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Oregon Lawmakers ‘Visibly Shaken’ By Factual Testimony Questioning the Holocaust

May 11, 2019 By CFT Team -- 17 Comments

A legislative hearing on a largely non-controversial bill to require Holocaust education in Oregon schools took a sharp turn on Wednesday after several people downplayed or denied the Holocaust in their testimony against the measure:

Senate Bill 664 easily passed the Senate in March. The hearing in the House Education Committee was mostly a formality, a necessary step in the legislative process after which the bill would be sent to a vote on the House floor.

But after some 30 minutes of testimony from supporters — including a husband and wife who had survived the Holocaust as children — the tenor of the hearing changed dramatically.

Marlayne Madison called the Holocaust “a tool of division to be exploited.”

“We all know how history evolves,” said Marvin Sandnes. That’s a common argument from those who argue that new information shows the Holocaust either did not happen or that far fewer Jewish people died than the six million who are widely believed to have perished in Nazi concentration camps…

Another person testifying against the bill, Mark DeCoursey of Salem, accused lawmakers of “cherry-picking the lessons from the past to satisfy one political group or one small religious group.”

The debate left some on the committee visibly shaken, and its chair, Rep. Margaret Doherty, D-Tigard, called a recess for members to regroup.

Doherty let everyone who signed up to testify against the measure have their say, with some conditions.

“I’m going to ask you not to read your (written) testimony,” she said to Thomas Madison of Salem, who had submitted his comments in writing before the hearing. In it, Madison claimed that a relatively small number of Jews died in concentration camps, mostly from disease and starvation.

“Some of the things in the testimony are quite offensive to me personally,” said Doherty. “We’re going to give you the opportunity to speak, but I want to have you just very, very briefly summarize what your testimony is.”

That did not sit well with Madison. His voice rising, he said he should be allowed to counter what he called “the exaggerations” of those who feel schoolchildren should be taught about the Nazi genocide.

“I’m offended by it,” said Madison. “This is a public testimony, a place where people come to discuss issues left and right. And you have stopped me from doing so.”

“Yes, I have,” responded Doherty, calmly…

The committee voted 9-0 to send Senate Bill 664 to the House floor. Afterwards, Doherty reflected on the hearing she had just chaired.

The Holocaust does not, nor will it ever, stand up to honest, intellectual inquiry, which is why people like Margaret Doherty won’t even allow the subject to be debated in public.  If public debate were, in fact, allowed, it would give everyone far more confidence that the events unfolded just as we have been told, but when any debate is cut off because it hurts (((certain))) peoples’ feelings, it sends up red flags among sincere people and only serves to undermine any credibility that the pro-Holocaust propagandists rely upon.

But it has become a standard mantra of the Left that, “Your rights end where my feelings begin,” and whenever jewish “feelings” are involved, you can kiss your rights, constitutionally-guaranteed or not, goodbye.  All Holocaust appeals are to your emotions, not your intellect.  The maintenance of the Holocaust accusation against the entire White race, not just the Germans, is essential to ensuring that Jews everywhere remain immune to criticism.  After all, if you had such a powerful “get out of jail free card,” would you voluntarily give it up without a fight?


