(Forward) A just-released survey from the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education of over 37,000 students at 159 colleges showed that Jewish students — just like their Bolshevik ancestors and cousins — were far more likely than other students to censor, shut down, and silence — using violence if “necessary” — anyone whose opinion they don’t like:
The data show that one-third of all students think trying to disrupt and shout down speakers when they visit campuses is sometimes or always acceptable. Among Jewish students surveyed, 40% reported feeling this way. As for blocking other students from attending a campus speech and hearing potentially controversial ideas, 13% of students surveyed, and 18% of Jewish students, think this is sometimes or always acceptable. Two-thirds of Jewish students — compared to just about half of students nationally — answered that blocking other students from attending a campus speech is justifiable.
These data suggest that Jewish students are more open to the idea of shutting down speech and the dissemination of ideas than other college students. How are we to understand these troubling findings? Political identity is a good place to start. Like American Jews overall, Jewish college students tend to be Democrats. The data show that 54% of Jewish students surveyed identify as a Democrat, compared to 35% of students surveyed overall. When you include self-identifying Independents who lean Democratic, 67% of Jewish college students fall into the Democratic column compared to a lower national figure of 55%.
In this survey, identifying as a Democrat strongly correlates with espousing anti-free speech positions.
The data show that 81% of Democratic identifying Jewish students believe that there are cases when shouting down speakers is acceptable, compared to a much lower 59% of Jewish political independents and leaners and just 44% of Republicans. Similarly, almost 60% of college Jewish Democrats maintain that blocking their peers from hearing the ideas of others can be justified, while slightly more than a third of Jewish Independents and leaners and a quarter of Jewish Republicans feel the same way.
Most troublingly, 27% of Democratic students surveyed responded that it is acceptable to use violence to stop a campus speech, though the number is 22% for Jewish Independents and leaners and 17% for Jewish Republicans.
This data is deeply upsetting to me as a professor who has watched collegiate life change drastically over the past two decades. One of the great values of an American collegiate experience is that students have the chance to engage deeply with differing opinions. To this day, I am grateful for the cornucopia of people, traditions, views and cultures that I was able to engage with two decades ago when I, then a fairly conservative Jewish teenager, left the East Coast to attend Stanford University….
..Today, cancel culture runs rampant on our college campuses, and viewpoint diversity is no longer considered a sacred, core value in higher education — and Jewish students seem to be helping lead the charge to silence others, missing out on genuine opportunities to learn, grow and connect. Perhaps many Jewish students think that they occupy a noble place on the front lines of cancel culture in the spirit of social justice. But these progressive and woke impulses are misguided and ignore another equally important Jewish precept — real discourse which involves learning, listening and debate.
Discourse is so prized and cherished in Jewish thought and history that Judaism has sometimes been called a “culture of argument.” Jewish students — and all students for that matter — must recognize that true equity and inclusion must include viewpoint diversity, respect for real and meaningful political differences and outlooks and embracing a multitude of ideas — even if they make some members of the community uncomfortable.
Social justice values are certainly important, and a big part of Jewish thought. But they do not override the virtues of argument and respecting viewpoint diversity. Both the Jewish community and our system of higher education have long embraced the idea that a competition of ideas is foundational to free and prosperous societies. The Jewish community cannot lose sight of one of our unique and virtuous features. Instead of leading the charge to silence speech, our students should be doing just the opposite, demanding more speech and more ideas, not enforcing a culture of silence and cancellation.
The time-honored Jewish tradition of debate applies only to Jews when they are arguing among themselves — and their “holy” book the Talmud is an example of that.
This tradition of debate abruptly stops when Jews have to respectfully listen to non-Jews who hold ideas that Jews perceive as hostile or threatening to them.
They have been conditioned to believe that disagreement with the goyim will ultimately lead to pogroms and Gas Chambers™.
Jewish children are raised to believe that the non-Jewish world is “out to get them” — paranoia and neurosis are acceptable and even revered Jewish personality traits — the same traits among non-Jews would put them in a mental hospital.
