In this sermon Sheldon Emry addresses some of the dishonest and hypocritical arguments which those who oppose or outright reject the idea that the living descendants of the ancient Israelites can be found among the Anglo-Saxons and related European peoples.
While we may disagree with Emry’s position that all people of Anglo-Saxon descent are genetic Israelites, we most certainly can agree that these people are most assuredly the living embodiment of Israel.
Sheldon Emry begins:
I have a 40-page book here titled, “Anglo-Israelism: Refuse The Refuse,” written by an opponent of the teaching that the Anglo-Saxon people are Israel, and I am going to read some things from it, and then we will answer them in relation to the Bible and history.
The book begins by saying the teaching that the Anglo-Saxon people are Israel is actually “refuse”, and he does that by quoting part of verses of from the third chapter of Philippians. He writes,
Refuse is the most fitting term Paul could find for all his undoubted physical advantages. We, he said, are the circumcision, offering divine service, God in spirit, and are glorying in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.” He goes on, “And even I have confidence in the flesh also. The other one assuming to have confidence in the flesh, I rather. Circumcised of the eighth day, the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews, but what things were gained to me, which I have deemed forfeit because of Christ? And I am deeming it to be refuse that I may be gaining Christ.
That’s the end of his quote, but you can see that he skipped quite a bit, and part of what he skipped is in verse 8. He quoted the last part, but he didn’t quote all of it. Here it is in the King James:
8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ
In other words, what Paul is actually calling “dung” is not his Israelite ancestry but rather the things he has lost. What did Paul lose? He did not lose his Benjamite forefathers. He did not lose the knowledge that he was of the Israel race. What he lost was his position and standing in the apostate anti-Christ synagogue church of his day.
This writer has very cleverly quoted Paul talking about his ancestry and saying, “If I wanted to glory in the flesh, I could.” Then Paul refers to having lost some things. This man skips that part of the verse that says, “for whom I have suffered the loss of all things.”
If you read this in its full context, Paul is talking about the things he lost of the world which he was glad to lose — they were refuse. To say that Paul counted Israelite ancestry as nothing is saying this of a man who wrote to the Hebrews an entire letter to tell them how Christ has taken on himself the seed of Abraham to make reconciliation for the Israel people.
Paul is the same man who wrote to the Romans and said this about the Israelites — this man spends several pages saying that any knowledge of ancestry of any people in Israel is “dung” and “refuse” and is not to be considered — this is the same Paul who wrote in Romans 9, speaking of his brethren, verse 3:
3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: 4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises.
All these great and glorious things in scripture — Paul says they belong to the Israelites. Yet this man claims anyone who says they are an Israelite, well, that’s “refuse” and that’s “dung”. Paul goes on:
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
Paul said Christ came to the Israelites. Jesus Christ said that twice according to the gospels. He said, “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the House of Israel.” And yet this man says that those of us who preach the Anglo-Saxons have some special place in the plan of God because they are Israel, we are preaching “refuse” and “dung”.
The writer of this article continues and says he was interested in this Israelite identity doctrine and read many things on Anglo-Israelism, devoured all the books he could find, but he says, he read the Bible and, quote,
“I saw no advantage in being an Israelite for I had lost all standing in the flesh by crucifixion with Christ, and now my all was in him. I no longer desired an earthly citizenship for I had found a celestial.”
Then he goes on and claimed that one of the reasons Anglo-Israelism is wrong — he says this — essentially Anglo-Israel has three features of the apostasy: that it is terrestrial — that it is an enemy of the cross — and it has confidence in the flesh. And then he says one of the marks of apostasy is the teaching of “earthly things”.
John must have been an apostate when he wrote the Book of Revelation then because John wrote that the four and twenty elders who sang praises to God in John’s vision in the fifth chapter, saying this to the great God Almighty,
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
This man says that to have anything to do with the earth or earthly things is apostasy. He says being terrestrial is being part of the great apostasy. The teaching of the Bible is that Jesus Christ is going to return to earth and set up a kingdom here on the earth — and this man calls this “dung” and an apostasy.
Using that same interpretation, Abraham, Issac, Jacob, and Sarah must have all been apostates for Paul wrote of them in Hebrews 11:
13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
And the next verse tells what they looked forward to:
14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
What did Abraham look for? A country, and in Romans 4:13, Paul calls Abraham “heir of the world”:
For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
Yet here our opponents of Israelite identity — they say because we teach so much about the world that we are apostates. That we are minding fleshly and earthly things — and our teaching is “dung”.
Following his “reasoning” — the Lord Jesus Christ must have also been an apostate because he taught of the earth — in Matthew 13, the parable of the tares and the wheat where Jesus Christ said,
24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field
Then he gave the parable and interpreted it, including verse 38:
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
The “field is the world.” How anyone can read Christ’s parables and not understand that the kingdom of which he spoke is on the earth is beyond me. And how any man can read that and say that those of us who preach the kingdom of God upon the earth is apostate and we are teaching “dung” is far beyond the bounds of reason.
He says this of Anglo-Israelism,
“It opposes the great truth of the crucifixion, and not only was Christ crucified on Golgotha, but that the world that crucified him is utterly at enmity with God. It gives the Israelite a superior position on no other ground than his physical descent.”
In other words, he is saying that we, in effect, who teach that the Anglo-Saxons are Israel are teaching salvation by race.
I defy you to show me or give me the writings of any man who teaches that the Anglo-Saxon people are Israel but that that same man recognizes that the prophecies and the fulfillment of the prophecies to Israel are coming to pass only because of the shed blood of Jesus Christ. We — of all people — are those who teach the full gospel of Jesus Christ. Paul spoke of this in Romans 15, when he wrote,
8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers
In the Old Testament, Jesus Christ is spoken of as the minister of the covenant. Malachi writes of him that way, as does Daniel. To whom did Christ come? He came for Israel to confirm the promises made the fathers. And what were those promises? Those promises were that God would redeem Israel to himself and set up a kingdom of justice and righteousness upon the earth. And those of us that teach that and believe that — this man has the audacity to call us apostates, claiming we are teaching “earthly” things.
The apostles had only one question — after Jesus Christ taught them for forty days. Acts 1 is the story of what Jesus Christ did after his resurrection and before his ascension:
3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God
Then as he was preparing to go, we read,
6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
According to the rationalizing of this man, these Israelite disciples must have been preaching “dung” and believing in “refuse” because they believed that Christ was going to restore the kingdom to the House of Israel. Christ did not rebuke them for believing the wrong thing — all that Christ said was
7 …It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Any rational man would assume Christ was saying “What you ask is correct, but I cannot tell you the time when it will be done.” Yet these opponents of our Israelite identity imply that we are apostates — we teach that kingdom of God upon the earth and Israel will have a special place in the kingdom.
And then he goes on, “It is no advantage whatever to be an Israelite today. In practical effect, it is an immense hindrance for it breeds fleshly pride and national hypocrisy and distorts the scriptures to drag God’s grace in the dust. It is earthly, foolish, and counter to the cross so that they glory in their fame.”
I know hundreds of good Christian people who know they are the Israel of God by birth, and I defy you to find a better, more humble group of Christians in the world today. And that we are Israel, and Christ died for us, was resurrected from the dead to fulfill the prophecies given to our fathers — to Abraham, Issac, and Jacob — is one of the most humbling pieces of information you can have taught to you. And yet these fools tell us that all this teaches “fleshly pride”. No, if you want to know a humble Christian, talk to one who knows he is a true son of the House of Israel and the redeemed of the great God Almighty through the blood of Jesus Christ.
This writer goes on,
“Those who contend for Anglo-Israelism are not all agreed. Indeed, there are irreconcilable differences between what many call the evangelicals and the others….It is enough to know that even if the nations of Europe, America, and their connected colonies are the Lost Ten Tribes, that this is no advantage in this era of God’s grace and can be held and heralded only if we forfeit our place in Christ.”
In other words, he is saying that even if it’s true, we can only tell it if we forfeit our place in Christ. What nonsense. Are you telling me that if someone has a biblical truth — and he preaches it — that he’ll lose his place in Christ?
This is a strange statement for this man to make — because later in his book after spending twenty pages claiming that the Anglo-Saxons are not Israel but that the Jews are, then he tells what a tremendous, wonderful, glorious place the Jews will have in the kingdom. In effect, he has implied that to teach that the Anglo-Saxons are Israel is apostasy, that’s “dung”, that’s false, and even if it were true, in order to teach it, you’d have to give up Christ — and then he turns right around and tells how the Jews have a special place in the kingdom!
