This short but compelling video by Nathan Hoffman — Were the Pyramids Built Before the Flood? (Masoretic Text vs. Original Hebrew) — explains whether or not the Egyptian pyramids were built before the flood of Noah’s day — and why the answer ultimately comes to bear on the divinity of Jesus Christ.
The video also examines the compares the accuracy of the Hebrew Masoretic text with the Greek Septuagint, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Tower of Babel, the age of the Earth, an extra ‘Cainan’ in Jesus’ genealogy, and the identity of the Melchizedek priesthood…
It clearly demonstrates how the Jews distorted their own Masoretic Bible in their vain and dishonest attempt to disprove that Christ was indeed the Messiah promised in Isaiah — and thus discredit Christianity in general.
But all that their efforts really accomplished was making their own “religion” — Talmudic Judaism — look ridiculous and un-scriptural. For example, by making it appear that the pyramids were built before the flood, there wouldn’t be enough time for the Tower of Babel event to have taken place, and Shem would have had to outlive all his sons and seven subsequent generations of his descendants — so as to be alive at the same time as Abraham.
The Jews monkeyed with the biblical timeline for the sole purpose to ‘prove’ that Christ could not be the ‘High Priest’ claimed in Acts 23:4-5. Their twisting of scripture reveals just how little they actually know about the Bible, and how little they should be trusted — they are not our ‘spiritual elders’.
But thankfully God’s Word was preserved in the Greek Septuagint, which reveals the machinations of the Jews to us, and their eternal hatred of Christ:
The video begins…
According to Creation Scientists, the great flood in Noah’s day occurred in about 2350 BC. And the Tower of Babel event would have occurred sometime after that — and then the Great Pyramids of Giza would have been built sometime after that.
But according to Egyptologists, the Great Pyramids were built about 2550 BC, about 200 years before the Flood. But wait a minute now — how could the Egyptians have built the Pyramids a whole 200 years before when the nation of Egypt didn’t even exist until after The Tower of Babel? That doesn’t make any sense.
The Great Pyramids do not have any signs of water damage. If the Pyramids were built before the Flood and are still standing after the Flood, then that would mean the Pyramids would have been completely submerged in the flood waters and should have a significant amount of water damage, but they don’t…
And so Egyptian history predates Noah’s Flood — and continues on after the Flood unaffected by it — then the skeptics say a worldwide flood never happened or biblical history must be inaccurate.
However, the Pyramids are built on top of sedimentary layers which contain fossils. Creation scientists say that these layers were laid down during the Flood, which is evidence that the Pyramids would have been built after the Flood, not before it.
Also the name Egypt in Hebrew is Mizraim — and MIzraim is the son of Ham, the grandson of Noah. So clearly the Egyptians are the descendants of Noah’s grandson. But Noah didn’t begin to have grandsons until after they stepped off the Ark. So clearly Egyptian history could not have begun until after the Flood.
So instead of questioning biblical history, it makes sense to question Egyptian history. Is Egyptian history really accurate?
According to an award-winning documentary ‘Patterns Of Evidence: Exodus’, some scholars believe that Egyptian history has been dated incorrectly — and needs a major adjustment. Experts like John Bimson and David Rohl believe that Egyptians history needs to be moved forward on the timeline by about 200 years…
And when you correct the inaccuracies on this Egyptian timeline, then all of a sudden Egyptian history lines up perfectly with the events of the Exodus…
This would mean that the Pyramids would not have been built about 2550 BC, but rather they would have been built about 200 years after that, about 2350 BC, making the Pyramids contemporary with the Flood in Noah’s day. So that solves the problem, right?
…The Great Pyramids of Giza are not the oldest pyramids. The Step Pyramid at Saqqara is the first Egyptian pyramid ever built, and it predates the pyramids of Giza by about 100 years, which would place the Step Pyramid at about 2450 BC, which still predates the Flood by about 100 years…
That still doesn’t solve the problem: the pyramids still predate the Flood, which means the only option left over is you have to question the biblical timeline.
Now, that’s not to say you should question biblical authority, but rather is the timeline presented by Creation Scientists really even biblical at all?
Well, according to the Greek Septuagint, it’s not…
Lecture continues in video:
We also recommend Hoffman’s video “How Long Were The Israelites In Egypt?”:
What I can’t understand from all of the talk of the Bible, its, history, events, persons, authenticity , is why we pretend that these are books about the Jews and preserved by the Jews and we owe them for our religious beliefs and religious history.
It’s as though we are using books they compiled over the ages from their life experiences and put together as their history, and then the New testament begins the history of the Christian world, with the birth of Christ but using the Old Testament credited to the Jews as an explanation of the beginning of the world , creation of mankind and history of creation, as though the Christian world were pagans and are dependent on the Jews for our knowledge of the world, history , God, creation and preservation of history ,language, knowledge etc.
From what I understand is the Catholic Church or early Christian’s had a mass of books to select from and some were accepted and some rejected which came to form the Bible.
If the Jew does not believe in Christ and rejects him, has foul names and descriptions of him in their Talmud, then why do Christian’s tolerate the Jew and allow him to look down on the Christian world and subvert it and destroy Christian values and society by infiltrating our government, medical , social, education , military and other institution’s? Why don’t we stand up to our religious preachers ?