A truism that’s risen to the status of a proverb is that Jews love free speech until their are in power — at which point they label free speech as “hate speech” to “incite” violence against the Jews now in power.
When the Bolshevik Jews took over Russia, freedom of speech suddenly evaporated — and millions of people were literally sent to their deaths for saying things that the Jews commissars didn’t like.
We see the same pattern developing today — as Jews have achieved unrivaled power in America, they have started to openly advocate for repressive laws to curtail all forms of “extremist” speech they don’t like.
And if they get their way, they will bring back the death penalty for antisemitism — and an antisemite isn’t merely someone who doesn’t like Jews — an antisemite is someone the Jews don’t like because of the “hateful” opinions they hold — no one is beyond their obsessive surveillance.
Ann T. Zemitik
I’m shocked that the group of parasites that do nothing but start all the wars while simultaneously doing almost NONE of the actual fighting in said wars (jews = .2% of military – as in tenths of a percent) would have no reverence for our Constitution or the men that gave their lives fighting for the rights detailed within. #BeatThemOut
David
Jewish Rabbi Destroy the White Race..
https://www.goyimtv.tv/v/1303319126/Jewish-Rabbi-Destroy-the-White-Race–
David
Blade Runner actress (Sean Young) talks about Jews and mind control.
https://www.goyimtv.tv/v/2274886337/Blade-Runner-actress–Sean-Young–talks-about-Jews-and-mind-control-
goylent green
I suppose lil’ Bush was correct when he said that the people who did 9/11 “hate us for our freedom.” The jew also hates antiparasitics like quinine and ivermectin, which isn’t really relevant to this discussion but deliciously ironic nevertheless.
Grass
Diodorus Siculus writes a about the Ethiopians and he makes special mention of the blacks over and above the main portion of Ethiopians who were not black: https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Diodorus_Siculus/3A*.html
Blacks have obviously always been uncivilized. They are incapable of forming their own civilization. They didn’t even have a form of writing. Even Asians invented writing. Now we are supposed to believe blacks as early as Moses’ time could produce civilization? When blacks prove time and time again they simply don’t have the mental capacity for it? Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in a complete fantasy land like Wakanda. Sorry, but it’s really as simple as that. With every advantage afforded to them, they repeatedly prove this today. If anyone tells you otherwise, they’re gaslighting you.
Ted Bruckner wrote, “Beyond all the ancient Egyptian painted-in-color depictions and statues of Nubians and even their own Egyptian kings many who are obviously “black,””
Well no, far from it. One can’t just say that and have everyone expect it to be true, unless your audience already wanted it to be true. There are various periods of Egyptian history (Old Kingdom, Middle Kingdom, etc), all of which have different perceptions and contexts along with stylized artistry often based on their religious systems. Sometimes people were depicted with blue, yellow or snow white skin, which makes no sense at all in a “racial” context. To them something like black skin could easily have depicted death, disease, or something along that line.
In modern times our minds have been violated and seared to see “race” in absolutely everything, so we project that on ancient Egyptians in an incredibly reductive way. To make things worse, we’re talking about interpreting the artwork of a civilization from THOUSANDS of years ago… If anyone tells you anything was “obvious” when looking at Egyptian artwork, they obviously have a serious agenda or have no idea what they’re saying (or both).
In your assessment of the flood story, you’re assuming that all “races” must have come from Noah. You can’t read a story of the Bible already having taken for granted that it must somehow explain where “races” came from. Instead, you must prove where in the Bible where “races” come from. You won’t be able to though, because it’s just not there.
