[Originally published 9/27/20 — because of its popularity, we are republishing it with a few additions in response to some of the original comments we received.]
In this sermon, Sheldon Emry reveals the true identity of the Christian church today based on the fulfillment of prophecy and the direct words and acts of Paul whom Christ chose to help regather those Israelites who had lost their identity after the captivities and dispersion into the new body of Christ, the “ekklesia” or Christian church.
We should add the caveat that some non-Israelite peoples — from the original Genesis 10 nations — such as many of the Greeks and Romans — are the “wild olive branch” — or the “fullness of the nations” that would also be brought into the new covenant with Christ.
The Israelites are never referred to as “the nations” in Scripture — and the “nation of Israel” is mentioned only once in the apocryphal book of Esdras. And so the lost ten northern tribes of Israel to which Emry refers cannot be conflated as “the nations” — a term used exclusively for non-Israelite, original descendants of the Genesis 10 nations.
There can be no doubt, however, that prior to the Israelite migrations into Europe, there were earlier Adamic peoples already settled there — most notably the Japhethites. Note the prophecy of Genesis 9:27, “The Lord shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem.” In Europe, these two bloodlines were brought together and became indistinguishable from each other.
Besides Japhethites, we know that the early Phoenicians also settled much of the European coastlines. While some have claimed that the Phoenicians were Israelites, their homeland was the coastline of Canaan, settled and named after the original descendants of Noah’s grandson — which would make them Adamic, but not Israelite. Whether Israelite or not, the Phoenicians, like the Japhethites, most certainly were white Adamic peoples whose ancient fingerprints can be found everywhere from the coast of Spain — Tarshish — to Ireland — and all the way to the New World.
It should also be noted that Paul’s use of the word “adoption” below in Romans 9 comes from the Greek word “huiothesia” (Strong’s 5206), which means “son-placing” and does NOT mean the taking in of an unrelated son or daughter into one’s family as universalists are wont to claim today. In order to be “placed,” one must first be a “son” by ancestry.
And to quote Thayer’s Greek Lexicon, concerning the meaning of huiothesia:
In the New Testament it is used to denote that relationship which God was pleased to establish between himself and the Israelites in preference to all other nations.
Emry begins:
Some always question my insistence that the Bible has the answers for America because, they say, the Bible was written to Israel, and America is not Israel. I agree with their statement that the Bible was written to Israelites — however, I disagree with their argument that we are not Israel.
For over 20 years, I have taught that you Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Scandinavian, Germanic, and kindred peoples of Europe are descendant from the Israelites [ten northern tribes] who were dispersed out of ancient Palestine seven centuries before Christ came.
In the letter to the Romans, Paul refers to his “kinsmen according to the flesh” in verse 3 of Chapter 9, and then he says in verse 4, who are Israelites:
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises.
This verse seems to be a rather complete statement that the entire message of the Bible is directed to the Israelites. Let’s take each phrase and analyze it briefly:
“To whom pertaineth the adoption…”
This refers to the process by which men become the true sons of God. Men of different races and nations today are claiming they have been “born again” — that being “born again” they are the “spiritual” sons of God. But if you will read all of the references in the New Testament to this process of men becoming the sons of God, you will find they all refer, in some way, to Israelites — and to no other people.
Turn to Galatians 4 where verse 5 says in part that we might receive the adoption of sons. However, to understand who the “we” are in that phrase, we must remember that the writer, Paul, was an Israelite:
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Only Israelites — of all the world’s people — were ever under God’s law. In fact, only Israelites are promised redemption in the Bible.
In Ephesians, we come across the phrase “the adoption” in verse 5 of the first chapter:
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will.
Again, Paul uses the collective term “us” — obviously meaning “us Israelites.” And if you read the entire chapter, it is obvious that it is Israelites who were predestinated to be the child or “sons of God.” This [verse] — and scores of prophecies in the Old Testament — testify that it would be Israelites who would be the followers of God in the last age.
And yet for the last 1,900 years of the many millions who have claimed son-ship to Jesus Christ, the God of the Bible, 99% of them have been of the White race of Europe whom modern ministers claim are not Israelites.
Is the Bible in error?
Did God make a mistake?
Or are the ministers in error in not knowing these Europeans are descendants of ancient Israel?
Romans 9, verse 4 where the phrase “to whom pertaineth the adoption”:
Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises.
And the second phrase, “and the glory” also pertains to Israel. The words glory, glorify, glorified, and glorious are used several hundred times in the Bible, and scores of them make it plain that in Israel that God will be glorified. Isaiah 44:
23 Sing, O ye heavens; for the LORD hath done it: shout, ye lower parts of the earth: break forth into singing, ye mountains, O forest, and every tree therein: for the LORD hath redeemed Jacob, and glorified himself in Israel.
Isaiah 46:13
13 I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.
There Israel is called directly “the glory of God”. In Isaiah 48, God is rebuking for her wickedness, then He says this in verse 9:
9 For my name’s sake will I defer mine anger, and for my praise will I refrain for thee, that I cut thee not off.
Israel had sinned enough to deserve destruction, but God is saying for his own or God’s sake He will not destroy Israel.
10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction. 11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.
God says, in effect, “Israel, I could destroy you for your sin, but I will not do so because I have chosen to give my glory to you, and for my own namesake, for my reputation, as it were, I will not go back on my word, and I will not transfer my glory to another people.”
That promise that God would not forsake Israel for another people is why Paul would write seven centuries later in Romans 11:1
1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.
Paul knew — as we should — that whatever promises and covenant God had made with the Israelites would be kept — and whatever prophecies were made about them would most certainly come to pass. One of these prophecies was that God would not give His glory to any other people but Israel.
Here are a few more verses about that glory. Isaiah 49:3:
3 And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.
And in verse 6:
6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.
Israel would be the carriers of the good news of Jesus Christ — the salvation of the world to the ends of the earth. In what race — and in what people — has that been fulfilled?
Most ministers will admit that it has been this White Anglo-Saxon race which has done this, but they call them “Gentiles” and insist they are non-Israelites. I say no. That prophecy has been — and is being — fulfilled in Israelites — Anglo-Saxon Israel, the true race of Israel.
Isaiah 59:20
And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD. 21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed’s seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.
God is saying that Israelites would have God’s word then and forever.
If we believe God, we would be able to find Israel in the world today by looking for the people who have His word. And who are they? Any fool can find them — they stick out like a sore thumb among the nations. They are the White, Anglo-Saxon and kindred peoples of Europe, North America, South Africa, and Australia.
They alone — of all the races of the earth — print, distribute, profess, claim and hold on to the Bible, the word of God. You can travel from America to Europe — to the sub-continent of Asia — to the jungles of Africa — and to the isles of the sea — and wherever you come across any group of this race — and I am not including the Jews — wherever you find this race, you will find that if they practice any religion at all — or profess to believe in any God — it will always and forever be the religion of the Israelite Bible, and the God of the Bible — Jesus Christ.
Is that all coincidence? That we seem to be a people of one religion, the true religion of the Bible — Israelites — or is it another of the hundreds of proofs that we must really be the Israel people?
Isaiah 60, verse 1:
Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee. 2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.
When all of the world would lie in the darkness of false religion and idol worship, where would God glory be seen? Upon Israel. In spite of our own sin and ignorance — in spite of blindness in part of our own identity as Israel. The whole heathen world can see the light of God’s glory only upon our nations and the other nations occupied by the White European race, the race of Israel.
Oft-quoted Romans 8, verse 28:
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God…
And they usually stop there — however, the rest of that verse and the following verses identify the people for whom all things work together for good:
“…to them who are the called according to his purpose.”
Someone here is being identified as “the called”. Who are they? Read on. We will find they are Israelites.
29 For whom he did foreknow…
Whom did God foreknow? We have already seen it is Israelites.
…he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son…
So here is answered the question, “What people in this age were to become the Christians — the sons of God for whom all things would work out according to their good?”
The people God foreknew — the Israelites.