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  1. shlomo international

    August 2, 2019 at 6:08 am

    muh….6 bazillions…

    Reply
  2. Fakty

    May 16, 2019 at 4:47 am

    Nonsense about anti-Semitism is just a brutal weapon of Jewry to eliminate opponents – anti-Semitism itself is not subject to punishment – it’s the same concept as anti-fascism and anti-Bolshevism! Every normal and healthy mind is an anti-Semite because Jewish culture is a culture of murder and plunder, and no-one can accept a culture based on racial hatred, assassination and plunder – and the Jews do it. Few of the criminals of the world have obtained the status of a victim despite the fact that they culturally and universally spread racism and world terror. Jewry is guided by the Talmud and nothing else, and as a whole presents the ideology of Talmudian racism and chauvinism – that’s why the concept of Jew has a cultural meaning, not a racial one! There is no such thing as anti-Semitism – there is only consciousness awoken in a man before a criminal and a plunderer who is a Jew in cultural terms – everyone awakened from the lethargy of ignorance is a problem for Jews, hence the stench which they throw at us. anti-Semitism – only the mentally ill can tolerate the murderous instinct of a madman – such insane, especially dangerous, people should be interned and isolated from the normal nations of the world. Anti-Semitism alongside the Holocaust and 6 million is one of the three Jewish spells used to plunder the non-Jews, criticism of criminals and criminals of the Jews can not be forbidden, on the contrary it is the duty of a wise and honest man, and there was no holocaust – because Germany did not burn Jews alive in concentration camps, but in particular, there was genocide of native Poles and not Jews. jews victims are just a shadow of Poles’ victims about this in the Nuremberg trials while the Jewish genocide was largely held by the Jews themselves, and finally a magical number of 6 million repeated many times and permanently from the beginning of the 20th century, even in the US press. In all of Europe, there were not even 6 million Jews before World War II due to widespread emigration. That is why now every honest and rational man is brutally and vulgarly by the Jews and their specially created by the State of Israel agenda attacked for revealing this Jewish conspiracy !! Jews are basically never victims. Jews are always criminals; Jews were not even murdered in Auschwitz, which was created in 1940. to murder Poles, who between 1939 and 1946 were killed in a number exceeding 10 million Poles – Jews were transported to the camps only from the middle of 1942. and not to Auschwitz until Birkenau, which was founded in June 1942. The judgment of the Court in 1947 stipulates that around 400,000 people of different nationalities were killed in the whole Auschwitz camp complex together with Birkenau! Polish victims German genocide, Jews adoption as Jewish victim and this is already a Jewish crime on the Polish nation!

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  3. Grandma Caesar

    May 12, 2019 at 8:41 pm

    I used to believe what we were all taught about the holocaust, but a person barely has to scratch the surface to see that three main claims of the holocaust—(1) six million jews were killed, (2) many in gas chambers, (3) genocided by order of Hitler—are not based in fact. You are sitting at a computer with an internet connection. Quit believing the lies of the filthy lying media owners and their minions, and take the time to inform yourself.

    Reply
    • Gina

      May 16, 2019 at 7:58 am

      I received my information from my father. His father was gassed. Did he lie to me?

      Reply
      • Yuri

        May 16, 2019 at 8:12 am

        Yes, your father lied to you, perhaps unwittingly. Nobody was ever “gassed” in any concentration camp. The jewish-controlled media told your father that his father was “gassed”, and your father believe it because he certainly didn’t see his father “gassed” firsthand. How is it that millions of jewish “survivors” know “for a fact” that their relatives were “gassed” if they weren’t there to see it themselves? Short answer: hearsay and rumors repeated as fact.

        Here’s a scientific explanation for why these “gassings” were technically impossible:
        http://nazigassings.com/

        And here’s a film made by the famous jewish documentarian David Cole showing how the “gassings” at Auschwitz could not have happened:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbMdx9m97fA

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      • christine Caudill

        May 19, 2019 at 5:52 pm

        Yes he lied.

        Reply
  4. Pattern_Blind

    May 12, 2019 at 12:45 pm

    Oy Vey! America, the best politicians money can buy!

    Do we Indian Holocaust too? Or the Indians haven’t “paid” enough, blood doesn’t count!

    Reply
    • Ottify

      May 12, 2019 at 5:27 pm

      Right, because the totally peaceful farming communities of the North American Indians were totally unprovoked and relentlessly holocausted because white man is so evil. Just like what we do to our benevolently philanthropic neighbors, the jews…

      Reply
      • Banker

        May 13, 2019 at 1:49 am

        bollox mate, the term savage was used because they were savage, and guess what? jews are hated for their actions.

