Like many Jews who are under the false impression that they can “pass as White,” perennial B-list actress and convicted shoplifter Winona Ryder (nee Horowitz) lamented in a recent interview that she was once turned down for a role because she looked didn’t look White enough:
Jewish actress Winona Ryder revealed in an interview on Sunday that she was once overlooked for a movie role because she looked “too Jewish” for the part.
Ryder, 48, speaking to The Sunday Times newspaper, said, “There are times when people have said, ‘Wait, you’re Jewish? But you’re so pretty!’ There was a movie that I was up for a long time ago, it was a period piece, and the studio head, who was Jewish, said I looked ‘too Jewish’ to be in a blue-blooded family.”
Talking further about her Jewish background, the “Stranger Things” actress explained that she is “not religious, but I do identify.” She added, “It’s a hard thing for me to talk about because I had family who died in the camps, so I’ve always been fascinated with that time.”
She also talked about encountering antisemites in the film industry and retold one incident involving actor Mel Gibson, who is known for past antisemitic behavior. Ryder said the 64-year-old “Braveheart” star called her an “oven dodger,” a clear reference to the crematoria at Nazi concentration camps during World War II.
Ryder recalled: “We were at a crowded party with one of my good friends, and Mel Gibson was smoking a cigar, and we’re all talking and he said to my friend, who’s gay, ‘Oh wait, am I gonna get AIDS?’ And then something came up about Jews, and he said, ‘You’re not an oven dodger, are you?’”
The actress added that Gibson later tried to apologize to her.
Winona Ryder was famously miscast in one of the worst period pieces ever made in Hollywood history — Martin Scorsese’s disastrous 1993 adaptation of Edith Wharton’s novel “The Age Of Innocence”.
Imagine a Jewish Valley Girl pretending to be a W.A.S.P. blue-blooded debutante in turn-of-the-century New York.
Edith Wharton, like her contemporary novelist Henry James, wrote about New York City at a time when the social elite was Protestant and White — in their novels Jews, if they were mentioned at all, were pejoratively referred to as, say, “swarthy”, “interlopers”, “asiatics” or “social climbers”.
No matter how much money a Jew had, they lacked the bloodline, which their money couldn’t yet buy as it already had in Europe.
To paraphrase Raymond Chandler, in old New York elite circles, Jews were about as welcome as a tarantula on a wedding cake.
Ryder must have become incredibly self-deluded when she was nominated for an Oscar for her “acting” in “Age of Innocence” – thinking she really could pass herself off as being part of that White W.A.S.P. elite.
But then again that was always the dream of the Jews in Hollywood — thinking that they’ve successfully “integrated” or “assimilated” into White America.
So it clearly stuck in Ryder’s craw when a Jewish producer no less told her that she was “too Jewish” to pull off another role that required her to be “blue blooded,” a euphemism for truly White, not just “whitish” or “white-passing” which is the best that any Jew can hope for.
KM
I think this whole topic is sooo silly. Self-entitled Hollywood stars are going on about their plight and the acrobatics at play here. Oh Winona.. why not try this, “The producer wouldn’t consider me, because he thought I might be too pretty.” Oh, the humanity, and the trials and tribulations of a Hollywood star. Of course, you aren’t religious ‘but identify.’ Like why do I care. The reality is that I cannot tell your ethnicity. Now, what are your pronouns?
aepiorugh
Of course, you can distinguish them from whites, they themselves have Jew-dars, and they don’t identify as white in their hearts. Why would you call them white?
lucius vanini
WHAT utter stupidity. OBVIOUSLY Ryder is a WHITE woman. Are you blind? What non-White trait does she possess?!
You think because most Jews harbor hatred for the rest of us Caucasians they have to be non-Caucasian?!
Jews, particularly the Ashkenazim, meet EVERY anthropological criterion of Whiteness; and if you didn’t know that Ryder is Jewish you could believe she belongs any of dozens of European nationalities. West Eurasian Jews–RIGHTFULLY perceived as White now by a great majority of people–cluster with us not only in physical/phenotypical terms but genetically.
https://theeuropeanfamily.com/f/jews-racial-nature
That’s why White Jews from Kirk Douglas and Lauren Bacall to Scarlet Johansson and Paul Rudd have made fortunes playing non-Jewish White characters. No nose putty, wigs or face paint needed. Could Morgan Freeman or Denzel Washington do that?
