In this discussion Sheldon Emry reveals the true identity of the Christian church today based on the fulfillment of prophecy and the direct words and acts of Paul whom Christ chose to help regather those Israelites who had lost their identity after the captivites and dispersion into the new body of Christ, the “ekklesia” or Christian church.
It should be noted that Paul’s use of the word “adoption” below in Romans 9 comes from the Greek word “huiothesia” (Strong’s 5206), which means “son-placing” and does NOT mean the taking in of an unrelated son or daughter into one’s family as universalists are wont to claim today. In order to be “placed”, one must first be a “son”.
And to quote Thayer’s Greek Lexicon, concerning the meaning of huiothesia:
In the New Testament it is used to denote that relationship which God was pleased to establish between himself and the Israelites in preference to all other nations.
Emry begins:
Some always question my insistence that the Bible has the answers for America because, they say, the Bible was written to Israel, and America is not Israel. I agree with their statement that the Bible was written to Israelites, however, I disagree with their argument that we are not Israel.
For over 20 years, I have taught that you Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Scandinavian, Germanic, and kindred peoples of Europe are descendant from the Israelites who were dispersed out of ancient Palestine seven centuries before Christ came.
In the letter to the Romans, Paul refers to his “kinsmen according to the flesh” in verse 3 of Chapter 9, and then he says in verse 4, who are Israelites, to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenant, and the giving of the law and the service of the law, and the promises:
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises.
That verse seems to be a rather complete statement that the entire message of the Bible is directed to the Israelites. Let’s take each phrase and analyze it briefly:
“To whom pertaineth the adoption…”. This refers to the process by which men become the true sons of God. Men of different races and nations today are claiming they have been “born again” — that being “born again” they are the “spiritual” sons of God. But if you will read all of the references in the New Testament to this process of men becoming the sons of God, you will find they all refer, in some way, to Israelites and to no other people.
Turn to Galatians 4 where verse 5 says in part that we might receive the adoption of sons. However, to understand who the “we” are in that phrase, we must remember that the writer, Paul, was an Israelite:
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Only Israelites, of all the world’s people, were ever under God’s law. In fact, only Israelites are promised redemption in the Bible.
In Ephesians, we come across the phrase “the adoption” in verse 5 of the first chapter:
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will.
Again, Paul uses the collective term “us”, obviously meaning “us Israelites”. And if you read the entire chapter, it is obvious that it is Israelites who were predestinated to be the child or “sons of God”. This and scores of prophecies in the Old Testament testify that it would be Israelites who would be the followers of God in the last age.
And yet for the last 1,900 years of the many millions who have claimed son-ship to Jesus Christ, the God of the Bible, 99% of them have been of the White race of Europe whom modern ministers claim are not Israelites.
Is the Bible in error?
Did God make a mistake?
Or are the ministers in error in not knowing these Europeans are descendants of ancient Israel?
Romans 9, verse 4 where the phrase “to whom pertaineth the adoption”:
Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises.
And the second phrase, “and the glory” also pertains to Israel. The words glory, glorify, glorified, and glorious are used several hundred times in the Bible, and scores of them make it plain that in Israel that God will be glorified. Isaiah 44:
23 Sing, O ye heavens; for the LORD hath done it: shout, ye lower parts of the earth: break forth into singing, ye mountains, O forest, and every tree therein: for the LORD hath redeemed Jacob, and glorified himself in Israel.
Isaiah 46:13
13 I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.
There Israel is called directly “the glory of God”. In Isaiah 48, God is rebuking for her wickedness, then He says this in verse 9:
9 For my name’s sake will I defer mine anger, and for my praise will I refrain for thee, that I cut thee not off.
Israel had sinned enough to deserve destruction, but God is saying for his own or God’s sake He will not destroy Israel.
10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction. 11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.
God says, in effect, “Israel, I could destroy you for your sin, but I will not do so because I have chosen to give my glory to you, and for my own namesake, for my reputation, as it were, I will not go back on my word, and I will not transfer my glory to another people.”
That promise that God would not forsake Israel for another people is why Paul would write seven centuries later in Romans 11:1
1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.
Paul knew — as we should — that whatever promises and covenant God had made with the Israelites would be kept, and whatever prophecies were made about them would most certainly come to pass. One of these prophecies was that God would not give His glory to any other people but Israel.
Here are a few more verses about that glory. Isaiah 49:3:
3 And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.
And in verse 6:
6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.
Israel would be the carriers of the good news of Jesus Christ, the salvation of the world to the ends of the earth. In what race and in what people has that been fulfilled? Most ministers will admit that it has been this White Anglo-Saxon race which has done this, but they call them “Gentiles” and insist they are non-Israelites. I say no. That prophecy has been — and is being — fulfilled in Israelites, Anglo-Saxon Israel, the true race of Israel.