Joseph’s brothers (Shemites) couldn’t tell that the Egyptian (Hamites) ruler they were speaking to (Joseph, also a Shemite) was one of their own “race”. Also according to Josephus in Antiquities chapter 12, book 5, section 1, the Israelites (Shemites) tried to hide their circumcision so they could look like Greeks (Japhethites). Or according to 1 Maccabees 12:21-23 and Antiquities book 13, chapter 4, section 10, the Spartans and the Israelites both came from Abraham. One thing is for sure: They were all the same “race”. If they looked like Greeks, then that “race” was the white “race”. If Hamites, Shemites and Japhethites were all white, then Noah was white. If Noah was white, then Adam and Eve were white.
Even further to that, you’ve got to explain how bushmen/Koisan in southern Africa or Abos in Australia all came from Noah. It’s unconscionable.
Ted Bruckner wrote, “Some of the people who have had dreams and visions and encounters with Lord Yeshua (Jesus) and do say what His face looks like say he looks Semitic not Arian/White.”
Yes, and some stigmatic nun from Kenya took a photo of Jesus with her camera and He was white. Other people swear they’ve been probed by aliens.
Dave
Chief rabbi calls black people ‘monkeys’
https://www.timesofisrael.com/chief-rabbi-compares-african-americans-to-monkeys/
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/netanyahu-openly-boasts-of-israels-war-on-africans.471591/
“…if you really are serious when you talk of Jewish plots, may I not direct your attention to one worth talking about?… You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great War but of nearly all your Wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it…” -Marcus Eli Ravage Jewish Writer and Rothschild Biographer, The Century Magazine, A Real Case Against the Jews, 1928 p.347
52% of Israeli Jews agree: African migrants are ‘a cancer’
https://www.timesofisrael.com/most-israeli-jews-agree-africans-are-a-cancer/
https://nationalvanguard.org/2016/04/jews-and-slavery-three-books-by-the-nation-of-islam/
SPLC and ADL maggots
Most jews do not really like blacks. Don’t want to live around them. Don’t want their kids in school with them. And so on. They only like blacks to use as battering rams against the gates of our Caucasian castle.
Dave
FORMER BRITISH MINISTER: ‘THE ISRAELIS THINK THEY CONTROL THE FOREIGN OFFICE. AND THEY DO! ……
https://zaidpub.com/2021/06/06/former-british-minister-the-israelis-think-they-control-the-foreign-office-and-they-do/ …….
The War on Truth: How Israel’s social media trolls conquered Facebook. …..
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20191020-the-war-on-truth-how-israels-social-media-trolls-conquered-facebook/ …..
Here’s how to deal with extremist pro-Israeli trolls on social media. ….
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2019/06/17/heres-how-to-deal-with-extremist-pro-israeli-trolls-on-social-media/ ……
israel’s war on truth – paid shills and trolls underneath your comments ….
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/israel-039-s-war-on-truth-paid-shills-and-trolls-underneath-your-comments_jgoAKQPkvwy3tCC.html ……
Inside Israel’s million dollar troll army …..
https://electronicintifada.net/content/inside-israels-million-dollar-troll-army/27566
Davr
FREEMASONS WORSHIP LUCIFER.
THE JEWISH TRIBUNE, New York, Oct. 28, 1927, Cheshvan 2, 5688, Vol. 91, No. 18: “Masonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic ritual and what is left?”
LA VERITE ISRAELITE, Jewish paper 1861, IV, page 74: “The spirit of Freemasonry is the spirit of Judaism in its most fundamental beliefs; it is its ideas, its language, it is mostly its organization, the hopes which enlighten and support Israel. It’s crowning will be that wonderful prayer house of which Jerusalem will be the triumphal centre and symbol.”
LE SYMBOLISM, July, 1928: “The most important duty of the Freemason must be to glorify the Jewish Race, which has preserved the unchanged divine standard of wisdom. You must rely upon the Jewish race to dissolve all frontiers.”
AN ENCYCLOPEDIA OF FREEMASONRY, Philadelphia, 1906: “Each Lodge is and must be a symbol of the Jewish temple; each Master in the Chair, a representative of the Jewish King; and every Mason a personification of the Jewish workman.”