Mollie
Having white-looking skin or features does NOT make you White. White people of European descent have a common genetic profile, share a haplogroup of R1N. Ashkenazi Jews have a completely different haplotyping, which means they cannot be of the same RACE. Period. That’s genetic science. Their DNA profiles are completely different from White Europeans. How do you explain that?
By your logic Turks or Lebanese or North Africa Berbers with white skin and white features are White. They are NOT. They are white-looking Arabs, very similar to Ashkenazi Jews. Just because people like you might “perceive” them as White does NOT make them racially White. Some people might mistake a light-skinned Black as White, but does that make them White? Of course not. By the way, all Ashkenazi Jews have Black African admixture, but not enough to make most of them look “negroid”.
All the Jewish actors you mentioned are clearly not White–they all have distinct Jewish features that White people do NOT have. And just because they can “pass” as White does not make them White. And Scarlet Johansson is mixed, which is why she looks the whitest of all of them–but she has also had plastic surgery to make her look more White than she really is.
Read this article on the subject–it will open your eyes:
https://christiansfortruth.com/controversial-study-reveals-jews-have-a-racial-caste-system-like-india-with-the-whitest-on-top/
lucius vanini
MOLLIE: It’s absurd to say that having white features and Caucasoid complexion, and being able to pass for white, are not equivalent to whiteness. People who think so illogically would have us believe that what walks like a duck, flies like a duck and looks like a duck, is LOL not a duck but say a buzzard.
And if people who pass for white did have wholly different genetic heritage, logic would compel us to conclude that whiteness doesn’t rigidly correspond to particular genetic heritage. In point of fact however there is GREAT genetic affinity between most Jews–white Jews, the vast bulk of Jewry–and Europeans and other Caucasians. For instance, major Ashkenazi Y-DNA haplogroups include J2, E1b1b and even R1b whose variant R-M269 is the overwhelmingly patrilineal type of Western Europe. These haplogroups are shared by hundreds of millions of non-Jewish Europeans. On the matrilineal side, the very large study Richards et al, 2013 found that 81% of Ashkenazi mtDNA is traceable to ancient indigenously European women. Atzmon et al, 2010 found that among the people most closely related to the Ashkenazim are the Italians and Greeks; Zoossman-Diskin, 2010 said there’s a dominant Southern European influence in Eastern European Jews.
The great treasury of genetics, Cavalli-Sforza et al, 1994 (THE HISTORY & GEOGRAPHY OF HUMAN GENES) states that “The shortest genetic distance, 0.0155, is between European and extra-European [non-European] Caucasoids” of West Asia, in which it includes the Near East and the Middle East. As geneticist Brenna Henn would say, there is a “Europeans/Near Easterners Ancestral Cluster.” Both the European Family and West Eurasian Jewry are members of the club.
That’s why most of us White Nationalists (except me and too few others) persevere in the pitiable folly of wondering whether this or that person they see is Jewish or lol white, not realizing that if the person really were of another race there’d be no need to wonder or go running to Wikipedia. I had no idea that Winona Ryder was Jewish until I heard her original name was Horowitz; and certainly I didn’t doubt her whiteness any more than I did upon learning she’s Jewish. Upon seeing Whoopi Goldberg for the first time, on the other hand, I knew immediately that she wasn’t white.
People whose good opinion we need think we’re half-baked when we say that obviously white people aren’t white.
The attribution of whiteness has often been denied to people who, though quite Caucasoid, don’t meet with approval from dominant white groups. In the Third Reich the Ashkenazim were regarded as arch-enemies of non-Jewish whites, and so the Reich categorized them as a different race (couldn’t include the bad guys among the good guys), though lol still having to put yellow stars on them to distinguish them from other Europeans. In the equally White-Supremacist Confederate States of America, on the other hand, Jews weren’t considered arch-enemies and there were prominent Jewish Confederates, e.g., Quartermaster-General Abraham Myers, Senator David Levy Yulee and (at different times) Confederate Secretary of War, Secretary of State and Attorney General Judah Benjamin. These men were not seen as of a different race; and in that CSA, which prohibited miscegenation, all three married Southern white Christians of high social and economic classes. At, present, of course, among a majority of White Nationalists Jews are considered non-white by definition; and clearly it’s because WNs see Jews as the bad guys–which for me is a wholly different issue.
