Here we will continue to look at some of the evidence put forth by Charles Weisman in his booklet, Facts And Fictions Regarding Noah’s Flood showing the problems with the notion that the Flood was worldwide.
Again, we are looking at Weisman’s work not because we wholeheartedly endorse it — but rather because he raises some serious questions that all Christians need to be able to answer, especially concerning “race” in the Bible. Most Christians just assume that — somehow — all “races” came from Adam and Eve — and because of the subsequent Flood — all “races” also — somehow — came from Noah and his wife.
Those Christians who promote the idea that Noah’s Flood in the Bible was worldwide run into a serious difficulty explaining how all the different racial types of people descended from the only surviving people — the eight members of Noah’s family.
They’ve been forced to come up with some wild theories to account for this post-flood racial diversity — such as the idea that merely speaking different languages and scattering people across the world (Genesis 11:9) magically changed their genetics and created different racial groups. Ironically, even if we believe this theory, then we must also believe that genetic diversity arose as the result of sin and God’s wrath against His people — not exactly something to celebrate.
However, we know that Noah’s family were all of the same race — they were Adamic, direct unmixed descendants of Adam and Eve. Genesis 6:9 tells us that Noah was “perfect in his generations” — “generations” (Strong’s 8435), meaning perfect according to his genealogy or “records of his generations.” This same word — “generations” — is used the same way in Genesis 10:32 when the genealogies of the tribes that descended from Noah’s sons are given to us — the bloodlines of the Genesis 10 nations (same use in Genesis 10:1).
Why is this important? Of all the people who descended from Adam, God chose Noah to preserve because he was unblemished morally and physically. If God is going to wipe the slate clean and then replenish the Earth with people, He would chose another pure Adamic man just like Adam who had not been corrupted.
The Bible is the story of only one specific people — “the generations of Adam” (Genesis 5:1) — as they are traced down through the 12 Tribes of Israel in an unbroken line. This idea is important because this is the particular bloodline that ultimately leads to Christ — who must be an umblemished sacrifice to cleanse the Adamic/Israelite people of their sin, as is explained to us in Hebrews 9.
The preservation of Noah’s bloodline is an example of what geneticists call a “Population Bottle Neck” — where a population is greatly reduced by some catastrophic event such as a natural disaster, famine, or war. Such events always lead to a great reduction in genetic diversity — while greatly increasing the genetic homogeneity of the small extant population.
The Great Flood was just such an event — and from a genetic point of view, it made the people in the Post-Flood world far more genetically homogeneous rather than more diverse — making it very difficult to explain how all the racial diversity we see today — only 5,000 years later — could have descended from one racially homogeneous family on the Ark.
Weisman writes:
Racial Evidence Of A Worldwide Flood?
Perhaps one of the more difficult problems proponents of a universal flood have to answer, and one they most often avoid, is how could the eight survivors of the Flood produce the numerous racial types of man that exist upon the earth.
A belief of the “Christian” sect known as creationism is that all the world was populated from the descendants of Noah’s three sons. In other words, “all tribes and races came from a common ancestral population [see Henry M. Morris, Scientific Creationism, p. 183]. Creationists are forced to place this common population — consisting of eight persons — some time after the Flood since they believe in the extinction of all people by a universal Flood.
Noah and his family were obviously of one race. The Bible states that Noah was “perfect in
his generations” (Gen. 6:9). The word “generations” [note the plural] here is the Hebrew word “T0LEDAH”– and means “descent.” Noah was perfect in his descent from Adam — meaning his lineage had not mixed with any other races — [as Cain did]. Creationists try to tell us that this racially pure family developed (or “evolved”) into the present day races, but never specifically explain how, when or why this transformation occurred.
The concept that all nations and races descended from Noah’s sons did not originate with the
early Christian writers. When the famous naturalist and zoologist Georges Cuvier devised his
classification of races in 1790, he listed three types: Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid.
Soon afterwards many started comparing this classification with Noah’s three sons — Shem, Ham and Japheth. As racial distinctions became more evident and debated, the churches and literalists picked up on Cuvier’s classification and molded it into a new religious doctrine. They taught that the Negroid race descended from Ham, the Mongoloid race from Japheth, and the Caucasian race from Shem. This doctrine insults and contradicts both the word of God and science.
