(Jerusalem Post) A recent article describing the vain Jewish search for the Lost Tribes of Israel demonstrates not only that they can’t even define what a “Jew” is — but also how they blindly and narcissistically conflate the definition of a “Jew” with “Israelite” which completely contradicts both the Old and New Testaments:
[CFT Note: we have edited the original lengthy, disjointed, and meandering JP article for the sake of focus and brevity. But for serious student of this subject, we suggest you follow the links about and read the article in its entirety.]
For millennia, the idea of the lost tribes of Israel has been a topic of intrigue for believers and non-believers alike. There is certainly no debate that following the destruction of the First Temple, most of the 12 tribes have been scattered across the globe. From the words of Israel’s prophets to the tales of the Sambation River to this day, the question remains: Where did they go?
Well, that was anyone’s best guess – until today. There is a group of people looking to uncover the truth behind the lost tribes in order to determine where they went and to integrate them back into the Jewish people.
What makes someone lost? That is the first question to explore. It appears there are three types of “lost” Jews: those claiming to be descendants of biblical tribes; those who converted decades or centuries ago; and those who have been forced to hide their Judaism due to fears of persecution…
…The Magazine spoke with [Rudy] Rochman during his latest trip to Africa, where he was filming episodes for his upcoming documentary “We Were Never Lost.” Speaking from the Ivory Coast, he discussed the content of the documentary:
“Historically the nation of Israel consisted of 12 tribes, however today the Jewish people primarily descend from the Kingdom of Judea, which only consisted of two-and-a-half tribes: Yehuda, Benjamin and Levi… while the rest of the tribes and the majority of Israel were displaced by the Assyrians and dispersed around the world prior to the Roman destruction of Jerusalem. This means if we found the descendants of the nine and a half tribes, we would be much more than the 15 million Jews we are today. This is not a myth. The question is where did they go?”
He continues about how he got involved in the project. “When I first found out there were Jews in Africa, I felt a sense of shock and the responsibility to connect with them. I asked myself: what if they had come to Israel first while we were still suffering in the Diaspora, wouldn’t we want them to come help and recognize us?”
…The idea of conversion is a salient point in the discussion of “if” and “how” these communities will integrate into the wider Jewish people. Rabbi Eliahu Birnbaum, also known as the Yehudi Olami – “the wandering Jew” – is a world-renowned expert in the field of Jewish communities throughout the globe: lost tribes, descendants of Jews and emerging communities..
…Birnbaum’s work has brought him to over 140 countries. According to him, we should be focusing on three groups: nidchei yisrael (descendants of Israel); zera yisrael (a child or grandchild of a Jewish man); and giyorim (converts).
…According to Birnbaum, the view on this group has historically been that they have Jewish blood, but he points out that the thinking is flawed: “You can go anywhere in the world and find people with some Jewish blood, but that does not necessarily make them Jewish,” he says.
Rather, the term nidchei Yisrael refers to those with a spiritual connection to Judaism – in other words, spiritual descendants of the nation. To Birnbaum, this much is clear in their commitment to the Torah and mitzvot.
When Birnbaum approaches his work, he is coming from the angle of not “Who is a Jew?” but rather “What is the Jewish nation?”
“‘Who is a Jew?’ is a question for one person. We need to ask not a personal question but a general one. ‘What is the Jewish nation?’ More than anything, we have to introduce the question,” he stressed. In solving it, he believes we will see that these three groups are indeed our brothers and sisters.
Birnbaum is unique in his outlook in that as a dayan, his approach goes beyond ideology and is deeply rooted in practicality. “It is clear that the only way they can join the Jewish nation is through giyur [conversion to Judaism].” What this looks like is unique to the individual, as for many it is just “finishing the process” as they are already learned in Torah and mitzvot.
Birnbaum, like everyone else the Magazine spoke with, says the reason they want to join the Jewish people is not because they want to be considered Jewish when the Messiah comes (as the Sages forbade converts during this time) or to make aliyah – it is purely spiritual.
This concept is perplexing at first glance, though when explored, it makes sense. “We live in the post-modern world where people are looking for something… There are many Christians who move to Islam, so maybe it’s a rejection of Christian doctrine.” He also says, “They always say it is so hard to be a Jew, but how is it that so many want to become one?” Though he laments, “Maybe we are not ready to accept them… we haven’t opened our eyes to see something new.” He believes this is part of a “galut (exile) mentality” that has plagued us since the Holocaust….