At the end of the booklet, after teaching that the Anglo-Saxons are not Israel, he says this:
“It will be a great advantage to be an Israelite in the millennium. They will not only rule all the rest, but will be a channel of blessings to all nations because they are physical descendants of Abraham’s grandson.”
He teaches about the Jews exactly he says we should not teach about the Israel people.
About Israel and the Northern Tribes in the Assyrian captivity, he summarizes —
“…the main argument may be stated thus — Israel, the ten-tribed nation in contrast to Judah, was carried away captive by the Assyrians and later appears as the Scythians by the Black Sea and gradually worked their way northwest until they now are confined to Scandinavia, Denmark, France, the British Isles, including those colonies and states in other parts of the world with them.”
That’s briefly part of what we teach. This man has implied that he’s a “scholar” but then he says, “As the scripture tell us so little of the Scythians that we can conclude that their identity with Israel is quite imaginary.”
See the book, Tracing Our Ancestors, which lists 175 other books from which the author, Frederick Haberman gleaned information proving the Anglo-Saxon people were descendants from the lost, dispersed tribes of Israel.
He continues, “It is not easy to see how in this short interval the Israelites could have been transformed from the handful of captives into a powerful war-like nation which would be able or desirous to attacking Assyria without any attempts to return to their land of promise.”
His main argument that the Scythians were not Israelites is grounded upon this phrase, “a handful of captives.” All opponents to Anglo-Israelism claim that the Israelites who went into captivity were very few in number, and could not possibly be the great numbers of people that later showed up in southern and Eastern Europe.
At the time of David — 500 years before the time of the Assyrian captivity, David had 1,570,000 men at arms alone in Israel — and the probability is that instead of a “handful” of captives, there may have been upwards of 20 million Israelites taken into captivity by the Assyrians.
Practically every preacher in America ignores — or actively opposes — those of us who teach that the Anglo-Saxons and kindred peoples are Israel.
Preachers ignore the Assyrian captivity in two ways — by not talking about it at all, and talking only about the Babylonian captivity of the city of Jerusalem that came 120 years later — and by talking about the “dispersion of the Jews” that took place when Titus drove the Jews out Jerusalem in 70AD — and they talk about that as the sole dispersion of the Israelites.
This is not honest since the dispersion of the vast majority of Israelites had taken place over 700 years before the birth of Christ. And most ministers are taught in the seminaries not to discuss that captivity — because any rational discussion of the captivity of the Israelites by the Assyrians would lead one to ask the question, “What happened to those millions of people?” And “Where are their descendants today?”
So there is a conspiracy in the midst of us — in our churches — not to talk about the Assyrian captivity.
In the Bible some figures of the numbers of Israelite in Old Canaan land over 300 years before the Assyrian captivity. 1 Chronicles 21:
5 And Joab gave the sum of the number of the people unto David. And all they of Israel were a thousand thousand and an hundred thousand men that drew sword: and Judah was four hundred threescore and ten thousand men that drew sword.
We have a total of 1,100,000 soldiers of Israel — and 470,000 out of Judah — and if we include Levi and Benjamin, all of which could mean a total population of about 16,000,000 — or upwards of 32,000,000 Israelites at 1,000 years before the birth of Jesus Christ.
These figures alone should make any sincere Christian today question the idea that Jews constitute the entire residue of the children of Israel. Any reading of Genesis would apprise you of the promises repeated to Abraham, Issac and Jacob that God would multiply them, and make them exceeding fruitful.
The covenant that begins the Bible was that Abraham’s descendants would be as the “sand of the sea” and as the “stars of heaven”. And here we have 3,000 years ago the Israelites had 1,570,000 men at arms in old Canaan land.
Today, all deceitful and lying minsters would have you believe that God is fulfilling some sort of Israel prophecy by taking back to old Jerusalem only a million and a half Jews. David had that many soldiers in Palestine 3,000 years ago. Where are the promises of God if you believe the false teaching that 20,000,000 Jews in the world today constitute all of Israel?
The very teaching that today’s “Jews” are Israel is a denial of every truth and promise and revelation in the word of God.
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I have found some other clues about our links to being the physical descendants that I haven’t seen here. I wanted to share them before they get washed away. If you look at images in the tomb of SETI you will see who have kzitzkits on and who is called Hyskos/Habirus.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tomb+of+SETI+kzitzkits&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images
Also, the Gomer link in the book of Hosea is really close to the name the Assyrians called the scattered tribes (Gimmiri) which then the Greeks called them Cimmerians. I have also wondered if Rahab was a descendant of Zarah (Judah’s son with the red hand tie) Zarah has an interesting legend out there many believe he is an early Gaelic leader. Jeremiah was tasked by Yah to “uproot build and to plant”, I believe I have a strong theory on where this is but you will never find it in modern books. Also, Ireland looks to have kept the old law of Moses for centuries and St.Patrick was not even a Catholic.
Here is the biggest one, The language and the alphabet. I am shocked European Christians have not smothered the net with this part, the ancient Paleo-Hebrew is the OBVIOUS father of the Greek language- or brother, and it obviously was used in the creation of English yet we are to believe Hebrew alphabet was some foreign Afro-asiatic language. I got news for them, Europeans were once called Asians everything East of Greece and Egypt was called Asia once upon a time. The Paleo-Hebrew/Phoenician alphabet looks like Greek reflected in a mirror and missing a few vowels. So I would call the language Moses and King David knew an indo European language. The modern Hebrew has more Arabic roots I am told and not real sure what to think of it, I don’t study it at all myself I feel it is more related to the ancient Babylonian language.
Can someone eplain Ephesians3:5-6?
Paul is claiming that it was a hidden mystery that the gentiles was going to be partakers.
We all know that it is not hidden in OT that God was going to bring all of the scattered of the house of israel. So what does this mean?
This one verse can’t “win” over all those verses that Jesus came for only the israelites.
Can someone please explain?
Ephesians 3: 5-6:
“Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel.”
It’s not that one verse can “win” over others — rather no verse can contradict another, and if Christ says he came only for the lost sheep of Israel, all other verses must agree with that statement, Old and New Testaments.
The term “Gentiles” did not exist when either the New or Old Testaments were written. Jerome made it up almost 400 years after the NT was written for a substitution for the Greek word “ethnos” which means “nations”, and depending on the context, it refers to the Genesis 10 Adamic nations or Israelites or the ten northern tribes.
Those lost northern tribes did almost complete lose their identity as Israelites, and like the Genesis 10 nations did not know the prophecies about their destiny. This verse in Ephesians repeats that Christ would first be revealed to the Judeans and then to the “nations”, the “fellowheirs” to the promises and coventants, as foretold in Jeremiah 31:31.
You will never understand the true meaning of the Bible if you rely only on the English translations which contain many errors and misleading word choices.
Johan prophecies have cease:
Proof you no longer have an open cannon. Why do you say gift of prophecy has not ceased. I challenge all false prophets to add to the cannon if they can prove the gift of prophecy remains.
Mormons, Senventh day adventists and the Catholic church allow for modern day prophecies.
In Hebrews it says in the last days God has spoken – past tense through his Son.
Miraculous knowledge and prophecy came to an end when the New Covenant was completely revealed. It is strange that the gifts were imparted through the laying on of the Apostles hands. The only exception being Acts 10 when God in choosing Gentiles demonstrated the gifts of acceptance and inclusion in combination of Peters visions. They the gentiles received the Spirit Just as Kathws (exactly as we did in the beginning) Begining = Bereshite Genesis.
It says in 1 Corinth 13 these three gifts remain Faith Hope and love. Greatest being Love.
Will you need hope in heaven or faith? No only three gifts remain when perfection had come.
Perfection has not come, as Peter states in 2 Peter 3:
“For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice [and yours] that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day. The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.
Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat! But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.”
Ok! show us with a video that you still prophecy revelation. Prove it with a miracle after all that is what the bible says. Then it shall be inserted into the Cannon as scripture. Good luck Johan, perfection has come as only Faith, Hope and Love remain. If you think you are a prophet please demonstrate. If what a prophet says does not come true: Fear him not.
Its this nonsense that as set Christendom back Millenia. No secular people believe Pentecostal leanings. You fail to save your contemporaries because you never show signs of prophetic proofs. So sorry. I have never found a true prophet today only charlatans who reject Gods word. Perfection means completions as is expressed in James it says the perfect law of liberty. Completed law of liberty. No man with two testes believes this as there is no proof. Faith, Hope and Love no new scriptures see/
What has me being a prophet or not got to do with a Scripture based discussion on whether prophecy happens or not?