There was a day when in the Catholic Church, abortion, the Cold War , homosexuality, alcohol abuse and other bad habits were condemned and people accepted it and tried as best they could to follow the teaching’s, yet tolerated things like homosexuality by a sort of indifference by not making an issue of it as long as it was not outright promoted or practiced or shoved in a person’s face. Just like fathers smoked and drank, but encouraged their children not to.
We have allowed the Jews to look down on the Christian world and destroy it while they enjoy and benefit from it because we’re ashamed to confront them, reveal their own filthy Talmud, but allow them to desecrate the Bible by printing new editions, new wording, new descriptions, new meanings etc. And to make sure they are not exposed, the Jews pass anti semitic laws to persecute those who do expose the Jew, his history, background, ,Talmud, etc.
They have their own book, called the Talmud, and the Christian has his own book called the Bible. We should stand up for the Bible and if it is not a book about Jew’s history, we should not let them get away with subverting our world, culture, history , beliefs ,moral’s as they have their own so called religious book called the Talmud.
And I believe from what little I know and see is that the Jew is well trained in the upper reaches of society and education to defend themselves against criticism of them. And that is what I believe is what makes the Jew so intelligent as he claims to be to the rest of mankind. He is sharp witted and able to deflect criticism about himself.
The Jew is out to rule the world, we know it, our ancestor’s warned us, wrote books about them and their evil, and just like this war between Russia and Ukraine, we let Biden , get away with deliberately causing it to happen by ignoring Putin, who tried to settle or reach an agreement and prolonged it until Putin decided he had to act his way and only way to solve it.
I came to the believe that the true israelites burned by millions in a real Holocaust – the bombing of german cities ’41-’45.
The official number is around 400.000.
Please compare :
““For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” Jude 1:4
Sunil K. Bhattacharjya
Dear Mr. Nathan Hoffman,
I appreciate your good work, but would you like to know that the ancient Indian texts give the date of the Global flood in 3102 BC, by astronomical dating? Would you like to give any comment on this?
I’m just now seeing this. That’s interesting! That sounds about right!
We can’t know, for certain, just where the flood, which was a localized flood, happened. But this video shows that it could very well have been in The Tarim Basin of China. At the time of this flood, one of many floods on our earth, major civilizations were functioning, and they continued after that flood.
And it certainly is a FACT that our Edomite usurpers change world history. One thing they did was to add 1,000 years to our history record, when they changed old years, for example, from i625 to 1625, or J625 to 1625.
Prior to the flood, a single super continent existed. The seven continents of the world today was the result of the flood and during that process the waters rushed over all of the land as it the continents moved into the places they are today. Evidence of the flood is found all over the earth. If you really do your research with an open mind to a global flood, I don’t believe you could come to the conclusion that the flood was only a localized flood.
Why does it matter to you? Do you have a larger point to make?
The (((public school system))) teaches Pangea theory. To be honest, that causes me to doubt it.
Do we have any Biblical evidence that the continents were not always as they were now and, if so, what is it?
‘The Invention of the Jewish People’ is published by New Left Books as owned by Verso. Their logo is the Tatlin Tower, designed by Vladimir Tatlin, in honour of the Communist International movement when it was in its birthing days just after the Russian Revolution. Verso proudly declare at one point on their website “A new edition of the Communist Manifesto, on the 150th anniversary of its original publication, quickly became a global bestseller.” Various MSM accolades to New Left Books are quoted.
Why am I mentioning this? Well, ever since I discovered that the publishers for the Third Reich have since gone on to become one of the biggest media organisations in the world, owning various well known TV, radio, and printing companies, as well as education organisations, I like to check the provenance of my books. (If you think the Nazi’s were *completely* defeated you will have to do a whole lot of research for yourself). I am wary of agendas and certain fabrications being inserted into our history to confuse and mislead. I would be interested to read this book but wary that there may be falsehoods inserted amongst the truths.
I am currently in the process of trying to validate the information presented in ‘The sequel to the Fall Cabal’, a series presented on Bitchute. It talks about the rise of the fake Jews, the Ashkenazim, who originally came from Sumer and spread out to other parts of the world and were briefly overthrown in what is now known as Ukraine. They were forced by the Russian nobility in 600AD to convert to either Christianity, Muslim, or Judaism, of which they chose the last and simply merged it into their existing worship of the enemy of Christ.
Revelation 2:9 refers to these fake Jews. In 965AD Svatoslav the Brave tried to wipe out the Ashkenazim nobility for good but they fled to various parts of Europe where they hatched their plan of revenge and world domination by infiltrating every industry at the highest level. This plan has been in perpetuity ever since. I find it interesting that after this time is when we see the creation of the Hebrew Masoretic text.
I am just new to all this so comments and corrections welcome.
Why do so many people believe the lie about the Jews being God’s chosen people Israel? You only have to read the Bible and listen to what Jesus says about the bad trees not producing good fruits, think of what today’s Jews are involved in, pornography, promoting the many things that go against God’s law, homosexuality, transsexuals, transhumanism etc does any of that sound like good fruit? No its the exact opposite because they do the will of their father who was a liar from the beginning. They worship Satan, the devil. It is for him that they are making the world suitable, for him and his demons to inhabit.
We all do those things. The bible never said the Jews would be perfect. If you can’t see that Jews are set apart for duties unto the end of days, I feel sorry for you. I hope this isn’t a sign that you are one who just loves to have the Jews to hate. Because those people are pathetic.