MANUAL OF FREEMASONRY, by Richard Carlile: “The Grand Lodge Masonry of the present day is wholly Jewish.”
THE FREEMASON, April 2, 1930, quoting Br. Rev. S. McGowan: “Freemasonry is founded on the ancient law of Israel. Israel has given birth to the moral beauty which forms the basis of Freemasonry.”
Rabbi Br. Isaac Wise, in The Israelite of America, March 8, 1866: “Masonry is a Jewish institution whose history, degrees, charges, passwords and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end.”
Benjamin Disraeli, Jew, Prime Minister of England, in The Life of Lord George Bentick: “At the head of all those secret societies, which form provisional governments, men of the Jewish race are to be found.”
http://www.jewworldorder.org/freemasons-worship-lucifer/
Dave
Rothschild’s 25 Point Plan For World Domination – Nationalist Truth / New World Order Satanic Truth: Videos
January 7, 2012 by admin
Rothschild’s 25 Point Plan For World Domination
“In 1770, Mayer Amschel Rothschild married Gutta Schnapper. In that same year, he retained Jewish-born, Adam Weishaupt, an apostate Jesuit-trained professor of canon law, to revise and modernize Illuminism, the worship of Satan, with the objective of world domination and the imposition of the Luciferian ideology “upon what would remain of the human race” after a final orchestrated social-cataclysm. In 1773, Mayer summoned twelve wealthy men to Frankfort and asked them to pool their resources, then presented the 25-point plan that would enable them to gain control of the wealth, natural resources and manpower of the entire world.
Those 25 points are:
1. Use violence and terrorism rather than academic discussions.
2. Preach “Liberalism” to usurp political power.
3. Initiate class warfare.
4. Politicians must be cunning and deceptive – any moral code leaves a politician vulnerable.
5. Dismantle “existing forces of order and regulation.” Reconstruct all existing institutions.”
6. Remain invisible until the very moment when it has gained such strength that no cunning or force can undermine it.
7. Use Mob Psychology to control the masses. “Without absolute despotism one cannot rule efficiently.”
8. Advocate the use of alcoholic liquors, drugs, moral corruption and all forms of vice, used systematically by “agenteurs” to corrupt the youth.
9. Seize properties by any means to secure submission and sovereignty.
10. Foment wars and control the peace conferences so that neither of the combatants gains territory placing them further in debt and therefore into our power.
11. Choose candidates for public office who will be “servile and obedient to our commands, so they may be readily used as pawns in our game.”
12. Use the Press for propaganda to control all outlets of public information, while remaining in the shadows, clear of blame.
13. Make the masses believe they had been the prey of criminals. Then restore order to appear as the saviors.
14. Create financial panics. Use hunger to control to subjugate the masses.
15. Infiltrate Freemasonry to take advantage of the Grand Orient Lodges to cloak the true nature of their work in philanthropy. Spread their atheistic-materialistic ideology amongst the “Goyim” (gentiles).
16. When the hour strikes for our sovereign lord of the entire World to be crowned, their influence will banish everything that might stand in his way.
17. Use systematic deception, high-sounding phrases and popular slogans. “The opposite of what has been promised can always be done afterwards… That is of no consequence.”
18. A Reign of Terror is the most economical way to bring about speedy subjection.
19. Masquerade as political, financial and economic advisers to carry out our mandates with Diplomacy and without fear of exposing “the secret power behind national and international affairs.”
20. Ultimate world government is the goal. It will be necessary to establish huge monopolies, so even the largest fortunes of the Goyim will depend on us to such an extent that they will go to the bottom together with the credit of their governments on the day after the great political smash.”
21. Use economic warfare. Rob the “Goyim” of their landed properties and industries with a combination of high taxes and unfair competition.
22. “Make the ‘Goyim’ destroy each other so there will only be the proletariat left in the world, with a few millionaires devoted to our cause, and sufficient police and soldiers to protect our interest.”
23. Call it The New Order. Appoint a Dictator.
24. Fool, bemuse and corrupt the younger members of society by teaching them theories and principles we know to be false.