…To Greenspan, the idea of whether or not these tribes are “lost” is totally irrelevant: “We can never know for certain if they are a tribe or not – it would be very hard to prove that they are. What is most astounding is the mass acceptance of Judaism. Not just that, but the intensity and spirituality of these communities. There are thousands of truly learned Jews… quoting the Midrash and the Sages… They are learning and reading at the highest levels…”
…He calls the phenomenon “YouTube Judaism” because the advent of the Internet allowed those in remote places to learn more traditional Jewish practices. Greenspan maintains that from a halachic perspective, none of them will be accepted by mainstream Judaism unless they have converted.
What conversion actually means is a different story. “There are two conversions: national and social. You can go through an Orthodox conversion but still be rejected by the masses because of the color of your skin or the way you look… It is something that happens even today.” What scares him is that “In 50 years, there could be millions of people who are shomer mitzvot and deal with antisemitism for being Jews, yet the State of Israel will never accept them… It is a very complicated and sad situation….”
…He holds that the most important aspect of the debate is “whether they are genuinely connected to Judaism today and living Jewish lives,” though he acknowledges the latter is a wide-open debate….
…The major sticking point, according to those the Magazine spoke with, is the idea of aliyah. Almost everyone interviewed says that the fear that millions of people who may not actually be Jewish will all of a sudden become eligible to immigrate to Israel is the single biggest factor holding back recognition of these communities. Of course, at first glance, this appears to be a major problem, though the responses show that it is not as serious as previously thought.
…One of the main reasons for this is discrimination. As the majority of these Jews are black, Asian or South American, they do not look like “typical Jews.” Of course, this can be easily explained by thousands of years of intermarriage and evolution, many having lived in different climates. Moreover, issues spill into Ashkenazi versus Sephardi culture, as most practice Sephardi traditions….
…Greenspan says, “Judaism is so colorful, it is like a tapestry… with threads going every direction. We should retain this tapestry.” Rochman hopes his work can empower the next generation to be stronger in standing up for who we are as people, shift public perception, and spark a conversation about whether “our values and Torah are fundamental to our society.” Rabbi Mordechai speaks poignantly about how this work can “emphasize to the world the diversity of the Jewish people and can help to combat antisemitism….”
Note the essential contradiction here — first they claim that the 12 Tribes of Israel were dispersed upon the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD, but then they acknowledge that the dispersion began long before that event — and of course, the later is the truth.
The ten northern tribes of Israel began their dispersion during the Assyrian captivity around 700 BC — and they were never “Jews” — the so-called “Jews” as they are known in the New Testament are comprised only of Israelites of the southern kingdom from the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi.
It is these “lost’ Israelites of the ten northern tribes who are referred to in the New Testament as the “uncircumsized” — Israelites who had largely lost their identity as Israelites over the previous seven centuries since the Assyrian captivity.
Paul identifies the “uncircumcized” as Israelites dispersed among the nations who over time had become “alienated” from Israel in the past in Ephesians 2:
“Wherefore, remember, that ye were once the nations in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that called Circumcision in the flesh made by hands, that ye were at that time apart from Christ, having been alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of the promise, having no hope, and without God, in the world”
—Ephesians 2:11-12, Young’s Literal Translation
We chose to use Young’s Literal Translation here because it correctly translates the Greek apallotrioó (“apallotriomenoi“) [see Strong’s 526] more accurately as “having been alienated from” instead of the more ambiguous and misleading “being aliens from” or “excluded from” which does not convey the essential meaning that the Ephesians were not merely non-Israelite “gentiles” but rather uncircumcised Israelites from the ten northern tribes who had, over time, become “alienated” from that part of Israel who had keep the faith and traditions alive.
Without this understanding and context of these verses, we cannot truly understand the meaning of Ephesians 2:14, which clearly states that Christ came to remove the separation between these two factions of of the 12 tribes of Israel and reunited them under Him:
“For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us“
The truth and meaning of this crucial verse is intentionally muddied and obscured in the New Living Translation — a top-selling Bible among mainstream “judeo-Christians” — where it reads and extrapolates far beyond the original Greek text:
“For Christ himself has brought peace to us. He united Jews and Gentiles into one people when, in his own body on the cross, he broke down the wall of hostility that separated us.”
Again, these “uncircumcized” lost Israelites from the ten northern tribes are whom Paul describes in Romans 11 as the “wild olive” branches that had become “broken off” of the Israelite commonwealth — which is the “olive tree.”
“And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree”
–Romans 11:17
Revelation 11 confirms that both the “olive tree” — Judean Israelites from the southern kingdom and the wild olive tree — the “lost” Israelites from the ten northern tribes will be reunited in the Kingdom of heaven on earth to come:
These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
In other words, under Christ all twelve tribes of Israel would become reunited — and Israel from thereafter would be known as “Christians” as Justin Martyr stated,
“Christ is our King, and Christianity is our race which you knew once as Israel.”