Problem is: today’s so-called “Jews” have never fulfilled any of the Abrahamic prophecies. They cannot be the same people. It’s not about “hate”. It’s about identity. They are imposters, not real Israelites.
I agree with what you are saying. Matthew 21:23 portrays GOD as the landowner and us humans as tenants. He threw the tenants out once they killed the prophets, his slaves, and his son, Joshua The anointed. He gave it to those that produce good fruit.
Clearly replacement theology.
@Rollo, would you kindly explain replacement theology in the context of Romans 11:17-24?
Also are you of the opinion that modern day Jews are the true Israelites according to the flesh? Have you possibly heard the argument that the Jews are in fact NOT Israelites at all but imposters?
Hello, new to the site.
My Mom took me to church since my birth, and I continued to attend till around 14 yrs of age, when my Dad (who did not attend) said I did not have to go anymore if not desired. Being that age, my pursuits changed to girls and cars of course. Married late to a devout Christian who appealed to my basic beliefs formed years earlier, and began to study again.
After 9/11, began to research more as I believed my eyes instead of what was preached on MSM, just as in 1963. This led to a website with thoughts close to what is discussed here, and knowledge of the NWO.
This learning actually strengthened my faith in Christ, because I had always struggled with the concept of the Jews being the chosen ones, but teachings in the Bible were that the Jews killed Him and deny Him to this day, which did NOT compute.
Passages such as “you who claim to be Jews but are not”, and “we are children of Abraham but were never in bondage”, and “His blood be on us and our children” were very revealing, and being the rebel that I grew up being, led to more reading of the Bible and ideas other than those preached at church.
Then there is the Khazarian kingdom: My early love of maps and geography led to my current work as a land surveyor. This was also an early influence in church since I loved to trace the movements of different peoples and gave a real perspective of early life on foot. The high mountain range between the Black and Caspian seas forming a natural barrier to migrations helped to support the notion that no Semitic people of any great numbers would go that way after the Jewish/Roman wars.
I also notice that in any dictionary, Semitic means a group of languages, not races. With this fact, it naturally follows that the largest group of Semitic people have to be the Arabs, NOT the Jews. Language is a powerful element of tracing the movement of different peoples and their roots.
Also, a large portion of the Israelites remained in Babylon and assimilated into that culture, leading to the assumption that a lot of their blood was spread through that region and exists today in the Arabic world.
I currently have the idea that the true “chosen” ones follow Christ “whosoever believeth in me shall have everlasting life”, since the old covenant is gone and a new one exists.
I am fascinated by this discussion and will read more. Please feel free to correct anything I have spoken here and help me to stay on the narrow path!
(Please excuse any misspellings”)
Christians For Truth
Welcome, Stuart. Yes, 9-11 was a watershed moment for many of us as the official narrative was so patently false. It wasn’t too difficult to figure out who had the means, motive, and opportunity.
We would recommend you read our Core Topics to get an overview of the larger issues we cover here. God brought you here for a reason–hopefully, you will find the answers you’ve been looking for:
@ Mr Westwins; dont know how to exactly answer your question above, but in short, I would simply say that hominids are/were all created by God. Genesis says so and I believe it. The Bible speaks of ‘different peoples’ , i.e. different races. Adam was a different creation – the Bible is clear.
Now, whether Adam was created later – which I personally believe – or was a difference in the original Genesis 1 story, I won’t attempt to argue here, but the FACT is that Adam was and is different than other ‘humanoids’. All you have to do is look around; Adamic man has invented everything, is obviously the only race with a ‘conscience’ , has attempted to bring the other races ‘up’ , to our own detriment, and is the only to care about the earth or its inhabitants. These, and many other traits/characteristics/signs prove that we are the descendants of Adam, Abraham, Israel etc, along with hundreds of other proofs.
Why God created the other races, i cannot specify, nor actually even speculate much. I have my own ideas, but they are just that – ideas. But He did.
The Torah was not even written until 700 BC, 100s of years after the mythical exodus.
Judaism is the “SOUR GRAPES” Tribe. The 10 “plagues” of Egypt are actually 10 INSULTS directed at each of the 10 Egyptian gods that opposed ATEN, the Sun god of the Exodus.
During the 1980s an earthquake shook Biblical myths. The discoveries made by the “new archaeology” discredited a great exodus in the 13th century BC. Moses could not have led the Hebrews out of Egypt into the Promised Land, for the good reason that the latter was Egyptian territory at the time. And there is no trace of either a slave revolt against the pharaonic empire or of a sudden conquest of Canaan by outsiders. Modern archaeology proves that the Exodus actually happened to the Hyksos, not the Hebrews, (What is the date of the Exodus ? To find Moses in the Egyptian records, the first requirement is to fix the date of the Exodus of the Hebrews from Egypt.
If we use the Bible as our primary source, we know that this occurred during the ‘ New Kingdom ’ period of Egypt, when the powerful Egyptian families of the south reasserted themselves and drove out the Hyksos invaders , who had been entrenched in the power centers of northern Egypt for over 100 years.) so claiming descent from Moses really doesn’t mean that much since he seems to have stolen all the stories he wrote down (like the story of the flood copied from the Epic of Gilgamesh). At best he is a great self-promoter; at worst he was a hoaxer like Oded Golan. Some scholars, such as Sigmund Freud, have pointed out the obvious implausibilities on the Moses story and have suggested that “Moses”, an Egyptian word meaning “Prince” may have been another name for the heretic Pharaoh Akhenaten (Amenhotep IV), and the story of the Exodus a highly romanticized telling of his attempted return from exile, with the usual spin so that failure to reclaim his throne is sold to later generations as a symbolic victory.