For the majority of whites, among whom there’s been growing social acceptance of Jews, the latter are seen as white. There’s no barrier of valuation interfering with eyesight. Actually, though, society at large has for a long time IMPLICITLY accepted Jews’ whiteness inasmuch as intermarriage has never been considered interracial (only interFAITH); the children of such unions aren’t classed as mixed-race; 6 of 10 Jews in America now marry white non-Jews (almost always) and no one views the intermarriage in anything like the way people view white-black and white-East-Asian marriages–and rightly so. Well, even in the day when white Americans had a healthy hatred of miscegenation, no one gave a second thought to Irving Thalberg’s marriage with Norma Shearer, while Humphrey Bogart’s affair and marriage with Lauren Bacall was regarded as an ideal love.
You say Kirk Douglas (who looked SO MUCH like Dutchman Vincent van Gogh in LUST FOR LIFE) and the other Jews I mentioned don’t look white. Bullcrap. You say that because you already know they’re Jews. You can easily be made to look foolish by being challenged to pick the Jews out of a large number of photographic portraits. (I’ve seen that done before.) There are certainly ETHNIC divergences among members of the Caucasoid mega-cluster: a great many Jews exhibit meaningful difference from most Swedes–but the same may be said of a great many Greeks, who are classed as Whites, and rightly so.
In any case, I’d like you to tell me what telltale Jewish attribute any of those people I listed have.
The Jews’ phenotypical differences from large numbers of Europeans argues ETHNIC distance, not RACIAL distance. And is there not ethnic distance between the 56 or so European nationalities? The attribution of different RACE only makes sense in relation to people like blacks, East Asians, Australoids, Pacific Islanders, etc.
FYI, the Turks and Lebanese and Berbers are NOT Arabs ; only the Lebanese among these are even Semites. AND a very great number of them ARE Caucasians. They are part of the mega-cluster. It’s crazy to think that whiteness stops short at Gibraltar, the Bosporus and the Caucasus Mountains. It simply doesn’t! My late 20th Century Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines CAUCASIAN as “Of or relating to the white race as defined by law specifically as composed of persons of European, North African and southwestern Asian ancestry.” And that’s a FAR more enlightened view than that of many Americans, including an apparent majority of White Nationalists. IT, and not your view, is largely consistent with the science of anthropology.
https://theeuropeanfamily.com/f/caucasian-cousins-worldwide
P.S. You touched on a lot of specific points in your reply. I didn’t get to them all, but already my post is too long. Well, I think you want to hash this out; and so I’ll be back with the other answers, which I have at the ready. I’ve more to say beyond that too, especially about the “extra-European Caucasoids” as Cavalli-Sforza called them.
John 3
Lucius, you have no clue what “arab” actually means. It originally comes from Hebrew, “ereb”, which means to “grow dark”. All peoples in the Middle East today live upon the ruins of the ancient societies built by the original White people who once lived there — the nations described in Genesis 10 — who descended from Noah.
All people in the Middle East today, including the Jews, Lebanese and Iranians are “ereb” or “arab”, who are race mixed and became darker from the original White inhabitants who have since migrated elsewhere, notably to Europe.
Original, true Semites are unmixed White descendants from Noah’s son Shem. No Arab or Jew today is a legitimate Semite. Having some Semitic blood does not make one a Semite–it merely makes you a race mixed Arab, as they all are. If you want to see what a real Semite looks like, look at your average White European today. They are the true descendants of Shem.