Further to that, do you understand the Scriptural implications of demanding prophetic signs?
The above are genuine questions.
I know how James’ perfect law of liberty fits into all of the Scriptures which I’ve posted, all of which affirm the law as applicable to the lawless. How does James’ perfect law of liberty fit in with those in your view? I’ll quote just two for you. Please reconcile them for me:
“But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.”
“Therefore, putting aside all filthiness and all that remains of wickedness, in humility receive the word implanted, which is able to save your souls. But prove yourselves doers of the word, and not merely hearers who delude themselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks at his natural face in a mirror; for once he has looked at himself and gone away, he has immediately forgotten what kind of person he was. But one who looks intently at the perfect law, the law of liberty, and abides by it, not having become a forgetful hearer but an effectual doer, this man will be blessed in what he does.”
Johan to answer all of your assertions is too much for this platform. Now you say heaven and earth must pass away before one jot or title may pass from the Law.
Not yet clarified why you do not keep the jot of the death penalty?
Clearly that has passed.
My favourite verse for this subject
Mark 7
“With that Jesus declared all foods clean.”
Wow another yod and tittle change by Christ declaration.
So you pay tithes to a Melchizedek Priesthood.
Is that another yod or title that passed before heaven and earth passed away.
If you wait for a new creation why does it say you are new creatures? Did heaven and earth pass away and a new creation begin.
Now regarding blood moon and vapours of smoke. Seek the Old testament this language was used many times of events in ancient Israel. Prophetic language.
“‘AND IT SHALL BE IN THE LAST DAYS,’ God says, ‘THAT I WILL POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL MANKIND; AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY, AND YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS, AND YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS; EVEN ON MY BONDSLAVES, BOTH MEN AND WOMEN, I WILL IN THOSE DAYS POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT And they shall prophesy. ‘AND I WILL GRANT WONDERS IN THE HEAVENS ABOVE AND SIGNS ON THE EARTH BELOW, BLOOD, AND FIRE, AND VAPOR OF SMOKE. THE SUN WILL BE TURNED INTO DARKNESS AND THE MOON INTO BLOOD, BEFORE THE GREAT AND GLORIOUS DAY OF THE Lord SHALL COME. AND IT SHALL BE THAT EVERYONE WHO CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE Lord WILL BE SAVED’” (Acts 2:17-21).
Peter makes it clear that these events were taking place in his day: “This is what was spoken through the prophet Joel” (2:16; Joel 2:28-32). The “last days” were the last days of the Old Covenant that was passing away (Heb. 1:1-2; 1 Cor. 10:11; Heb. 9:26).
The change in the Law meant a change in the heavens and earth otherwise you have no New covenant. New replaces old so yod and tittle of old changed to New alpha and omega – lingua Franka.
I am accused of being a liar I do not consent.
I must admit to a certain perplexity at talking with you, Russ. You deliberately ignore things which I’ve said, or perhaps you haven’t read them. Perhaps as by your own admission, you actively choose not to answer my assertions. Therefore I have nothing to accuse you of, because you have accused yourself.
In reference to the law I specifically says, “I affirm all of this, and I seek it, for the Law is a shadow of the good things. Don’t harden yourself against my words, because I affirm these good things, not the shadows which you accuse me of not keeping.” The clarifications which Christ gave revealed the jots and tittles of the law, as in the sermon on the mount, he proceeded to clarify and even add to the law.
If one keeps the Sabbath, they may miss the eternal rest. If one abstains from unclean foods, they may miss out on true cleanness which is the result of what proceeds from the heart. If one keeps the feasts, they may miss out on Israel’s destiny. If one wears tassels, they will likely forget God’s ways. Adherence to the law as you state it, is like when Paul says, “for sin, taking an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me.” The true calling of the law is that it demands our everything, and when we follow the Spirit, the letter of the law passes away. As Paul said, “But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law”. When we are led by true love, giving everything, the law becomes like guard rails on a construction catwalk. Look forward, stay away from the edge and you won’t need the railing.
But are you indeed looking forward? Are you indeed under the Spirit? Paul says that the fruits of the flesh are “enmities, strife… disputes, dissensions…” Have you not caused enmity, strife, disputes and dissensions with the CFT staff, accusing them and railing against them? This is milk and basics. Paul says, “I gave you milk to drink, not solid food; for you were not yet able to receive it. Indeed, even now you are not yet able, for you are still fleshly. For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshly, and are you not walking like mere men?”
Paul says, “realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching”. Again, Paul says, “THE… LAW IS… FOR THOSE WHO ARE LAWLESS…”
You need milk. You who advocate the breaking of kind after kind, are in need of the law. You are falling over the guard rails which are there to protect you. Not only do you break the law yourself, but if seems you seek out those who keep it so as to scoff at them and abuse them.
— “If you wait for a new creation why does it say you are new creatures” —
Meaningless rhetoric. Peter specifies this clearly in 2 Peter 3.
— “Seek the Old testament this language was used many times of events in ancient Israel.” —
Don’t I know it? Yet it is quoted many times as well in the Revelation, of which the climax is the return of Christ, which hasn’t happened yet.
— “Peter makes it clear that these events were taking place in his day” —
Yet Peter misquoted Joel 2. Joel says, “It will come about after this”, but Peter says, “And it shall be in the last days”. What did this come about after according to Joel? Joel says, “And My people will never be put to shame”. This was not fulfilled in those days as Israel lives in shame to this day. Therefore Peter says, “in the last days”.
I already showed you why the apostles and Paul thought the last days would culminate in Christ’s return, but you’ve ignored, or chosen not to reply to my assertions. Instead you quote to me Hebrews 9:26, when I already showed that to you in verse 28 culminates in Christ’s return.
Again, I am perplexed. Like with Esther 2, your error in comprehension was plain, but you haven’t even acknowledged it. You’ve just conveniently ignored it, or by your admission, chosen not to reply.
I am starting to suspect perhaps that Russ has something personally at stake here, a dog in the fight as it were, a hidden shame that holds him back. Perhaps he is himself a race mixer, or perhaps one of his children is–perhaps he has race mixed children or grandchildren or extended family — he’s alluded to defending certain mamzers — and his way of dealing with that sin is to falsely accuse Christians who expose the sin of race mixing instead of acknowledging the sin for what it is.
Russ has something emotionally invested in his militant denial of Israel’s true identity, and I seriously doubt it’s based purely on scripture. Note how when you quote scripture that contradicts his pet doctrines, he sticks his head in the sand and pretends you didn’t say anything. For Russ, it seems personal, almost as if he needs a god who approves of race mixing and its mamzers.
Well Chesterton, your theory is surely an easy thing to answer, but the silence is deafening me.
Please Johan, clam down draw some breath. I will make it milky. I said God will make a New covenant with Israel not like the one I gave to Moses. That Johan sounds like a whole lot of yod’s s and tittles were changed. I think you may like to concede the old covenant has been replace with the new. So, there must be a New heaven and New earth. Or how else do you explain a new covenant not like the old. You are now attacking me personally as you cannot concede. You cannot have a new with the old yod;s and tiitle’s now can you? I was called a racist. Its not me! I protest, I believe in one Adamic Race. You may call me an ethnecist. Yes, I love my culture people and heritage and folk. Never ever project your sins upon me. A racist is one who believes in separate races. I cannot be such as I believe in all came from Adam. I believe in diversity of genome as men are not animal. I believe all dogs came from the wolf. Diversity in one beggining. God is amazing. When I expose other people who are black who kill Caucasian families of mine, you call me racist. Shameful and Spiritless fruit!. You just can handle the fact that creation in a Judiacs mind is not what you suppose. We live under a new covenant of different yod’s and tittle’s. I thought all day as I worked why do they hate me. Then it came tome like meat not milk. If they hate Me they will hate you… Oh God Father liberate them from this hell on earth.
Johan with the utmost respect as I really enjoy your sincerity. I cannot answer all your questions. Just ain’t enough space and CFT want us to stay on point, remember.
Don’t flatter yourself, Russ, no one here “hates” you. If we “hate” anything, it’s your stubborn blindness, your refusal to acknowledge any correction whatsoever, your self-serving habit of taking scripture out of context, and your blind reliance on bad translations that justify your spurious doctrines. We hate lies, Russ. It’s no more complicated than that–and you are so self-deluded and prideful and you cannot recognize any of those qualities in yourself that alienate those around you. If you make no effort to change those character flaws, you will be banned from further commenting.