Isaiah 59:20
And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD. 21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed’s seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.
God is saying that Israelites would have God’s word then and forever. If we believe God, we would be able to find Israel in the world today by looking for the people who have His word. And who are they? Any fool can find them, they stick out like a sore thumb among the nations. They are the White, Anglo-Saxon and kindred peoples of Europe, North America, South Africa, and Australia.
They alone, of all the races of the earth, print, distribute, profess, claim and hold on to the Bible, the word of God. You can travel from America to Europe, to the sub-continent of Asia, to the jungles of Africa, and to the isles of the sea, and wherever you come across any group of this race — and I am not including the Jews — wherever you find this race, you will find that if they practice any religion at all, or profess to believe in any God, it will always and forever be the religion of the Israelite Bible, and the God of the Bible, Jesus Christ.
Is that all coincidence? That we seem to be a people of one religion, the true religion of the Bible — Israelites — or is it another of the hundreds of proofs that we must really be the Israel people?
Isaiah 60, verse 1:
Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee. 2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.
When all of the world would lie in the darkness of false religion and idol worship, where would God glory be seen? Upon Israel. In spite of our own sin and ignorance, in spite of blindness in part of our own identity as Israel. The whole heathen world can see the light of God’s glory only upon our nations and the other nations occupied by the White European race, the race of Israel.
Oft-quoted Romans 8, verse 28:
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God…
And they usually stop there — however, the rest of that verse and the following verses identify the people for whom all things work together for good:
“…to them who are the called according to his purpose.”
Someone here is being identified as “the called”. Who are they? Read on. We will find they are Israelites.
29 For whom he did foreknow…
Whom did God foreknow? We have already seen it is Israelites.
…he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son…
So here is answered the question, “What people in this age were to become the Christians, the sons of God for whom all things would work out according to their good?”
The people God foreknew, the Israelites.
…that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Here it is plain that those who would become Christians would be brethren and would probably be brethren of the ancestry of Jesus Christ. In other words, the people of Israel which we are.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called…
The people who would be called to Christ would be those who were predestined to become the sons of God. We’ve seen from Ephesians that was the Israelites, and from Romans 9:4 we already seen it was Israelites to whom pertaineth the adoption, or the adoption as sons, or the act of becoming Christians.
…and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
So here we’ve come around to that word again — glory or glorified — and always and forever it is used in relation to only to God and to the Israelites. In verse 33 of Romans 8 these “called ones” are called God’s “elect”. In Isaiah 45:4, God calls the descendants of Jacob “Israel mine elect”.
Ephesians, Chapter 3
20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us.
This is a certain reference to God Almighty, of course, and then follows the conclusion of that sentence:
21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
Where would the glory of God be manifested in all ages? Here it says in the church. And we’ve been reading it would be in Israel. Let’s see if we can reconcile those two words: church and Israel.
The word church here comes from the Greek word “ekklesia” — it means literally “the called ones”. That is exactly the term used for Israel in the Old Testament. In Isaiah 48, immediately following God’s statement that he would give his glory only to Israel, and would not give it to another, we read this:
12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called…
The disciples and writers of the New Testament knew that Israelites were the “called” ones, so it was just natural they would call these Israelite Christians “ekklesia” or “the called ones”. Today, we use the English word “church” for an assembly of called ones, not knowing it is the exact equivalent of the Greek and Hebrew words by which the Bible designates Israel.
Acts 7, here Stephen the first Christian martyr is preaching the sermon that so angered the Jews that they stoned him to death. In speaking of Israel after they left Egypt, he calls that whole body of the Israel people the “ekklesia in the wilderness”. It is translated here “the church in the wilderness.” So Israel was the church of God at Sinai just as Israelites made up the New Testament church after Jesus, and Israelites constitute 99% of the professing church of God today.
Ministers who refer today to the body of believers as — quote — “the gentile church” — will tell their listeners they call it that because most Christians today are not Israelites. Nothing could be more further from the truth. No non-Israelitish church was ever prophecied in the Bible, nor has any such church come to pass. The church of today is exactly what it was prophecied to be — an Israelite church.
Another English word for church is “congregation”. In the Old Testament, Israel is called “the congregation” over 250 times, many times the phrase being “the congregation of the Lord.” Any investigation of Bible terms will prove that all of the words used in the Old and the New Testaments which mean “church” or “called ones” or which relate to the church pertain to Israelites.
The next phrase in Romans 9, in verse 4 says “and the covenants” — by which Paul meant the covenants of the Bible also pertain to Israel. This is not arguable, and is easily understood by any person with an acquaintance of our Bible.