Ari
What’s the difference between Ryder looking “too Jewish” and her not looking White enough? Same thing–according to the Jewish producer who turned her down for the role. As a Jew who casts a lot of Jews for many different roles, he’d know better than you who doesn’t look white enough–or too Jewish, right?
lucius vanini
ARI: I believe that the authors of the article has interpreted “too Jewish” as “not White enough,” taking the liberty of making her rejection as “too Jewish” corroborate what they think is a fact–namely that Jews aren’t white. DID anyone in Hollywood say that Ryder was “white enough”? I doubt it. And knowing Jews’ penchant for playing the “anti-Semitic” card I even wonder whether anyone said she looks too Jewish” to play this or that role.
WHICH Jewish physical attribute betrays Ryder’s Jewishness? The aquiline or hook-nose which she DOES NOT have? The protruding lower lip which she DOESN’T have? The frizzy hair, seen in some Jews? Her hair is usually STRAIGHT, and in the picture above, a bit wavy. Is she swarthy, as the authors doubtless think Wharton and James were right to portray Jews? Nope. Leucodermic.
Lol–I’m a European AND US-citizen, Right-wing in two continents–and I’ve been all over Europe (and lived in three countries) and I can attest that you can see a face like Ryder’s from Erin to the Urals (and especially in places like Ireland and Wales and Spain; and if you saw her walking on a European street and you didn’t know who she is, you wouldn’t suspect she is a Jewess….
If WASPs are, like so many English, Nordic in phenotype–blond, blue-eyed, etc., I can understand a director saying, “No, I don’t want Ryder; I want Pfeiffer or Basinger or Wright-Penn.” But the director might say the same of actresses from a GREAT many European lands, especially Southern European ones.
THE AGE OF INNOCENCE I account as a very fine film. I saw it before I knew Ryder is Jewish, and it NEVER occurred to me that she was miscast. For one thing, I knew that to be a WASP was NOT always to be a blond, blue-eyed Valkyrie. And it’s that knowledge which kept me from thinking the protagonist of the film, Daniel Day Lewis–who is also Jewish, I believe–was miscast. Now, if Wesley Snipes were given the part, I’d have walked out of the theater and demanded a refund.
Obie
Very few actors or actresses from Southern Europe, whether Italy or Spain, have ever been huge successes in Hollywood. Sorry to inform you that White northern Europeans, even those from Northern Italy, see those actors as too “ethnic” or “exotic”, a euphemism, a polite way of saying “not White”. As you may know, for many Northern White Italian families it was frowned upon to inter-marry with Southern Italians who had been touched with the tar brush, as it were.
Lucius Vanini
OBIE: Hmm, the German actresses I can think of who made some mark in Hollywood were Marlene Dietrich and to a much lesser degree Romy Schneider and Elke Sommer. Of the Swedes I can think of, there are Greta Garbo (min favoritt av alt), Ingrid Bergman, Anita Ekberg. Italy has had Sophia Loren, Anna Magnani, Gina Lollobrigida, Claudia Cardinale and Virna Lisi. Of these, Loren was the most Mediterranean-looking and arguably more accomplished than either Dietrich or Garbo inasmuch as she won an Academy Award for Best Actress; so did Magnani who also had a rather Mediterranean look–and both she and Loren had much more success than the Nordic-looking (blond, blue-eyed) Lisi. Oh and Loren is a real Southerner–Neapolitan, I believe, and the most famous Italian screen actress.
Among the Dutch, Norwegians, Danes and Finns, who has there been of great note? I’m not sure that your view is all that accurate….
Lol, when I said a director who wants to depict a Nordic WASP (again, not all WASPs are Nordic) wouldn’t want the brunette Ryder, I didn’t mean he would thus deem Ryder non-white, but ONLY non-Nordic. And he’d have done likewise with the brunettes Audrey Hepburn and Jean Simmons–both of whom were as non-Jewish and Northerly as Germans.
And lol you’ve told a Northern Italian (un cittadino dalle Firenze e Venezia) how Northern Italians perceive Southern Italians. Sorry to inform you lol that if Northerners look down on Southerners–and they frequently do–it’s not because they think them non-white but because they view them as a bit too earthy, too provincial and too commonly given to organized criminality (perhaps you know that all the Italian criminal organizations are rooted in the South–the Mafia in Sicily, the Camorra in Naples and the ‘Ndrangheta in Calabria). As for marriage between North and South, despite the Northern disdain that exists even in the Americas (opened up by my countryman Columbus and named after my townsman Amerigo Vespucci), Northerners marry Southerners very often in the two great lands of Italo-America–the USA and Argentina.