Johan says:
do you understand the Scriptural implications of demanding prophetic signs?
Yet if we go to Deuteronomy 13 & 18 this was the test of a prophet. If the things he says comes true and He speaks in accordance with the Law. He may be accepted as a prophet. Christ passed that test with flying colours but modern Pentecostals just leave the reasoning man, perplexed.
Does not the bible say test the Spirits to see if they are of God? Well He claims prophecies have not ceased:
So I ask for a test as laid down by Moses and the apostle John.
I demonstrate the Christ who said spoke of the Fathers miracles as proof of his ministry.
I test the Spirit by asking why the cannon is closed if prophets are still among us?
I point out that Paul said the signs of an apostle were wrought amongst you. As proof of apostolic office.
These are not the inquiry of a deluded man but claims of prophecy must fulfill the test.
I am not a Pharisee rather I believe Moses, the prophets and the Christ.
I would say then in answer to your question, indeed I do know the consequences of seeking as sign but the test is scriptural and a command.
Test the Spirits.
The early church Fathers were unanimous the gifts ceased.
Russ, I’m curious… Did you deliberately ignore that Christ said, “An evil generation demands a sign”, and Scripture says also, “John did no sign, but everything he said came true”.
Why didn’t you address those in your answer? Are they not relevant to you? Do you find them unimportant?
Why didn’t you answer why you believe I need to be a prophet in order to prove prophecy exists?
You’ve ignored all of my reasons for prophecy not disappearing based on the second heaven and earth not having passed away by fire yet.
You seem to deliberately ignore Scripture, and you seem to deliberately ignore things I’ve written. I can’t reason with you, because you don’t respect basics of communication or Scripture.
As it pertains to the new and old covenants, Paul neatly summarizes what I’ve been saying all along in Romans 7:6, “But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.”
He says in Romans 3:31, “Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law.”
We do not serve in oldness of letter, but newness of Spirit. If you are in the newness of Spirit, then you have no need of the guard rails.
Was the covenant made with Abraham new? Was the covenant made with Israel by Moses new? Did these things warrant a new heaven and earth? “New” is a relative term, because the old covenant wasn’t always an “old” one. The “new covenant = new heaven and earth” rhetoric is so baseless, but all you are giving me is rhetoric, so how else can I respond? This especially considering you haven’t addressed 2 Peter 3 yet.
Jeremiah 31:33 says, ““But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the Lord, “I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.””
We have the law on our hearts, not in the oldness of letter, but in the newness of Spirit. Paul says in Romans 7:14, “For we know that the Law is spiritual”. How do you reconcile all of these things together? When I read the Scripture, I don’t shy away from anything. But you shy away from most of what I put before you.
I don’t believe there is such a thing as “race”. There are men and then there are beasts. Men come from Adam and beasts come from beasts. That’s why there’s a law not to mate with beasts, because it is confusion. The product is really confusing, especially as they continue to propagate. However this “Diversity in one beggining” idea is your own understanding (or maybe Answers in Genesis) not founded on Scripture, which is why you don’t bother to quote it. Noah was already far down from Adam in creation. If Noah’s children were diverse “races”, their children would all be brown. Peleg at the time of Babel was four generations down from Noah. Noah’s children had four generations to mix, and yet still somehow produce peoples who “micro-evolved” and travelled all the way to Australia and South America, of which we have no record and no evidence at all, and neither do those “peoples”. When they reproduce today, they only produce brown, destroying the kind God created. As Paul said, “For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.” Indeed, it is clearly seen.
You don’t have to explain the repopulation of the flora and fauna of the planet any more than you have to explain Mary’s virgin conception. God is amazing, after all. The repopulation of men is well described in Scripture and easily traceable in history.
The big question is, when did heaven and earth pass, or has it passed at all. Hebrews 12 gives some excellent insight concerning this issue:
(Hebrews 12:18-27 KJV) For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, {19} And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard entreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more: {20} (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart: {21} And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:) {22} But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, {23} To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, {24} And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. {25} See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: {26} Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. {27} And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
So in writing to Hebrews 2000yrs ago. They have come (present tense) to the city of God. Hallelujah.
What was the scope of revelations or the Revelation – It was the distress the Christians were facing and they sighed for real insight into their tribulation.
Hebrews the book say we have come to Zion the City of God.
I try really I do but you are scared to concede for fear of the others. How could the come to a city if it was not present?
Abraham sought this city?
Here we are playing fleshly covenant against Spiritual truths and realities.
Peter did not misquote he was inspired. Such an assertion reveals that you reject verbal plenary inspiration and so you waffel over the realities present.
The city Abraham sought was present in the contemporay era of Hebrews the writing of the book.
Lets see what more you can enflesh.
I already addressed your misunderstanding that the city and Kingdom must appear immediately, but you’ve come around again to this topic, as if I haven’t specifically spoken about it already. I’ll copy and paste for a second time this very same piece:
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Consider also Luke 17:20-21 which says, “Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or, ‘There it is!’ For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst.””
We do experience the Kingdom of God if we have partaken of the Divine nature, but we should not deny the Scripture which says in Revelation 11:15 says when the seventh trumpet has sounded, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ”.
The kingdom of Christ reigns, but it is not yet the kingdom of the world. But it must become the kingdom of the world! How then? Luke 19:11 says, “While they were listening to these things, Jesus went on to tell a parable, because He was near Jerusalem, and they supposed that the kingdom of God was going to appear immediately.”
He tells them how He must leave, and then He must return to take account of their labor and reward them accordingly. In John 14 He says, “I go to prepare you a place”. Then in Luke 12:42-44, “And the Lord said, “Who then is the faithful and sensible steward, whom his master will put in charge of his servants, to give them their rations at the proper time? Blessed is that slave whom his master finds so doing when he comes. Truly I say to you that he will put him in charge of all his possessions.”
In Revelation 20:6 it says of the remnant of Israel and martyrs of all nations (Rev 7), “but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.”
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And Matthew 25:31-34 says, “But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left. “Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.”
— “Peter did not misquote he was inspired” —
Yet I affirm what Peter said. Peter did not quote what was written in Joel. He can misquote (which factually he did, probably intentionally) and be inspired at the same time. They’re not exclusive. To try to make them exclusive is just your own rhetoric.
–“The big question is, when did heaven and earth pass, or has it passed at all. Hebrews 12 gives some excellent insight concerning this issue:”–
How do you reconcile that with 2 Peter 3? I’ve asked you this so many times, and you’ve ignored it every time. There’s so much Scripture out there you still need to cover and reconcile with this view of yours that all has been fulfilled.
I’d really like to continue to discuss this with you, Russ, but I’m afraid it is fruitless. I just don’t know how to communicate with you when you are so selective in what you pay attention to.
For you 2 Peter 3 is a must force passage. Most on this website do not believe in a universal creation, Universal flood and yet 2 Peter talks to you of a universal destruction. Question is: if you are anti universalist, why change now. 10But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and its works will be laid bare.
Galatians 4:3, the elements of the world:”
Galatians 4:9, beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?”
Colossians 2:8, tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.”
Colossians 2:20,22, “Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances… after the commandments and doctrines of men?”
Hebrews 5:12, principles of the oracles of God
The word has a wider meaning than atoms and this seems to be forgotten in the discussion.
Now in answer to the assertion did I forget a foolish and an adulteress generation seeks a sign. I seek no sign as the gifts are over but like Ejijah who tested false prophets, I ask why has the gift of prophetic scripture ceased? Surely you can see I am commanded to test the spirits. Why are their no miraculous known languages. See Acts 2 the known languages ceased. Prophecies ceased and knowledge (supernatural) also ended. When perfection, completion, fulfilment came. It is a neuter noun and as such is referring not to Jesus but something other. Holy writings is what God promised to lead them into all truth. Given that the gifts were imparted by the apostles hands as they died so the gifts died out with that last generation. So do not show me a sign as my bible if complete rather prove you are a prophet and demonstrate by the biblical requirement to test a prophet. All three of those gifts were imparted by the laying on of hands and necessary for a prophetic ministry in the absence of scripture to assist in the early primitive Christian church.
If a prophet speaks not according to the law he must be rejected. If the things a prophet says does not come true he must not be feared. They used to stone false prophets. I reject Ellen G White, JW, Pentescostal prophecies because they are not adding to Gods word and show no evidence of prophecy. 2 Timothy 3:16 sufficiency of the Word of God.