…that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Here it is plain that those who would become Christians would be brethren and would probably be brethren of the ancestry of Jesus Christ. In other words, the people of Israel which we are.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called…
The people who would be called to Christ would be those who were predestined to become the sons of God. We’ve seen from Ephesians that was the Israelites — and from Romans 9:4 we have already seen it was Israelites to whom pertaineth the adoption, or the adoption as sons, or the act of becoming Christians.
…and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
So here we’ve come around to that word again — glory or glorified — and always and forever it is used in relation to only to God and to the Israelites. In verse 33 of Romans 8 these “called ones” are called God’s “elect”. In Isaiah 45:4, God calls the descendants of Jacob “Israel mine elect”.
Ephesians, Chapter 3
20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us.
This is a certain reference to God Almighty, of course — and then follows the conclusion of that sentence:
21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
Where would the glory of God be manifested in all ages? Here it says in the church. And we’ve been reading it would be in Israel. Let’s see if we can reconcile those two words: church and Israel.
The word church here comes from the Greek word “ekklesia” — it means literally “the called ones”. That is exactly the term used for Israel in the Old Testament. In Isaiah 48, immediately following God’s statement that he would give his glory only to Israel, and would not give it to another, we read this:
12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called…
The disciples and writers of the New Testament knew that Israelites were the “called” ones, so it was just natural they would call these Israelite Christians “ekklesia” or “the called ones”.
Today, we use the English word “church” for an assembly of called ones — not knowing it is the exact equivalent of the Greek and Hebrew words by which the Bible designates Israel.
Acts 7, here Stephen — the first Christian martyr — is preaching the sermon that so angered the Jews that they stoned him to death. In speaking of Israel after they left Egypt, he calls that whole body of the Israel people the “ekklesia in the wilderness”. It is translated here “the church in the wilderness.” So Israel was the church of God at Sinai just as Israelites made up the New Testament church after Jesus — and Israelites constitute 99% of the professing church of God today.
Ministers who refer today to the body of believers as — quote — “the gentile church” — will tell their listeners they call it that because most Christians today are not Israelites. Nothing could be more further from the truth. No non-Israelitish church was ever prophecied in the Bible — nor has any such church come to pass. The church of today is exactly what it was prophecied to be — an Israelite church.
Another English word for church is “congregation.” In the Old Testament, Israel is called “the congregation” over 250 times, many times the phrase being “the congregation of the Lord.” Any investigation of Bible terms will prove that all of the words used in the Old and the New Testaments which mean “church” or “called ones” or which relate to the church pertain to Israelites.
The next phrase in Romans 9, in verse 4, says “and the covenants” — by which Paul meant the covenants of the Bible also pertain to Israel. This is not arguable — and is easily understood by any person with an acquaintance of our Bible.
See the film, “The Heirs of the Promise” — our documentary study of just what God promised and covenanted to Abraham and to Issac, then to Jacob and the Israel people. Our movie examines the Bible history of Israel, then the break up the Israel kingdom after David and Solomon, the Assyrian and Babylonia captivities, and the dispersion of the Israel people out of old Palestine several hundred years before Christ. Using archeology, history, and Bible prophecy the movie demonstrates to the audience the truth that vast numbers of Israelites migrated onto the continent of Europe in the centuries before Christ.
Because they had broken their covenant they had made with God on Mount Sinai, they lost the name of Israel, which means “ruling with God” — and are recorded in history by the names given to them by Persian, Greek and Roman historians.
We know them as:
“Saccae”
“Danaans”
“Massagetae”
“Samarians”
“Cimmerians”
“Celts”
“Scythians”
“Goths”
“Vandals”
“Germans”
“Saxons”
…and a dozen other names of European history.
Those of us who have studied the “disappearance” of Israel at the same time and in the same place where this Caucasian race suddenly appeared at the same time now know this people were Israelites.
All the old conditional covenants on Mount Sinai were broken by Israel, but the unconditional covenants that God made with Abraham can never be broken. And it is because of those covenants that God has fulfilled in our people those promises of great increase in numbers, great blessings, and that He would be our God, and we would be His people.
I have come across many on facebook that spread the black Hebrew Israelite idea, including someone on my friend’s list. I directed her to a article on your website and she probably did not read the website article, just doubled down on more lies regarding the falsehood of black Hebrew Israelites. Deep down I know what is true. As for my page, the only follower is myself so far. I update the page as i find more articles, info and videos, many of which I download. By the way, I believe in being true to faith. If there are any people who comment here and who are on facebook, check out the page “Christians United For Truth” and “True Israelite Tribes”.
Is now doubling down on promoting the black hebrew israelite falsehood travesty, but does not want to listen to me. If she responds, it’s with more falsehood, also saying ark of covenant belongs to blacks. I said to her King David is the english for dafydd he played a harp. I posted pic of King David statue and a welsh harp player showing how similar the harps are and that it’s an ancient celtic national instrument.
I post enough articles on the true Israelites on my timeline, here is the video she posts titled “black hebrew israelites confirmed”, the video is blocked in uk, also the cowards have turned off comments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLMpFVRboBM&t=2s
the person seems to have bitchute channel peddling the black hebrew israelite lie , she posts articles against chabad lubavitch but promotes jewish lies about the israelites also she posts content from grayzone who push the saudis did 911 narrative https://www.bitchute.com/video/djlqSEgzAh8t/?fbclid=IwAR384JhEiY8e3QrHhKcAU1fhOuD24zLFBoSr9qTsm4WuE4DzggIOpjaY1yk i think the facebook profile and bitchute channel are the same person similar profile pic , i explained how did the king david harp become a welsh celtic national instrument and that jacobs pillow aka stone of destiny made it from genesis 10 nations to briton which also went by the name albion , i found plenty of articles bits and pieces the prove israelites were white not the walter mitty fiction that is black hebrew israelites
Paul ……
Include a link to your facebook page. A “search” does not bring it up.
Wow…..I just did a search on Facebook for your page and ONLY “Christians United for Israel” came up. I’m scrolling down and I still can’t find your page!
Not surprised at all.
here it is again the page is called , Christians United For Truth and True Israelite Tribes here is the link https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100085940516678
here is a link to a post
let me know if you find it have any issues , the page cover pic king david with celtic harp and the profile is stainglass window featuring king david , king david in welsh is Brenin Dafydd
West if you are on facebook i can send invite to my page i go by the same name as i do here my profile pic is stain glass window pic of king david brenin dafydd . I dont just share content from this website i denounce falsehood that is the black hebrew israelite lie by calling out certain groups pages out on their lies , here is an example
I am bringing more falsehood to your attention more lies from the black hebrew israelite abomination , by my own research i have disproved all their claims which is based on fiction no basis in fact these deceivers pushing the black israelite nonsense are no doubt have jewish backers is obvious isn’t it , there is a common theme of these deceivers they promote new age nonsense oh that winged statues were representation of sky gods or alien spaceships well says it all about such fraus doesn’t it they do not know truly what an israelite is . Jesus was white so were the israelites
Paul,
Thank you for the invite. I do not have a Facebook acct.
I did finally find your page. I just thought it very ironic that when you search for it on Facebook, it will not come up. Not surprising.
Good luck with the page. My God reach anyone on facebook who is truly Seeking Him(Truth) through your page.
Thank you glad you found it i hope other like minds find it , i guess for years i have been searching for that something searching for the truth . i used a back up facebook to try find my page using keywords Christians United For Truth and israelites . as i have had many twitter profiles i have had nice comments some say i should of been a Priest a religious leader they say i speak more sense than those in churches and would rather listen to me because i speak from the heart the soul of my emotions
Well, I got my first follower for the page and likes comments sharing of posts, so I hope more find it too
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I will quote Scriptures from time to time through my recollection and it may not be verbatim. No matter, it is the idea that truly counts.
Now we are in this world but not supposed to be a part of this world. Pretty profound wouldn’t you think. After all, if we White, Adamite, Hebrew, Israelites never had our parents teaching us, going to some sort of Christian Church, reading the Bible, going to a Christian leaning school, never saw an evangelist or preacher on TV or heard them on the radio, how could any of us be other than part of this world and all that is in it. For pain or pleasure, hope or disdain, seeing good and evil, rich and poor, peace and war, love and hate, justice and crime and……………….well, you get the idea. How do we get out of this world so as not to be a part of that earth thing we live in?. That question comes near the end here….