How else could one explain what is clearly written in the Bible itself:
For millenia the Jews(Egyptian Refugees) have WAILED about their abject slavery under “Torturous, Inhumane” conditions in Egypt.
Name ONE other “religion” that has a HOLIDAY celebrating the genocide of the CHILDREN of their opponents?
THAT is what “Passover” is. They are celebrating the deaths of the First Born children of the Egyptians.
More then that, they are celebrating revenge on the Worshipers of Aton for overthrowing their god Aten.
Alberticus, you have been corrected many times that the Jews are NOT Israelites and were never part of the Exodus, and yet you continue to insist on it despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. And this entire “history” of Egypt you’ve posted is all about discrediting “Jews”. You are trying to show the Exodus is a myth to prove that Jews are liars, but Jews never were Israelites, and they were never in Egypt, and they admitted to Christ that they were never in bondage (John 8:33). And yet you insist on not to listen to anything that contradicts your preconceived ideas of “Jews”. Your desire to discredit Jews at every turn clouds your ability to see reality.
I am right. You are WRONG.
Judaism is neither a race or a religion, it is Xenophobic Tribalism.
XENOPHOBIC: n.A person unduly fearful or contemptuous of that which is foreign, especially of strangers or foreign peoples.
1. The organization, culture, or beliefs of a tribe.
2. A strong feeling of identity with and loyalty to one’s tribe or group.
For 3,500 years Israel has practiced eugenics …. Jewishness is based on: Jewish mother determines that you are Jewish …. Jewish father determines the Tribe (cohen, levite, dan, benjamin) They are a TRIBE …. a family based GANG. If you are not an active member you are NOT part of the GANG. No more than having a cousin in the Hell’s Angels makes YOU a Hell’s Angel.
Alberticus, you are a broken record, a one trick pony who cuts and pastes your own same comment on virtually every article you comment on. You are on auto pilot, merely going through the motions, not really willing to learn anything new or think differently. Your mind is made up, and no amount of reality or truth will change you. How are you any better off than the Jews you claim to so deeply understand?
Judaism started with basically Moses worship after his death.
Israel is Jacob and his Children, 12 tribes.
This nonsense if saying Israel is not the Jews is foolish. Moses is a descendant of Levi, Jacobs son, Moses received the Law from God which the Jews hold to and they hold up Moses.
Wrong, Judaism started in Babylon, which is why their “holy” book is known as the Babylonian Talmud. But Judaism wasn’t codified as a “religion” until after the death of Christ, in reaction to Christ.
They adopted the trappings of the Hebrew religion as mere window dressing to hide the true nature of Judaism which is occult babylonian Satanism. Their entire raison d’etre is anti-Christ. Without Christ and his followers to hate, Jews are nothing. They ultimately worship themselves, which is why they cannot even use the word “God” or “Yahweh”. They call their god “Hashem”, the un-nameable.
Check out the ancient history below the following comment
“Shepherd Kings” that surreptitiously invaded Egypt to split the nation in half and undermine its native rulers and population with their laws? Sounds a lot like the story of Joseph. Then The Egyptian king had to pay these parasites to get them out of Egypt. After the payoff, the “shepherds” stuff their diamonds – I mean gold – up their tuchas and hightail it out of Egypt with their families, chattels and not fewer than two hundred and forty thousand people, crossing the desert into Syria, where they build a city called Jerusalem? Gorsh Mickey, this sure sounds a lot like the Exodus story doesn’t it? Of course wandering forty years in the desert would add tremendous tragedy and a great wailing and gnashing of teeth and rending of garments all around would be in keeping with Jewish literary tradition.
Whatever you want to call them, these “shepherd kings” sure sound like Jews to me. But then again we all know the Jews claims of how they were slaves of the Egyptians in the same fashion as they are now administrative slaves of Biden.
Funny thing, with all the Torah’s stories about Egypt, not once are the pyramids mentioned anywhere. How could such massive structures, considered one of the seven wonders of the world, be missed? It’s like the Torah authors never actually visited Egypt’s Nile Delta region.
Josephus Flavius: Against Apion
Book 1, section 73
Under a king of ours named Timaus (Tutimaeus) God became angry with us, I know not how, and there came, after a surprising manner, men of obscure birth from the east, and had the temerity to invade our country, and easily conquered it by force, as we did not do battle against them. After they had subdued our rulers, they burnt down our cities, and destroyed the temples of the gods, and treated the inhabitants most cruelly; killing some and enslaving their wives and their children.
Then they made one of their own king. His name was Salatis; he lived at Memphis, and both the upper and lower regions had to pay tribute to him. He installed garrisons in places that were the most suited for them. His main aim was to make the eastern parts safe, expecting the Assyrians, at the height of their power, to covet his kingdom, and invade it. In the Saite Nome there was a city very proper for this purpose, by the Bubastic arm of the Nile. With regard to a certain theologic notion it was called Avaris. He rebuilt and strengthened this city by surrounding it with walls, and by stationing a large garrison of two hundred and forty thousand armed men there. Salitis came there in the summer, to gather corn in order to pay his soldiers, and to exercise his men, and thus to terrify foreigners.