See the film, “The Heirs of the Promise”, our documentary study of just what God promised and covenanted to Abraham and to Issac, then to Jacob and the Israel people. Our movie examines the Bible history of Israel, then the break up the Israel kingdom after David and Solomon, the Assyrian and Babylonia captivities, and the dispersion of the Israel people out of old Palestine several hundred years before Christ. Using archeology, history, and Bible prophecy the movie demonstrates to the audience the truth that vast numbers of Israelites migrated onto the continent of Europe in the centuries before Christ.
Because they had broken their covenant they had made with God on Mount Sinai, they lost the name of Israel, which means “ruling with God”, and are recorded in history by the names given to them by Persian, Greek and Roman historians.
We know them as “Saccae” “Danaans” “Massagetae” “Samerians” “Cimmerians” “Celts” “Scythians” “Goths” “Vandals” “Germans” “Saxons” and a dozen other names of European history.
Those of us who have studied the “disappearance” of Israel at the same time and in the same place where this Caucasian race suddenly appeared at the same time now know this people were Israelites.
All the old conditional covenants on Mount Sinai were broken by Israel, but the unconditional covenants that God made with Abraham can never be broken. And it is because of those covenants that God has fulfilled in our people those promises of great increase in numbers, great blessings, and that He would be our God, and we would be His people.
We had started a coalition of channels on “Jewtube” to show people the truth of this. Most dont know that there was even a “purge” of a wave of Christian channels (All of whom were showing various evidence of the Identity of biblical Israel as the white Christian race) and some fantastic video presentations were taken down, including my own (Yet my didnt hold a candle to the works of the likes of Army of Light, Bellfire44, or Rob Lee). In fact, no one batted an eye when hundred of such channels were kicked from the platform….It wasnt until mainstream conservatives were targeted, that people took notice of Jewish censorship.
Not one to be dissuaded (and knowing the need to shake our people awake before they find themselves too far gone on the wrong side of things simply because our so-called “Pastors and preachers” of the modern church are more often then not little more then used car salesmen trying to fill thier pockets rather then fill our people with wisdom), I started circulating a write up I did on my own studies. It was originally written to debunk the cult that call themselves the “Black Hebrew Israelites” so it compares Jews, Blacks, and white Christian to each identifying prophecy concerning the bride of Christ, Israel.
PLZ feel free to share, repost, or use as notes when explaining the truth to our people. Not Just the good people on this website, but that is meant for ALL our people…
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Dear all,
Here I am reading the comments and thinking to myself that a whole lot of universalist views could easily be solved by, firstly, praying for clarity and guidance; secondly, reading and understanding the historical context of what the Word is saying, and to whom it was saying it to, and to whom it is saying it to to-day, and how that relates to today. That is not to sound high and mighty or condescending. I say it humbily.
I grew up an atheist. I opened the Bible to see what the fuss was all about. As I read I could see as plain as day that this collection of books spoke to me, an average Caucasian man. God Himself was talking to me about my people, no one else, just those descended from Adam and Eve. Different names were used as history rolled along and the history of the Bible played out, as Mr. Emry says, and I studied and read like fury, and as I read I thought that I must be bonkers as all the churches I saw around me were universalist… but I knew I was right: That God was real, He was calling me, and that the only people He made here on earth are my people -Adamites… just like so many other true Caucasian Christian brothers and sisters are awakening to the same realization: we Caucasians are Israel… we have a new name: Christians. The promises that God gave to Jacob are for us!
Please, I implore all universalists posting here- the Lord brought you here for a reason! Wake up!
Thanks Mr Emry and CFT. God bless us Christians!
Right, on the other hand, anyone can see that Jews are the greatest purveyors of universalism, which they have used to weaken and destroy White Christian nations.
Put aside Christian universalism for a moment. Just look at racial universalism, that all races are the same and equally talented and of equal potential. Jews push that idea everywhere. And the Jews were the ones who applied it to God because our religion, the religion of the Bible, excluded them. They convinced Christians that “God loves everyone” and used the Bible against us, the people who wrote it.
Jews were the one who invented the idea that we are all created in God’s image, but how can that be unless God has a thousand faces–like the God’s of the pagan world of the Jew? The Bible teaches that Adam, not anyone else, was created in God’s image, but the Jew very craftily substituted Adam for everyone.
Universalism is communism applied to the Bible–it is a self-serving Jewish Trojan Horse out of which springs an army of Jewish aparatchiks who convince us that we deserve to be destroyed and replaced because we are the last beacon of light left of earth who defied their egalitarian myth.
You are exactly right, Chesterton. I just wanted to focus on Christian universalism to those that post here with universal views with my comment, but racial universalism is equally a concern to me, fear not.
How can God have the face and characteristics of a white man, Australian aborigine, jew, pacific islander, negro, asian, etc all at the same time if we are created in His image? It just doesn’t make sense.
I just pray more kin have the scales fall off their eyes to see the jews for who the are, what they are, and to see the destruction they cause.
