. In October 2004, Apco and Kissinger Associates (owned by Henry Kissinger) formed a strategic alliance. Beside Kissinger Associates, Apco also built a broad network or coalition of conservative pro-Zionist lobbyists and consultancy groups including Heritage Foundation, Frontier of Freedom, Jewish Policy Center, etc. In the name of war against terror, Apco helped to coordinate government communications to convince the public of the necessity of war. Its job also included manufacturing public opinion and feedback in supporting the war efforts. Basically it exploited Islam-phobia in Western society to sell aggression as the solution to regain security in the West.
In addition to supporting George Bush, Apco also defended British Prime Minister Tony Blair’s unpopular move to enter the Iraq war. Apco had assisted Tony Blair to consolidate the war alliance. Together with the London-based Foreign Policy Institute, Apco prepared and published the pamphlet, ‘A Global Alliance for Global Values’ in which Blair declared:
“We must commit ourselves to a complete renaissance of our strategy to defeat those that threaten us.”
After the invasion of Iraq, Apco swiftly positioned itself to help American companies plunder Iraqi wealth and resources. In May 2003, Apco Worldwide launched a task force headed by Marc Ginsberg, the former US ambassador to Morocco, to help U.S. clients secure contracts for Iraq’s rebuilding.
APCO in its own words
“APCO is proud of its work over the past 25 years providing strategic communication services to many governments, including the Government of Malaysia. APCO has also provided services to many of the world’s leading companies and to international institutions such as the World Bank, United Nations, the European Commission and ASEAN, among others.”
Before proceeding further let me throw some light on Bilderberg.THE MINUTES OF THE FIRST MEETING of the Bilderberg Group which met at the Bilderberg Hotel in Oosterbeek Holland in May 1954 tell it all:
— “..to evolve an international order which would look beyond the present world crises. When the time is ripe our present concepts of world affairs should be extended to the whole world.” — (From Europe’s Full Circle, Rodney Atkinson).
What Do They Want?
Money.
Sex.
Access.
Patronage.
Power.
Over the course of human history, the former four things have been used by men and women to gain the latter. The giving, taking away, or making it known that one’s behavior can affect the giving or taking away of these things, make up the machinations of power. But where does this power lie? With presidents, billionaires, celebrities and royalty? With intellectuals, entertainers, media titans or businessmen? Is that power earned or given? Who is really in charge?
The organization called the Bilderberg Group, a shadowy secret society born in the ashes of World War II. Its membership is a fiercely guarded secret and its mission unknown to all but its initiated followers. There is evidence that it’s been involved in choosing international leaders, manipulating the global economy and pressing for a unified world government. Some believe its overarching goal is even more insidious: the complete enslavement of the world’s countries and wholesale slaughter of most of the global population.The special aim of the project is control the resources of countries and breaking thier soverigniety.
APCO has strong links to the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group.
APCO has strong links to top US-Israeli political, financial and security-intelligence institutions.
Apco’s involvement in various intelligence and security-related projects is done through its strategic partner and sister company Asero Worldwide. While Apco’s expertise is in the field of communications, Asero specializes in homeland security and risk management consultancy.
Ken Silverstein, the editor of Harper’s Magazine (June 30, 2007) described Apco lobbyists as the “crucial conduit through which pariah regimes advance their interests in Washington”. He exposed APCO’s specialised experience in working on behalf of authoritarian regimes such as Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, and Turkmenistan.
Modi and Bilderberg puppet gets makeover from APCO
Modi’s backers include the US-based PR/lobby giant APCO Worldwide.Adolf Hitler was a brilliant propagandist. Narendra Modi too believes in the power of image. This is probably why the chief minister hired a US lobbying firm which has serviced clients like former Nigerian dictator Sani Abacha and President-for-life of Kazakhstan Nursultan Abishuly Nazarbayev
This Washington-based firm, Apco Worldwide, was hired by Modi sometime in August 2007, in the run-up to an important Assembly election, to improve his image before the world community. Among its recent clients are Mikhail Khodorkovsky, a former Communist youth leader-turned-Russian billionaire with mafia links.