After a reign of thirteen years, he was followed by one whose name was Beon, who ruled for for forty-four years. After him reigned Apachnas for thirty-six years and seven months. After him Apophis was king for sixty-one years, followed by Janins for fifty years and one month. After all these Assis reigned during forty-nine years and two months.
These six were their first kings. They all along waged war against the Egyptians, and wanted to destroy them to the very roots.
“These people, whom we have called kings before, and shepherds too, and their descendants,” as he says, “held Egypt for five hundred and eleven years. Then,” he says, “the kings of Thebes and the other parts of Egypt rose against the shepherds, and a long and terrible war was fought between them.”
He says further, “By a king, named Alisphragmuthosis, the shepherds were subdued, and were driven out of the most parts of Egypt and shut up in a place named Avaris, measuring ten thousand acres.” Manetho says, “The shepherds had built a wall surrounding this city, which was large and strong, in order to keep all their possessions and plunder in a place of strength.
Tethmosis, son of Alisphragmuthosis, attempted to take the city by force and by siege with four hundred and eighty thousand men surrounding it. But he despaired of taking the place by siege, and concluded a treaty with them, that they should leave Egypt, and go, without any harm coming to them, wherever they wished. After the conclusion of the treaty they left with their families and chattels, not fewer than two hundred and forty thousand people, and crossed the desert into Syria. Fearing the Assyrians, who dominated over Asia at that time, they built a city in the country which we now call Judea. It was large enough to contain this great number of men and was called Jerusalem.
Book 1, section 93
I shall quote Manetho again, and what he writes as to the order of the times in this case. He says “After this people or “shepherds” had left Egypt to go to Jerusalem, Tethmosis, who drove them out, was king of Egypt and reigned for twenty five years and four months, and then died; …”
Book 1, section 227
He writes these words: “Those sent to work in the quarries lived miserably for a long while, and the king was asked to set apart the city Avaris, which the shepherds had left, for their habitation and protection; and he granted them their wish.
According to the ancient mythology, Avaris was Typho’s city. But when these men had entered it, and found it suitable for a revolt, they chose a ruler from among the priests of Heliopolis, whose name was Osarsiph. They swore an oath that they would obey him in all things. The first laws he gave them were that they should not worship the Egyptian gods, nor should they abstain from any of the sacred animals that the Egyptians held in the highest esteem, but could kill them, and that they should not ally themselves to any but those that were of their conspiracy.
After making such laws as these, and others contrary to Egyptian customs, he ordered that the many the hands at their service to be employed in building walls around the city and prepare for a war with king Amenophis. He colluded with the other priests, and those that were polluted as well, and sent ambassadors to those shepherds expelled by Tethmosis to Jerusalem, informing them of his own affairs, and of the state of those others that had been treated so shamefully, and desired that they would come united to his assistance in this war against Egypt. He also promised their return to their ancient city and land of Avaris and plentiful support for their people; that he would protect them and fight for them if need be, and that the land would easily be subdued. The shepherds were delighted with his message, and assembled two hundred thousand men. Shortly they arrived at Avaris.
King Amenophis of Egypt, when he heard of their invasion, was perplexed remembering what Amenophis, the son of Papis, had foretold him. He gathered many Egyptians, and deliberated with their leaders, and sent for their sacred animals, above all those worshipped in the temples, and ordered the priests to hide the images of their gods with the utmost care. He also sent his son Sethos, who was also called Ramses, and only five years old, from his father Rhampses to a friend of his. He continued with three hundred thousand of the most warlike Egyptians against the enemy, who met them. But he did not join battle with them, afraid to be fighting against the gods. He turned back and returned to Memphis, where he took Apis and the other sacred animals which he had sent for, and continued to Kush, together with his whole army and masses of Egyptians.
The king of Ethiopia was under an obligation to him and received him, and took care of the masses that were with him, while the land supplied all that was necessary for the men’s sustenance. He gave them cities and villages to live in, that was to be from its beginning during those fatally determined thirteen years. He sent his army to guard the borders of Egypt in order to protect King Amenophis. And this is what happened in Kush.”
This is some of what the Egyptians tell about the Jews, I omit much for brevity’s sake. Manetho continues: “Later Amenophis returned from Kush with a great army, his son Ahampses led another army, and both of them joined battle with the shepherds and the polluted people, and conquered them, and killed a great many of them, and pursued them to the borders of Syria.” These and more accounts like them are written by Manetho.
According to the Biblical account, Israelites didn’t found Jerusalem. Jerusalem only became an Israelite city when David finally conquered it. Josephus knew this and wrote on it in Antiquities book 7, chapter 3. Therefore, Josephus’ account of the “shepherd kings” in Against Apion has nothing to do with the Exodus, because Josephus himself would have told you that.
Well……………………Alberticus revealed his true colors.
We are banned in almost every forum outside of this one.
I for one would vote to ban Alberticus from this Forum. He does not offer anything worth while.
I feel like CFT is my second home. I don’t appreciate when a visitor comes into that home and forgets to flush the toilet.
I immediately thought that this guy albertus could be a Jew, sneaking in here to confuse people who are unsure. What do others think?
man alberticus, you are as backwards / full of crap as possible… Not gonna waste my time answering your ‘questions’ ; just gonna shake the dust.
so hows the weather in tel aviv? or have you not looked out of your mommys basement in a while?