And as for Northern Europeans’ considering Mediterranean Europeans non-white, well, yes, ignorance is to be found everywhere.
Obie
You have serious problem with reading comprehension–you misconstrued my comment, and it’s not worth correcting your errors at this point. You have an agenda and you’re sticking to it.
Ottify
Lucius, reading your comments, I can plainly see you are propagandized by the jew to believe “whiteness” is the ‘product of your environment’, that ‘culture determines race’. Just think about how patently absurd that is.
“Whites” (TRUE Caucasians, Aryans, Saxons, Europeans, etc.) are the only PURE ‘race’ on the earth. How is that determined? By the FACT that all PURE Whites have ALL RECESSIVE GENES. That means that as soon as a white mixes with another person who even has ONE DROP of non-white blood in them, their children are now ARAB, and will remain ARAB forever. “Whiteness” is NOT a perception – shame on you! You seem too intelligent to fall for this racial propaganda that is completely unfounded in fact…
lucius vanini
OTTIFY: You don’t understand my position at all. All I’ll say is that though I’m a “race realist” in a sense, there are no races as traditionally conceived–no monolithically homogeneous islands of humanity, but CLUSTERS: groups of relatively approximating ethnicities, peoples much more closely related to certain other peoples than to the rest of the human species. No absolute, only relative homogeneity. One is not unrelated to ANY branch of humanity–including the negroid (or the chimpanzee for that matter, sharing as we do 95% of genetic nature) but we still have our FAMILY, in a wider ethnic/genetic sense.
If you’re interested at all, though I’m shameful, you can read my reply to OBIE to see why I won’t say more here vis-à-vis the subject.
Love, brother–may our beautiful and glorious kind prosper forever!
Chesterton
Lucius, you obviously believe in the completely false and unscientific theory of Evolution, which is promoted by the Jewish media and academia to demoralize White people and convince them that, as you falsely believe, there is no such thing as real races and that we are all related anyway so race mixing is not bad. This theory of “all races are related” is a Jewish lie that you’ve bought hook, line and sinker. Read about the logical and scientific absurdities of evolution at this amazing website:
http://www.tomatobubble.com/integrated_complexity_evolution.html
lucius vanini
CHESTERTON: No, race-mixing is the LAST thing that I’m about. If you looked at my website you’d see that. And I fear that once again I’ve confirmed my suspicion that if my posts are very long they don’t get read through. I mean, in my reply to Mollie are indications of where I stand vis-a-vis miscegenation, and where I stand is 20,000 leagues away from the dupes of Talmudic Europhobes….
As for our being or not being related to the other mega-clusters (races), you don’t think we belong to the same SPECIES as negroes do? For Pantheos’ sake, we and even the chimpanzee share 95% of genetic nature….
I, a believer in evolution–by which you mean MECHANISTIC evolution, whereby slime accidentally becomes a single-cell organism, and after countless other accidents and aimless factors becomes Leonardo da Vinci? LOL!!! Nope. There’s a better chance that a monkey jumping up and down on a word processor will compose the ILIAD or Shakespeare’s plays. BUT–a continuous development of creatures under the guidance of Cosmic Creative Mind? For me, the fossil record is the calling card of cosmic creative intelligence, which some people might call “God.” Argument from Design!
And now I’m serious–I must get back to trying to deal with this heightened peril that’s rather suddenly descended on us.
lucius vanini
OBIE: I wasn’t going to reply again. Actually, I had hesitated before posting here at all on the topic of Jews and race, because I felt that I might be fiddling while Rome burns. We Euro-Americans (I have US citizenship as well) are under threat from fanatical Europhobes and Marxists–domestic terrorists. The destruction started with stores and other buildings; it spread to monuments of our history; and now, with increasing talk of the need to kill whites (and as it’s now hate speech to say “White lives matter”), it seems likelier than not that the destruction will be extended from Caucasoid statues to Caucasoid persons.
I’m actively preparing for defense against such an onslaught, arming and networking, etc., and through my website reaching out to other Euros in an attempt to warn of the possibly imminent danger, to encourage them to arm and prepare.