Cuvier’s classification of races occurred just prior to the advent of Egyptology the studying and discovering of the ruins of ancient Egypt by such men as Jean-Francois Champollion in the 1820’s. The ancient Egyptian monuments, tombs, and temples reveal a vast storehouse of ethnographical records in the form of paintings, mummies and sculptures displaying different racial types of man.
Certain racial types can be distinguished in paintings and sculptures dating as far back as the 4th millennium B.C., as Prof. Coon explains:
“…racial differentiation can be traced back to at least 3,000 B.C., as evidenced in Egyptian records, particularly the artistic representations.”
Carleton Coon, The Origin of the Races, 1962, p.3
In the era just after the Flood (2300 to 2000 B.C.) there appear many clear and well-marked
racial types in the paintings and sculptures from Egypt as well as Mesopotamia. By 1600
B.C., an even greater diversity of distinct racial types can be found. Each of these types are
represented as they appear today showing that they were permanent throughout all history
and had never undergone any type of transformation.
Creationists would have us believe that eight white people who existed after the Flood —
somehow — changed into different racial types almost instantaneously. Why is it that this type
of drastic evolutionary change has never occurred since that time? After all, if we can believe that such a racial transformation occurred, then there should be no reason not to believe any manner of evolution occurring over tens of millions of years — for the latter is more believable than the former.
It is important to understand the hypocrisy and inconsistency that “creationism” rests upon.
Creationists are allowed to do the impossible because they are supposedly “on God’s side,” but
evolutionists are not allowed to use the same principles in presenting their ideas — [because they are atheists.]
Evolution is evolution whether used by “creationists” or “evolutionists.” Thus if an amphibian
could not gradually evolve into a reptile, then a group of white people could not have evolved
into Negroes, Indians, Chinese, Polynesians, Pygmies, etc., especially in just a few hundred
years time or less.
The racial evidence supplied to us by the ancient paintings and sculptures from Egypt and
elsewhere clearly dispels a any foolish notion of a worldwide flood. This evidence of the
antiquity and permanence of the races — which is verified by the basic laws of genetics — proves that all people could not have been destroyed in a universal Flood.
In an attempt to overcome this obvious problem, some have suggested Noah brought a representative pair of each race on the Ark [see John Whitcomb’s book, The Genesis Flood: The Biblical Record And Its Scientific Implications]. However, in speaking of the Flood, Peter says that only “eight souls were saved” on the Ark (1 Peter 3:20 & 2 Peter 2:5). The only way then to get the other races on the Ark is to say that these other races are not regarded as people, but are inferior “beasts” or “living creatures.” The claim that other races were on the Ark is sheer speculation.
The ethnologists and anthropologists have shown that every single racial type that existed prior to the time of the Flood existed after it. This proves that the Flood must have been confined to a specific geographical area.
[Just as “all men” could not be descended from “one blood“], all people on earth could not have been destroyed by the Flood as creationists claim. In Luke 17:26-29, Christ likens the “days of Noah” with the “days of Lot.” In each case the people experienced a catastrophe which “destroyed them all.” Yet everyone acknowledges that “in the days of Lot” all the people on earth were not literally destroyed — only all the people in Sodom were. Likewise, only all the people in the Flood were destroyed, not all the people on earth.
It cannot be supported by any rational or biblical means that all races were destroyed by a
flood — and then instantaneously reappeared or were formed thereafter. It is infinitely more
logical that all races were separately created by God on the planet — and they each survived the Flood — as did numerous other life forms — by being outside its realm and geographical
influence.
Bertrand Comparet and Charles Weisman apparently used Ussher’s chronology, which was based on the Masoretic Text timeline to make their cases. The Masoretic chronology was corrupted by Jews to deny that Jesus was the Messiah.
The Septuagint timeline is far more likely to be accurate. In that timeline, the flood occurred around approximately 3298 BC. I believe that is more accurate. The Masoretic Text conflicts with ancient Egyptian history and implies that the pyramids were built before the flood. Modern CI theorists should accept the Septuagint’s chronology.
A worldwide flood is still in conflict with archaeology and anthropology. Amerindians and Australoids were already in the Americas or Australia way before the flood would have happened. There is no candidate out of Japheth, Ham, or Shem that they could have realistically come from.
And if those two races are pre-Adamites, it’s highly likely that sub-Saharan Africans and yellow Asians are too. That’s the biggest reason I support the pre-Adamite doctrine.