The firm has a distinction of taking contracts of boosting images of leaders who fell out of favour of their followers.
On the face of it Apco Worldwide’s brief is to build and sell Brand Gujarat to the international community. APCO, through its 32 offices across the globe, has been promoting Gujarat as a great investment destination. APCO has also been managing Modi’s own behaviour and projection, for which the cost has been over $25,000 per month since 2007.
“Although TIME’s cover story is not an endorsement, it contains inaccuracies, half-truths and glaring omission of pertinent details on Mr. Modi’s tenure as Chief Minister. These betray its real objective – an attempt by APCO Worldwide, Modi’s PR firm in Washington DC – to combat negative coverage of their client’s documented connivance in gross human rights violations, in order to project him as a Prime Ministerial candidate,” said Mr. Shaheen Khateeb, President of IAMC.
“Mr. Narendra Modi as the potential Prime Minister of India is a diplomatic and moral conundrum for the United States and other countries of common human values,” added Mr. Khateeb.
Now it may get pretty much clear Why Modi was elected and approved as the prime minister of India.
How APCO transformed a mass murderer into a ‘messiah’
http://en.harakahdaily.net/index.php/articles/analysis-a-opinion/4585-how-apco-transformed-a-mass-murderer-into-a-messiah.html
Providing a legal basis to attack Iran
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/providing-a-legal-basis-to-attack-iran/2012/09/27/e30e87a4-043b-11e2-91e7-2962c74e7738_story.html
APCO Worldwide India Brochure
http://www.apcoworldwide.com/content/PDFs/India_Brochure.pdf
Sparrow
Thank you for info Paul…the rabbit hole is endless isn’t it? Everyday I wish for a marquee outside my house to inform the passerby’s of these crimes. imo the US (my birth and only home on earth) will never repent for these truths because most everyone’s SELF interests aren’t hurting or left dead in the water yet. I see them daily…new cars/trucks/toys…xpesive homes with highly manicured lawns…and those who don’t have to count pennies at the grocery store including the so-called EBT entitled that have never worked a day in their life. The vexation is damn hard to live with. I call on The Almighty everyday for justice because there’s just rank corruption in every single institution and around every corner. The so-called Justice system is as foul as the sewer, me being a prime target as of late. Take care and keep up the share on so many ugly truths.
Paul Michael O'Donohoe
i pray to god for the enemies of our race to be judged judgement be cast upon them i pray from my soul my very being . here are some articles here we have Nicole Junkerman a mossad agent infiltrated into nhs facilitated by common purpose , mossad asset matt hancock “Nicole Junkermann, who has been linked to Mossad and Jeffrey Epstein, has infiltrated the NHS so patient data in hands of mossad treason , nye bevan would be ashamed of what his nhs has become https://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2019/12/nhs-is-being-sold.html?fbclid=IwAR1-YC3ST_SmVHPIIhVBInkP6U8BiPqlon1bZQi1Vnt2unkjZYaYxStgi58 , Mossad controlling British military through Liam Fox (Secretary of Defence) and Adam Werritty (his ‘friend’) same situation but different corrupt mp http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=2790 , Israel using Facebook to distribute terrorist instructions and incite hate
http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=2665 , Jewish-American in the US Navy caught spying for Israel http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=2140 , Israel secretly sells American nuclear weapons to China
http://www.theinsider.org/News/article.asp?id=776 , Israel caught spying on America again
An American Jew has been caught passing military secrets from inside the Pentagon to Israeli intelligence http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=566 , here is israeli intelligence NICE they work with many uk police departments and probably other countries https://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/company/nice-systems?fbclid=IwAR2ROtjQ6yI4V1yRXTWhhEdYs1LOjT7L6yuY4eX3YXKjFMf7NGroN2RJsYg