–Justin Martyr, 100-160 AD, from Paragraphs of Trypho chapter 135.
And we know that the “lost” ten northern tribes of Israel migrated up into Europe via two routes — through the “Pass of Israel” of the Caucasus Mountains, which is why Europeans are also known as “Caucasians” — and via the sea, across the Mediterranean to Tarshish (Celtic Iberia-Spain), and then from there up to the British Isles and Ireland.
Note how the Jews in search of these “lost” tribes of Israel limit their search for “Jews” only — not Israelites who gave up all practices and rituals of the Hebrews — which the Jews cling to as the basis for their “Israelite” identity.
That’s because apostate Jews broke their covenant with God by making marriages to forbidden, non-Adamic races — and switched their “Jewish” identity from patrilineal to martilineal descent — thus making any claim to an Israelite bloodline illegitimate.
And they admitted this was, in fact, the case in the 1980 Jewish Almanac when they wrote,
“Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a Jew or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.”
And in the above-cited article on their search for the lost tribes of Israel, the Jews admit that “it would be very hard to prove” any connection with Africans to the legitimate bloodline of the original tribes — a gross understatement if there ever were one.
So to determine who is a real Jew, they ironically adopt the same cop out that judeo-Christians have adopted to determine Christian identity — by coming up with the vague and meaningless concept of “spiritual Judaism” or “spiritual Jews.”
And their spurious explanation of how Jews became every color of the rainbow — through “thousands of years of intermarriage and evolution, many having lived in different climates” — is just as nonsensical as how mainstream judeo-Christians attempt to explain how we got all the races and ethnicities on the face of the earth from two racially pure and identical progenitors — either Adam and Eve or Noah and his wife.
This bogus and futile Jewish search for the lost tribes of Israel among Third World non-Adamics or pre-Adamics can find its origins in the spurious 1650 book The Hope Of Israel by a Portuguese Jew named Menasseh Ben Israel.
This search for “lost Jews” is not in anyway the same as the search for lost Israelites — Jews are not Israelites, and Israelites are not Jews — and Jews need to get off this insane hamster wheel and accept that reality.
Presently, The Chosen is getting some hype. It’s the usual kosher production, where all the natives of Judea are a motley bunch of brown & black, while the foreigners are generally white.
One of these white foreigners is a Roman soldier who is drawn to Jesus’ messaging. The series emphasizes that this Roman is Germanic.
Could this show have accidentally promoted the truth shown in this article’s map?
RB, funny how Jews are always shooting themselves in the foot, the harder they try to push their multicult agenda, the more they subvert themselves and let the cat out of the bag.
A large part of the original Roman Empire included the Italo-Celts in the northeast part of the peninsula. And isn’t it ironic that the Goths who sacked Rome and brought about its fall were actually descendants of the Parthians and Getae, the Lost Tribes? A little payback, I’d say.
north by north west ……….
Would you mind unpacking your comment a bit more.
I’m trying to understand the “Players” during that time.
You mention “jews”. Who exactly are “Jews” to you during the First Century.
When you say “pay back” ………………….. who got the “pay back”?
Most of us here at CFT do not equate Modern Jewry with the Israelites of the Scriptures.
We’ve had a running debate on CFT for 2 years at least trying to understand Modern Jewry’s connection to the Scriptural Israelites.
Anything you can add would be interesting.
If you have read Weisman’s treatise — “Who is Esau-Edom”, I tend to favor that theory for reference.
Thanks.
West….I believe that by the 1st Century AD, after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem and the rise of Talmudic Judaism, those who identified as “Jews” were already well on their way to breaking their racial covenant with God through race mixing and unsanctioned marriages with non-Adamics.
No, today’s Jews cannot possibly be Israelites by blood, nor even Adamic. That’s why they resent the white race for remaining pure even without consciously doing so by following God’s command; we did it because that truth was written on our hearts, and we followed our hearts.
Christ rebuked the Pharisees for not believing in Abraham and doing the works of Abraham, and once they fell into that apostasy, race mixing became inevitable. That’s why marriages to people of “strange gods” was proscribed among Israelites, it always led to destroying the bloodline.
The “pay back” I was referring to was the long conflict between the Romans and the Parthians, whom the Romans tried to dominate. And when those Scythian Parthians moved up into Europe and became “Goths”, they invaded Rome and crushed them, as a little “pay back” for the Roman enmity they had suffered under for centuries.
north by north west ………….
Thank you for the clarification/explanation.
Like how you think. 🙂
Great comment, thanks.
I treasure the work CFT does so much!