Racially egalitarian Christians who deny my theory will find themselves fighting a battle with secular history and genetics to explain the Genesis, while I do not need to. Good luck to them.
James Smith ….
“…… highly likely ….. “
I’d say “…a proven Observational Fact…”.
There is no other explanation.
🙂
“It is infinitely more logical that all races were separately created by God on the planet”
I remember a story by a southamerican tribe that said they were created by a White man who build them from the sand, when the Spaniards later came the natives identified them with their God and surrendered peacefully.
Also one of the Gods worshipped by the aztecs was a man on a x-shaped cross.
Adriaan……………
You wrote on September 17th —
“….About the origin of the races, let me just find a specific text in the Bible and you will be stunned about the truth….”
Are you still looking for that specific text? I eagerly wait to be “stunned” to learn something I’ve never encountered in the Scripures.
If these sources are true and don’t present any mistakes then what is your take on Adam and Methuselah living hundreds of years?
Some historian pointed out that the way they calculated their ages was wrong and that in reality they didn’t live past their 60s-70s.
Also if they lived that much they would have surely done something of notice, I don’t think they lived to 900 years of age doing nothing but chilling around.
On day #3 God created “Adam” (Genesis 2 – “a living soul”) as custodian of the garden’s tree of life.
On day #6, with Adam’s blood, God created Eve and the founders of other races (Genesis 1 – “image of God”) to have dominion over the rest of the world (called “sons of God” in Genesis 6 and “gods” in Psalm 82).
Noah was from Adam’s line, but his wife and his son’s wives were from the other races. Noah had Ham from a different woman, another race.
So Noah’s Ark carried the genetics of all the races who spread over the earth afterwards: Southward Ham (blacks); Eastward Shem (Orientals); North and Westward Japheth (Europeans).
Noah’s prophecy is that Japheth would be enlarged and dwell in the tents of Shem – meaning the White man’s inheriting the dominion of the world via (1st) absorption of the lost-tribes of Joseph and (2nd) the adoption of Christianity.
Thus there is no “problem” of racial diversity. The races of the world came from Noah and are all “Adamite” but they are not intrinsically evil unthinking and soulless beasts. All races bear the image of God (Genesis 1) and have souls that can be saved.
” Many shall be purified, and made white….” Daniel 12:10
Niles wrote, “Noah was from Adam’s line, but his wife and his son’s wives were from the other races. Noah had Ham from a different woman, another race. ”
Sorry, Niles, but you made that up. All of it. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Noah’s son’s wives were “from other races”. Nowhere. Which verse did you get that from?
You have to claim that they were from other races, otherwise, you cannot account for the other races in Scripture. So you just make it all up.
That you have to make something like that up to support your theory proves that your theory is wrong. Give it up. There is no way the Israelites descended from “mixed race” people. That would also mean Jesus was mixed race, and that is impossible because that would mean He wasn’t a suitable unblemished sacrifice. Sorry no. Never happened.
Geneticists Discover Adam’s Original White Skin Gene — Traced Back To One Man In Middle East About 10,000 Years Ago:
https://christiansfortruth.com/scientists-discover-adams-original-white-skin-gene-traced-back-to-one-man-in-middle-east-about-10000-years-ago/
“Likewise, only all the people in the Flood were destroyed, not all the people on earth.”
As the previous article mentioned, Weisman’s pamphlet posits that many ancient civilizations survived the Flood, including the Minoans, Egyptians, and the Phoenicians. I am not sure why those people would have been spared, and I am confused as the Egyptians are supposed to be descended from Noah grandson Mizraim.
Even more confusing is that the Phoenicians are closely tied to the Israelites, and a sizeable contingent of the Israelite diaspora is considered to have dispersed into its colonies when Israel was subjugated. The Phoenicians are supposed to be descended from Noah’s grandson Canaan.
Both Mizraim and Canaan were born after the Flood, so how could their civilizations have been antediluvian?
RB…………….
Forget Weisman’s treatise for the moment.
What is “Your” belief of the flood — Local or Worldwide?
And honestly …………….. does it really matter?
What is the overall topic you want to defend.
For me …………….. I don’t really care one way or the other – local or worldwide. But what bothers me is when “christians” try to guilt trip me and call me a hater because I don’t believe all the races come from Adam and Eve and or Noah and his family.
How about you?
If “earth” with regards to the Flood could mean a local area, then does that jibe with Genesis 9:11, where God states that He will never again destroy the “earth” with a flood?