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        • Ottify

          May 13, 2019 at 1:50 pm

          lol, I was totally agreeing with you – just dripping with sarcasm 😉

          Reply
  5. Marvin Sandnes

    May 12, 2019 at 12:34 pm

    To some events we’re prohibited from applying the social science discipline of History. Questioning changes events over time. Unless, not allowing change serves a purpose. We have so very many events now, that are prohibited from question. YouTube now bans videos that “deny well documented historical events”. Who does the “well documenting”? State media or corporate power does it – this is book burning, censorship, and a violation of America’s 1st Amendment.

    Reply
  6. Schlomo D Fed

    May 12, 2019 at 11:53 am

    ?

    Reply
  7. Flanders

    May 11, 2019 at 9:04 pm

    “261 MILLION DEAD CHRISTIANS IN EUROPE AND RUSSIA”

    “W.W.II reduced the total population of all of Europe by more than 25% or 150 million, from 542 million in 1940 to 392 million in 1950. If the Jewish population in Europe alone had decreased by a similar 25%, or 2.5 million jews, there would have been only 12.8 million Jews worldwide in 1946. If the 1946 almanac is correct, then there were 3 million more Jews than that in 1946 and even more in 1950. This would mean that the Jewish population increased at the same time that the European and Christian populations were decimated….
    —-
    If fewer than 2.5 million Jews died during W.W.II, then they died at a rate lower than all of the rest of Europe. BUT THERE WERE 584,549 MORE JEWS AFTER W.W.II THAN BEFORE.

    Even by 1990, the population of Europe of 501 million was still 7% lower than it was in 1940. But the worldwide population of jews in 1988 was 18.08 million, 85% higher than the 9.8 million whom the holocaust organizers claimed were alive in 1946, and 55% higher than the 11.63 million figure in the 1955 Almanac.

    Isn’t it strange that Americans are so consumed with images of millions of Jews dying in Nazi concentration camps that they are oblivious to 216 million Christians who died?”

    [Scroll halfway down at the link below for the full text of the excerpt above.]

    http://fathersmanifesto.net/holocaust.htm

    Reply
  8. Edieup

    May 11, 2019 at 5:30 pm

    60,000 PRISONERS CHOSE TO GO WEST WITH THE RETREATING GERMAN SS IN JANUARY OF 1945
    When the Russians were about to overrun Auschwitz in January 1945 around 60,000 prisoners which included many tens of thousands of Jews chose to leave Auschwitz and go west with the retreating German SS in January of 1945 — with the very same people who had supposedly been murdering them by the thousands every day for years. How is that possible if Auschwitz had been any kind of “extermination camp.

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  9. Protestant

    May 11, 2019 at 3:49 pm

    I wish someone would ask why there is no requirement for HOLODOMOR education in Oregon schools. Seven years before WW2, Stalin’s Jewish “comrades”, the same tribe of Jewish Bolsheviks who massacred the Russian Royal Family, took away the guns from the Christians of the Ukraine. Then they seized the food, grain, seed corn, tools, farm implements, ploughs, destroyed all the crops & livestock, blocked all food imports and media coverage. They even conducted perverted body searches of children and babies, looking for hidden morsels of bread or seed grain. (Similar to the perverted TSA body searches in modern America, getting people accustomed to gross violation of the 4th Amendment.)

    Why? Because the Christians resisted Stalin’s seizure of their farms for collectivisation. TWELVE MILLION CHRISTIANS STARVED TO DEATH IN ONLY A YEAR. It’s called the HOLODOMOR, and very few westerners have ever heard of it, because it was Jews continuing their relentless, 2000-year-old persecution of Christians. Also called “Culling the Goyim”.

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  10. Genie

    May 11, 2019 at 2:07 pm

    They’ve really over-played their hand with the Holocaust, and in doing so, risk losing all the ground they’ve gained over the goyim. If the Jews were as clever as they think they are, they’d back off the 24/7 Holocaust mantra, that is, unless they can’t help themselves, which is beginning to seem like the case.

    Reply
  11. Ottify

    May 11, 2019 at 11:12 am

    “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.”

    That must only be taught in Christian homes. It sure as hell is as alien as Martians to the jew.

    Reply

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