Has CFT done any work on the tribe of Dan? I have read that many place throughput Europe bear his mark-the Danube, Denmark etc…
Also, something that stands out to me about the New Testament is that the apostles all travelled to places that were occupied by Whites (Galatians were Celtic settlers in Anatolia for example).
Henry, yes, there has been a lot written about the tribe of Dan in Europe…seems pretty conclusive….I found this description of how the tribe split up. Caution, though, this is from a British-Israelite site run by a Jew, who claims that Jews are Judah, which they are not….but you can find a lot of useful information here if you know how to sift out the nonsense about Jews….he says this of Dan:
“In Biblical Times the Tribe of Dan had been divided into three (or more) different sections. One section had been in the northern Galilee (Joshua 19; 42) and neighbored Gad. Later part of this section moved with other Israelites to Scythia. The Damnae in Serica (east of Scythia), were also called “Dingling” and were linked to the “DANGALAI” whose name means “DAN-OF-GALILEE”. They had been neighbors of the Goths (from Gad) of Gadrosia in Ancient Eastern Iran. The DAMNAE of Scythian Serica were named similarly to the DAMNONII of Scotland (who lived besides the northern River DON of Scotland) and the DAMNONES of DANNONIA which was the name given to Devon and Cornwall. DANNONIA in Britain was named after the Tribe of DAN.”
“The Tribe of Dan was recalled in the Children of DON in Welsh legend and the Tribe of DANA (“Tuatha de Danaan:) who came to the British Isles (according to Irish tradition) from the Land of Israel via Greece and Scandinavia. The area Damnonia in southern Britain as well as being alternatively called Dannonia was also known as “Defenia”. The name “DEFENIA” is similar to that of DAPHNIA which was the former place of DAN in the Galilee in the Land of Northern Israel.”
https://www.britam.org/dan.html
I’ll check out those resources. Thanks for the reply.
https://fitzinfo.net/forum/
Chabad’s Khazarian ‘Heavenly Jerusalem’ project.
Has anyone read this? it explains alot:
DISSIPATION OF THE DARKNESS
History of the Origin of Masonry
https://ia903406.us.archive.org/21/items/pdfy-GnQmFCGkr56h9LYT/G%20S%20Lawrence%20-%20Dissipation%20of%20the%20Darkness%20-%20History%20of%20the%20Origin%20of%20Freemasonry.pdf
I skimmed it. Not sure what to make of it. Seems like it could be fake. The part where they claimed to put the “Bible” on the table as if it were a book in front of Herod was a mistake. The Bible didn’t exist at that point as a book. It would have been a pile of scrolls, and you couldn’t just plop it down on a table all together….made me skeptical of the whole thing….
and the word {{{JEWISH}}}}….doh!
actually past thirty third degree may as well be {{{SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN}}} !!
let’s don’t forget that Solomon loved more than a few….”strange women”,
and called forth demons using a six-pointed …STAR !
furthermore,
…… as for “Samaria” and Samaritans…as in the “Good” Samaritan….hint.
https://bibleatlas.org/sepharvaim.htm
Blacks believe they were the original Asians, including the Samarai! Hebrew Samarai!
https://files.catbox.moe/2kalkf.mp4
I do not believe that the “Jews Vainly Search For The ‘Lost’ Tribes Of Israel In The Third World” In fact, they are not only searching for them in the Third World, but rather EVERYWHERE. They are not “searching” for the “The ‘Lost’ Tribes Of Israel” but rather for individuals who crave for a mystical identity who would be easily manipulated to assume the role of “Jews” in the International politics of “Jewish New World Order”
You see, the Illuminati Bankers require an inexhaustible pool of nincompoops that can be programmed and modelled into Jewish Golem to act as Lieutenants in the New Messianic New World Order. The current population of “Jews” is evidently not enough for the monumental work at hand. Many are falling away, most are not breeding enough kids, and others are not “Kosher” enough.
So what to do? Go to the Black, convince them that they are “The ‘Lost’ Tribes Of Israel”. Go to the Puerto Ricans convince them that they are “The ‘Lost’ Tribes Of Israel” Go to the Whites, convince them that they are “The ‘Lost’ Tribes Of Israel” Go to the Mexicans, the Indians, The Nigerians, etc, etc, and convince all these fools that they are “The ‘Lost’ Tribes Of Israel” Then you have yourself a pool of disposable nit wit Recruits ready for Illuminati sinister plans and errands.
Sorry, Bear, the Jews don’t go to whites and convince them that they are the lost tribes of Israel. They have never done that. They discredit any whites who explore that idea, call them “hate groups”.
Whites figured that out the real identity of Israel all by themselves based on the Bible and history hundreds of years ago.