Naturally, there have been many instances since then of parts of the earth being obliterated completely by floods: Port Royal, Jamaica, the sin city of the classic Caribbean, etc.
On the theory that the non-Whites were on the Ark, I find it odd that Charles Weisman seems to suggest that only Israelites can be saved, but yet here he is certain that non-Whites have souls like Noah. Why would races not covered by Christianity have eternal souls in the same way as Noah and his kin?
RB….
I think you misunderstood what Weisman was saying about non-whites and “souls”. Re-read it again.
“… some have suggested Noah brought a representative pair of each race on the Ark [see John Whitcomb’s book, The Genesis Flood: The Biblical Record And Its Scientific Implications]. ….”
He is speaking for “others” who suggest 2 of every non-white peoples were on the Ark.
Re-read it again. Cheers.
However, in speaking of the Flood, Peter says that only “eight souls were saved” on the Ark (1 Peter 3:20 & 2 Peter 2:5). The only way then to get the other races on the Ark is to say that these other races are not regarded as people, but are inferior “beasts” or “living creatures.” The claim that other races were on the Ark is sheer speculation.
As I am reading the article, and the PDF, it appears to me that the quoted text above, rebutting the idea that there were non-Whites on the Ark, is Weisman’s own thought on the matter.
This seems like an incomplete rebuttal, as it doesn’t state why would it be incorrect to hold that these other races are not regarded as people in the Bible.
RB…
“….rebutting the idea that there were non-Whites on the Ark, is Weisman’s own thought on the matter…..”
Yes, I concur.
“…This seems like an incomplete rebuttal, as it doesn’t state why would it be incorrect to hold that these other races are not regarded as people in the Bible….”
You lost me here. Could you re-explain/ask? Not sure the overall point you are making.
Hmm.
“They’ve been forced to come up with some wild theories to account for this post-flood racial diversity — such as the idea that merely speaking different languages and scattering people across the world (Genesis 11:9) magically changed their genetics and created different racial groups.”
Seems very ‘straw man’ and ‘leading.’
Noah was perfect. His daughter in laws…?
Or take..
Judged abominable Giant 6-fingered Goliath (and all Canaanites) several generations later?
Or take..
People going from 900+yrs old to 120yrs.
Or take..
Miriam, being judged and God instantly changed her appearance.
Or take..
Godless genetic altering of the past 30 years?
It doesn’t take long for sin to corrupt Spirit—to—Flesh.
Lets just remember as we continue down this discussion of diluting God’s Word, power, authority, and Glory…
“And the water prevailed exceedingly upon the earth, and covered ALL THE HIGH MOUNTAINS WHICH WERE UNDER HEAVEN. 20Fifteen cubits upwards was the water raised, and it covered all the high mountains.”
—Genesis 7:19-20 [Septuagint LXX]
Blessings in King and Savior Jesus Christ
RE: Noah’s daughter in laws….
As I pointed out to another commenter who brought up the same point
Why would God bother preserving Noah for being “perfect in his generations” if his wife is not (or if his daughter in laws were not)? That would defeat the whole purpose of choosing Noah for preservation, no?
I guess your view of God is that He isn’t smart enough to cover all his bases when it came to replenishing the Adamic bloodline. A pure bloodline had to be preserved for Christ to be an unblemished sacrifice.
God preserved what He wished, according to His will and purpose, to bring many to ultimate salvation through Jesus Christ.
Do you believe God messed up by allowing evil, fallen angels, or the adversary to exist?
God did provide a line to Christ through Shem, who has no Nephilim giants. Though Ham’s did. More likely the branch of Canaan with such genetic variations as Goliath is likely attributed to successive sins of the fathers. Likely started by the abominable genetic corrupting act of Ham sleeping with his mother (Leviticus 18:8) to create Canaan (who was cursed, Not Ham – Gen 9:25).
I don’t believe preserving genetic (race) diversity is something God got wrong – but it is allowed just as sin, which will like all things work together for the good of those that love God.
“Ye took counsel against me for evil, but God took counsel for me for good, that the matter might be as it is to-day, and much people might be fed.” — Gen 50:20 LXX
*Last note.
I am not condoning race mixing. But do know God’s salvation through Jesus is for all.
“After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of all tribes, peoples, and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands.”