25 Twist national and international laws into a contradiction which first masks the law and afterwards hides it altogether. Substitute arbitration for law.”
spingola.com/before_rockefeller.htm#_edn5
truedemocracyparty.net/2012/01/rothschilds-25-point-plan-for-world-domination-nationalist-truth/
Shlomo Bergsteinowitz
Just went to that FIRE–Foundation for Individual Rights in Education–site that did the college survey bout Jews & free speech.
Guess it shouldn’t be a surprise that “DePauw University has the lowest overall score on the Free Speech Rankings for the second year in a row,” the same university that denied tenure–basically firing a professor–to Norman Finklestein, who wrote that great book bout the holocaust being used as a cash cow.
Shlomo Bergsteinowitz
“How are we to understand these troubling findings? ”
Troubling? Par for the course for those so deluded, they think they’ve been chosen by some G-d to rule over us livestock, AKA Goyim.
In the past, 109 nations understood the dangers Juden posed, both to their freedoms & their financial system, poisoned by usurious loans & took appropriate action.
Jews have managed to get those noxious ‘Hate Speech’ laws passed in around 30 US states, which they use to shut down those who seek truths, since truth is usually anti-Semitic, if you’re a Khazar.
Students should get their minds opened at college, hearing ideas that challenge their conventional opinion, but now they’re not only getting shut out that type of discussion, the Bolsheviks have taken over the colleges & turned them into brainwashing factories for Communism & Holocaustism.
UVW
CFT: (quoting Jewish website, forward.com): “These data suggest that Jewish students are more open to the idea of shutting down speech and the dissemination of ideas than other college students. … Most troublingly, 27% of Democratic students surveyed responded that it is acceptable to use violence to stop a campus speech, …” (CFT continuing): “And if they get their way, they will bring back the death penalty for antisemitism — and an antisemite isn’t merely someone who doesn’t like Jews — an antisemite is someone the Jews don’t like because of the ‘hateful’ opinions they hold — no one is beyond their obsessive surveillance.”
I think these students do not realize, they are but cannon fodder. When their purpose has been served, they except for may be a few select will most likely be liquidated. Since they revolted against the old system, could they be trusted with the new without revolting? Remember in 2020, the Hasidic Jewish community in New York City protested the oppressive Covid lockdowns?
https://www.newsflare.com/video/384446/orthodox-jews-protest-against-covid-19-restrictions-wave-trump-campaign-flags
Protests against new COVID-19 restrictions continued in Brooklyn, New York on Wednesday (October 7[,2020]). “Members of the Orthodox Jewish community gathered on Brooklyn’s 13th Avenue for the second night in a row to protest against Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo’s new coronavirus restrictions on schools, businesses and places of worship.”
A lot of good that did, those who could afford to ended up leaving NYC. Henry Makow explains this disparity between the lesser and greater in:
https://www.henrymakow.com/091202.html
He states, “There is an unrecognized schism in the Jewish people, where heretics (Sabbateans) ‘have exterminated the mainstream’ https://www.henrymakow.com/were_illuminati_jews_responsib.html and taken control of the remnant through Zionism and Communism. Yet, due to the anti Semitism organized by them, Jews mistakenly cling to their leadership. They are being crucified like everyone else.”
There is a greater reason why Christians contrary to the world system help if opportunity presents itself and should be prepared to share the Good News with meekness with opportunity. A remnant of these will accept Christ, in spite of all the current background noise and threats. Romans 1:16
Christ Is King
Sorry mate, you lost me with your last paragraph…
“There is a greater reason why Christians contrary to the world system help if opportunity presents itself and should be prepared to share the Good News with meekness with opportunity. A remnant of these will accept Christ, in spite of all the current background noise and threats. Romans 1:16”
Who are you sugesting Xtians share the gospel with? Jews?
UVW
Of course, did you not read, Romans 1:16 – “For I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, for it is the power for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first, and also the Greek.”?