here we have common purpose who is linked to apco who is linked to mossad deep within the uk parliament is common purpose a subversive org that pretends its a charity but the ngo is a front for infiltration to undermine countries founded in 1987 its ceo julia middleton and david bell are heads of common purpose the work within the un united nations but the common purpose ceos are just frontmen for higher power linked to cp is george soros , common purpose run leadership courses to train people to act beyond authority undermine the departments they work for to carry out an agenda , common purpose run behavioural insights nudge unit thinking up psychological warfare against uk people straight out of tavistock institute playbook , common purpose train graduates who in effect act as agents so in uk common purpose is in police as cressida dick is a common purpose graduate they are in the bbc , nhs, many others , known common purpose locations usa, canada, ireland, uk, france, germany, turkey, hong kong, australia, south africa, libya, ghana, india, pakistan who knows where else so who are backers of common purpose rothschild bankers, jp morgan, goldman sachs many others https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/magic-madness-governments-nlp-assault-our-minds?fbclid=IwAR3d4rSlmkJKT7Br1E-GUy4SxpcxW052JBpzE-mEnIHjRDrJvde2LVURtJQ
there are probably more articles to find if they are still out there , on facebook i ran many groups acting as information sharing .
Jack U.
Samuel Whittemore fought in the American Revolution at 80 years old, and had more courage and grit than all the Jews on the planet combined. Read how he fought against the British:
“Whittemore was in his fields when he spotted an approaching British relief brigade under Earl Percy, sent to assist the retreat. Whittemore loaded his musket and ambushed the British from behind a nearby stone wall, killing one soldier. He then drew his dueling pistols and killed a grenadier and mortally wounded a second. By the time Whittemore had fired his third shot, a British detachment reached his position; Whittemore drew his sword and attacked. He was shot in the face, bayoneted thirteen times, and left for dead in a pool of blood. He was found alive, trying to load his musket to fight again. He was taken to Dr. Cotton Tufts of Medford, who perceived no hope for his survival. However, Whittemore lived another 18 years until dying of natural causes at the age of 98.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Whittemore
Paul
Jews have suffered the calumny of malingerer , shirker or Druckeberger . But is this fair??? Jews have been indispensable in every war this century , serving all branches in sartorial uniforms accompanying the highest officers and even amongst the common soldier though somewhat after aloof ; and armed only with a camera . They were essential using thier international experience to conclude a glorious peace , ephemeral though it may be ; and always only the victorious side.
They were everywhere on east and western fronts with weapons when the second war was over . And the amused GI could observe their merciless way of raping women defiant enough to survive and shooting unarmed soldiers , foolish enough to surrender. American officers admired thier extra-legal methods of extracting confessions from war criminals , for crimes jew partisans and resistance had cleverly signed thier names to. Please do not malign the valorous jew , Could not win a war without them. Never forget USS Liberty . They were there too!
Normant
Exemption of Jews from military service June 26th 1937- American Rabbi’s- let the Goyim fight we make profits. https://www.worldtruth.online/photo/365190/exemption-of-jews-from-military-service-june-26th-1937/
https://worldtruthvideos.website/articles/read/the-jwo-file-there-is-only-one-conspiracy-all-others-are-related-to_548.html
Updated link for Exemption Letter listed above.
https://worldtruthvideos.website/upload/images/29d281c00482ebfdda102ccf6b1550fff3ce40327724eb65328aa5f49d33f2d7_11481.jpg
Christian
I wouldn’t call Putin’s 300K reservists any more of a “draft” than the US call of 400K reservists in 2001 was a “draft”. A draft typically involves calling up civilians between 18 & 25 who may break the law & try to “dodge the draft”, not using troops in the National Guard (which is one of the secrets of the Russian Army, a lot of it is like a really high-level national guard, which is why they can have so many conscripts on a modest budget & why their actions range from brilliant & scary, to naïve & incompetent).