The reason I brought up racial universalism is that the Christian universalists who frequent this site I noticed don’t see the connection between secular Jewish anti-racist ideology steeped in Marxism and the exact same ideology that has been imposed on the Bible by “religious” Jews.
Judeo-Christians don’t realize that the universalist “Jesus” they worship is a Jewish construct, a Golem, just another race-denying Marxist “Jew on a stick” sent to subvert and destroy the true Israelite people.
These Christian universalists may reject real world Marxism on the one hand, and may even agree that the races clearly are not social and cultural equals–but at the same time will have a meltdown if you suggest that Christian dispensationalism is merely that same Marxism applied to the Bible.
Dispensationalism and Marxism are one and the same–both creations of a Jewish mindset. If you reject one, you must reject the other–otherwise you are double-minded, and all Jewish ideology creates double-mindedness. Universalism is double-minded because it is Jewish.
“…the Christian universalists who frequent this site I noticed don’t see the connection between secular Jewish anti-racist ideology steeped in Marxism and the exact same ideology that has been imposed on the Bible by “religious” Jews.
Judeo-Christians don’t realize that the universalist “Jesus” they worship is a Jewish construct, a Golem, just another race-denying Marxist “Jew on a stick” sent to subvert and destroy the true Israelite people.”
“Dispensationalism and Marxism are one and the same–both creations of a Jewish mindset. ”
BRAVO!
Deuteronomy 9:5
It is not because of your righteousness or uprightness of heart that you are going in to possess their land, but it is because of their wickedness that the LORD your God is driving out these nations before you, to keep the promise He swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Clearly it is not race but for righteousness that God established Israel.
Sure, Russ, cherry pick one verse out of context to “prove” it’s not about the race of the Israelites. The Bible was written by, for, and about Israelites (Amos 3:2), but it’s not about race because Deuteronomy 9:5 doesn’t mention race? How about Deuteronomy 23:2, “No bastard shall enter into the congregation of the Lord”. Look up “bastard” in Hebrew [“Mamzer”] –it’s about race. The Israelites forbid race mixing, but it’s not about race, right? Why was Rebecca distraught about Esau taking wives of strange flesh–and insisted that Jacob take wives of her own race?
” it is not race but for righteousness that God established Israel.” 1948 Israel?
Somehow, I sort of doubt that- as it has always been: It’s RACE AND Grace. Election and Predestination. God’s choice, Adamic Man’s response. And ONLY Adamic Man….
“The corona,” he said “is for the Goyim not for the people of Israel.”- Rabbi in Israel
And yet…. as rates of infection continue to drop among WHITE Nations,
“Earlier this week the Jewish State released a demographic study of Covid 19 case distribution within different segments of its population. The data revealed that while in the general population the rate of positive tests has not yet exceeded 10%, among the ultra-Orthodox the percentage of positive tests is no less than 26%. More than a quarter of Israel’s Orthodox Jews tested are ‘infected.’ ” – https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/light-unto-the-covid/
Just like with RBG, I keep hearing this song in my head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPIdRJlzERo
“Why do the nations rage
and the peoples plot in vain?
The kings of the earth take their stand
and the rulers gather together,
against the LORD
and against His Anointed One:
“Let us break Their chains
and cast away Their cords.”
The One enthroned in heaven laughs;
the Lord taunts them.
Then He rebukes them in His anger,
and terrifies them in His fury:
“I have installed My King on Zion,
upon My holy mountain.”
Christ is KING. The Jews are damned. Rejoice therefore, for their time is but short.
God loved only the Israelites (Amos 3:2), so that makes him a “racist”. He wanted them to stay racially pure (Deuteronomy 23:2), so he was a “racist”. If the God of the OT was a “racist,” and Christ was God incarnate, then Christ must also be a “racist”.
Thank you for the opportunity to offer feedback.
This article is error based on a number of issues. (1) The author completely dismisses the Old Testament history of Israel in 2 Kings 17 (and 25) for one of his own fabrication; (2) the author then cuts in half Paul’s writings in Romans 9, not including the importantly contextual statements of Romans 9:6-8; (3) The author fails to address a (great) number of statements in Scripture as to the nature of the Gospel call; and (4) the author has a great deal of historical inaccuracies.
Brian, you make many general statements with no proof to support your objections, and cite verses as if they are self-explanatory–but they are not.
For example, Romans 9:6, “Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel.” You may think the meaning of this somehow refutes Emry’s thesis, but it does not. As Christ himself pointed out, there were many in Judea who claimed to be Israelites but were not–that’s the meaning of this verse. Some of the Pharisees claimed Abraham as their father, but Christ rebuked them–by pointing out that they also had another father who was the devil (John 8:344). This is confirmed by Revelation 3:9-10.