The Lion is the symbol for the Tribe of Judah which can be be found on most flags and coats of arms of the provinces, and many cities too, in the Germanic countries. Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Denmark, Sweden, Norway.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tribe+of+judah&FORM=HDRSC2&PC=RIMBINGD
Also, in the Palatine Chapel in Aachen, Germany, which was part of Charlemagne’s Palace, there is a painting of Jesus which has two lions beneath him, to his right and left.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Christian8Pics/status/1273057401663565826/photo/1
The Jutland peninsula in Northern Germany and in Denmark is named for the Tribe of Judah when they first settled the area. They then spread out over time across northern Europe. That’s why all of the Germanic languages are so similar and intelligible, because they were all originally one language.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yl4xwxNdKgE
True, and it raises the question: if today’s “Jews” are true descendants of the Tribe of Judah, then why didn’t Israel use the symbol of the lion for the Israeli flag instead of the occult Star of David, which appears nowhere in the Bible associated with King David or Judah?
Yes, that’s an easy one. It’s because they aren’t who they say they are.
Revelations 2:9 and 3:9.
The word Adam (Adawm) means “to show blood in the face.” No other race can blush except for Caucasions. We got our name after we escaped Babaloynian slavery and traveled north turning west through the Caucasas mountain range. That area is still known today as The Pass of Israel.
During the Jewish created Protestant Reformation, they made some changes when they were translating the Bible into the local languages. They changed the word Judahite from the Old Testament and the word Judeos (province of Judeah) from the New Testament to the word Jew. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever as to why those changes needed to be made. The only reason is for their deception. They’re pretending to be us.
An another important change they made was changing “love your racial kinship as yourself” into “love your neighbour as yourself.” BIG difference.
You can only be a Christian by blood. Race is everything.
Yes, “neighbor” is a greatly misunderstood word in the NT. It comes from the Greek plEsion (G4139) which literally means “close one”, someone who is close to you, and it does NOT necessarily have a spatial proximity connotation to it that most judeo-Christians suppose. It would be more accurately understood as a “kinsman” or the like.
That said, the English word “neighbor” comes from two words “nigh” meaning close, and “boer” meaning farmer, of course. The farmer who lives close to you. 500 years ago, the chances that a neighboring farmer would somehow be related to you would be very high–as farming communities were close-knit–and often inter-married for the sake of descent of property. And the opposite would be true — a neighboring farmer would NEVER be a racial alien–nor would you ever refer to a racial alien as your “neighbor”.
Very, very interesting on the origins of the word neighbor. I speak three Germanic languages myself, but I never knew that. One of the reasons I really like this site is that you learn just as much in the comments as in the articles themselves.
Yes, boer in Dutch and bauer in German means farmer. I’ve also read that Frisian was the closest language to Old English, which makes sense.
Old English though underwent a lot of changes since the Norman invasion. The Normams were working with the Jews, as you’re probably aware, and then William the Conquerer commenced a genocide on the Anglo-Saxons know as the “Harrying of the North.” Edward I finally had enough of them though and ended up banning them.
But they came back.
If you look at the flag of England today, the cross of St.George, it is the exact same flag as the city of Genoa, Italy. The Venetians and the Genoa Templars moved in covertly when Henry VIII was king and laid the groundwork for Cromwell (who they financed and he married into the Pallavincini family, if I remember correctly) to come in, kill the Catholic king and start destroying all of the abbeys, etc. He also reversed the ban on the Jews. Then Cromwell began his genocidal campaign against Ireland and the Irish people.
You will most likely be aware of St.George being always represented as slaying the dragon. I have come to learn that the dragon actually represents a bloodline that they are trying to wipe out. I need to do more research into that subject though.
Getting back to the article though, the Angles and the Saxons are Germanic tribes that migrated from Germany. They are racial Judahites. It is absolutely ridiculous to suggest anything else. Unfortunately though, they are certainly not in control of England anymore.
I came to that conclusion years ago, even without the Bible to convince me of it. I believed that many White people were literally born Christian. I sensed that White people had a unique morality encoded in their very DNA unlike others who had to learn it. What I now know is that many White people are born Israelites, and their birthright is Christianity, and making a conscious choice to embrace it allows us to achieve our full potential as spiritual Israelites.
You’re instincts and intuition have served you well. That’s why God gave them to us.
Intuition is your inherent knowledge, things that you know automatically, things you know without needing instruction in, or needing tuition in. Nowadays we go to school to get our intuition driven out of us, at all costs.
I remember when I was in my first few years of primary school, there was a black family that started to come to the school, which wasn’t a very common site yet. My mates and I let them know in no uncertain terms that they didn’t belong there. But as always, there was a brainwashed teacher who intervend and started preaching “tolerance” to us, and for us to leave them alone and to welcome them.
Our intuition, our inherent knowledge told us that they didn’t belong there with us. I have to laugh too when I hear the word “tolerance.” Yahweh didn’t show Esua any “tolerance,” now did he?
Let’s take their word “racism.” Well for racism to even exist, there has to be different races, correct? But they tell us that we’re all the same, that there are no differences between the races. So, if we’re all the same, how can racism even exist? It makes no sense at all. These people really are insane.
Racism, huh? Racism will be our salvation!
It does see the British Emblem on the EU passport for Britain. It has the Lion of Judah, the harp of Davis and the grapes of Joshua. The city of London is where the queen bows to enter said city. She bows and receives His (lord mayors staff), its not a city of England but of the … The crown is that city it is not England it belongs to the global bankster. Ie Rothschild: so you may know why the Israeli flag has the two triangles in opposition it is the house of Rothschild formerly Bauer. Gold and Diamonds an JEW EL. yes Jewels is their scam. They set the prices of commodities and Rothshild gave allowance for Palestine to be driven out or camped by concentration in the greatest ever Gazza. Oh how my people died from lack of knowledge.
The link I shared in my first post is actually of the Palatine Chapel in Palermo. I made a mistake on that. I’ll see if I can find a photo of the one in Aachen.
As Matthew 10 suggests the lost sheep were in Israel tine at the time of Christ and they were not Samaritans and Gentiles. All your protestations have been noted but never clearly explained. The apostles fullfilled this command to go only to the lost sheep. If they did not then they failed to carry out their command and were thus disobedient. No Samaritans were not lost sheep according to Matt 10.
My question is rather more pointed so lets keep focus. Did the author of this book believe the kingdom came with power and was it seen in their life time Matt 16:28? Did that author believe a kingdom came on earth as it is in heaven? We put words in peoples mouths with prejudice and then expect a surrendered belief.
Does the CI movement believe that Great Britain was a late fulfillment of part of that kingdom considering John the Baptist saw it as imminent. The Kingdom of heaven is at Hand. So the last prophet of the old and the Messiah proclaimed a kingdom coming with power in the life time of the listeners.
It matters not that nations may to some degree accept Christianity rather it matters that individuals were called out of the world. So it is a kingdom in the world not of the world or my servants would fight. Are we seriously asking for flesh and blood warfare when the bible states we wrestle not against flesh and blood.
I have tried to accommodate your views with patients yet it lacks a convincing proof necessary for repentance. The other day a Baptist minister found he had Khazarian blood. Shocker. No DNA or geneology no inheritance. Its just that simple if you enjoy flesh and a legal code that demands an evidence of pedigree. When last have you looked for a genealogy before proclaiming the gospel. You might be preaching to a mamzer or fleshly seed of the devil and you would not even know it.
Unless you are born of water and spirit you will not see that kingdom present here on earth from the date of Pentecost and the first out pouring of the Holy Spirit. As you hate those who reject your hypothesis, I pray forgive them Father they know not what they do.
All you have is word games and intentional misunderstandings, Russ, because all your theology is built on sand. Matthew 10 does not say or even imply that ALL the lost sheep of the house of Israel were in Judea at that time but rather SOME of them were. The idea that you are suggesting all the lost Israelites in existence from the vast 10 northern tribes were in Judea at that time is ludicrous and isn’t worth even trying to reason with. Roman historian Josephus witnessed that vast numbers of Israelites were “beyond the Euphrates” at the time of Christ.
The original Samaritans were part of the dispersion of lost Israel; in no way does that suggest that none of Samaritans were NOT Israelites — in fact, it helps confirm that they were scattered sheep who would later hear the gospel after the crucifixion. Again, you do violence to the intent of the gospel. Roman historian Josephus recognized the Israelite identity of the original Samaritans (cf. Antiquities 9.291; 11.341). But you know better, right Russ?
You refuse to believe that “gentiles” means “nations” and so you cling to the ambiguity created by Jerome’s poor translational choice because you want to squeeze non-Adamic people into your church and nations. Look around you there in South Africa–that’s the result. You have no one to blame but yourself.