[Edited by CFT for length.]
Sorry, Vincent, your comment was way too long. No one will read it. Not only that, it doesn’t directly address the essay in any concrete and obvious way. It seems as if you attempted to use our article as an excuse to republish one of your own essays as a copy-and-paste “comment”. We don’t allow commenters to use CFT as an excuse to promote their own work, especially if they are new to CFT and have never commented before, nor are familiar with our work.
Thank you, Christians for Truth for such an enlightening article. I find that i read your website more and more, the lost israelite tribes where they ended up has interested me and you write wonderful insightful articles. One of my regrets was not getting into religion way back when i the interest was there.
Over the years i have become more of a believer based on my experiences spiritual experiences in dreams and reality there was a dream i had years back — i don’t remember many of my dreams, but there are those that stand out , i found myself in a land unfamiliar to me, it was like i was on a farm of sorts. I followed a stone wall and i was greeted by a man in robes had a beard carried a long wooden stick. He beckoned me to follow him going across fields along journey seeing a burning bush a top of mount sinai then leading to a church surrounded by angels they pointed to me then to themselves. I then made my way to a representation of heavens gates which opened to reveal a brilliant white light. This is what i can still remember of the dream.
My belief in angels is because one day a dark mist formed was getting close to me, As it got closer i could see a glow and the darkness fled went away. I dont know what your opinion on dark entities is. At first i did not think they were real until i saw them for myself.
Another experience i did not see the angel, but i could feel it. I was about to walk across the road, I felt something drag me back. Before I know it, a car sped in front of me. I turned around to thank whoever saved me but no one was there.
Another experience as i lay ill in bed I called out for help. I called for God, out of nowhere a person appeared, offered me words of comfort, put hand on my head, said, “Get better,” smiled at me, then walked off and vanished. I have had dreams of being in the clouds as it appears in the dream surrounded by what looks like angels. i don’t tell many people what i have experienced.
I tell Christians I know on social media that you must be spiritual and warrior to arm yourself with the knowledge of your enemies. The symbolism they use, the rules of their game, the way they corrupt, subvert. Be observant, weed out those that spread falsehood are not true to faith turn away from the pied piper that leads you to your doom.
My ancestors are ancient Irish from a noble clan and noble house of ancient briton. In the region where i live there is the place name Hebron. The Celts were very much into their music, poetry. They were not what history says of them, referring to an article on CFT: “The Falsification of british History.” King David played a harp. I looked up some pictures of statues of King David, he is with a harp that looks like a Celtic harp. Upon reading this article i find myself wanting to learn more.
Why does it keep getting repeated that Japheth settled Greece? There is no evidence of this.
Phoenicians were mostly European, and either Europeans have some significance in the Bible or the Bible was written by MENA, like Jews assert.
(MENA are inherently an ethnic mixture, making them a “mixed multitude” or “Ereb” by Biblical definition, so it makes no sense.)
Whether you like it or not, there is an inherent hierarchy between Shem, Japheth, Ham and Canaan, so even if you say they are all uniquely “Adamic” as opposed to being something else, you still have a racial hierarchy to bicker over. If they were descended from specific progenitors, and kept within their progenitor’s groups out of respect for God’s blessings/ curses, then they would develop into different-looking people over time. If it didn’t matter then there would be no problem with Canaanites mixing with Shemites other than cultural/ religious issues (which then must be separate from genetics).
The best thing any dissident could do is to try and attack and subvert Jewish identity, because they are essentially a set of inbred ethnic groups defined as being descended from a “Judean” Pharisee (Separatist) cult. You must also attack Kabbalah, in all it’s forms, you must subvert their ideas about souls vs corporeal beings and their most personal Gnostic views, but you can only do that if you understand it as they do.
They attack the idea of taxonomic Racial categories, because without that in the way, it is easier to sell the idea of the unified “human race” BS, which makes multiculturalism & miscegenation a smoother process. You can’t genocide something that doesn’t exist or that has been rendered down into a pathology & evil social construct AKA “Whiteness”. If you oppose them, you must attack what they use to manipulate others, and what motivates them to act in the way that they do. They try to make self-preservation of an entire species “irrational,” it ought to be an easier job for us to point out the irrationality of these cultists.
This is why it is so important to know your enemy, as well as yourself, because you can: not only anticipate how they will attempt to deceive or manipulate you, but prepare a counter-offensive that takes advantage of their weaknesses.
CFT writes —
“…..The Israelites are never referred to as “the nations” in Scripture — a term used exclusively for non-Israelite, original descendants of the Genesis 10 nations.”
In which I agree, but would need help understanding Acts 2:5 —
Acts 2:5 — “…And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Judeans*, devout men, from every nation under heaven.”
*How should we translate — Judahites, or Judeans? (I refuse to use “jew”)
If these men from “every nation under heaven” were of the Genesis 10 Nations ………….. why were they living in Jerusalem?
Seems odd to me that there would have been “many” non-Israelites (Adamics) living in Jerusalem in the First Century. Unless they were there working on behalf of Rome.
At one point in my learning, I would have translated verse 5 as — Judahite. But now I wonder if the word should be translated — Judean.
Thoughts?
westins, Acts 2:5 does pose some interesting translation issues. Anyone dwelling in Jerusalem would be a “Judean”, so translating it that way would seem redundant. It is our understanding that the word “ioudaioi” most often translated as “Jew” actually would be best understood as Israelites from the tribes of Judah, Levi, and Benjamin. Either Strong’s or Thayer’s mentions this point somewhere, and other biblical scholars have pointed out that the so-called “Jews” spoken of in the New Testament are collectively from those three tribes, as opposed to the ten northern tribes.
In other words “ioudaioi” is a collective noun used when speaking of all three of those tribes: Judah, Levi, and Benjamin.
Some translators, in their efforts to avoid using the term “Jew” create some very awkward and confusing verses when translating it as “Judeans” such as the verse “…for fear of the Jews” (John 7:13). This makes no sense when translated “…for fear of the Judeans…” What? People are afraid of those who live in Judea? That’s nonsensical. Only when you understand that “ioudaioi” refers to those three Israelite tribes does it make sense.
So the dilemma becomes what to call Israelites of those three tribes collectively not using “Jews”?
We would posit that there is no English equivalent to the Greek. Judah doesn’t work, because “ioudaioi” often includes more than Judah. And “Judean” doesn’t work for many reasons, and John 7:13 is but one example, and John 7:1 is another, “….the Judeans sought to kill Him.” No, not all Judeans sought to kill Christ, but that collective of Israelite fanatics certainly did.
Note how Paul says he’s a “Jew” or “Ioudaios” (Acts 21:39). But he’s not a Judean (he’s from Tarsus), nor is he from Judah. He’s a Benjamite. So “ioudaios” must include Benjamin.
Unfortunately, those mixed-multitude of people who call themselves “Jews” are not the “ioudaios” referred to in the Bible, yet the term “Jew” would be a perfectly acceptable translation of “ioudaios” if they hadn’t co-opted that term.
Basically, we need another term to describe those three Israelite tribes collectively, but we know of no other term for them. Perhaps this subject would be worthy of a separate essay that we should consider.
CFT,
Thanks for the input and sorry for my “edit”. You are welcome to correct the italics.
How should we then translate Acts 2:5?
“…And there were dwelling in Jerusalem — insert Noun — devout men, from every nation under heaven.”
“Judeans” would be too broad as you say — ‘judean’ could refer to anyone living in Judea at that time.
So then, who was Luke speaking of — Israelites and Gentiles? Or in this specific verse, Luke is referring specifically to Israelites. I figured Acts 2:5 was a fulfillment of Jeremiah 31 (Two Sticks).
Interesting discussion. 🙂
Thanks for your time.
westwins, as far as Acts 2:5 goes, the “devout men from every nation under heaven” must refer to Israelites from the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi dispersed among the Genesis ten nations who are now “dwelling in Jerusalem.” The “insert Noun” is translated from “ioudaios”, so it cannot refer to non-Israelites.