—Revelation 7:9
CS Michael, like most universalist juedo-Christians, you completely made up the “genetic corruption” in Leviticus 18:8. It says no such thing. But because you have to account for the other races, you invent a meaning of the “curse” to mean genetic corruption. This is a classic example of “begging the question”. It’s all in your mind, not in the Bible.
The only “genetic corruption” going on in the Bible happens when a pure Adamic mixes with a non-Adamic, and yes, there were/are plenty of non-Adamics to corrupt the bloodline of Adam. Obviously, Noah understood race mixing was a sin, which is why he and his family were preserved. It wasn’t only the Israelites who understood this.
CS Michael,
Let me just ask the obvious —
What are you saying then? Are you suggesting all the Peoples of the World are related to Noah and His Family?
How about Adam and Eve? Did all the peoples of the world pre-flood come from the loins of Adam and Eve?
Hi West,
I got your message, sorry for delay. Here’s based on my best understanding of what the scriptures say, and not stacking chips on what it doesn’t say.
Yes I believe All are from Adam and Eve.
“And Adam called the name of his wife Life, because she was the mother of all living.”
—Gen 3:21
However major alterations were made by Spiritual beings assuming flesh (Gen 6).
And then bottled necked into 8 people (in an Ark, as an Ark) with everything needed physically for physical differences to emerge, as I’ve stated earlier. Especially in the cases of the daughter in laws — “all flesh had corrupted its way upon the earth.” —Gen 6:11
I believe these variations are a by-product of spiritual and physical sins of the fathers – a breaking of God’s law and order. These sins are to be visited till the 3rd and 4th generation. (Exodus 34:6-7 / Deuteronomy 5:8-10).
So a society that bases itself on God’s order and Logos will remain, though one that bases itself on the Adversary/Satan (The serpent’s seed) will fall very quickly into compound sins of the fathers.
Spiritual sin manifesting through pronounced physical changes and alterations — as seen with modern trans/transhumanism as-well as the ancient land of 6-fingered giant Canaanites who had also rejected God completely [post-flood].
“And if the Lord had not shortened the days, not any flesh would have been saved; but on account of the elect whom He chose, He has shortened the days.” —Mark 13:20
Finally, and again, God’s salvation through Jesus is for all.
“After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of all tribes, peoples, and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands.”
—Revelation 7:9
Blessings West,
CS Michael
Thank you Michael,
So then “Kind after Kind” does not refer to Human Beings.
I think I read a comment of yours somewhere (I could be wrong so I apologize because I am making an assumption here) stating that you believe we should not race mix.
You are Pro-White I believe. But maybe not.
But I do appreciate your honesty. Thanks, West.
For the Record —– I do not believe that the 4 primary races emerge from the loins of Adam and Eve. I am a Pre-Adamic Creationist.
In regards to Salvation of the non-white races —- I will leave this up for God to decide. I personally would never tell a non-white person they have no business believing in the Bible. That said, I’m not going to go out of my way to evangelize them either. If I had it my way, I’d prefer to live in a Country or even just a place that is majority White. I like White peoples the most. I used to live in Atlanta and although I may have known a few blacks that didn’t bother me, for the most part, I avoided them altogether. I have known a few Asian peoples who I have enjoyed their company.
I have nothing against non-white peoples. I just prefer to be around people who look like me and then of course think and act like me. Even the Asians that I knew and enjoyed being around, our friendship only went so far. We were just “different” in many ways (culturally).
Hi West,
Yes Im definitely pro my own tribe (German/Hungarian/White-European) and have kept my family secured in the Mid-West heart of my fellow people. We all speak the same language, know the Gospel, and help each other out – especially in winter and hard times.
I know the kind after kind doctrine, though I don’t subscribe to it as a core for my view on interracial marriage. I think the primary reason for shadowing of this in our people’s (true Israel) ancient days is to reflect a spiritual principle of not serving other Gods and being yoked to them in anyway; Illustrated so well by Ahab marrying the Baal-worshipping Jezabel. They were not spiritually or culturally, equally yoked. He barely had an identity in his father’s God, and Jezabel clearly Did have identity in her father’s God — Baal.
So I want to specific that my current understanding of my heart, is that other racial groups, more times than not, are not sold-out to the identity of Christianity (Identity in Jesus) and likely adversarial to our identity not only has Christians but to our actual history.