We strongly suggest you read the three-part series, “The Error Of Christian Dispensationalists” and ALL the comments to all three articles before you try to “disprove” this article on Israel and the church. Most all of your objections will be addressed here:
https://christiansfortruth.com/the-error-of-christian-dispensationalists-did-israel-reject-jesus/
Ignore those who hate on Paul. He is an Apostle, fully the equal to Sts. Peter, John, etc.
Also, ignore the aberrant teachings of the CI folk, when they start to disparage the Church.
Since the Schism, Satan has been trying to divide Christ’s people. Look to that division, and realize that it is the Devil’s work, when you see it. We should work TOGETHER, and learn from one another.
Wm. Finck over at christogenea has some clarifications of Emry, and Comparet that need to be addressed. But his hatred for the church catholic, his denial of baptism, etc. are things he should repent for. But the substance of this article is correct. The Church IS Israel, now. And has been for 20 centuries.
Jews were trying to divide Christians long before the Reformation. The ante-Nicene fathers were already writing about “Judaizers” in the first century after the death of Christ. The Catholic Church allowed racial Jews into the faith and church hierarchy–and at the same time actively subverted the “purity of blood” doctrine of Old Christians (Israelite) in Spain. This racial issue should have been the reason for the Reformation, but it wasn’t, of course, and the new Protestants simply repeated this error–and perhaps exacerbated it by idolizing the Edomite Jews in ways that even the Jew-infiltrated Church had never done.
That said, both the Catholics and Protestants are equally guilty, neither better than the other–both are misleading their flocks–and it’s difficult for real Christians to have common cause with either of these groups when neither of them will even identify the enemy of all men — the Jews.
Most of what you said, I agree with. But that doesn’t mean that there does not exist a valid Church- witness the same thing happened throughout Israel’s reign, from David down to the Ezra/Nehemiah days. Yes, the inclusion of the Edomites as ‘Israelites’ under John Hyrcanus (Last valid King of Israel) led to the same sons of Edom becoming both the Pharisees and Herodians… but Christ came to rescue ‘his own’ [Matt. 1:21] and even said, ‘Do as they say, but not as they do.’ So, we can’t jettison the baby with bathwater…
P.S. I am not a RCC cleric
I would never dispute that there are indeed true members of the body of Christ within the Catholic and Protestant congregations–the truth, after all, was written upon their hearts and is in their very DNA as a gift of God. They live as true Christians despite their judeo indoctrination to the contrary, proving that false teachings will never triumph over the will of God as far as the ultimate fate of the Israelite people is concerned.
“…–the truth, after all, was written upon their hearts and is in their very DNA as a gift of God. They live as true Christians despite their judeo indoctrination to the contrary…”.
Correct. What it took me a long time to grasp, is that just as the apostate Israelites were still ‘Israelites’ (and here, I mean both the erring houses- of Jacob and the House of Israel, post-division) God did chastise them, because they STILL were His people- as opposed, say, to the Babylonians, whom He never gave a fig for- merely as ‘cracked pots’ of His wrath. Similarly, Whites are still the people of God, even if some of them are not Elect, or are merely reprobates. But their idolatry of the FALSE ISRAEL has brought down the Wrath of God on US (U.S.) just as Christ’s wrath was against the False ‘Israel’ of His day- and look what (((they))) did to HIM!
Where We White Adamics confuse things, is attempting to believe that ALL ‘hominids’ are God’s People- and are, therefore, in ‘need’ of Salvation. Yes, they ‘need’ Salvation, but are they the TRUE RECIPIENTS of that salvation? No- by no means. They are naught but PBS- Pearls Before Swine, in other words. The most astounding understanding that came to me, is that they [ the ‘Xenos’] are not viable recipients of God’s Electing Love- because they are not the Race of the Messiah!
The doctrine of the Incarnation is HUGE among [trad.] Catholic/ Orthodox/Anglican Christians- because, without it, we worship a fallible Deity, or as CS Lewis said, ‘a mere man.’ But more than that (and the corresponding reality of the literal communion of that DNA as well, via the Body and Blood – per Christ’s words- of the Eucharist) is the astounding realization that only those who ALREADY share Christ’s ADAMIC DNA, are the ‘worthy recipients’ of that Body- whether the consecrated Bread [Heb. 13:10] or the salvation of our Bodies and Souls, in the Sanctification of our mutually DNA-shared physical bodies!
Just as Israel, ALONE, was God’s ‘chosen people’ so, too, Whites are God’s ‘chosen people’- but that does not mean they are going to Heaven- ‘just cuz’! Just as there were apostate Israelites (even those who were racially pure) so, too, there are residents of Christendom (i.e., Europe/White lands) that have decided to follow the World, the Flesh, and the Devil- and the ‘greater responsibility’ of spurning that salvation lies all the harder on them, for it! Jesus Christ, St. Paul, St. Peter, St. John, etc. all attest that one MUST repent of their sins, be baptized, and join ‘the Church’ and there, ‘work out your salvation in fear and trembling.’ There are no willful backsliders in Heaven!