Whites who believe they are the true Israel do not believe they are “Jews”.
Whites who believe that they are the true Israel oppose the Jews in every way, unlike these fake “Jews” in Africa, India, and South America who worship them.
That’s the whole point of the article that you missed. It’s not about convincing people they are Israel but rather “Jews”. Israel does not equal “Jews”. Big difference.
Kevin
Well, “Hundreds of Years Ago” was possibly around 1666 when some White millennialists were hoodwinked by the likes of that Manasseh Ben Israel, who claimed that the Times of “The Messiah” would be heralded by return of the Jews to Great Britain. They came back. Did they not? He was one of those who welcomed and promoted the delusion of “The ingathering of the Jews” “ The Lost Tribe Of Israel” identity was also floated around the same time. It has been hanging around, ever since.
Then the Jews started to stir the English pot, making the broth, out of which came the Puritans, The Sabatheans (Not Sabbateans) , the Calvinists, all of whom, were completing to be “ The Purest form of The Lost Tribe” But like every other Jewish identity that the Jews sell to the Goy from their basket of “Competitive Victimhood” such as “ NAACP, “Black Live Mater” LGBTQ community, “White Supremacists” “Zionism” etc., “The Lost Tribe” identity falls in the same category as is a ruse for recruiting the gullible. Watch yourselves.
So said the Catholic Bear…Catholicism being the greatest Jewish ruse of all time. Sounds like you’ve been reading too much Henry Makow. What a joke.
Agreed. We must wonder why they bother continually coming to CFT. It’s one thing if someone disagrees with CFT’s theology but simply reads the articles for interesting information on Jewish Perfidy. It’s another thing to want to “engage” in the comment section.
Narcissism? I realize this is a jew’s word — but from a Scriptural perspective — Pride and Ego, most likely.
I’ve yet to come across a Catholic who doesn’t prioritize Church dogma over what the Scriptures actually say.
They refuse to believe that much of Church rituals and dogma find their origins in babylonian occult traditions, just like Judaism, which is why Jews have always been attracted to the Church and infiltrated it to the highest levels.
The fact that the Church has allowed many Jews to become Pope says it all.
“The Two Babylons” which proves all these points, makes their heads spin…
https://christiansfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/The-Two-Babylons.pdf
Piarist Calasanz ……
The fact that the Church has allowed many Jews to become Pope says it all.
How about the simple fact that Christendom allowed a Pope?!!!!
The concept is ridiculous from the Get Go.
The Apostle’s spoke of “organization” in a “Fellowship of Believers”, but obviously they never meant ONE supreme leader. It’s outrageous.
It looks like Bear agrees with the standard Catholic teaching that the ten northern tribes of Israel simply disappeared in the mists of time. From Catholic.com….
“…When the House of Israel was conquered, most people belonging to the ten Northern tribes were deported and settled elsewhere in the Assyrian kingdom, including places near Nineveh, Haran, and on what is now the Iran-Iraq border. They were replaced by settlers from locations in or near Babylon and Syria.
These settlers intermarried, together with the remaining Israelites, and became the Samaritans mentioned in the New Testament (a few hundred of whom still survive today). The Israelites who had been deported also intermarried with the peoples of the places where they had been resettled. They eventually lost their distinct identity, disappeared, and their culture was lost to history. Some refer to them as “the Lost Tribes of Israel.”
https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-lost-tribes-of-israel
This take on the lost tribes makes a mockery of Christ who said, “I come not but for the lost sheep of the House of Israel” (Matthew 15:24). A plethora of verses prove that Christ came to regather all of Israel, which would be impossible if they disappeared in history.
Also, James addresses his epistle to the all 12 tribes of Israel scattered abroad. Again, this contradicts the Church’s position on the lost tribes.
But this shouldn’t surprise us considering the Catholic Church believes that it is the New Israel, having replaced “the Jews” who rejected Christ, ignoring the fact that the majority of Judeans did not reject Him, nor did the ten northern tribes, which included the Ephesians whom Paul acknowledged as Israelites.
As the old saying goes, Catholics have Bibles but don’t read them because the priests do it for them.
It should be obvious why the Catholic Church denies that the lost tribes of Israel stayed lost. Because if if the Israelite people are still around, it destroys the Church’s replacement theology that they are the new Israel.
Replacement theology allows others besides Israel to inherit the New Covenant that was promised to Israel and Israel only in Jeremiah 31:31.