This makes other groups extremely suseptable for:… ‘Gog and Magog gather them, to surround the camp of the saints (Christians). To me Gog and Magog to me are Talmudic and Masonic powers led by Satan, and all that are being gathered are anti-Christs with identity in anything Other than Jesus— be it blood, the past, political movement, religion, or lodge. They are a proxy being led to surround (Not overtake) us.
So Im with you that I have nothing against non-whites but prefer to be around other Christians that respect (and would fight to defend) the culture and truth of Christianity.
But I think at this point “The Camp” of revelation 20, is really just our individual homes and very tight small communities (if that). And my wife and I guard ours very intentionally. We don’t let our kids do sleep overs, we meet their friends, no smart phones, etc.. When my daughters are old enough to be courted, that will consist of family dinners, and family outings. My daughters won’t be moving out of the house until they are ready to married by a tested man from a strong family with their identity in Jesus.
Last word on this. If God brings any man in my path, 1 on 1, I will always be ready to share the blood of the lamb and my testimony of finding Him. I believe the Gospel isn’t something we can ever bury and hope it multiplies. Though I believe it’s most likely in my experience the harvest that God is looking for us to be apart of is our own small white towns — Our actual physical neighbors (especially right now).
Blessings,
CS Michael
The Australian Aborigines have been in Australia since long before Adam was created circa 7,000 BC. They have been there for 10s of thousands of years living in a virtual Stone Age.
There is zero evidence that the Aborigines arrived in Australia via sea travel in the last 7,000 years, as they have no history of sea travel whatsoever, even in dug out canoes.
The Aborigines simply cannot be descendants of Adam or his kind. The idea that they descend more recently from Noah is simply laughable.
End of the universalist pipe dream that all “races” or peoples could have come from Adam.
Let’s not forget the African Pygmies. According to their genetic markers, they are unrelated to any other population group, even in Africa. They have been genetically isolated from other groups for as long as 60,000 years. That’s long before Adam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_peoples
If any judeo-Christian can explain to me how the Pygmies are descendants of Noah, please let me know. I’m all ears.
Watson…… ( & Czech Mate)
“….If any judeo-Christian can explain to me how the Pygmies are descendants of Noah, please let me know. I’m all ears…..”
Me too! We’ve had many critics here lately and they try to guilt trip us with the accusation of “hate”. But when we ask these types of questions to them, they run and hide. They come here, drop their slander bomb and never return to face our questions/objections.
This is why I had to leave the brick and mortars. They just couldn’t answer simple questions. I would get ridiculed, patronized, shammed and even ostracized. By my own flesh and blood family as well.
Again ………… this is all just proof to me that we are walking in the right direction and they are not. Truth should not be ignored. It should stand against all questions and objections.
According to their theology, we should be able to remove every White icelander from Iceland and replace them with 500,000 pure blacks from the Congo. Restrict immigration. And then within 2 to 3 thousand years, Iceland will turn White once again.
I long for the day when a judeo-christian bodly proclaims to me — YES — Iceland will again return to being White.
But I don’t think that will ever happen.
Czech Mate — Great comment! Thanks.
In 2018, Iceland received its first resident rabbi, (((Avi Feldman))).
In 2019, a congolese African in Iceland was crowned “Miss Universe Iceland”. What a cohencidence.
At this rate, within our lifetime I fear you’ll be able to prove your point against evolution from the opposite approach, that Icelanders have gone to black from White, despite the lack of light.
🙂
according to jewish tradition, noah had 4 wives but ony one came on the ark with (noah’s) mulatto son . This particular wife’s name was naamath ? the sister of tubal cain. Check cain’s genealogy and Tubalcain is the last name with his sister in cain’s genealogy found in Genesis. Japheth is the ony White son that came on the Ark.
“…according to jewish tradition…”
“Jewish tradition” means the Talmud, or Mishna, or the oral “traditions of the elders” which arose out of Babylon and are repeatedly reviled in the New Testament. None of these “traditions” have any validity vis a vis The Bible. They reflect how the rabbis disagree with the what the real Bible or The Torah actually says.
There is nothing Biblical about “jewish tradition”, such as sucking the blood off baby penises during circumcision.
“Jewish tradition” claims that both Adam and Eve had literal sexual intercourse with the serpent.