BUT curiosity got the better of me. You said I have an agenda and I’m sticking to it. That’s certainly true as far as it goes; but I was wondering what you suppose my agenda to be….
Look: I’ll say here what I think my agenda is in posting as I have above, and give you the last word, if you want it.
MY agenda in asserting that whiteness doesn’t stop at Europe’s borders and includes other West Eurasians including the people we commonly call JEWS, is
1) not only to express what I honestly believe the evidence indicates, but my belief that we White Nationalists and European Patriots need to step up our intellectual game, to entertain more sophisticated conceptions of ethnicity/race, so as to become abler to win the good opinion of people we need on our side. Specifically where the Jews are concerned, I’ve been embarrassed when WNs have characterized a perfectly Caucasian Jew as non-white as onlookers looked at them with utter surprise followed by what seemed like contempt for their aptitudes….
2) Also, to prevent us shooting ourselves in the foot by amputating parts of our heritage and making White Race seem not so accomplished after all–indeed culturally dependent. For example, we have this writing and alphabet ultimately because of the Phoenicians–a West ASIAN and Semitic people. True, the Romans put this script basically into the form in which we use it; but they got their alphabet from the Etruscans, who got theirs from the Greeks, who got theirs from the original inventors, the Phoenicians. So if the latter were non-whites we, people very proud of our heritage, have ultimately depended on another race to have writing. BUT in fact the ancient images–busts, statues, coins, medallions, mosaics, anthropoid sarcophagi, etc., testify that the Phoenicians were classically Caucasian, and the ancient literature doesn’t contradict (for instance, the Roman poet Virgil in his AENEID); and genetic studies have solidly linked the Phoenicians with the strongly Caucasoid and often leucodermic Lebanese, 90% of whose genetic heritage is traced to the Phoenicians (Haber et al, 2017). So by classifying the Phoenicians as non-white we unwarrantably deprive ourselves of heritage and, again, make ourselves seem culturally dependent….
What I am NOT doing is shilling for Talmudic bigots who hate us. When I say West Eurasian Jews are white, I’m not whiteWASHing them. One sentence can say it: Jews are doing everything that so-called anti-Semites accuse them of doing.
Well, that’s it. All the best, brother (or sister?). Love! Oh and here is the writing alluded to above, just finished: “A GRAVE WARNING TO EURO-AMERICANS.”
https://theeuropeanfamily.com/f/a-grave-warning-to-euro-americans
John 3
Lucius, you’ve been reading too many Jewish or Jewish-influenced history.
The Phoenicians were White–not kind of White, not mixed light-skinned arabs or Canaanites. They were White Israelites–not Jews–Israelites from the Tribe of Dan, who also settled Dan/Denmark, which is why the Vikings and the Phoenicians were the same seafaring people.
The historians you seem to trust mistake geography for ethnicity. The land of Canaan–had different tribes of people occupying it. Specifically the coast near Tyre and Sidon–was occupied by White Israelites, whom the Greeks called Phoenicians, but they called themselves Ken’ani, which means “merchants”.
The Phoenicians (the Tribe of Dan) also founded the seafaring empire of Carthage on the North Coast of Africa. Both the Phoenicians and Carthaginians spoke similar forms of Hebrew–but they were NOT Jews.
We know the Phoenicians could not possibly have been Lebanese-Arabs or racial Canaanites because neither of those groups ever sailed or traveled the globe in their ships. Only White people have ever done that in any significant way.
And, no, the “Lebanese” are not real Phoenicians–they are Arabs with some White admixture, which only makes them Arab. If you want to know what a real Phoenician looked like, just look at the Irish and Danish people, many of whom descend from the Phoenicians (the Danaans/Tribe of Dan).
Trust no “genetic” studies of the ancient world, especially the Near East. None of them acknowledge the truth that all the great ancient civilizations since the beginning of recorded history were originally White, including Sumeria, Egypt, Israel, Persia, Assyria, Greece, Parthia, Carthage, Etruria, Troy, and Rome. Not kind of White. White.