The Khazarian Iew Zelensky is the most insufferable politician on the planet btw.
Scanner
Coward jews.
Surrounded by the biblical “hedge of thorns” in the cursed, abandoned and stolen land so called “israel” they have a paranoid sense of temporary safety. They are surrounded by mixed race sewer people on all sides that utterly hate them. To make matters worse, they are incapable of defending themselves without the 24/7 protection that the united states gives them.
Talk about a glass house.
The biblical revenge upon Edom is setting itself up just as prophecy said it would. Let them flee and gather themselves in bundles for the day of wrath to come.
There is no where you can hide from Yahweh, children of cain. Nowhere. Underground, above ground or in the air. You will drink of the cup of wrath.
Shlomo Bergsteinowitz
This problem of Jews avoiding the Russian draft go back several hundred years. They avoided military service by hiding out at some relatives place so they wouldn’t have to serve the nation that gave them shelter.
Mustard gas
Funny, Jews are really sensitive about this accusation against them, that they avoid military service.
To “prove” that they are just as courageous as the rest of us, they cherry pick examples of Jews who have fought in our wars, and even won medals for valor.
What they don’t tell you is that these are the exceptions, not the rule.
Also, they never tell you what percentage per capita of Jews avoid the draft versus non-Jews.
Everybody knows that Jews have a well-deserved reputation of getting “notes” from one of their many “uncles” who are doctors attesting to some medical condition that disqualifies them for service.
Here they blame their false image as shirkers on the evil Nazis….
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/central-european-history/article/abs/remasculinizing-the-shirker-the-jewish-frontkampfer-under-hitler/20F40718D9A98096DAECBBA2F1CB7EDC
Former Liberal
I’m a U.S. veteran, and saw first hand that Jews don’t serve in the military. My Dad was a World War Two U. S. Army veteran, fully Jewish, yet his military service changed him, so he didn’t much care for them either.
Why am I not surprised that Russian Jews are trying to evade the draft? Jews certainly did the same in World War Two, Korea and Vietnam over here. Generally, I have found that Jewish men are physical and moral cowards, anyway. That’s why as a lady, I never dated them.
Yitz
Well, if you’re really Jewish [of half-Jewish], your Dad disproved “the rule,” as you call it. He served. You wonder why there are not that many Jews in service today? Because only 1% of the American population ever put on the uniform, and the Jewish demographic is, what? 2%. Yep. So I’d hardly expect any.
And that’s okay. If we were 50% of the American population, yes, we’d have a lot more in uniform.
Are you a self-hating Jew, or just an antisemitic goy playing it up?
Old Guy
Why are you attacking a Jewish woman because she calls out her fellow Jews for being cowards? This is how Jews get the well-deserved reputation of disowning any Jew who won’t toe the party line, those you smear as “mosers”.
As far as your math is concerned, it’s not persuasive. Of course, Jews will have far fewer in uniform based on their small numbers. That’s not the issue. The issue is what percentage of Jews actually serve in the military versus non-Jews? What percentage of that 1% or 2% actually serves that are eligible to serve?
I get it. Most of our military comes out of the working class, and Jews don’t like to do that kind of work, which automatically puts them beyond the reach of the draft. But the issue here is volunteering, I think, rather than being compelled. Most white Americans volunteered for both world wars regardless of class, my grandfather included.
I’ve known a lot of Jews in my life, including in New York City, and none of them had any military service, nor anyone in their families. However, I’ve known a lot of non-Jews who had members of their families serve in the military. Go into any small town in America, that’s where you’ll find the veterans of wars. Anecdotal, yes, but as an older man who has seen a lot in life, that sample is probably accurate of the larger picture.
Yitz
“Why are you attacking a Jewish woman because she calls out her fellow Jews for being cowards? This is how Jews get the well-deserved reputation of disowning any Jew who won’t toe the party line”
First, I didn’t “attack” her. Secondly, she must be a self-loathing Jew because nobody speaks (or writes) like that if they’re proud to be part of our civilization.