Be realistic. I suggest not that you go in front of a crowd of them and try to confront them, (nor would I suggest such even in front of Gentiles). But, would you be willing if the Holy Spirit urged to share, to quietly with a single individual on a bus, in a cafe, whilst awaiting transportation, and etc.? (and this includes with a Gentile).
I have found that after about 5 to 10 minutes of conversation, most realize that you are human just like they and let their guards down. A simple question, “are you a Christian?”, usually opens the door, followed with, “may I share with you how I became a Christian?” If they are willing to listen, fine, if not, then you are under no obligation to continue. G-d has called us to peace. Isaiah 26:3
It is during times of stress, with people seeking for hope and relief, that lend themselves to the most opportune time to share. Things are not what they appear to be, which we have been falsely conditioned to believe.
CHRIST IS KING
I’m going to be polite here… I have read Romans. Have you understood the difference between the Jews( Judeans) Paul is writing about, and who the jews of today are?
There is no way I am going to share the gospel with anyone other than a White man or woman.
And seeing as you mentioned it: there is no such thing as a HUMAN. Genesis says there is MAN and ANIMAL/BEAST Adam was a MAN and he was White. So if you are White you are part of MANKIND. If you’re not White you’re an ANIMAL/BEAST. there is no Humankind! The gospel is not to be shared with beasts.
Ted Bruckner
if you were right then Acts 8:27-40 wouldn’t be in the sacred Scripture; i.e., the Holy Spirit wouldn’t have directed St. Philip to go to engage with an Ethiopian proselyte to Judaism whom Phillip baptised.
CFT
Ted, it’s a common error among Christians — and others, too — to assume that Ethiopia has always been occupied by blacks, but that’s simply not the case. Take some time to look into the true — and often hidden — history of the Kushite Kingdom, and you will find that Philip’s encounter with the Ethiopian isn’t what it appears to be through modern eyes:
https://christiansfortruth.com/pyramids-of-the-ancient-aryan-kingdom-of-kush-ethiopia-and-sudan/
Ted Bruckner
That video of the transcript you had on the link only looks at one picture in stone which to me, (besides granted there are a few other anomalies namely from the city of Meroe : a statute of a man and woman possibly a king and queen who look “white”), doesn’t mean much in light of the rest of the evidence which is clear that the kingdom of Kush, (Ham’s son), (also anciently named the kingdom of Nubia), was “black.”
Homer began calling the land of “Kush” “Ethiopia.” Αἰθίοψ (Aἰthiops) in Acts 8:27 ; (also found in the Septuagint Numbers 12:1 Αἰθιοπίσσης (aἰthiopisses). The Greek word means literally “(i) burn(t) + face; complexion.”
Beyond all the ancient Egyptian painted-in-color depictions and statues of Nubians and even their own Egyptian kings many who are obviously “black,” Noah possibly could be what we call “black” today, after all two of his sons were what we could call “black”, one being Ham and the other being Shem i do believe. Then you have his wife, i mention the parents because the only way “ white” person can produce a child of color is one of them had to be of color or both. That is if you believe the bible to be historically accurate, there is no other way of understanding the story of the flood. Then you have to go onto to Nimrod son of Cush, grandson of Ham ( progenitor of the “black” race), then you have Noah’s sons all would have to be “black” if you believe in what the bible says.
Some of the people who have had dreams and visions and encounters with Lord Yeshua (Jesus) and do say what His face looks like say he looks Semitic not Arian/White.
God Bless.
Grass
The Greek historian Diodorus Siculus writes about the Ethiopians and he makes special mention of the blacks over and above the main portion of Ethiopians who were not black: https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Diodorus_Siculus/3A*.html
Blacks have obviously always been uncivilized. They are incapable of forming their own civilization. They didn’t even have a form of writing. Even Asians invented writing. Now we are supposed to believe blacks as early as Moses’ time could produce civilization? When blacks prove time and time again they simply don’t have the mental capacity for it? Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in a complete fantasy land like Wakanda. Sorry, but it’s really as simple as that. With every advantage afforded to them, they repeatedly prove this today. If anyone tells you otherwise, they’re gaslighting you.