The timeline you’re referring to uses the Masoretic timeline and an incorrect interpretation of the timeline of Egyptian history. When using the Septuagint timeline and making corrections in the Egyptian historic timeline, we can see the Exodus actually happened toward the end of Middle Kingdom Egypt. There’s a lot of archaeological evidence for that time.
Here’s a nice summary of the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI1yRTC6kGE
In so little time and limited knowledge one is anxious to promote a healthy disclosure of Truth in a world or time when it has become persecuted , more recondite and bitterly irrelevant. Since the time of Jesus of Nazareth it is never more important than in this day. Indeed, adventure into disclosure or compelling confession provokes controversy.
Unity today is worldly with this madness of universalism as the church disintegrates. These extremes must be eluded through discretion. Censoring seems everywhere . I confess it a sign of the time s when what is accepted as confession of holy scripture is relegated to common belletristic .
What to believe ? But I thank you for your admonition and shall not offend the host as a good guest.
Christians For Truth
Paul, don’t worry that you’re offending anyone here. We truly value your comments which show deep insight and understanding.
But we cannot give up hope that the truth is within our earthly grasp in some sense–it cannot be as the Jews contend all merely radical subjectivity, where the line between fact and opinion disappears.
If we believe God exists, then objective truth must exist, and it must be within our abilities as Adamic creations to discern objective truth, otherwise we could never know that God MUST exist.
God wrote that objective truth in our hearts (Jeremiah 31), but the world under satanic control is doing everything in its power to make us doubt ourselves and that truth that goes to the core of our identity.
We cannot give in to those powers, to despair, which is to fall away from God.
CFT — great comment. A true reflection of your soul. 🙂
Thank you for bolstering my hope.
The Jews own writings say that Israel will not B established until their Messiah returns.
Since they haven’t recognized Christ as their Messiah/Savior, then Israel is a blasphemy.
Sy, Christ is NOT the messiah or savior of today’s Jews–they are NOT Israelites but rather Khazars pretending to be Israelites. Christ came only for the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel (Matthew 15:24), and today’s Jews cannot be counted among them, which explains why they do NOT hear His voice (John 10:27).
I’m not sure what Jewish “writings” you are referring to here, but they did NOT write the Old Testament, so you must be referring to The Talmud, which claims that Christ is in hell boiling in excrement. These people are not redeemable.
14But the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart, so that you may obey it. 15See, I have set before you today life and goodness, as well as death and disaster. 16For I am commanding you today to love the LORD your God, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments, statutes, and ordinances, so that you may live and increase, and the LORD your God may bless you in the land that you are entering to possess.…
Here God is saying the opposite of my sheep hear my voice. As in John 10:24. He tells them to choose life and good not death and evil. Talking to Israelites only, by Moses. Before Edom was assimilated we can clearly see Israel had a choice to hear Gods word or reject it.
Hearing (shema) is a command leading to obedience and good. Never does it mean Israel just obeys because it is righteous. The whole OT shows nothing but disobedience and a failure to hear. How then can we say Israel can only hear his voice when they were commanded and constantly rebuke for their lesser choices.
John 10 is not talking about Edomites but a clear division within the household of Israel. Some followed the Son of God the others man made traditions.
If God were to give a gospel that was irresistible to a nation then some would not have been cut off from the nation.
The forced implications of this verse has resulted in a failed hermenuetic.
Too be his sheep you must be a hearer and obey. That is all it is telling the disobedient Pharisees. I look forward to any thoughts and remain ever mindful of my willingness to learn and engage.
Study the scriptures, and you will see that there will be a ‘remnant’, a HANDFUL, that will accept and believe in Him when He comes back at Bozra/Petra to rescue them. Many of them will be killed off by their coming false Moschiach, as many in the rest of the world will be, too.
The error here, is assuming that the Biblical Flood was global. It was NOT. The Flood actually happened. But the assumption here is that Adam and Eve were the first parents of ALL hominids, everywhere. They were not! I’m going to quote a wide variety of people who think themselves Christians, to prove one point- The Bible NEVER preaches Universalism, but the EXACT OPPOSITE. It is the Record of ONE Race, ONE People, ONE Special Creation, ONE Body (of Christ)- alone!
Not only is it genetically impossible to think that we are all ‘of one blood’, (that verse is subject to so many critiques) it is little less than a blasphemy, to presume that Adamkind includes the Negro. Even black authors such as [African] author Solomon Jegede Enaboakpe, wrote a book entitled: “Black Man: Not Descendant of Adam.” You can buy it on Amazon.
This entire methodology is flawed, because it presumes that ‘all men’ means all HOMINIDS, in order to include everyone in the Flood! Adam is a divinely different, ontologically unique special creation, as the Genesis Account notes; all ‘holy seed’ [Ez 9:2] follows from that, as St. Peter corroborated! – and as the Hypostatic Union of the Godhead with Adamic Man- via the Incarnation, proves! The Flood is merely just one judgment against this ‘holy people’ when they transgressed the Law of God, as St. Paul says in all his Epistles.
As just one author pointed out, decades ago, the apostasy of American Evangelicalism is deep: “The Christian thinker,” Rushdoony writes, “has too often embraced as his own a non-Christian principle which he believed would be fruitful in terms of Christian thought… [embracing] alien brides hoping thereby that in the dark they held Rachel. But ‘in the morning, behold it was Leah.’ The issue of such a union has consistently been semi-alien seed which is in rebellion against its parentage and defiles it more thoroughly than its enemies can.”