Passah,
This is for you, and all those who believe in some specialness attributed to “Race” or “Tribe” or the so-called “The Lost House Of Israel”
“ ‘The kingdom of Heaven may be compared to a king who gave a feast for his son’s wedding. He sent his servants to call those who had been invited, but they would not come. Next he sent some more servants with the words, “Tell those who have been invited: Look, my banquet is all prepared, my oxen and fattened cattle have been slaughtered, everything is ready. Come to the wedding.” But they were not interested: one went off to his farm, another to his business, and the rest seized his servants, maltreated them and killed them.
The king was furious. He despatched his troops, destroyed those murderers and burnt their town. Then he said to his servants, “The wedding is ready; but as those who were invited proved to be unworthy, go to the main crossroads and invite everyone you can find to come to the wedding.” So these servants went out onto the roads and collected together everyone they could find, bad and good alike; and the wedding hall was filled with guests.” Mathew 22:2-10
The above parable explains what happened to the Israelites and the Jews. Indeed, they were “Friends” who had been invited by God to His Banquet. But when the time came for God to appear, (Who is The Christ) most ignored Him. Others were not bothered. While others murdered His Servants, in what culminated with the crucifixion of The Messiah. And in anger, “He despatched his troops, destroyed those murderers and burnt their town.” Then after that God invited everyone to His Banquet. So……There.
Bear, all you’ve proven by quoting this parable from Matthew is that you don’t understand your Bible, proving my point.
The entire Gospel of Matthew is addressed to Israelites. There would be Israelites in Judea who did not believe. It foretells how the disciples would have to go out into “the nations” and find others to invite — yes, “uncircumcized” Israelites from the lost tribes. It’s not a blanket invitation to universalize the New Covenant, as your priests have told you. The Great Commission was a command to Israelites to go into the nations to find other Israelites and bring the Gospels to them.
As Christ said, “There are other sheep I have which are not of this fold” (John 10:16) i.e., other Israelites besides those in Judea from the southern kingdom.
Matthew 15:24, “I come not but for the lost sheep of the House of Israel.” Your universalist reading of the parable contradicts this proclamation.
The Bear ………………….. and the Administrators at CFT …………..
….This is for you, and all those who believe in some specialness attributed to “Race” or “Tribe” or the so-called “The Lost House Of Israel”….”
It’s this kind of Patronizing, Condescending comment that I believe should not be tolerated IF ………………………. IF ………………….. the commenter is UNWILLING to “contend” over the issue. The Bear most likely will have no argument to Passah.
The Bear refuses to take part in the myriad of discussions we have had here at CFT.
To “The Bear” ………………. just type in “Universalism” into the Search Criteria and you will find a half-dozen Theological Studies on this topic.
Your name appears NO WHERE in the discussion thread.
Why?
Because you are a Coward with no Scriptural argument.
You can Patronize us here with no consequence. If I ran CFT, you’d be gone by now.
I have no problem with you making comments. Just to be clear MY PROBLEM WITH YOU is that you will not engage with your critics.
CFT ………….. it’s your site. But if it were me, I’d throw this guy out. He refuses to rebut the Theological arguments against his position. But has no problem hurling insults.
Enough is enough.
@Parrah
“Catholicism being the greatest Jewish ruse of all time.”
You may wish to reconsider that statement.
Third Reich: The Return Of The Holy Roman Empire
https://studyres.com/doc/17378904/third-reich–return-of-the-holy-roman-empire
The Secret Masonic Victory of World War Two Part 16 – The Subversion of the Catholic Church
https://media.christogenea.org/videos/wmfinck/secret-masonic-victory-world-war-two-part-16-peril-jews
The Secret Masonic Victory of World War Two
https://media.christogenea.org/videos/featured/smv
Hans
That’s a joke, I hope. Claiming NS Germany was the new Holy Roman Empire? Are you not aware how the NS clamped down on the Catholic Church? Makes no sense.
And the “masonic” infiltration of the Catholic Church was Jewish, because freemasonry is Jewish. And the Church was infiltrated and subverted by Jews long before the Masons showed up. The Inquisition is proof of that.
And even long before the Inquisition, the Church had a “Jewish” problem with converso Jews at the highest levels of power. Trusting that Jews stop being Jews because they are “baptized” is the height of naivete and arrogance.
a lot of english + house windsor coburg sachs believe that they are from lost
israel tribe . all europeans are indoaryans + all european languages
are of indoaryan origen . from portugal to russia !
It’s not one or the other, aryans v Israelites. If you know your history, they are closely related cousins. The Aryans originally arose out of ancient Persia, and they inter-married with the ten northern tribes, such as Cimmerians and Scythians, during the Assyrian captivity and after. They are hardly distinct bloodlines.
Kevin ….
Once you learn that people like “The Bear” and “Gene” are Catholic Universalists ………….. then they make sense.
Took me awhile to figure it out. Get them talking enough and their truth will finally come out.