Works for me.
Compounding some confusion, the NIV version of Acts 2:11 states that this list of “devout men from every nation” includes visitors from Rome, both “Jews” and “converts to Judaism”. The KJV (oddly, in Acts 2:10) calls these people “strangers of Rome, Jews, and proselytes”. If these folk from Rome were tribesmen of Judah, Benjamin, and/or Levi, would they be written down as strangers?
Acts 2:14 has Peter address all of the people gathered, “Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell and Jerusalem”. However, Acts 2:22 addresses “Ye men of Israel”. Is Acts 2:22’s address synonymous with Acts 2:14’s? If it is not, then the implication would be that “Ye men of Israel” is a subset of the people gathered. That would open the possibility that not all of these Acts 2:5 “devout men” are Israelites.
RB, the NIV is taking a lot of license to translate “proselytes” as “converts to Judaism” in Acts 2:11. Judaism didn’t even exist at that point — and to call the faith of Israel “Judaism” is a historical anachronism in this context. NIV translators surely conflate Jews today with Jews of the NT.
In Acts 2:10, “strangers” of Rome is translated from “epidémeó” which literally means “repatriated”, to be returned to your native city after having left, so, yes, that could apply to “Jews” or Israelites from the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi.
Acts 2:14 literally translated would be “Men! Jews!” because to call them “Judeans” here and then saying that they dwell in Jerusalem would seem redundant. Again, the term here is “Men! Ioudaios!” which would refer to Israelites from those three tribes.
No, Acts 2:22 does not use “ioudaios”, but rather “Israelites” (Strongs 2475).
In Acts 2:5, perhaps the “devout men” could include people from the Genesis 10 nations, but more likely it refers back to these Israelites from those three tribes. Not sure if it’s a crucial distinction, unless you see one?
“No, not all Judeans sought to kill Christ, but that collective of Israelite fanatics certainly did.”
Christ himself singles out “the elders and chief priests and scribes” as those who seek to kill him (Matthew 16:21). In Matthew 20:18, Christ states that He shall be betrayed unto the “chief priests and [] scribes”. In Matthew 27:1, it is again “all the chief priests and elders” plotting to kill Christ. Matthew 27:20 tells us that the chief priests and elders persuaded the crowd to lynch Christ, and Acts 2 contains Peter cluing in the men of Jerusalem to this dire deed that they had been perniciously persuaded into committing.
I mention this as my understanding is that the “elders/chief priests/scribes” are what “Jew” is shorthand for when it is used to describe pernicious people in/of Judea plotting against Christ and Christians, since Christ made a point to list them out specifically. However, this article has reminded me that Matthew and Acts 2 tell us that these elders/chief priests/scribes can easily mobilize normal Jews and turn them into Christians, similar to Matthew 12:30’s “He that is not with me is against me” , and Paul seems to make mention of “normal” Jews, some who had ostensibly become Christians even, causing him great suffering. I do not know if in every case these “normal” Jews were incited against Paul by scheming e/cp/s.
This confuses me a bit, as it seems like there aren’t very many “good Jews” in the Bible, and it takes me back to the days when Churchianity was promoting “the woman in the red dress” scene from The Matrix as an explanation of this Biblical puzzle. Could Churchianity have gotten this reasonably right by accident?
RB ……….
“….This confuses me a bit, as it seems like there aren’t very many “good Jews” in the Bible, and it takes me back to the days when Churchianity was promoting “the woman in the red dress” scene from The Matrix as an explanation of this Biblical puzzle. Could Churchianity have gotten this reasonably right by accident?……”
Hey RB. Would you mind elaborating? I don’t know much about the Matrix. Elaborate on the “puzzle’.
When you say …… “there aren’t very many “good Jews in the Bible” …………………
Are you making a distinction between the usage of the word “jew” in contrast to words like “Apostle” or “Disciple” etc., etc.
In other words ………………… are you excluding the Apostles and followers of Christ from when the word “jew” is written in the Scriptures? As if the writers used that word specifically to differentiate between types of peoples.
Thanks for your time.
I don’t intend to speak for RB, but I think I understand what he’s saying. I’ve observed the same thing. Whenever the word “Jew” is used in the Bible, it is describing someone who is often acting in a sinful manner. This gives the impression that there are no “good Jews” in the Bible. But let’s face it, the Bible does give the impression that the Israelites are a profoundly sinful, disobedient, and stiff-necked people. And that’s why it’s so easy for pagan “white nationalists” like the Renegade Tribune crew to argue that the “Jews” are bad people going back thousands of years in “their own” sacred book which portrays them as a degenerate people. The Bible is about sin and redemption, and they ignore the redemption part.
Both God and Jesus hated white people. The Canaanites were a Greek, white race that formerly occupied the lands in and around present day Israel until God ordered the Jews to kill every last one of them. The Jews carry out that command to this very day by destroying Syrian cities with a lot of Caucasian blood.
16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. (Deuteronomy 20)
Jesus carried that same hatred in his heart. It is clearly evident in the story of the Canaanite woman. Jesus acquiesced to Canaanite Karen only because he bested by her. There is no story that showed Jesus had a change of heart about the Goyims prior to his death.
The Faith of a Canaanite Woman
21 Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”
23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”
24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.
26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”
27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”
28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.
The greatness of the white race is not due to Christianity, it is due to the Greeks and Romans. It is their knowledge of science, architecture, and philosophy is what made Europe so great. And there was a time when one could major solely in the “Classics” of Roman and Greek knowledge. Unfortunately, we have turned the direction of our education over to the Jews and Evangelicals.
Always remember that we, the white race, are the ancient enemies of the Jews. The Jews will follow through on God’s command to destroy us or enslave us.
Jesus “hated white people”.
That’s just patently absurd. All the Israelites were White, including Jesus, and so were the original Canaanites. The “Canaanite” woman is described as a “syro-phoenician” by Luke. The reason is simple, that Canaan is the land of the Phoenicians. Christ did not “hate” this woman at all. In fact, He praised her faith. Many Christians, like yourself, misunderstand why He called her a “dog”. This term is NOT derogatory. There is a derogatory word for “dog”, but it is not used here in the Greek. The word used has the connotation of a “little dog” or pet that one would treat kindly.
The OT command from God to kill all the Canaanites isn’t about blind hatred or racial animus. God knew that all those pagan tribes would lure the Israelites into sin and fall away from Him, worshiping their strange gods. He warned them that if they didn’t kill them all, they would forever be thorns and pricks, which turned out to be true. Of course, when God ordered the Israelites to kill all the people in the land of Canaan, He knew they would disobey Him and be led into sin, by violating the first and second commandments, by worshiping gods other than Himself. This was not racial animosity toward these people — it was animosity toward their pagan gods.
Here, here!
You mean “hear, hear”…
This is too long for me to analyze and might be totally irrelevant. However, any Biblical analysis without extensive discussion of covenants leaves something out that is fundamental to Christianity and/or Israel. I suggest reading both Paradise Restored and The Days of Vengeance by David Chilton – available on a free download at – a quick summary of which is quite simple.
The old covenant with Israel ended in 70 AD…….FOREVER – PERIOD! The New Testament Church is the New Israel!
The study of TDoV will take you lots of time, but we’ll worth it.
So this essay was too long for you to bother with, yet:
–you express an opinion about it anyway
–you made assumptions about it that are not true
–you make assertions about Scripture with no evidence
–you expect readers to believe you because you say they should
–you refer readers to a much longer essay and expect them to read it.
You are a hypocrite.
A sound message. His sheep hear His voice and the rest are blinded. There is no argument against truth.
Phillip, you left out the second part of that verse, John 10:27: “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.”
Many people think they “hear” the voice of Jesus, but He doesn’t know them. Matthew 7:21:
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.”
So there will be those who claim to “know” Christ, but He will disavow them, and they will be “weeping and gnashing their teeth.” They thought they had it made.
The last part of John 10:27 is where most “Christians” fail — they may “hear” His voice, but they don’t “follow” Him, they don’t do His will.