“The tragedy that ensued,” he continues, “was that early Christian thought wedded itself to the Leah of Greek philosophy in the hopes of producing a Christian world-view… Christian thought has consistently gone astray, throughout most of its history, by seeking to answer the world in terms of the world’s own categories. It has assumed that it must marry Leah to speak either to Leah or Laban and has ended only in sad bondage to both.”- “By What Standard?”
What do I mean? When it all comes down to basics: politics, nation, race, holy Writings- it is always, ALL about family, and nothing else. Kinism, in other words. Even in your Church; especially in your Church.
Pastor Bertrand Comparet recorded many sermons on why Adam was the first ‘white’ man and the flood was local. See the 73 video collection on YouTube hosted by David James.
Christians For Truth
Just for clarification, our article on this subject does NOT necessarily endorse the idea of a worldwide flood–or that all peoples descend from Adam and Noah–but we understand that is the position of most mainstream “Judeo-Christian” 501c3 corporations masquerading as churches.
We certainly believe there is overwhelming evidence of the existence of Pre-Adamite peoples:
That said, we can agree with Hoffman’s contention that the Jews changed the biblical timeline in an attempt to de-legitimize the divinity of Christ. Take what’s valuable and leave the rest, as with all history.
Thank you for the clarification.
I had a quick skim through the first few pages, and if I could be so bold, I’d like to give my own opinion and simple clarification on the Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 accounts. If the clarification were accepted, then I suppose the entire matter could be put to rest.
In Genesis 2 in the new “stanza”, the “shrubs” and “plants” (as rendered by the NASB) which did not exist are not the ordinary ones created in Genesis 1. Genesis 2 contextualises them with “of the field”. Doing a simple word study, the word “field” indicates a man-made quality.
Not only does the word study affirm it, but Genesis 2:5 clarifies why these plants don’t exist: “for the Lord God had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground.” It was not there, because there was no man or rain to do it.
Genesis 2 is simply saying that there was no cultivated ground and thus Adam was placed in a garden of God’s own making. If there was no man to cultivate the ground, it may be a reasonable assumption there was no other man other than Adam.
But Adamic man was the first to engage in any significant form of domesticated farming. The appearance of farming and modern civilization, and recorded histroy, as we know it coincided. The other Pre-Adamic peoples appear to have been largely hunter-gatherers, no?
I don’t believe there is “man” or “people” outside of Adam and his progeny, and I personally believe the Scripture agrees.
Having said that, I would agree that civilization as it pertains to this earth along with its hallmarks began with Adam.
Could you then give us a Logical Explanation as to the Origin of the 4 Primary Races???
Something I have been asking contemporary Christianity for over 15 years now.
The simple answer, I believe, is there is no such thing as “race”. This is a modern “scientific” (read: “scientism”) construct which Adam has been duped into using.
There are men/Adamites, and then there are animals. I believe that the creation account, the law and the prophets all agree with this simple interpretation.
Luke………………..I appreciate this. Although my question to Johan was more of a Rhetorical Question or perhaps even a Sarcastic Question.
I am sick and tired of Contemporary Christians trying to guilt trip me into believing the black and yellow man all come from the loins of ONE homogeneous couple. As if the black and yellow man are in my family tree!
Ok……………so where does the black and yellow man come from? Surely they are not Adamites. Correct???
If you believe they are, please give me a logical explanation of how that is even possible.
westwins, I don’t think that’s what Johan is saying here. What he seems to be suggesting is not that all ‘races’ descend from Adam, but rather that Adam is the only being referred in the Bible to as Man. Anyone else, by logic, would not be a Man.
Exactly. But I should clarify, I believe the word “race” to be a psychological snare, because all of man’s reasoning subconsciously centers around this concept when trying to interpret Scripture.
“Race” is a classification of humans/homo sapiens by common characteristics according to Satanic anthropological/evolutionary theories.
Scripture doesn’t distinguish races of people or races of men, because to those writers the concept doesn’t exist. Rightly so, as Satan’s pet anthropology didn’t exist back then. This is a classic case of error in retrospective analysis.
Therefore, many racially minded scholars are looking for something which isn’t actually there and end up inventing myriad fanciful theologies, even trampling on the gospel of Christ to do so.
Too much Gobbledygook. Your original comment “Implies” all men come from Adam. One has to assume you are referring to blacks, asians and reds — in other words — all non-white men.
Let us be as simple and frank as we can —
Adamites are White. All other 2 legged BiPeds are not Adamites.
Sure, westwins, we all can agree on that, but I think Johan wanted to approach it from the perspective of the language found in Genesis, for those reading the Bible. There are no terms in the Bible such as “Adamic” and “non-Adamic”. If we are going to be able to defend our Adamic/Non-Adamic interpretation of Genesis, then we need to know which verses support that idea, and that’s what Johan has provided.
I appreciate you trying to clarify for Johan. But I would like to hear it from him.
I do not believe this is a “non-essential” to the Christian Faith. This is very much Central to who Jesus is — 2 Corinthians 11:3-4.
We, as those who have been enlightened with Truth, need to speak with clarity. I am still uncertain as to “what” Johan believes about the non-white races. I can’t imagine how he is explaining these issues to those who do not know our Lord, but think they do — Matthew 7:21.
Chesterton is right, we can all agree on that.