Ted Bruckner wrote, “Beyond all the ancient Egyptian painted-in-color depictions and statues of Nubians and even their own Egyptian kings many who are obviously “black,””
Well no, far from it. One can’t just say that and have everyone expect it to be true, unless your audience already wanted it to be true. There are various periods of Egyptian history (Old Kingdom, Middle Kingdom, etc), all of which have different perceptions and contexts along with stylized artistry often based on their religious systems. Sometimes people were depicted with blue, yellow or snow white skin, which makes no sense at all in a “racial” context. To them something like black skin could easily have depicted death, disease, or something along that line.
In modern times our minds have been violated and seared to see “race” in absolutely everything, so we project that on ancient Egyptians in an incredibly reductive way. To make things worse, we’re talking about interpreting the artwork of a civilization from THOUSANDS of years ago… If anyone tells you anything was “obvious” when looking at Egyptian artwork, they obviously have a serious agenda or have no idea what they’re saying (or both).
In your assessment of the flood story, you’re assuming that all “races” must have come from Noah. You can’t read a story of the Bible already having taken for granted that it must somehow explain where “races” came from. Instead, you must prove where in the Bible where “races” come from. You won’t be able to though, because it’s just not there.
Joseph’s brothers (Shemites) couldn’t tell that the Egyptian (Hamites) ruler they were speaking to (Joseph, also a Shemite) was one of their own “race”. Also according to Josephus in Antiquities chapter 12, book 5, section 1, the Israelites (Shemites) tried to hide their circumcision so they could look like Greeks (Japhethites). Or according to 1 Maccabees 12:21-23 and Antiquities book 13, chapter 4, section 10, the Spartans and the Israelites both came from Abraham. One thing is for sure: They were all the same “race”. If they looked like Greeks, then that “race” was the white “race”. If Hamites, Shemites and Japhethites were all white, then Noah was white. If Noah was white, then Adam and Eve were white.
Even further to that, you’ve got to explain how bushmen/Koisan in southern Africa or Abos in Australia all came from Noah. It’s unconscionable.
Ted Bruckner wrote, “Some of the people who have had dreams and visions and encounters with Lord Yeshua (Jesus) and do say what His face looks like say he looks Semitic not Arian/White.”
Yes, and some stigmatic nun from Kenya took a photo of Jesus with her camera and He was white. Other people swear they’ve been probed by aliens.
UVW
C.I.K. wrote: “I’m going to be polite here… I have read Romans. Have you understood the difference between the Jews( Judeans) Paul is writing about, and who the jews of today are?”
I am not sure of the need to imply that I was somehow being impolite. Basically, if you were to consider them to be proselytes, then they would be the latter, but still the power of the Gospel applies according to that verse. Call them Gentiles if you care. And yes, I know who is being referred, substantiated through authors such as Koestler.
My point is some will come to Christ, such as Benjamin Freedman and Nathaneal Kapner.
C.I.K. wrote: “There is no way I am going to share the gospel with anyone other than a White man or woman.”
That is your choice, but I am thinking you are missing out on the joy that causes the angels to rejoice at every soul that receives Christ, no matter the pigmentation of their skin. For example, there are many Maori believers, Tongans, Fijians, Hawaiians, Australian Aboriginals, Navajos, Filipinos, Malaysians, even among the Blacks. Personally, I don’t limit myself.
C.I.K. wrote: “And seeing as you mentioned it: there is no such thing as a HUMAN. Genesis says there is MAN and ANIMAL/BEAST Adam was a MAN and he was White. So if you are White you are part of MANKIND. If you’re not White you’re an ANIMAL/BEAST. there is no Humankind! The gospel is not to be shared with beasts.”