“The issue is what percentage of Jews actually serve in the military versus non-Jews? What percentage of that 1% or 2% actually serves that are eligible to serve?”
How the heck would I know?
“I get it. Most of our military comes out of the working class, and Jews don’t like to do that kind of work, which automatically puts them beyond the reach of the draft.”
Well, not exactly. If WWIII starts, America will draft anyone they can get their hands on (starting with Gen Z first) – Jews included. Now, we might have higher ASVAB scores, but that won’t mean much as Jews would still be serving in one capacity of another (if you think we should all be in the front lines or don’t serve a purpose otherwise, try going without nurses and cooks – because they’re all equally important).
“I’ve known a lot of Jews in my life, including in New York City, and none of them had any military service, nor anyone in their families.”
Plenty of Jewish families have members who’ve served in the IDF. That military enough for you?
Old Guy
Yitz, you don’t seem to know what’s going on in Israel vis a vis the military draft. According to a 2018 article in the Jerusalem Post, “…the number of draft-evasions has never been higher.”
https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/The-myth-of-compulsory-military-service-in-Israel-569779
And this, “Successfully circumventing mandatory enlistment is becoming an increasingly widespread occurrence in Israel. The enlistment rate among Israelis who are obligated to serve has plummeted from 75% to less than 50% in only 20 years. While Israeli law allows the military to punish draft-evaders with jail time, the reality is that most cases are simply ignored.”
And this, “…motivation among new recruits to join combat units is declining at an alarming rate.”
So it seems that even with quasi-mandatory service, the IDF is struggling to find Jews who are willing to fight for Israel. It’s understandable, given how Jews have traditionally not seen themselves as full members of societies in which they dwell, that they don’t want to fight their wars, even if those wars are in their interest, such as WWII. But clearly Jews now don’t even want to fight for Israel in large numbers.
If Israel can’t get Jews to fight, I think it should be obvious that Jews do have a tendency to avoid military service. It’s an unflattering reality, but it’s reality none the less. Live with it.
Former Liberal
Thanks. That person Yitz or whatever he calls himself, doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I was very fortunate to have a classical education which emphasized the achievements of Western Civilization. Also, I’m just stating facts.
After World War Two, my father married a first generation American woman whose family is German. If Yitz is offended by my genetics, too bad! The military turned me into a truth seeker. One of the results of that change was I began to understand how bad Jewish behavior has been throughout the ages. My parents exposed us kids to both Christianity and Judaism.
In Jewish Sunday school, a seed of doubt was planted in my mind after continuously hearing the mantra, “Everyone hates us for no reason at all”. This time was before the Internet and before I became a serious amateur historian. Eventually, I refused to go the local Temple for Sunday school.
Seems like Yitz has a serious problem with Jews and half Jews who stray away from the fold. And, why should I hate anyone? I just despise bad behavior. Finally, Did Yitz ever serve? Yes, many military members come from blue collar backgrounds, but some of us during the late 1980’s and 1990’s went in out of patroitism. I wasn’t even thinking about the military until I visited some of mother’s East German relatives before enlisting. I felt I had to take some kind of stand against communism.
Rasta
IDF soldiers are “courageous” only when they know they have overwhelming superiority in weaponry and technology. Full body armor, heavily protected vehicles with lethal anti-crowd weapons, phosphorous bombs, all against rock throwing Palestinians. And they still wet their pants now and again.
https://thecradle.co/Article/News/16875
crony
Hey Former Liberal:
Looks like Yitz is accusing you of “Mesirah”….you’ve betrayed the Jewish mafia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesirah
midge
To help Jewish soldiers avoid direct combat with unarmed Palestinians, IDF sends in drones to kill them in West Bank:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-authorizes-military-kill-palestinians-drones-west-bank/5796318