West I think Bear or Gene being to what degree of Catholic is not a big factor in the argument. They bring some good points and we are on the same side against jews that’s the big factor to me if we are going to fight among Christians we have to call out all denomination’s 1st the evangelical’s they offer the world to isrehell and make hell on earth doing it for jews.
All they need to do is face the truth and what they have done to the world and name the JEWS for what they have done doing and want to do. But they are the Christians stupidest and most damaging its sick. I remind you wrote in the past steel sharpens steel and I know I have argued here with commenters I first think oh a jew troll?
I remember years ago I was arguing with a guy named Mr Hoosier about Rachael Welsh being good to me for a wife and then you got in it and made friendly peace and you said that you’re glad for your soul to not have mixed with the likes of Rachael Welsh. And I said more power to you. I never thought like that I still look at her as a plus+.
Anyway my point is our only problem is JEWS – that’s the commitment any good people should 1st have in common and name and point out JEWS. After that’s done, we can have the Olympics every other month and make things right. With all the jew info out, it’s the sickest frustrating disease but has a simple cure – THE TRUTH.
And it’s not all supernational we are left here to be responsible and show the way, the truth about jews and good job to all those doing that.
I don’t appreciate being “shamed” by the likes of them for Loving my Race and even going so far as suggesting I will burn in hell for doing so.
West Ya I get that. And it sure would be nice to have our race love each other and I do but we are divided people for sure. Thats why I am trying to focus on the jews because we know what the world and life would be like without jews in power and separated or of no concern? we do have that in our history but not NOW or their plotting against us for all of our life’s working hard at it and it is paying off for the jews for the last 150 years and getting away with so much forever. Our people that are on the jews side or against us are weak and pathetic we cannot love them some could be old friends or family they will self-destruct and hide all over the world. When the jews for the 110th time face Justice.
The idea that Jews think that the ten northern tribes of Israel were also “Jews” shows just how little they understand about the Bible.
No wonder they tossed out the Torah and wrote their own version – the Talmud.
I have a few questions.
What sort of theology does this site follow? Is it Catholic or Orthodox? Or do you guys interpret everything yourselves?
When the author says that it’s ridiculous that every race came from Adam and Eve or Noah and his wife, what is the correct view from your position?
Is it your position that a Jew remains a Jew even if they become Christian?
How do you define Christian(Orthodox, Catholic, one of the many Protestant sects?)
It’s just a lot to digest, I’m not looking for a fight.
Mike,
Please read our “About” page:
https://christiansfortruth.com/about/
We are non-denominational Christians, most of whom came out of mainstream churches, both Catholic, Protestant, and otherwise because they failed to answer crucial questions that all of us had.
We define a Christian as someone who reads the Bible themselves and follows Christ. We believe the Bible is self-revelatory, that it explains itself — it doesn’t need a priest class to interpret it for us as the Catholic and Orthodox churches do — and that anyone of normal intelligence can read and understand it using diligence and a concordance — and approaching it anew.
We believe that Christians must “prove all things” and hold onto only what is good and true (1 Thessalonians 5:21).
A real Christian will always feel like a lone voice speaking out against the misguided majority (Luke 18:8):
https://christiansfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/you-are-all-wrong.jpg
To understand our approach to the Bible, you must read our essays on the Bible and Bible history:
https://christiansfortruth.com/category/bible-studies/
Our position on the Jews can be found here:
https://christiansfortruth.com/who-are-jews/
But don’t believe us — here’s what “religious” Jews think about us, straight from their own mouths:
http://talmudunmasked.com/chapter14.htm
As far as Jewish converts, we suggest you read the following article:
https://christiansfortruth.com/meet-the-jew-who-claims-when-he-converted-to-catholicism-he-became-more-jewish-than-ever/
We suggest that you not only read these articles, but also the comment section as well, and do so with an open mind.
Hope this helps. God brought you here for a reason.
Perfect thanks for the clarification, I read the About section right after posting the comment, should have looked around first.
I will look into those references.
God bless you
I love this site for its adherence to Scripture. But one thing that confuses me. If Noah and his children AND their wives were purely Adamic. Which must meant that there was zero mixing from Adam through to Noah. But here’s the rub. Genetics then dictates, that as you pointed out, this purity must’ve run through his children’s spouses bloodlines also. This being the case, the in-laws ENTIRE family would be pure, yet their parents, grandparents, great grandparents and great great grandparents (remember the lifespan pre flood) weren’t allowed on the Ark?
Dom ….
How do you know they were even alive Pre-Flood?
It was also about “faith”. There could have been thousands upon thousands of pure Adamic peoples pre-flood who simply thought Noah was nuts.