In other places, I have mentioned that there is only one race, the human race. I hope you see that what you state could also be interpreted to be very Talmudic, where all else are but cattle, and only one race being G-d chosen. I do not see the love of Christ being portrayed this way.
I gather that there will be some soulless beings. I see the Anti-Christ and his prophet being such, because according to Apocalypse (Revelation) 20:10 (World English Bible) – “The devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulphur, where the beast and the false prophet are also. They will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”
That precedes the white throne judgment where all the rest are judged. With current cloning efforts, it would not surprise me that just like Dolly the lamb, a human being is cloned. But the fact that they have not undergone birth as G-d intended, with the egg of a woman and sperm of a man into a body of a woman, this is a life form not from G-d. So, it is conceivable that such a being would be a haven for demon possession.
But, going back to topic, I remember the Vietnam War protests, which I gather was tribally initiated, but carried out by Gentiles, there are many from both sides who were antagonistic toward the Gospel. Yet G-d opens doors, such as was the case of Paul (who was an extremist). If they are cold, there is hope (Apocalypse 3:15,16).
Grass
UVW, you presume your own ideas of race into everything you say. You’re not even bothering to acknowledge that CIK might have some very real and legitimate motivation for believing that non-whites are not from Adam and Eve. You’re just virtue-signaling at him while ignoring everything he’s actually said.
That’s probably exactly why he made the comment about being polite… Because you were being impolite by not acknowledging his own fundamental assumptions. Being polite isn’t simply “talking nicely” to someone.
If virtue-signaling is what you’re trying to do them by all means, go ahead. If you’re trying to convince CIK of something, then you need to acknowledge his own reasoning instead of repeatedly trying to apply your own reasoning to his views.
“I do not see the love of Christ being portrayed this way.”
Okay, I don’t see the love of Christ being portrayed in your views either. All I see in you is a self-serving, self-loving greed, which swallowed the lie of “race” hook, line and sinker, all so you could feel a fleshly “joy” in your physical body while proselytizing to animals. See how easily it can be turned around when I refuse to acknowledge your own fundamental assumptions?
The only recourse and way for the conversation forward is to actually discuss the matter of race, rather than presuming our own version of what “race” is. This very website has given many arguments on “race”, but you haven’t even acknowledged them in what you’ve been saying to CIK.
“In other places, I have mentioned that there is only one race, the human race. I hope you see that what you state could also be interpreted to be very Talmudic, where all else are but cattle, and only one race being G-d chosen.
And? Talmudism is a mode of thinking… A mental illness which seeks to circumvent the words of the Bible and God’s “invisible attributes, that is, His eternal power and divine nature, [which] have been clearly perceived” (Romans 1:20). The Jews fault was to believe their mongrelized and misbegotten kind are the chosen instead of the cattle… Not that there are chosen and cattle in the first place.
Jas
UVW wrote “I hope you see that what you state could also be interpreted to be very Talmudic…”
Please understand that Talmudic Jews are not Israelites. What they have done is taken certain truths from the Old Testament, such as Adamic and non-Adamic peoples, and given it their own spin, claiming Jews are the only “humans” while every other “gentile” is an animal or “cattle”. The ultimate irony is that today’s Jews are non-Adamic. By 200AD, they had begun race mixing with non-Adamic peoples and broke destroyed their identity as Israelites, as “Judah”. The proof is that they define “Jewish” identity through the mother, not the father as true Israelites would.
And please explain why you think being non-Adamic is such a bad thing. The Bible was written by and for the generations of Adam. Before non-Adamic peoples ever heard of the Bible they had their own gods and beliefs that gave them comfort. Why tell them that those gods are wrong for them, and try to impose the God of the Bible on them when it was never intended for them? What good does that do them?
Is it such an irrational idea that one group of people would have a God that is unique to them? Do you think that white people are allowed to have their own countries for themselves or is that immoral? Likewise, can white people have their own God, or are we obligated to insist that He has to be the God of everyone and save everyone?