Matthew 15:8: “This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far away from me.”
This describes most Christians today, no? Luke 18:8 describes the sorry state of Christendom:
“When the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?”
Ephesians 2:11-22 should clear up your mistaken identity. One new man all inclusive of all believers in Joshua The Anointed Of God. Not just one nation or another, not male or female. Faith is what matters. Faith in GOD, because of what His son did for every single human on the planet. We didn’t replace israel we are Israel by our faith. And the KING OF ISREAL is our leader. How can you be confused if you can And did read the entire book studying the Greek and Hebrew text. Who beguiled you? The adversity and his people, the Jews? We are few, a small group of leftover, (as the world sees us) awaiting His soon return.
Sounds like you’re the one who has been beguiled, Rollo. Faith is what matters indeed, but only for the “generations of Adam” (Gen 5:1). You’re going to have to explain how it’s possible the “every single human on the planet” came from Adam, assuming you mean every upright biped is a “human”?
I this it is you that needs to explain where a human is not a son of Adam came from.
The normal explaintion
1 sons of Cain somehow hide on Noah’s are and not even God was aware.
2 the nephilim and or fallen angels are still breeding with the sons of men.
I’ve only heard of these two.
But no matter the case Messiah came for all men.
What’s strange is I came to this site because I do believe, believers are Jisrael ( not a miss spelling) because of faith and anyone human can by faith become a son of GOD. I did not come back to post anything. I still search for other that red the entire Bible with out the cut and paste preachings that leads to all kinds of evil. Most “Christian’s” seem to agree that the eastern European Invaders of Palistine are Jisrael,. I find it hard to believe so many believe this unless they don’t read much.
Rollo………..
What is your “theory” then?
A couple questions to ponder —
If we replaced all Icelanders from Iceland and placed 300,000 pure Blacks from the Congo — in how many years will we see White and yellow peoples emerge from the loins of a Homogenous Black Population???
Conversely …………. if we replaced all the blacks from the Congo and filled Congo with 300,000 White peoples — how long would it take to begin to see black and yellow peoples emerge from the loins of a Homogenous White Population?
What is your theory? I’d love to hear it.
I will be honest ……… I once believed as you — micro evolution or environmental evolution ……..
But I believed it because everyone around me believed it. I never really “thought” about it.
Is that what you believe? Micro-evolution?
I believed like you just a year ago. Every thing you see on tv, read in a news paper or taught in school is controlled by one group of people. The same people who Re-written our Bible. and tell us they are god’s chosen people….
I was a member of J.M grace to you, and P. Washer a devout Judeo Christian ! I took on the task to disprove those who think Anglo /saxons are Israel, but the evidence is overwhelming not just in the bible but in history as well.
We had started a coalition of channels on “Jewtube” to show people the truth of this. Most dont know that there was even a “purge” of a wave of Christian channels (All of whom were showing various evidence of the Identity of biblical Israel as the white Christian race) and some fantastic video presentations were taken down, including my own (Yet my didn’t hold a candle to the works of the likes of Army of Light, Bellfire44, or Rob Lee).
In fact, no one batted an eye when hundred of such channels were kicked from the platform….It wasn’t until mainstream conservatives were targeted, that people took notice of Jewish censorship.
Not one to be dissuaded (and knowing the need to shake our people awake before they find themselves too far gone on the wrong side of things simply because our so-called “Pastors and preachers” of the modern church are more often then not little more then used car salesmen trying to fill their pockets rather then fill our people with wisdom), I started circulating a write up I did on my own studies. It was originally written to debunk the cult that call themselves the “Black Hebrew Israelites” so it compares Jews, Blacks, and white Christian to each identifying prophecy concerning the bride of Christ, Israel.
PLZ feel free to share, repost, or use as notes when explaining the truth to our people. Not Just the good people on this website, but that is meant for ALL our people…
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First time ever commenting:
People need to understand, that Israel is not a place, Israel is a people. The chosen people of Yahweh God. (Not Jews) Matthew 2:6 “And you Bethlehem, land of Iouda, by no means are you least among the leaders of Iouda, for there shall come out of you a leader, who shall shepherd My people Israel.” (Greek translated version)
Matthew 2:6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel. KJV
Dear all,
Here I am reading the comments and thinking to myself that a whole lot of universalist views could easily be solved by, firstly, praying for clarity and guidance; secondly, reading and understanding the historical context of what the Word is saying, and to whom it was saying it to, and to whom it is saying it to to-day, and how that relates to today. That is not to sound high and mighty or condescending. I say it humbily.
I grew up an atheist. I opened the Bible to see what the fuss was all about. As I read I could see as plain as day that this collection of books spoke to me, an average Caucasian man. God Himself was talking to me about my people, no one else, just those descended from Adam and Eve. Different names were used as history rolled along and the history of the Bible played out, as Mr. Emry says, and I studied and read like fury, and as I read I thought that I must be bonkers as all the churches I saw around me were universalist… but I knew I was right: That God was real, He was calling me, and that the only people He made here on earth are my people -Adamites… just like so many other true Caucasian Christian brothers and sisters are awakening to the same realization: we Caucasians are Israel… we have a new name: Christians. The promises that God gave to Jacob are for us!
Please, I implore all universalists posting here- the Lord brought you here for a reason! Wake up!
Thanks Mr Emry and CFT. God bless us Christians!
Right, on the other hand, anyone can see that Jews are the greatest purveyors of universalism, which they have used to weaken and destroy White Christian nations.
Put aside Christian universalism for a moment. Just look at racial universalism, that all races are the same and equally talented and of equal potential. Jews push that idea everywhere. And the Jews were the ones who applied it to God because our religion, the religion of the Bible, excluded them. They convinced Christians that “God loves everyone” and used the Bible against us, the people who wrote it.
Jews were the one who invented the idea that we are all created in God’s image, but how can that be unless God has a thousand faces–like the God’s of the pagan world of the Jew? The Bible teaches that Adam, not anyone else, was created in God’s image, but the Jew very craftily substituted Adam for everyone.
Universalism is communism applied to the Bible–it is a self-serving Jewish Trojan Horse out of which springs an army of Jewish aparatchiks who convince us that we deserve to be destroyed and replaced because we are the last beacon of light left of earth who defied their egalitarian myth.
You are exactly right, Chesterton. I just wanted to focus on Christian universalism to those that post here with universal views with my comment, but racial universalism is equally a concern to me, fear not.
How can God have the face and characteristics of a white man, Australian aborigine, jew, pacific islander, negro, asian, etc all at the same time if we are created in His image? It just doesn’t make sense.
I just pray more kin have the scales fall off their eyes to see the jews for who the are, what they are, and to see the destruction they cause.
The reason I brought up racial universalism is that the Christian universalists who frequent this site I noticed don’t see the connection between secular Jewish anti-racist ideology steeped in Marxism and the exact same ideology that has been imposed on the Bible by “religious” Jews.
Judeo-Christians don’t realize that the universalist “Jesus” they worship is a Jewish construct, a Golem, just another race-denying Marxist “Jew on a stick” sent to subvert and destroy the true Israelite people.
These Christian universalists may reject real world Marxism on the one hand, and may even agree that the races clearly are not social and cultural equals–but at the same time will have a meltdown if you suggest that Christian dispensationalism is merely that same Marxism applied to the Bible.
Dispensationalism and Marxism are one and the same–both creations of a Jewish mindset. If you reject one, you must reject the other–otherwise you are double-minded, and all Jewish ideology creates double-mindedness. Universalism is double-minded because it is Jewish.
“…the Christian universalists who frequent this site I noticed don’t see the connection between secular Jewish anti-racist ideology steeped in Marxism and the exact same ideology that has been imposed on the Bible by “religious” Jews.
Judeo-Christians don’t realize that the universalist “Jesus” they worship is a Jewish construct, a Golem, just another race-denying Marxist “Jew on a stick” sent to subvert and destroy the true Israelite people.”
“Dispensationalism and Marxism are one and the same–both creations of a Jewish mindset. ”
BRAVO!