It’s not about what the author of the book believes about the Kingdom–because his own internal contradictions and “logic” condemn him. The point is that everything he argues in one context is contradicted by another–just like you. Stop pushing your Catholic preterism–it is contradicted by the totality of the Bible and all the prophecies that are yet to be fulfilled.
You are lying about a minister having “Khazarian” blood–no DNA tests for that. Your minister took a Jewish DNA test which told him he may have had “Ashenazi” DNA, but it was probably below the margin of error–5%….and they do this so that everyone thinks they are a Jew. You need to write your own Bible, because the real one specifically says of the Israelites, no “mamzers”, that is mixed race offspring, shall enter the congregation (Deut 23:2).
Only Christ can and will separate the Wheat from the Tares–do you understand the parable? Wheat and Tares look very much alike, and they live in the same field. But only one is pleasing to God. Like it or not–mamzers are not pleasing to God–they are a violation of the first law of Genesis–kind after kind. Does God share your sympathy for mamzers?
What does your universalist Judeo-Christian God think of all the racist and antisemitic comments that you’ve left on this website, Russ? All those verses you cite to disprove Israel identity are used by your fellow judeo-Christians to condemn racism and antisemitism. According to your like-minded Christians, they better pray for you because they would condemn you to hell if they could read what you’ve written here. You are a hypocrite when it comes to race, and that’s why this website is your favorite. If you truly believed what you claim, you would denounce this “racist” website and never return.
Well what can you expect from a pig but a grunt. Racist comments: Is always the accusation you level at me. Amazing. I love my people and nation and ethnicity. The destruction of that means I have the right to speak out.
Lets be clear and concise : Matthew 10 explains quit clearly that the apostles went to lost sheep residing in Israel ancient boundaries. So lost means something other than geography.
This point is so obvious you need not concede it as and 5 yr old without prejudice can explain the obviousness of the fulfillment of the command reaching only in His life time the people of the Galilee and Judea. Your group attack reminds be of the Syanim and Jew internet army. ATTACK! Yet you cannot answer why was the first commission different to the other one in Acts. The first one said go only unto the lost sheep. Not Samaritans? Its not my fault you stiffneckedly resit there were two commissions. One at the beginning of His earthly ministry and one at the end. Why were the Samaritans not included in the first and then only in the second if they were the house of Israel as some suggest here? Its not for ten thousand words just a simple answer. If the commission was not for Samaritans how could they only go to lost sheep of the house of Israel. Sunday schoolers know that Samaria was in the geographic regions of ancient Israel. Why two distinct and different commissions one inclusive and one exclusive of Samaritans (oh sorry Lost sheep which Jesus never suggested). As you can see I do not run from seeking a perfect revealed answer. So what is it? Even Jesus the pure and righteous was accused of blashempy by hypocrites. He clled the woman a dog because she was not of His nation. God was a nationalist who through death universalized the gospel of peace unto all nations.
You conflate Judah and Israel–they are not the same. Some of the Samaritans must have been Israelites–the woman at the well knew her “father” was Jacob. Christ does NOT correct her for making this claim. Jospehus confirms Samaritans were Israelites. That’s three witnesses against your position, Russ. What more needs to be said? It’s you who are “stiffnecked”.
At the first commission, the Judean disciples would not have understood that the “lost sheep of the house of Israel” would have included others–this message was NEW to them. Think about it from their perspective: Israel had been “lost” for 700 years at this point! And the Judahites in Judea thought they were all of the “house of Israel” so that’s how Christ spoke to them about the first commission. The Judahites in Judea were not even all of Judah–they were just a remnant of Judah who kept the law–but there were still many Judahites who were scattered and had lost their identity (Zechariah 1:21).
That’s why Peter struggled with the idea that there were other Israelites outside of Judea–just like you, Russ. And it took a special vision to convince him otherwise.
And it had to be done this way because that’s what the prophecy said must happen–to Judah first (Zechariah 12:7). If Christ started discussing taking the gospel to all of the “lost sheep” outside Judea from the beginning of his mission, he would have nullified the long-established prophecy. It’s not nearly as complicated as you’re making it.
Yet Christ distinguishes Samaria from the nations in Matthew 10, and specifically visits the Samaritans in John 4. He says to them, “salvation is from the Judahites”, not the “Israelites”, which is not insignificant for a Samaritan who specifically said, “I know that Messiah is coming (He who is called Christ); when that One comes, He will declare all things to us.”
Why would Christ visit Israelites in Samaria and yet forbid His disciples from visiting there to go rather to the lost sheep of Israel? 2 Kings 17:24 says, “The king of Assyria brought men from Babylon and from Cuthah and from Avva and from Hamath and Sepharvaim, and settled them in the cities of Samaria in place of the sons of Israel. So they possessed Samaria and lived in its cities.” It seems that Samaria was neither an Israelite city and nor was it void of Israelites.
Leviticus 19:19 says, “Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.” Christ said in Matthew 5:18, “For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” What does this law in Leviticus mean then?
God made kind after kind, and a white and a non-white producing children does not produce any kind, but rather a mix. Mixes can never produce pure kinds. Have you read the law, where it says, “Also you shall not have intercourse with any animal to be defiled with it, nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it; it is a perversion.” The KJV renders the last bit better as, “it is confusion”.
Only men may have eternal life. Beasts are not afforded eternal life. Talk of pedigrees is nothing but scoffing at the truth of creation by one whose conscience has been seared by the world.
I replied to you on your contentions on the timing of the Kingdom on another article. Russ, I ask you please to reply to me. It seems you have a habit of ignoring those who want to enter into dialogue with you. Why is that?
Johan thanks! I am sorry I do not always reply as I am often busy on other sites or articles.
Now your first point Judahites not Israelites. Now there is a passage which shows a Benjaminite who was called a Jew who did not live in Judah as Judah did not exist at that stage. So he was not a Jew by tribe nor a dweller in such a geography.
So he was called a Jew and a Benjaminite.
Probably he was born outside of ancient Palestine.
So if Judahite meant tribe He was not.
If Jew meant Edom he was not.
If Jew meant geography he was in the wrong location.
Here is an anomaly which may or may not may an exception to the rule.
The point is that He does not fit your untidy little theological box.
Jew and Israelite were sometimes used Interchangeably.
As too the Law it has been fulfilled. It is about as useless as a contract a builder fulfills. Is the builder still obligated to the owner of the property after its fulfilled. No he is release from said contract and Law. No one follows the instructions of the Law otherwise you must kill the Sabbath Breaker. After all you do not have Law and no divine punitive measures. This is how we know there is no longer an old testament Law to regulate your life. Teaching us to obey all that He Jesus commanded us. Why because he fulfilled the Law and so we have a law perfect in liberty.
Thanks again Johan I hope this explains the Law as it was to lead us too Christ. Not Christ too the Law.
As too animals and bestiality and the planting of two different crops in the same field. Well they were agrarian so how could you weigh the product if you mingled crops worth two different prices. This was not a secret mystery but national laws on weights measures ect. I see no reason to make mixed racial inbreeding the issue rather: If you want wheat and the guy puts filler in their with rye. You may be getting an unfair product cost. Simple.
I’m assuming you’re referring to Esther 2, where it says in verses 5 and 6:
“Now there was at the citadel in Susa a Jew whose name was Mordecai, the son of Jair, the son of Shimei, the son of Kish, a Benjamite, WHO HAD BEEN TAKEN INTO EXILE FROM JERUSALEM with the captives who had been exiled with Jeconiah king of Judah, whom Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon had exiled.”
If you were referring to another verse, could you please specifically give me the reference? Else I’m not really sure what to say; the interpretation seems obvious to me.
Christ said, “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.”
He said the following:
1. The law will not be abolished.
2. He will fulfill the law.
3. The law will not pass away until heaven and earth pass away.
How could point 2 imply the law being ended while 1 and 3 are truth? I believe that an honest comprehension and interpretation of this verse makes the interpretation completely unambiguous.
— “No one follows the instructions of the Law otherwise you must kill the Sabbath Breaker” —
Paul says in Colossians 2:16-17, “Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day — things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.”
What is the Sabbath a shadow of? It says in Hebrews 4:9-11, “So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His. Therefore let us be diligent to enter that rest, so that no one will fall, through following the same example of disobedience.”
Then I affirm the law of the Sabbath and seek to enter that rest.