It’s worth noting though, that I haven’t put forth my point just to be a stickler…
Chesterton, you are correct, but didn’t state one rather important thing.
The Bible, as the written Word (and Christ, as the Incarnate Word) was written/incarnated for only ONE race- Adamkind. Therefore, while the Bible touches on ‘secular’ history, [ Pharaoh, Assyrians, Babylonians, Romans] the main purpose of the Books, is that “… everything that was written in the past was written to teach US, etc.” [ Rom. 15:4]
This changes everything, once you realize it. The Bible is the ‘owner’s manual’ for ADAMITES- first, last, and only. None of the other hominidities out there, are the LEGAL recipients of the Word, or the WORD of God- therefore, the question of their existence, IN GOD’S EYES, is neither important, nor DOES IT MATTER.
“If Christ was ‘made a curse’ for all of Adam’s race, then none are now ‘under condemnation.’” – But first you have to BE of Adam’s race, to get even that far! (quoting A.W. Pink, ‘Sovereignty of God’)
yep Fr John…why is this so hard for people to understand?
Its easy but they will postpone the inevitable. That being genetic variability. Johan might have green eyes and Westwin blue. Otiffy may have black curly and Luke Ginger hair and freackled skin. Variation is in our Adamic man. What if I were to say darker skin and lighter red skin? See the circumcision of the facts. Variation is in skin, hair and eye colour as well as physical and mental ability. I really want to discuss the possibility of obvious variation as it is clear in hair , eyes and ability. Somehow we hate skin variable stratas and the question is why?
Egyptologists have taken advantage of the liberal era to voice discovery and theory . Their motives are presumed honest. One is Erhard Zauner. His book describing what he thinks evidence reveals is, The Moses Tutanchamun Conspiracy. This is the compelling expose that, Israel is a part of Egyptian history and Egypt, the greatest civilization of the ancient world not a mere detail of Israel’s documentation of sin and revenge with the subtle promise alluded above in Jesaja:7,9, and 11. I have not read the book. But if true , there is much we do not know about ancient Egyptian history and the analogy with America undeniable. It is censored like all publications jews can not use to their glory.
Time is essential in the Babylonian Exile when weeks represent years . And with Danial the date of the birth of Jesus of Nazareth , who would find salvation also in Egypt must be precise for the prophecy to fulfill itself. The Heavenly Father is not restricted to time but man measures all things mundane and temporal with it. Although many today lament , “these are the times of Noah” and it would redeem the people of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Many years ago I helped a jew immigrant learn English , who fled Germany when the Third Reich removed them from their lucrative monopoly. His history was biblical . He claimed the jew built the pyramids and the second exodus of1946,47 he was in Israel . They defeated the Philistines with sticks and improvised weapons . The British had disarmed them.Everyone had deserted them.
I fear history is what one wants to believe. Credulity of churches has become fatal history of bind faith . What really is important is blessedly safe in the gospels, which both jew and gentile discreetly avoid.
A gentle reminder, Paul: Jews are NOT Israelites, and they were never in Egypt. They are mongrel Khazarisn imposters who stole the identity of true Israel so as to infiltrate, subvert and control and ultimately destroy their ancient blood enemies. Thus they took on the story of the Exodus as their own foundational myth, just as they did the entire Old Testament.
Read “The Invention Of The Jewish People” by Jewish Professor Shlomo Sand on this issue.
And as this article points out, they changed the Bible to suit their own anti-Christ, anti-Israelite agenda. And, no, the “Jews” did not build the Pyramids, or anything for that matter, as they are not builders but rather destroyers. The original Adamic Egyptians were indeed related to the Israelites, as they shared the same forefather Noah.
There is real, objective history, what really happened, and it will eventually be revealed to us upon the Resurrection, but until then it is our obligation to expose the lies and distortions, which isn’t that difficult because we know who the distorters are and what their agenda is. The Bible is the history of the Adamic race–it is indeed corroborated by archeology.
If the Israelites were not in Egypt, then Christ is a liar because He said they were (John 6:32). And John compares Christ to Moses in the desert (John 3:14). If the story of the exodus is a “myth”, then Christ is a liar, and if Christ is a liar, He isn’t God. If you doubt the Exodus, you doubt Christ.
Hendrick- the people called ‘the Jews’ are NOT related to the Israelite people of the O.T.
THIS is the greatest LIE pulled over the eyes of Whites, everywhere.
Here is a quote to help clarify:
“….that does not alter the fact that the large majority of surviving Jews in the world is of Eastern European—and thus perhaps mainly of Khazar—origin. If so, this would mean that their ancestors came not from the Jordan but from the Volga, not from Canaan but from the Caucasus, once believed to be the cradle of the Aryan race; and that genetically they are more closely related to the Hun, Uigur and Magyar tribes than to the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Should this turn out to be the case, then the term “anti-Semitism” would become void of meaning, based on a misapprehension shared by both the killers and their victims. The story of the Khazar Empire, as it slowly emerges from the past, begins to look like the most cruel hoax which history has ever perpetrated. (Arthur Koestler, The Thirteenth Tribe, p. 17).
“In order to have a JEWISH Holocaust you MUST have Jews….No Jews . . . no Jewish Holocaust….It is not rocket science to figure that out….The real Jews disappeared from history when their task of bringing the Messiah into the world was fulfilled.” – http://www.reformation.org/khazaria.html