Spiritual matters are never understood by worldly eyes
I believe as of this day that the white race is the descendants of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob Israel, but who created these other races and what purpose do they have in the whole scheme of things. And what about all these other races that say they are Christians.I believe the new covenant was written to the twelve tribes. What does that have to do with these other races? Just a few of my concerns. Thanks Robert
Robert ……….
Have you looked into the Pre-adamite theory? Plenty of literature out there if you are interested.
It makes the most logical sense to me. As to the “Why” of it???? That is the million dollar question. Sadly, I don’t believe we will know the answer until we get to the other side.
You could start here — https://christiansfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Pre-Adamite-Man.pdf
I personally like —- “Not of one blood” by Charles Weisman — https://archive.org/details/not-of-one-blood-charles-weisman
A CFT article — https://christiansfortruth.com/pre-adamics-in-genesis-adam-was-not-the-first-man/
Let us know what you think.
This is exactly the same problem as the ‘True Black Hewbrew Israelites’. I am mixed and growing up between the two races is exhausting. IT’S NOT ABOUT RACE! Everyone wants to be the CHOSEN race. Read romans 9-11 we are not Israelites based on the skin color we are born with. We are Grafted into Israel based on our faith and obedience to YHWH. NO ONE, despite race, color, religion will have an automatic gold card to heaven. Those who keep the commandments of YHWH and have the testimony of Yahshua the messiah will be saved and only by this will you be a TRUE Israelite. Maybe being mixed and seeing both sides has given me a different perception but you all aren’t sick of everything being about race? It’s a plot from the devil to divide. The one true God has a people, the True Israelites, and they come in every race. READ YOUR BIBLE! I love all my brothers and sisters in Messiah, lets put race aside unite as God’s people.
Amen!! My Spirit identifies with this Truth !!
Deuteronomy 9:5
It is not because of your righteousness or uprightness of heart that you are going in to possess their land, but it is because of their wickedness that the LORD your God is driving out these nations before you, to keep the promise He swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Clearly it is not race but for righteousness that God established Israel.
Sure, Russ, cherry pick one verse out of context to “prove” it’s not about the race of the Israelites. The Bible was written by, for, and about Israelites (Amos 3:2), but it’s not about race because Deuteronomy 9:5 doesn’t mention race? How about Deuteronomy 23:2, “No bastard shall enter into the congregation of the Lord”. Look up “bastard” in Hebrew [“Mamzer”] –it’s about race. The Israelites forbid race mixing, but it’s not about race, right? Why was Rebecca distraught about Esau taking wives of strange flesh–and insisted that Jacob take wives of her own race?
” it is not race but for righteousness that God established Israel.” 1948 Israel?
Somehow, I sort of doubt that- as it has always been: It’s RACE AND Grace. Election and Predestination. God’s choice, Adamic Man’s response. And ONLY Adamic Man….
“The corona,” he said “is for the Goyim not for the people of Israel.”- Rabbi in Israel
And yet…. as rates of infection continue to drop among WHITE Nations,
“Earlier this week the Jewish State released a demographic study of Covid 19 case distribution within different segments of its population. The data revealed that while in the general population the rate of positive tests has not yet exceeded 10%, among the ultra-Orthodox the percentage of positive tests is no less than 26%. More than a quarter of Israel’s Orthodox Jews tested are ‘infected.’ ” – https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/light-unto-the-covid/
Just like with RBG, I keep hearing this song in my head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPIdRJlzERo
“Why do the nations rage
and the peoples plot in vain?
The kings of the earth take their stand
and the rulers gather together,
against the LORD
and against His Anointed One:
“Let us break Their chains
and cast away Their cords.”
The One enthroned in heaven laughs;
the Lord taunts them.
Then He rebukes them in His anger,
and terrifies them in His fury:
“I have installed My King on Zion,
upon My holy mountain.”
Christ is KING. The Jews are damned. Rejoice therefore, for their time is but short.
God loved only the Israelites (Amos 3:2), so that makes him a “racist”. He wanted them to stay racially pure (Deuteronomy 23:2), so he was a “racist”. If the God of the OT was a “racist,” and Christ was God incarnate, then Christ must also be a “racist”.
perfectly Holy ..Racism !
See Phineas : https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/phineas-priesthood
Thank you for the opportunity to offer feedback.
This article is error based on a number of issues. (1) The author completely dismisses the Old Testament history of Israel in 2 Kings 17 (and 25) for one of his own fabrication; (2) the author then cuts in half Paul’s writings in Romans 9, not including the importantly contextual statements of Romans 9:6-8; (3) The author fails to address a (great) number of statements in Scripture as to the nature of the Gospel call; and (4) the author has a great deal of historical inaccuracies.
Brian, you make many general statements with no proof to support your objections, and cite verses as if they are self-explanatory–but they are not.
For example, Romans 9:6, “Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel.” You may think the meaning of this somehow refutes Emry’s thesis, but it does not. As Christ himself pointed out, there were many in Judea who claimed to be true Israelites but were not–that’s the meaning of this verse. One could be an Israelite by birth, but not Israelite by spirit, such as the Pharisees.
We strongly suggest you read the three-part series, “The Error Of Christian Dispensationalists” and ALL the comments to all three articles before you try to “disprove” this article on Israel and the church. Most all of your objections will be addressed here:
https://christiansfortruth.com/the-error-of-christian-dispensationalists-did-israel-reject-jesus/
what you have said christians united for truth and your explanations is what a facebook friend explained to me too regarding the Pharisees , its like saying if a black person learns welsh language they are welsh no thats wrong welsh people are a race of people
Ignore those who hate on Paul. He is an Apostle, fully the equal to Sts. Peter, John, etc.
Also, ignore the aberrant teachings of the CI folk, when they start to disparage the Church.
Since the Schism, Satan has been trying to divide Christ’s people. Look to that division, and realize that it is the Devil’s work, when you see it. We should work TOGETHER, and learn from one another.
Wm. Finck over at christogenea has some clarifications of Emry, and Comparet that need to be addressed. But his hatred for the church catholic, his denial of baptism, etc. are things he should repent for. But the substance of this article is correct. The Church IS Israel, now. And has been for 20 centuries.
Jews were trying to divide Christians long before the Reformation. The ante-Nicene fathers were already writing about “Judaizers” in the first century after the death of Christ. The Catholic Church allowed racial Jews into the faith and church hierarchy–and at the same time actively subverted the “purity of blood” doctrine of Old Christians (Israelite) in Spain. This racial issue should have been the reason for the Reformation, but it wasn’t, of course, and the new Protestants simply repeated this error–and perhaps exacerbated it by idolizing the Edomite Jews in ways that even the Jew-infiltrated Church had never done.
That said, both the Catholics and Protestants are equally guilty, neither better than the other–both are misleading their flocks–and it’s difficult for real Christians to have common cause with either of these groups when neither of them will even identify the enemy of all men — the Jews.
Most of what you said, I agree with. But that doesn’t mean that there does not exist a valid Church- witness the same thing happened throughout Israel’s reign, from David down to the Ezra/Nehemiah days. Yes, the inclusion of the Edomites as ‘Israelites’ under John Hyrcanus (Last valid King of Israel) led to the same sons of Edom becoming both the Pharisees and Herodians… but Christ came to rescue ‘his own’ [Matt. 1:21] and even said, ‘Do as they say, but not as they do.’ So, we can’t jettison the baby with bathwater…
P.S. I am not a RCC cleric
I would never dispute that there are indeed true members of the body of Christ within the Catholic and Protestant congregations–the truth, after all, was written upon their hearts and is in their very DNA as a gift of God. They live as true Christians despite their judeo indoctrination to the contrary, proving that false teachings will never triumph over the will of God as far as the ultimate fate of the Israelite people is concerned.
“…–the truth, after all, was written upon their hearts and is in their very DNA as a gift of God. They live as true Christians despite their judeo indoctrination to the contrary…”.