— “This is how we know there is no longer an old testament Law to regulate your life.” —
Paul says in Romans 7:7, “I would not have come to know sin except through the Law” and in 1 Timothy 1:8-9, “But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious”.
Therefore I implore you to know the law, so that you may know sin, because Christ said, “depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness”. And again, “not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished”.
— “You may be getting an unfair product cost. Simple.” —
You’ve only explained one part of Leviticus 19:19 which I quoted and have not reconciled it to the other statues.
So then do you pay tithes? Do you attend temple worship times per year in Israel? The remains no more remission of sins under that covenant it is fulfilled and removed. Thus that which is written on stone is fading away. You insist upon the Sabbath but reject the putting to death of Sabbath breakers. Have you or have you not administered the death penalty for not keeping the Sabbath? Please answer. You are not under a theocracy and national law but under the covenant of the free gift. If the law makes one righteous how does David and Paul say there is non righteous no not one. We are all under death and its power of the Law.
I came not to destroy nor abolish but by fulfilling said Law for all we are free to grace. Please remember the establishment of Israel was like the creation. Ha Eretz the land was an is throughout called the land and in Revelation the nations are called the sea or isles. Why because God separated this people. So in Revelation and I saw a new Kainos not neos creation. It happened when God create something New. Not in brand New but New in kind. So heaven and earth did pass away as in Noah’s day when it began to rain and go said again replenish the earth. Now as to Matthew it is clear the time limitation is its fulfillment not the complete annihilation of the earth and the heavens. Israel had broken the covenant years before God still in honouring the fathers fulfils and replaces it not with a law of self righteousness but of grace and righteousness from above. Peter says the fathers could not keep the Law. Its designed to show hypocrites and sin and necessity of Christ the fulfill er of the Law. For all have sinned. Colossians means no one is to judge you of Sabbath you are freed from that Law that kept leaving them in captivity or occupation to others. Why because of their sin.
I affirm tithes and give my best and first fruits to the priestly order of Melchizedek, which is Christ Himself. But why stop at tenths, when we can give everything?
The Passover lamb has been sacrificed and perpetually has His blood over us. I affirm the removal of leaven from my life, as Paul says in 1 Corinthians 5:7-8, “For Christ our Passover also has been sacrificed. Therefore let us celebrate the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.”
I seek constantly that trumpet of reminder and warning, as it says in Hosea 8:1, “Put the trumpet to your lips! Like an eagle the enemy comes against the house of the Lord, because they have transgressed my covenant
And rebelled against My law.” And it says in Isaiah 27:24, “It will come about also in that day that a great trumpet will be blown, and those who were perishing in the land of Assyria and who were scattered in the land of Egypt will come and worship the Lord in the holy mountain at Jerusalem.”
Indeed, they will come and worship! After the trumpet, that glorious atonement — as when Moses took his stand between the dead and the living to make atonement for Israel — which will happen in Revelation 8 where it says in verse 5, “Then the angel took the censer and filled it with the fire of the altar, and threw it to the earth”, and in Ezekiel 10:2, after the great slaughter of Ezekiel 9/Revelation 7:1-3, “fill your hands with coals of fire from between the cherubim and scatter them over the city”.
Then following that, the tabernacles where Israel will be brought into the wilderness as Hosea affirms in Hosea 2:14, “Therefore, behold, I will allure her, bring her into the wilderness and speak kindly to her” and Ezekiel 34:25, “that they may live securely in the wilderness and sleep in the woods”, and Jeremiah 31:2, “The people who survived the sword found grace in the wilderness”, and Isaiah 43:19, “Behold, I will do something new… I will even make a roadway in the wilderness”.
I affirm all of this, and I seek it, for the Law is a shadow of the good things. Don’t harden yourself against my words, because I affirm these good things, not the shadows which you accuse me of not keeping.
I’m surprised that you understand we are in the second heaven and earth, but then you ought to know Peter said in 2 Peter 3:6-7, “through which the world [kosmos] at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.”
The previous heaven and earth was destroyed by water, and the current one is reserved for fire as he attests in 2 Peter 3:12-13, “the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat! But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.”
If it is reserved for fire, then it has not fallen away yet. If the current heaven and earth hasn’t been melted with intense heat, then the law still stands!
You say the Sabbath has fallen away with the law, but again, it says in Hebrews, “So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God”. Our minds must leave the shadows and come into the light.
Johan thanks please take it up with the censor (sorry moderator) who interferese with my correspondance continuously like a chief Rabbi of sorts. I really seek the right to reply but 2 of my last have vanished from their mind program script. Dankie.
Russ, you are brazen a liar. We have never “interferese” (sic) with your “correspondance” (sic). You have NEVER sent any messages to Johan in this comment section that we have “interfered” with. Lying is a sign of weakness and degeneracy, Russ–you blame us for your own failures. And you’ve been caught lying about us before–this is not new for you. If we catch you slandering us with another lie, you will be banned permanently from this website.
The only comments, not correspondence, we have “censored” of yours–which you have admitted to– have been ones where you either “condemned us to hell” for not believing in your judeo-Christian doctrines, or where you merely repeated yourself and ignored all evidence against your position, which you do constantly. You have only yourself to blame when your rare comments don’t get posted. We told you to stop being a liar and a hypocrite as a prerequisite to participating here, but that appears to be asking too much. Watch your step.
Great so what of false testimony. I have seen other complain of the same thing. You always attack and do not moderate. If I find my posting go mysteriously away how is it you do not trust me enough to try and understand? When you say comment is waiting moderation is there a time lapse on your program. Please know this often my posts evaporate even before my eyes. What am I to suggest to you that I am happy or lying. If two or more have the same experience then something is going on. Take it on faith I do find my reply’s no going through. So sorry Johan this has been an on going issue. There are many viruses attacking websites or individuals. Who knows.
Russ, you are lying. All comments are moderated–we do not sit around all day monitoring the comments to make sure they are approved immediately. The people who have complained about their comments being “censored” are rare–and we always explain why they have been censored, just like with your comments–and they are always the same people, for the same reasons getting “censored”.
To recap, Russ. You do not have discussions with anyone–you ignore all evidence that contradicts your position. Never, NOT ONCE, have you ever acknowledged that any of your objections have been factually answered. You are wasting everyone’s time here–sincere people who take the time to explain things to you believing that you are open to the truth–and you are not, nor have you ever been.
You are not an honest seeker of the truth. You are an unapologetic propagandist for for judeo-Christian dispensationalist replacement theology. Do not even pretend that you are open to be persuaded otherwise–you are not, nor ever will you be–if the behavior you’ve displayed here is any prediction of your future.
And do not even dare suggest that we’ve “censored” your views–you’ve made them abundantly clear despite all the evidence to the contrary. If you make any more false accusations about been “censored”, you will be permanently banned. This is your final warning.
I am familiar with the comment section dramas which play out here and have enough context to ascertain the matter for myself, which is why I appealed to you as I did. At the very least, I’m glad you’ve been replying, but do you think reviling and insulting CFT staff is in accordance with the fruits of the Spirit? “You will know them by their fruits”, after all.
— “When you say comment is waiting moderation is there a time lapse on your program. Please know this often my posts evaporate even before my eyes.” —
If you refresh the page directly after posting the comment, it will disappear. I assume this is a technical limitation. Once CFT have managed to review the comment, it will appear again.
How do two men work together in the night? How does one know where his fellow is if the fellow doesn’t call to him? What if the fellow chooses not to call, or the fellow feigns muteness because he doesn’t want to lift the log? Isn’t their work doomed from the start? Wouldn’t the man who calls look for another partner? Wouldn’t he wonder why his partner came to join him in work in the first place? Would you judge this and let me know your judgement?
For your convenience, I’ll post my reply on the timing of the Kingdom here:
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Joel says, “It will come about after this”, but Peter says, “And it shall be in the last days”.
Joel 2:31 says, “The sun will be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood”.
This is an event after Christ’s sacrifice, as we can see in Revelation 6:12. Therefore, we should be careful to formulate our own ideas of “ages” which has no root in Scripture. Joel said it would be that day, but in that day Peter says it will also be in the last days. The Revelation easily confirms this.
Consider also Luke 17:20-21 which says, “Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or, ‘There it is!’ For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst.””
We do experience the Kingdom of God if we have partaken of the Divine nature, but we should not deny the Scripture which says in Revelation 11:15 says when the seventh trumpet has sounded, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ”.
The kingdom of Christ reigns, but it is not yet the kingdom of the world. But it must become the kingdom of the world! How then? Luke 19:11 says, “While they were listening to these things, Jesus went on to tell a parable, because He was near Jerusalem, and they supposed that the kingdom of God was going to appear immediately.”