Look at the world today!!! Jesus said the end would be kin to the time of Noah.
We have pure Israelites/Adamites in the USA right now who worship the jew and the world, and think people like us here (well some) at CFT are crazy, racist bigots.
Don’t purposely throw a wrench into something when we don’t have all the information. It causes confusion and division.
Dom….
Noah and his family were preserved for two stated reasons.
1) Noah was “perfect in his generations” or genealogy, that is, his bloodline had not been tainted with non-Adamic bloodlines, as were Cain’s descendants.
2) Noah was preserved also because he was righteous and obeyed God. Clearly, there were others who had pure bloodlines, but there were not preserved because they were not “righteous” and had fallen into sin.
The Flood was the first “Great Reset”.
Noah’s preservation was a foreshadowing of Christ’s return when he would also preserve or save those who had remained racially pure but just as importantly were “righteous” and believed in Him and the Father, that is, they did the works of Abraham. The Israelites who did not do the works of Abraham were not preserved or saved.
Talmud = AntiChrist
Kabbalah = AntiChrist
Josephus = AntiChrist
Lies = AntiChrist
Spiritual Judaism and all ISM = AntiChrist
Spiritual Judaism = Kabalah = extreme demons on steroids and a GREAT demonic stronghold on humans and the land that only Christ Jesus died for to deliver us from (evil). The Way is the Truth and the Light, the two witnesses. These jews who are looking for Israel are attempting to entrap the naive so their god the Satan can sweep them away just as they use the Sampson Option to “Take everyone down with them”.
https://justice4poland.com/2016/05/17/chabad-leader-messiah-menachem-mendel-schneerson-on-his-plans-for-destroying-ukraine-and-russia-reprint/
“However there is still a structured organization -the Orthodox clergy. We will send there the members of our Jewish clergy, who will become Russian Orthodox Priests. Talmud permits them to perform the rituals of other religious keeping intact their Judaism deep inside.”
***I do not agree with this version of the true identity of the house of Judah. But to know who the enemy hates is all necessary in knowing the AntiChrist.***
This is an important read as it is the present reality. It reveals where all the stolen money from the USA has gone and why.
https://fitzinfo.net/new-khazaria/
https://www.biblegateway.com/audio/mcconachie/nasb/1Cor.2
Yeah, sure, Israelites “evolved” into negroes in Africa over a few hundred years. How do people read this and not burst out laughing?
In a sense that is true, though I would state it as “devolved”.
A little while ago there was a controversial comment made here about all South Africans somehow being black. While that’s outside my wheelhouse, I find that it is easy to spot white features in even the ebon-hued negroes stateside.
Looping back to South Africa, erstwhile NFL Quarterback Tim Tebow, famously (((shamed))) for his Christian faith, married a leftist black woman from there. If ever he has kids by her then that’ll be a case of Adamic->Negro in one generation.
The people of Kush devolved into African negroes as well, and the Israelite north African empire of Phoenicia has devolved into arabs. I’m told that arabs are the old world equivalent of mexicans: they’ve negro blood in their veins but they’ll stridently deny it.
A long way to say all it takes is one Israelite becoming an oil driller and suddenly a new line of negros is begat.
bloody vile and malevolent {{{{HAMPSTER WHEEL}}}} at that….
ends in eternal “OVENS OF TRUTH” ! ! ! @ Matthew 13 :39-43.
CURIOUSLY NO ONE ON EARTH “HAS” TO BE A SO-CALLED…. {{{{JEW}}}}} ! ! !
Funny how mainstream Christians believe that the wild olive branch refers to “non-Jews”, and that it means anyone and everyone on the planet who “believes in Jesus”….
If the olive tree has wild branches, then those branches must still be part of the olive tree, and if the olive tree is Israel, then the branches must also refer to other Israelites.
But Christians have been programmed to spiritualize anything in the New Testament that could possibly exclude anyone based on race.
The entire Old Testament is about exclusion based on race of Israel, yet we are somehow expected to believe that entire concept was thrown out in the New Testament? Has any Christian ever read Jeremiah 31:31?
Funny how Christians believe that all “racists” burn in hell – except for Jews/Israelites.
Mike …………….
Great Comment!
Btw …………………. Are you the same “Mike” above — https://christiansfortruth.com/jews-vainly-search-for-the-lost-tribes-of-israel-in-the-third-world/#comment-160726
Great Article! Love these discussions.
Btw ………. the actual quote from Martyr — As, therefore, Christ is the Israel and the Jacob, even so we, who have been quarried out from the bowels of Christ, are the true Israelitic race.
Although I do enjoy the re-translation. It makes more sense.
Great Article, thanks.