Correct. What it took me a long time to grasp, is that just as the apostate Israelites were still ‘Israelites’ (and here, I mean both the erring houses- of Jacob and the House of Israel, post-division) God did chastise them, because they STILL were His people- as opposed, say, to the Babylonians, whom He never gave a fig for- merely as ‘cracked pots’ of His wrath. Similarly, Whites are still the people of God, even if some of them are not Elect, or are merely reprobates. But their idolatry of the FALSE ISRAEL has brought down the Wrath of God on US (U.S.) just as Christ’s wrath was against the False ‘Israel’ of His day- and look what (((they))) did to HIM!
Where We White Adamics confuse things, is attempting to believe that ALL ‘hominids’ are God’s People- and are, therefore, in ‘need’ of Salvation. Yes, they ‘need’ Salvation, but are they the TRUE RECIPIENTS of that salvation? No- by no means. They are naught but PBS- Pearls Before Swine, in other words. The most astounding understanding that came to me, is that they [ the ‘Xenos’] are not viable recipients of God’s Electing Love- because they are not the Race of the Messiah!
The doctrine of the Incarnation is HUGE among [trad.] Catholic/ Orthodox/Anglican Christians- because, without it, we worship a fallible Deity, or as CS Lewis said, ‘a mere man.’ But more than that (and the corresponding reality of the literal communion of that DNA as well, via the Body and Blood – per Christ’s words- of the Eucharist) is the astounding realization that only those who ALREADY share Christ’s ADAMIC DNA, are the ‘worthy recipients’ of that Body- whether the consecrated Bread [Heb. 13:10] or the salvation of our Bodies and Souls, in the Sanctification of our mutually DNA-shared physical bodies!
Just as Israel, ALONE, was God’s ‘chosen people’ so, too, Whites are God’s ‘chosen people’- but that does not mean they are going to Heaven- ‘just cuz’! Just as there were apostate Israelites (even those who were racially pure) so, too, there are residents of Christendom (i.e., Europe/White lands) that have decided to follow the World, the Flesh, and the Devil- and the ‘greater responsibility’ of spurning that salvation lies all the harder on them, for it! Jesus Christ, St. Paul, St. Peter, St. John, etc. all attest that one MUST repent of their sins, be baptized, and join ‘the Church’ and there, ‘work out your salvation in fear and trembling.’ There are no willful backsliders in Heaven!
But the conflation and confusion of the Papists, was to take the older (Pagan) concept of ‘jurisdiction’ (rule over lands and nations and peoples, but not permitting the ‘Xenoi’ to be a part of the Body of Christ- to avoid ‘fornication’ and physical AND spiritual Adultery/Adulteration) and ‘universal sovereignty’ of the BC/AD Roman Empire, and apply it to the Church- as the vessel of salvation!!!
This is why the Schism of 1054 means so very much to the Orthodox- they saw this, five hundred years before the Reformation! And why the inversion of the Holy Trinity via the heresy of the filioque, still matters.
Thus, the blasphemy is compounded, in that the Pope long has long claimed ‘universal sovereignty’ over EVERY HOMINID on the planet, as VALID ‘potential’ recipients of Salvation’ – when YHWH, Christ, or even the Holy Spirit, NEVER ATTESTED TO IT! Why were the Apostles FORBIDDEN to go into the ‘greater Asia’ in the Book of Acts?! [Acts 16:6] And why have attempts to ‘convert the heathen’ resulted in so few changes? THEY ARE NOT OF THE BODY! And never will be….
Protestantism saw the ECONOMIC, and worldly CONQUEST mentality of Rome, and merely adopted/adapted it to their OWN models of worldly conquest, (Elizabethan/Jacobean England) but didn’t understand the Israel Elect message- or misunderstood it, to our hurt. Remember the initial 1600’s confrontations with the Amerindians, and how the English thought ‘here were the lost ten tribes’?!? All they had to do to find those Ten Tribes, was look in a mirror- but the Thomism, and the filioquist fallacies of Rome had already corrupted Protestantism, before they began. Luther was a D.D. of Rome, after all! While he saw much, he didn’t see the ‘forest for the trees’- and the Spanish and Portuguese even wrestled with the reality that non-Whites didn’t have souls- but capitulated to the false theology of Rome on this, early on. AND THERE’S THE PROBLEM.
And the Orthodox? Being isolated in Russia, or ruled by the Hordes of Islam in Greece, they only conflated [worldly] Empire and [godly] Kingdom after Peter the Apostate (So-called Great) introduced Protestant thought patterns into Russia! Before that, they could have cared less about the non-White, non-European hordes of pagans. As a scholar has written of this sorry perversion of the Gospel among the Russians- Catherine [the ’Great’] of Russia, during her reign (mid-1700’s) “…developed a new concept of the place of Russia in the world. ‘Russia,’ she wrote in the first line of his Instruction for government in 1767, ‘is a European power.’ ….’But this was directly contrary to the ordinary Orthodox Russian’s concept of his state. First of all, to him Russia was not a European power in the sense of just another of the Catholic-Protestant states of the West. She was the Third Rome, the successor of Byzantium. And her aim was not her own glory, or the glory of her citizens, but the glory of God and of Orthodoxy.’ [Catherine,] …’ under the cloak of traditionally Orthodox aspirations… pursued a typically West European agenda of Great Power politics and territorial expansion…’ ” [ p. 169]
https://www.academia.edu/25366806/THE_RISE_AND_FALL_OF_THE_RUSSIAN_AUTOCRACY?email_work_card=view-paper
So, God may be sending us the Jews, BLM, the Sodomites, ANTIFA, and all the rest of the denizens of HELL, to turn back His Faithful People, to have YHWH as Arche, and Christ as sole King, to rule as Ethnarch over His people, if we but remove the ungodly and the ugly Xenoi from our midst.
Deo Volente!
Fr. John+ wrote, “Remember the initial 1600’s confrontations with the Amerindians, and how the English thought ‘here were the lost ten tribes’?!?”
And where did the Protestant-Puritans get such a deluded notion? From a very popular book among Cromwellian English Puritans titled “The Hope Of Israel” (1652) written by a Marrano Portuguese Jew living in Amsterdam named Menasseh ben Israel.
He also claimed that England must re-admit the Jews overturning their expulsion order by Edward I in order to bring about the second coming of Christ.
So it shouldn’t surprise anyone that it was a Jew who published the first book in the English language that intentionally misled White people as to the true identity of the lost tribes of Israel:
https://library.leeds.ac.uk/special-collections/view/1202
To all the scoffers: if not the White race, what other race of people fulfill the description and prophecies related to the Israelites? Surely not the Jews. So who’s left? The Israelites could not be lost in the mist of time because Christ said he came to regather them, and if the Israelites no longer exist, then Christ is a liar and a failure.
Who, then, are the physical descendants or “seed” of the Israelites today?
Luke says Abraham’s “seed” will last forever, “As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.” (Luke 1:55)
We know that the “seed of the woman” is Israel, and that a remnant of that “seed” will be preserved in the end times, “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. ” (Rev 12:17)
The Vatican claims that the Catholic Church and all the Catholics worldwide are the New Israel and the “spiritual seed” of Abraham, which is preposterous. Not one single Judeo-Christian dispensational church can explain who the Israelite people are today except for “the Jews” who are clearly imposters. So who is left? Seriously, if not the White race, then who? Who is Israel?
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Paul has NO WITNESS as to who he says he is, so according to Jesus he’s a liar. John 5:31
In fact he murdered the young teacher Stephen and ADMITS he is a liar.
He says it’s OK to break the Mosaic laws.
A Sanhedrin plant telling a puddle of truth and floating lies on top.
We had Jesus for 42 months so why does Paul get to write half the New Testament? Who needs him? Non Israelites like Jews?
Was God so hard up for an apostle he needed a murderer and liar?
An Edomite claiming to be a Benjamite.
Wake Up!
That makes a lot of sense–it totally explains why Christ would convert Paul, knowing he was an Edomite, as you claim. Paul’s conversion demonstrated the power of Christ to renew the greatest of sinners, as Paul freely admitted he was.
IF you bothered to actually read the New Testament, you’ll find that Christ makes a point of demonstrating that it is the sinners who need him the most, not the righteous. If no men were sinners, there would be no need for Christ to die.