This video is a good overview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-U8wM3Gp9g
Paul
i should agree with you reluctantly . Yes , she is white as well as Marilyn Monroe and other infatuated victims were jew. How? You destroy the white soul or spirit or thier identity. I know nothing about genetics nor Italian geography . But this young , distressed jewesss claimed she was refused a role because of her race. She is white. Only because white people are now stupid, selfish , ungrateful, improvident and vainglorious . Yes, we have become jew. And not through the lethal blindness of miscegenation alone . One becomes like the God , one loves and cultivates . We are infected with the doctrine of nondiscrimination and final delusion of Egalitarismus , a disease to which the jew and some “white” are immune . Christian or CHrist is white . Not to be of CHrist is anti- white. This young creature is another jewess, who received gifts endowed by the jewish art of eugenics; they thank us with our geno/culturcide .
lucius vanini
JOHN 3: Of course the Phoenicians were White! WHO HERE SAID OTHERWISE??? If you’d go to the survivable bother of actually reading my post to Obie, you’d see that I said the ancient images all attest to a classically Caucasian phenotype. My point is for the benefit of White Nationalists who confine Whiteness to Europe.
Virgil in the AENEID depicts Dido and her sister as blond, and Dido as pale and as having long, flowing hair. Of course, Carthage was a colony of the Phoenicians and Dido is represented as its founder as well as queen. WNs will see as counterintuitive a WHITE ancestrally Asian queen who is an African by residence, but that’s the kind of ignorance I’ve labored to eradicate.
LOL, I am the very opposite of the people who confound geography with ethnicity, and yet you characterize me as “trusting historians” who do so!
Interesting as well is the fact that ALL the ancient images of Europa, a Phoenician princess after whom our continent was named, represent a purely Caucasian phenotype. YOU may not be mystified by this but those who suppose Europeans alone can be white might well be.
The Greeks and Romans were presumably well-acquainted with the Phoenicians and what manner of people they were; and it’s hardly possible that an educated Roman like Virgil wouldn’t know what Rome’s most dangerous enemies, the Carthaginians, looked like.
I’m not sure who among us here has been misled by Jewish history….
John 3
The problem is that you refer to White as a “phenotype”, which means it is something you look like or can pass as. Real Whiteness is a genotype, not a phenotype. It’s not a “cluster”. There are plenty of people, like Winona Ryder who can “pass” as White and fool most racially unaware people, but their DNA results would show that they do NOT have the same genetics as the vast majority of real White Europeans.
That’s why “White Nationalism” you espouse is pejoratively called “Grey Nationalism”. It allows anyone in the club who “looks” White, like Jews, whom Jared Taylor at amren.com deems “white enough” to live in White nations. A recipe for disaster.
lucius vanini
JOHN 3: The last sentence of the second paragraph above should read: “WNs will see as counterintuitive a WHITE ancestrally Asian queen who is an African by residence,” etc.
Pantheos, I wish I could edit here!
Christians For Truth
We fixed it for you. Cheers!
Katt
Mel Gibson would never have called Ryder an oven dodger because he doesn’t believe in the Holocaust, nor does his father.
Víðarr Kerr
That, plus she wasn’t even alive then. I imagine that was a saying back in the day. Or, maybe said to older Jews now, that actually did dodge the ovens (which never happened. They dodged the work camps).
GlencoeKidd
Don’t let Melaney Gibson fool ya its a baphomet & satanist to the core all just a show
Klipper
Yeah, if you’re in Hollywood as long as Gibson, it’s hard to be a Christian…which he claims to be….
Ernstly
Mel Gibson completely denies he every called Winona Ryder an “oven dodger”. He says that she lied about it ten years ago, and she’s still lying about it today. Considering that Ryder has a long history of prescription drug abuse, combined with the fact that Jews know they can make false claims about antisemitism and no one will challenge them, it’s highly likely that Gibson is telling the truth. And Ryder’s career needs a boost, even if that means playing the Jew card:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/mel-gibson-denies-asking-winona-ryder-if-she-was-an-oven-dodger/
luke2236
“Oven dodger”…that would be hilarious, had there actually ever have been any ovens…
Patrick White
This was deliciously acerbic, and therefore a great read. And all true, of course. I look forward to more like it.