But the conflation and confusion of the Papists, was to take the older (Pagan) concept of ‘jurisdiction’ (rule over lands and nations and peoples, but not permitting the ‘Xenoi’ to be a part of the Body of Christ- to avoid ‘fornication’ and physical AND spiritual Adultery/Adulteration) and ‘universal sovereignty’ of the BC/AD Roman Empire, and apply it to the Church- as the vessel of salvation!!!
This is why the Schism of 1054 means so very much to the Orthodox- they saw this, five hundred years before the Reformation! And why the inversion of the Holy Trinity via the heresy of the filioque, still matters.
Thus, the blasphemy is compounded, in that the Pope long has long claimed ‘universal sovereignty’ over EVERY HOMINID on the planet, as VALID ‘potential’ recipients of Salvation’ – when YHWH, Christ, or even the Holy Spirit, NEVER ATTESTED TO IT! Why were the Apostles FORBIDDEN to go into the ‘greater Asia’ in the Book of Acts?! [Acts 16:6] And why have attempts to ‘convert the heathen’ resulted in so few changes? THEY ARE NOT OF THE BODY! And never will be….
Protestantism saw the ECONOMIC, and worldly CONQUEST mentality of Rome, and merely adopted/adapted it to their OWN models of worldly conquest, (Elizabethan/Jacobean England) but didn’t understand the Israel Elect message- or misunderstood it, to our hurt. Remember the initial 1600’s confrontations with the Amerindians, and how the English thought ‘here were the lost ten tribes’?!? All they had to do to find those Ten Tribes, was look in a mirror- but the Thomism, and the filioquist fallacies of Rome had already corrupted Protestantism, before they began. Luther was a D.D. of Rome, after all! While he saw much, he didn’t see the ‘forest for the trees’- and the Spanish and Portuguese even wrestled with the reality that non-Whites didn’t have souls- but capitulated to the false theology of Rome on this, early on. AND THERE’S THE PROBLEM.
And the Orthodox? Being isolated in Russia, or ruled by the Hordes of Islam in Greece, they only conflated [worldly] Empire and [godly] Kingdom after Peter the Apostate (So-called Great) introduced Protestant thought patterns into Russia! Before that, they could have cared less about the non-White, non-European hordes of pagans. As a scholar has written of this sorry perversion of the Gospel among the Russians- Catherine [the ’Great’] of Russia, during her reign (mid-1700’s) “…developed a new concept of the place of Russia in the world. ‘Russia,’ she wrote in the first line of his Instruction for government in 1767, ‘is a European power.’ ….’But this was directly contrary to the ordinary Orthodox Russian’s concept of his state. First of all, to him Russia was not a European power in the sense of just another of the Catholic-Protestant states of the West. She was the Third Rome, the successor of Byzantium. And her aim was not her own glory, or the glory of her citizens, but the glory of God and of Orthodoxy.’ [Catherine,] …’ under the cloak of traditionally Orthodox aspirations… pursued a typically West European agenda of Great Power politics and territorial expansion…’ ” [ p. 169]
https://www.academia.edu/25366806/THE_RISE_AND_FALL_OF_THE_RUSSIAN_AUTOCRACY?email_work_card=view-paper
So, God may be sending us the Jews, BLM, the Sodomites, ANTIFA, and all the rest of the denizens of HELL, to turn back His Faithful People, to have YHWH as Arche, and Christ as sole King, to rule as Ethnarch over His people, if we but remove the ungodly and the ugly Xenoi from our midst.
Deo Volente!
Fr. John+ wrote, “Remember the initial 1600’s confrontations with the Amerindians, and how the English thought ‘here were the lost ten tribes’?!?”
And where did the Protestant-Puritans get such a deluded notion? From a very popular book among Cromwellian English Puritans titled “The Hope Of Israel” (1652) written by a Marrano Portuguese Jew living in Amsterdam named Menasseh ben Israel.
He also claimed that England must re-admit the Jews overturning their expulsion order by Edward I in order to bring about the second coming of Christ.
So it shouldn’t surprise anyone that it was a Jew who published the first book in the English language that intentionally misled White people as to the true identity of the lost tribes of Israel:
https://library.leeds.ac.uk/special-collections/view/1202
To all the scoffers: if not the White race, what other race of people fulfill the description and prophecies related to the Israelites? Surely not the Jews. So who’s left? The Israelites could not be lost in the mist of time because Christ said he came to regather them, and if the Israelites no longer exist, then Christ is a liar and a failure.
Who, then, are the physical descendants or “seed” of the Israelites today?