Mark 2:17 “On hearing this, Jesus said to them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”
Luke 5:32 “I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
1 Timothy 1:15 “Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners–of whom I am the worst.”
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Matthew 15:24 read it and weep. Or maybe Jesus changed his mind after the Jews murdered him.
He did not murder Stephen, The Script says he held the clothes of those who murdered Stephen. Nice try though. Paul was Chosen for his God Given ability to think things through, to help us along in our walk. Disregard him at your own peril Edwin.
Peter said Paul at times might be hard to understand.
Part of the problem has been translation.
Paul was no anti-nomian.
A must have translation for understanding our relationship to God’s law and the difference between Christ’s law and that which He fulfilled — see Malcolm Lavender’s research — http://www.lavendersnewtestament.com
Remember it was Paul who penned — “do not be deceived, God will not be mocked. What a man sows that which he will reap.”
Two great books if you can get your hands on them — “The Fallacy of the Sinning Christian” and “He Offered Himself; or Priestly Sacrificial Atonement.”
“I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises.” Romans 9:1-4 King James Version
“Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more”. Jeremiah 31:31-34 KJV
“Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a Jew or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.” (pg 3 of the 1980 Jewish Almanac).
“Jews began to call themselves Hebrews and Israelites in 1860″ — (Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol 10:23)
“Modern Jewry” descends primarily from Edomites who converted to Judaism in 130BC, NOT from the Biblical 12 Tribes of Israel.
Modern Jewry is largely descended from Edomites (Idumeans) who were forcibly converted to Judaism in 130BC, by Hasmonean Leader Johanan Hycarnus and absorbed into Judean society, recorded by Flavius Josephus in “Antiquities of the Jews” Book 13: Chapter 9, Section 1. http://www.perseus.tufts.ed…
The Greek geographer, philosopher, and historian Strabo further testifies to the colonisation of Judea by Edomite converts to Judaism in Geography [Bk 16.2.34]
“The Edomites were conquered by John Hycarnus who forcibly converted them to Judaism, and from then on they constituted a part of the Jewish people, Herod being one of their descendants.” See [The Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, New Revised Edition, 1966]
Prove your claim Paul was an Edomite?
Edwin, this series of podcasts addresses all your objections to Paul and much more:
https://christogenea.org/podcasts/paul-bashers
Thanks but they’re other websites out there agreeing with me.
WOW! 23 parts. He should make THAT into a book.
Chris, Edwin doesn’t need any witnesses that Paul is an Edomite except himself because Edwin is a spiritual Pharisee who enjoys being a hypocrite. Paul needs another witness to prove he’s an Israelite, but Edwin doesn’t need another witness to prove Paul’s an Edomite. Get it? Paul might ask Edwin, “Why do you persecute me, Edwin?”
Read John 5:31 first, then tell me Jesus said you need no witness.
Like the dishonest and deceptive Paul basher that you are, you have taken John 5:31 completely out of context. Why didn’t you mention the rest of it:
“There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true. 33Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth. 34But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.”
The other witness is clearly Christ in this context and has nothing to do with needing two witnesses to prove something true. Christ converted Paul, bore witness to Paul–which confirms John 5:31 to the letter, and confirms you’re too interested in pushing your deceptive agenda against Paul to be interested in what the scripture actually says and means in its rightful context.
By your standard of “proof”, Luke really isn’t a doctor because Paul is the only witness to that (Colossians 4:14). There are hundreds of such details in the NT that lack two witnesses….totally absurd….
Your history is centuries after all the Israelites were removed from the promise lands.
The few that returned from Babylon or escaped captured during the Assyrian campaigns, helped Jesus fulfill said prophecies.
Edwin, you are nothing but a troublemaker, and someone who uses Scripture for his own purposes, thus fulfilling the condemnation of St. Peter, when he said, ‘knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation.” II Pet. 1:20
You are a bloviating heretic, intent on creating dissension among the Body of Christ.
Peter and the other Apostles CONFIRMED St. Paul- his person, his Elect status as a Benjaminite, and his Apostleship! Take that away, and what are you left with? Maybe the Gospels, and little else? You’re worse than Jefferson the Deist.
Take your blasphemy and shove it.
“Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.” – Proverbs
And if you alone WERE correct, and your little sectarian group of three with you, then that means that Christ LIED, when he said that HE would be with us, Always! Your ‘BOBO’ (Blink on, Blink off’) theory of the Holy Spirit is utter folly. As is your impugning St. Paul.
Chris- do you have the full quote from the Tufts library?
“Modern Jewry is largely descended from Edomites (Idumeans) who were forcibly converted to Judaism in 130BC, by Hasmonean Leader Johanan Hycarnus and absorbed into Judean society, recorded by Flavius Josephus in “Antiquities of the Jews” Book 13: Chapter 9, Section 1. http://www.perseus.tufts.ed…”
It is a broken link.
Thanks,
“Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country, if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the country of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, 1 and of the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time therefore this befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews.”
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0146%3Abook%3D13%3Awhiston+chapter%3D9%3Awhiston+section%3D1
The Jews would love nothing better than for Christians to throw Paul under the bus like Edwin here and all the other ignorant Paul bashers. After all, the Jews HATE Paul because Paul persuasively explains the racial aspect of the covenant that is exclusive to the Israelites–along with its foretelling in the prophets Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel, among many others.
Peter was a witness to Paul and his wisdom.
Do you think according to Moses law you yourself haven’t been condemned to death? One who hates his brother is a murderer and one who lusts after a woman is an adulterer. Have you ever in your life lusted after a beast (even those bipedal ones)?
According to Peter, if we have no brotherly love, we are fruitless. I only see your crude talk of God, even the Father of salvation, having a “hard up”. I can scarce imagine talking about Him that way in love. Did any of our ancestors speak that way? If they by the Spirit did not, then how could the Spirit rest on you who do?
Shouldn’t we first produce the fruit of love, lest hypocrisy comes like a thief?
“According to Peter, if we have no brotherly love, we are fruitless.”
What are you trying to say, Johan? That we DON’T have love for our TRUE Brothers? I would beg to differ. We are trying to SAVE our brethren- and all of our Caucasian family, from the lies of the Jews, and the pit of Hell. St. Peter’s admonition was never said to/addressed to/purposed for the Negroes of Africa, the Mayans of Central America, nor the various dynasties of China- but ONLY to the ISRAELITES of the ‘Ecumene’- the only ‘inhabited world’ Christ and the Apostles knew of- i.e., the Roman Empire, of first Century AD Europe!
So, the ‘brotherly love’ you prate on about, means something completely different to True Christians, versus the universalist Talmuddied rationales of the Papists, the Impastor Prots, and the ecumenist Pseudo-dox… because GOD means something different to them, than He does to US!
A brother is someone from the same FAMILY- and ONLY that family. I may have friends in the world, but I will never be a true part of that friend’s family. Our DNA, our customs, our language (possibly) our religion, all mark us as ‘US’ vs. ‘Them.’ Similarly, I may know Blacks, Jews, Arabs, and Indians (Feather, not dot) in the polyglot USA or UK, but they will NEVER, EVER, EVER (like the Taylor Swift song) be ‘getting together’ with MY family of Heritage Americans. And if that family is GOD’s ‘forever family’… well, then: it is HE and HE alone, who determines the racial composition of that Family. And the entire witness of the Bible, and 20 Centuries of Christendom/Europe, is what we are talking about.
Or are you willing to acknowledge that the [sic] ‘Jews’ can be exclusionary, genetically apart, mono racial, and that WE CAN’T!?!? What a racist point of view! LOL
Fr. John+, it is not necessary to chastise Johan here–he is rightfully questioning Edwin’s false charges against Paul. Johan has been leaving constructive comments on this site long before you showed up, and he’s obviously well-versed in the true identity of Israel and Adamkind. Don’t assume the worst of everyone here–if you were able to read all of Johan’s valuable comments at CFT, you would be humbled:
https://christiansfortruth.com/the-error-of-christian-dispensationalists-did-israel-reject-jesus-part-3/
I agree