No wonder that people with these “traditions” rejected Christ and continued to reject Christ for the last 2,000 years.
luke says when the israelis take back old jerusalem, the time of the gentiles is over! this happened in 1967 with the 6 day war. We are in the vestiges of Christian civilization. This is why the u.s. supreme court is for gay rights and other liberal causes. We are in the age of the Anti Christ. Even Jewish men are trying to create a strong resistance against the growing cause of jewish lesbianism!
“luke says when the israelis take back old jerusalem, the time of the gentiles is over!”
What are you talking about? The “Israelis”? Where in the Bible are the “Israelis” mentioned? The “Israelis”, the fake “Jews” (Revelation 3:9) that now occupy Palestine, are not real Israelites, if that’s what you mean. The fact that you think Israelis are Israelites of prophecy shows just how clueless you really are. You just make stuff up as you go. Sorry, I can’t take you seriously. Stop wasting people’s time. Read, educate yourself:
https://christiansfortruth.com/who-are-jews/
Universalists have the same problem when it comes to Noah and his wife as they do with Adam and Eve.
Same race couples producing multi-racial descendants.
It just cannot happen.
Who wrote the Bible? Israelites. Why? The Bible is the history of the Israelites and no other people.
Therefore, Genesis starts with the beginning of the Israelite race or tribe, and that is Adam
The Israelites were white, and therefore, Adam must have been white (“ruddy”).
The Bible is about the history of white people.
Why is this idea so controversial and hard to accept by mainstream Christians?
Verses from the Bible that clearly describe the Israelites as white:
1 Samuel 17:42:
“And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth and ruddy and of a fair countenance…”
Solomon 5:10:
“My beloved is white and ruddy the chiefest among ten thousand…”
Lamentations 4:7:
“Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk they were more ruddy in body than rubies…”
Isaiah 29:22:
“Therefore thus saith God, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the house of Jacob, Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall his face now wax pale.”
1Samuel 16:12:
“So he sent and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, with beautiful eyes and a handsome appearance. And God said, “Arise, anoint him; for this is he.””
Psalm 51:7:
“Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean; Wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.”
Description of Abraham’s wife Sarah from the Dead Sea Scrolls:
“…Her skin was pure white…”
Because they have been brainwashed by the Judaizers who stand in the pulpits, who have been brainwashed by the Judaizers occupying the halls of seminaries. Plus, despite all the avenues and networks of information, people are still close minded; especially in the churches. Christian Identity to them is racist, homophobic and whatever label they slap you with.
Their wives could not have been differing races? Bible says nothing about them.
Why would God bother preserving Noah for being “perfect in his generations” if his wife is not? That would defeat the whole purpose of choosing Noah for preservation, no?
Although it’s not officially one of the Ten Commandments, God clearly meant to include “racism” as a sin, but must have forgotten to include it, because if you listen to most denominational churches today, they speak of “racism” as a far worse sin than any of the original (and surviving) Ten Commandments.
Of course you can’t get any more “racist” than claiming that the Israelites are “God’s chosen people”, but for some reason, denominational Christians give God a free pass on that conceit of superiority handed down by God Himself.
And Christians also give Jesus Christ a free pass when He said that He came only for the lost sheep of the House of Israel. You can’t get much less “inclusive” than Jesus here.
But when any white person expresses any similar sentiments toward their own kind, they are demonized as if they couldn’t possibly commit a more evil act that is eternally offensive to both God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son.
This is textbook Christian hypocrisy.
Great comment.
You make an interesting observation — my experience with White judeo-christians — they will defend jews as God’s chosen with their life; but when you try to educate them as to the True identity of the Scriptural Israelites — they recoil in horror. “That’s anti-semitism!” “You are a racist!”
They will protect and defend the jews, but not their own peoples.
It’s Supernatural. And for me ……. only confirms the Truth.
The way some “anti-racist” Christians get away with the whole idea of “chosen-ness” is to just claim that Israelites no longer exist, completely ignoring Christ when He said He came to regather the tribes of Israel.
They were regathered and renamed — white European Christians.
I don’t know if this has been shared here before but here is a great site with videos of the tribes of Israel in Europe, and elsewhere.
https://truthvids.net/
Are you the Dries from Schild & Vrienden and Vlaams Belang?
@Hans From Holland
Yes, that’s me.
Here is a photo of me with my fellow European freedom fighter, Tommy Robinson.
https://imginn.org/p/BvPKBCwFF5u/
Nigro’s have DNA markers that no others have, and you can believe your eyes all other groups are related? similar DNA? I read somewhere.