Luke says Abraham’s “seed” will last forever, “As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.” (Luke 1:55)
We know that the “seed of the woman” is Israel, and that a remnant of that “seed” will be preserved in the end times, “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. ” (Rev 12:17)
The Vatican claims that the Catholic Church and all the Catholics worldwide are the New Israel and the “spiritual seed” of Abraham, which is preposterous. Not one single Judeo-Christian dispensational church can explain who the Israelite people are today except for “the Jews” who are clearly imposters. So who is left? Seriously, if not the White race, then who? Who is Israel?
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Paul has NO WITNESS as to who he says he is, so according to Jesus he’s a liar. John 5:31
In fact he murdered the young teacher Stephen and ADMITS he is a liar.
He says it’s OK to break the Mosaic laws.
A Sanhedrin plant telling a puddle of truth and floating lies on top.
We had Jesus for 42 months so why does Paul get to write half the New Testament? Who needs him? Non Israelites like Jews?
Was God so hard up for an apostle he needed a murderer and liar?
An Edomite claiming to be a Benjamite.
Wake Up!
That makes a lot of sense–it totally explains why Christ would convert Paul, knowing he was an Edomite, as you claim. Paul’s conversion demonstrated the power of Christ to renew the greatest of sinners, as Paul freely admitted he was.
IF you bothered to actually read the New Testament, you’ll find that Christ makes a point of demonstrating that it is the sinners who need him the most, not the righteous. If no men were sinners, there would be no need for Christ to die.
Mark 2:17 “On hearing this, Jesus said to them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”
Luke 5:32 “I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
1 Timothy 1:15 “Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners–of whom I am the worst.”
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Matthew 15:24 read it and weep. Or maybe Jesus changed his mind after the Edomite Jews murdered him.
Matthew 15:24 has NOTHING to do with sin and righteousness, or whether or not Paul was an Edomite. You are wasting everyone’s time here, Edwin. Your comments are at the level of trolling, and we will no longer post any more of your glib comments on this subject because you clearly lack the sincerity to discuss the subject of Paul with an open and honest heart.
He did not murder Stephen, The Script says he held the clothes of those who murdered Stephen. Nice try though. Paul was Chosen for his God Given ability to think things through, to help us along in our walk. Disregard him at your own peril Edwin.
Peter said Paul at times might be hard to understand.
Part of the problem has been translation.
Paul was no anti-nomian.
A must have translation for understanding our relationship to God’s law and the difference between Christ’s law and that which He fulfilled — see Malcolm Lavender’s research — http://www.lavendersnewtestament.com
Remember it was Paul who penned — “do not be deceived, God will not be mocked. What a man sows that which he will reap.”
Two great books if you can get your hands on them — “The Fallacy of the Sinning Christian” and “He Offered Himself; or Priestly Sacrificial Atonement.”
“I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises.” Romans 9:1-4 King James Version
“Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more”. Jeremiah 31:31-34 KJV
“Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a Jew or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.” (pg 3 of the 1980 Jewish Almanac).
“Jews began to call themselves Hebrews and Israelites in 1860″ — (Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol 10:23)
“Modern Jewry” descends primarily from Edomites who converted to Judaism in 130BC, NOT from the Biblical 12 Tribes of Israel.
Modern Jewry is largely descended from Edomites (Idumeans) who were forcibly converted to Judaism in 130BC, by Hasmonean Leader Johanan Hycarnus and absorbed into Judean society, recorded by Flavius Josephus in “Antiquities of the Jews” Book 13: Chapter 9, Section 1. http://www.perseus.tufts.ed…
The Greek geographer, philosopher, and historian Strabo further testifies to the colonisation of Judea by Edomite converts to Judaism in Geography [Bk 16.2.34]
“The Edomites were conquered by John Hycarnus who forcibly converted them to Judaism, and from then on they constituted a part of the Jewish people, Herod being one of their descendants.” See [The Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, New Revised Edition, 1966]
Prove your claim Paul was an Edomite?
Edwin, this series of podcasts addresses all your objections to Paul and much more:
https://christogenea.org/podcasts/paul-bashers
Thanks but they’re other websites out there agreeing with me.
WOW! 23 parts. He should make THAT into a book.
Chris, Edwin doesn’t need any witnesses that Paul is an Edomite except himself because Edwin is a spiritual Pharisee who enjoys being a hypocrite. Paul needs another witness to prove he’s an Israelite, but Edwin doesn’t need another witness to prove Paul’s an Edomite. Get it? Paul might ask Edwin, “Why do you persecute me, Edwin?”
Read John 5:31 first, then tell me Jesus said you need no witness.
Like the dishonest and deceptive Paul basher that you are, you have taken John 5:31 completely out of context. Why didn’t you mention the rest of it:
“There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true. 33Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth. 34But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.”