He tells them how He must leave, and then He must return to take account of their labor and reward them accordingly. In John 14 He says, “I go to prepare you a place”. Then in Luke 12:42-44, “And the Lord said, “Who then is the faithful and sensible steward, whom his master will put in charge of his servants, to give them their rations at the proper time? Blessed is that slave whom his master finds so doing when he comes. Truly I say to you that he will put him in charge of all his possessions.”
In Revelation 20:6 it says of the remnant of Israel and martyrs of all nations (Rev 7), “but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.”
Let us then consider that there must be a fulfillment of Israel, and a judgement upon the nations of the sons of Noah, from whom also will be many children of the Kingdom. There is indeed no need for weaponry, because the lawless one will be destroyed by the breath of His coming, at which time He will reign with His people. There is no eschatological schism of Jesus’ day and ours.
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Acts 1:6-8, “So when they had come together, they were asking Him, saying, “Lord, is it at this time You are restoring the kingdom to Israel?” He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority; but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth.””
Joel 2 was fulfilled in Acts 2 Last days was always the our pouring of the Holy Spirit. Notice in 1 Corith 13 where there are prophecy it will be done away. When in the last days? No. Last days of Judaism and the Old dispensation.
Hebrews 1:2
2But in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe.
This is clear evidence of a last days being 2000 yrs hence.
Now as to the Book of The Revelation. One city disappears Jerusalem earthly and one a city whose builder and maker is God descended. When 2000 yrs ago. Last days is the out pouring of Spirit for prophecy. Acts 2 for Israel and for gentiles Acts 10.
It does not say prophecy will be done away with, but rather it says, “Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part; but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away.”
Where does it say here that prophecy has fallen away? Has knowledge indeed fallen away then? How can prophecy have fallen away when “the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy”?
But prophecy WILL indeed fall away, because it says in Revelation 21:23, “And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the Lamb” When Isaiah prophesied to Hezekiah it says in Isaiah 30:26, “the light of the sun will be seven times brighter”. The sun of prophecy is no longer needed, as Paul says, “when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away”.
Thankfully we don’t have to conjecture what Peter meant by the “last days”, because Peter clarified himself when he also referred to “last days” in 2 Peter 3:3-4, “in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of His coming?” and in verse 10, “But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away”. Jude in parallel says, “In the last time there will be mockers… keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life”. The last days are inextricably linked to the second coming of Christ.
Even the writer of Hebrews says in Hebrews 9:26-28, “at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment, so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him.”
Indeed they believed it was the last days, but it was not. If only we had witness in Scripture that they might not know when are the times. But we do, as Christ told them in Acts 1:7, “It is not for you to know times or epochs” and in Matthew 24:36, “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone”. Peter said, “And it shall be in the last days”, but it was not the last days, because Christ did not return.
Then it must be a prophecy for the last days. As in Joel the sun goes black and the moon turns to blood, it happens in the Revelation as well. Then Joel must be referring to the Revelation, and Joel must be the last days, because the Revelation extends to the last days. It says in Joel 3:13, “Put in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe. Come, tread, for the wine press is full;” and in Revelation 14:15, “Put in your sickle and reap, for the hour to reap has come, because the harvest of the earth is ripe.” and in verse 20, “And the wine press was trodden outside the city”.
It says in Joel 3:15, “The sun and moon grow dark and the stars lose their brightness.” Christ says in Matthew 24:29-31, “the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.”
The end times culminate with the return of Christ and Peter knew it.
As for the city of Revelation 21, it cannot come until heaven and earth pass away. This cannot happen until the great burning of 2 Peter 3, which according to Peter happens at the same time as the return of Christ. Christ hasn’t returned yet, as this is not an event which can be mistaken or missed by anyone. It says in Revelation 21:4, “and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away.” These things haven’t passed away, so the city is not here yet.
Kind means variation in genesis. Birds were a wide variety. I once met a wealthy man who owned horses. He said they selected from the genes the body posture and slimness of race horse ankles. Well you do not have a selection with no diversity.
Being new to CFT, please tell me what CI stands for, and where do Italians fit in the scheme of things regarding Israelites as they are white too.
I’m Northern Italian.
signor, welcome, the northern Italians are descendants of the ancient Celts and Goths. Yes, these Celts and Goths were white and most likely have Israelite ancestry from the ten northern tribes of Israel.
Originally the Italian peninsula was settled by three main groups: the Italo-Celts in the north, the Etruscans, and the Greeks in the south. All of these groups were originally white, but the southern part was eventually darkened by the Muslim invasions, especially Sicily.
It was these Goths from the north who eventually conquered Rome and brought about its downfall.
CI basically believes that the ten northern tribes of Israel, after their captivity in Assyria, migrated north and west into Europe — which they did — and became known as the Scythians, Goths, Celts, and kindred peoples — the ancestors of today’s white European people. It was to these people that the promises of Abraham have been fulfilled and who have also fulfilled the Great Commission of Jesus Christ.
There were certainly earlier white migrations into Europe from earlier tribes from the Bible, such as the Japhethites and the Phoenicians, but they have all mixed together to form the Europeans as we known them today, as prophecied in the Bible. (Genesis 9:27)
Hope this helps as a start. If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask. Our readers are very knowledgeable on this subject.
A good introduction to the subject is Steven Collins’ book, “The Lost Ten Tribes of Israel Found” which you can read here:
https://christiansfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/The-Lost-Ten-Tribes-Of-Israel…Found_.pdf
Signor, I have read that traditionally northern Italians often discouraged marriages with southern Italians for racial reasons. This makes sense to me, considering the southern Italians don’t look the same as the ones in the north.
I have a friend who is Italian, but he has red hair and blue eyes, obviously from the north, nothing like the southern Italians.
Paul Kent…
You are right about northerners in Italy not marrying southerners in Italy. Southern Italians are looked down on by northerners, generally speaking.
Signor, I saw this funny meme comparing northern and southern Italians….
https://ifunny.co/meme/northern-italian-vs-southern-italian-northern-italian-vs-southern-italian-bXwOyhNn7
Just learn Jewish math and all will go well: “6,000,000 – 1 = 3 to 5 years.”
DNA study proves early inhabitants of Israel had white skin and blue eyes:
https://christiansfortruth.com/dna-study-finds-early-inhabitants-of-israel-were-blue-eyed-and-fair-skinned/
Thanks for the great work you are doing here at CFT!
Yahweh bless.
Interesting that Emry cites Romans 4:13, which universalists always butcher as “proof” that the new covenant wasn’t to Abraham’s physical seed, but nothing could be further from the truth.
There are two covenants referred to in Romans 4:23–the unconditional covenant that Abraham’s seed would become many nations and his descendants would be vast in number. However, there were also conditional promises to Abraham’s seed (Deuteronomy 28)–and God would fulfill those promises only under the condition of righteousness. And that’s exactly what Romans 4:13 states….
“For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.”
If the Anglo-Saxon and related European peoples are not Israel, then who is? Where did the vast ten northern tribes go? And they could not have disappeared into the mists of time because Christ said he came to regather them (Matthew 15:24). Even if you believe that today’s “Jews” are Judah (which they obviously are not), but if you believe that, what happened to the rest of Israel?
No judeo-Christian minister can or will answer this question–because the answer will destroy his universalist interpretation of scripture. The northern ten tribes must have disappeared completely in order for these ministers to maintain their charade.
What are the fingerprints of Israel? What clues did they leave behind to help identify them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFlSpIqq5Ug
The so-called “lost” tribes were the ones that chose to remain in Babylon when the two returned to Palestine ….. they were “LOST to ISRAEL” nor lost as could not be found.
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shameful my other comment was removed — makes me compare you to facebook & twitter
Alberticus, your other comment was not posted because it was patently absurd–that the White Anglo-Saxon people originated in Siberia–and Zoroastrian mystics and hearsay are not credible sources of evidence. Your blind hatred of Jews has completely misled you down a rabbit hole into occult Eastern mysticism. No, we are not going to post that nonsense here–there are websites that would welcome it, but we are not one of them. This isn’t the first time we’ve edited and or removed your comments.
Go look into the migration patterns — and read your own articles — https://christiansfortruth.com/zionist-jews-reveal-their-vested-interest-in-defending-myth-that-jesus-was-a-jew/
CAUCASIAN — SEMITIC, different people, different DNA
Get the Popcorn ready!!! Here come the shills. 🙂
Thanks for the Post CFT!