The other witness is clearly Christ in this context and has nothing to do with needing two witnesses to prove something true. Christ converted Paul, bore witness to Paul–which confirms John 5:31 to the letter, and confirms you’re too interested in pushing your deceptive agenda against Paul to be interested in what the scripture actually says and means in its rightful context.
By your standard of “proof”, Luke really isn’t a doctor because Paul is the only witness to that (Colossians 4:14). There are hundreds of such details in the NT that lack two witnesses….totally absurd….
Your history is centuries after all the Israelites were removed from the promise lands.
The few that returned from Babylon or escaped captured during the Assyrian campaigns, helped Jesus fulfill said prophecies.
Edwin, you are nothing but a troublemaker, and someone who uses Scripture for his own purposes, thus fulfilling the condemnation of St. Peter, when he said, ‘knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation.” II Pet. 1:20
You are a bloviating heretic, intent on creating dissension among the Body of Christ.
Peter and the other Apostles CONFIRMED St. Paul- his person, his Elect status as a Benjaminite, and his Apostleship! Take that away, and what are you left with? Maybe the Gospels, and little else? You’re worse than Jefferson the Deist.
Take your blasphemy and shove it.
“Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.” – Proverbs
And if you alone WERE correct, and your little sectarian group of three with you, then that means that Christ LIED, when he said that HE would be with us, Always! Your ‘BOBO’ (Blink on, Blink off’) theory of the Holy Spirit is utter folly. As is your impugning St. Paul.
Chris- do you have the full quote from the Tufts library?
“Modern Jewry is largely descended from Edomites (Idumeans) who were forcibly converted to Judaism in 130BC, by Hasmonean Leader Johanan Hycarnus and absorbed into Judean society, recorded by Flavius Josephus in “Antiquities of the Jews” Book 13: Chapter 9, Section 1. http://www.perseus.tufts.ed…”
It is a broken link.
Thanks,
The Jews would love nothing better than for Christians to throw Paul under the bus like Edwin here and all the other ignorant Paul bashers. After all, the Jews HATE Paul because Paul persuasively explains the racial aspect of the covenant that is exclusive to the Israelites–along with its foretelling in the prophets Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel, among many others.
Peter was a witness to Paul and his wisdom.
Do you think according to Moses law you yourself haven’t been condemned to death? One who hates his brother is a murderer and one who lusts after a woman is an adulterer. Have you ever in your life lusted after a beast (even those bipedal ones)?
According to Peter, if we have no brotherly love, we are fruitless. I only see your crude talk of God, even the Father of salvation, having a “hard up”. I can scarce imagine talking about Him that way in love. Did any of our ancestors speak that way? If they by the Spirit did not, then how could the Spirit rest on you who do?
Shouldn’t we first produce the fruit of love, lest hypocrisy comes like a thief?
“According to Peter, if we have no brotherly love, we are fruitless.”
What are you trying to say, Johan? That we DON’T have love for our TRUE Brothers? I would beg to differ. We are trying to SAVE our brethren- and all of our Caucasian family, from the lies of the Jews, and the pit of Hell. St. Peter’s admonition was never said to/addressed to/purposed for the Negroes of Africa, the Mayans of Central America, nor the various dynasties of China- but ONLY to the ISRAELITES of the ‘Ecumene’- the only ‘inhabited world’ Christ and the Apostles knew of- i.e., the Roman Empire, of first Century AD Europe!
So, the ‘brotherly love’ you prate on about, means something completely different to True Christians, versus the universalist Talmuddied rationales of the Papists, the Impastor Prots, and the ecumenist Pseudo-dox… because GOD means something different to them, than He does to US!
A brother is someone from the same FAMILY- and ONLY that family. I may have friends in the world, but I will never be a true part of that friend’s family. Our DNA, our customs, our language (possibly) our religion, all mark us as ‘US’ vs. ‘Them.’ Similarly, I may know Blacks, Jews, Arabs, and Indians (Feather, not dot) in the polyglot USA or UK, but they will NEVER, EVER, EVER (like the Taylor Swift song) be ‘getting together’ with MY family of Heritage Americans. And if that family is GOD’s ‘forever family’… well, then: it is HE and HE alone, who determines the racial composition of that Family. And the entire witness of the Bible, and 20 Centuries of Christendom/Europe, is what we are talking about.
Or are you willing to acknowledge that the [sic] ‘Jews’ can be exclusionary, genetically apart, mono racial, and that WE CAN’T!?!? What a racist point of view! LOL
Fr. John+, it is not necessary to chastise Johan here–he is rightfully questioning Edwin’s false charges against Paul. Johan has been leaving constructive comments on this site long before you showed up, and he’s obviously well-versed in the true identity of Israel and Adamkind. Don’t assume the worst of everyone here–if you were able to read all of Johan’s valuable comments at CFT, you would be humbled:
https://christiansfortruth.com/the-error-of-christian-dispensationalists-did-israel-reject-jesus-part-3/