In 1904, Zionist leader Theodore Herzl was able to gain an audience with Pope Pius X to garner his support for a Jewish homeland in Turkish-occupied Palestine. The Pope flat out refused to entertain any such idea — rightly claiming that the Church could not in any way support the presence of Christ-denying Jews in the land made holy by Jesus Christ.
While we would agree with the Pope’s decision to rebuff Herzl, we would disagree with him that the “Jewish faith was the foundation” of Christianity — and that Christianity had “superceded” Judaism. Judaism — which is based on the Babylonian Talmud not the Old Testament — was created after the death of Christ and the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD — and arose out of the oral “traditions of the elders.”
Perhaps the Pope was merely humoring Herzl on this issue — after all, the Church was well-aware of what is written in the Talmud — having ordered it burned many times — and that it is the basis of Judaism.
This account of the meeting from Theodore Herzl’s diaries was reproduced as an apendix in Barry Horner’s 2004 book, Judeo-Centric Eschatology: An Ethical Challenge To Reformed Eschatology. In an introduction to this entry, Horner’s comments clearly show great sympathy for Herzl’s position — while appearing to chastise the Pope for being un-Christian-like. Horner writes,
“…Much of Herzl’s remaining time was spent in courting world leaders, both Jewish and non-Jewish, with the goal of enlisting financial and political support for his dream of a Jewish state. In 1904 he became acquainted with a Papal Count, B. Lippay, who assured Herzl that should he visit Rome, he could arrange an audience with Pope Pius X. In a short while, such a meeting was arranged, and the following account of this meeting is taken from The Diaries of Theodor Herzl.
The relevance of the conversation that took place between this secular Jew and a professed world Christian leader, will become obvious. In an early entry of Herzl’s diary there is an interesting confession in which, at the age of 35, he reflects upon his earlier encounter with Christianity:
“At first the Jewish question [of European anti-Semitism] vexed me bitterly. There was perhaps a time when I would have gladly slipped over into some corner of the Christian fold. But, in any case, this was only a faint vagary born of adolescent weakness. For I can say to myself with the honesty demanded by this diary—which would be utterly worthless if I played the hypocrite with myself—that I never thought seriously of becoming baptized or changing my name.”
[Herzl’s inner thoughts and summaries are put in bracketed italics.]
Rome. January 26, 
Yesterday I was with the Pope [Pius X]. . . .I arrived ten minutes ahead of time, and without having to wait I was conducted through a number of small reception rooms to the Pope.
He received me standing and held out his hand, which I did not kiss. Lippay had told me I had to do it, but I didn’t. I believe this spoiled my chances with him, for everyone who visits him kneels and at least kisses his hand. This hand kiss had worried me a great deal and I was glad when it was out of the way.
He seated himself in an armchair, a throne for minor affairs, and invited me to sit by his side. He smiled in kindly anticipation. I began:
HERZL: I thank Your Holiness for the favor of granting me this audience. [I begged him to excuse my miserable Italian, but he said]:
POPE: No, Signor Commander, you speak very well.
HERZL: [He is an honest, rough-hewn village priest, to whom Christianity has remained a living thing even in the Vatican. I briefly laid my request before him. But annoyed perhaps by my refusal to kiss his hand, he answered in a stern categorical manner.]
POPE: We are unable to favor this movement [of Zionism]. We cannot prevent the Jews from going to Jerusalem — but we could never sanction it. The ground of Jerusalem, if it were not always sacred, has been sanctified by the life of Jesus Christ. As the head of the Church I cannot answer you otherwise. The Jews have not recognized our Lord, therefore we cannot recognize the Jewish people.
HERZL: [The conflict between Rome and Jerusalem, represented by the one and the other of us, was once again under way. At the outset I tried to be conciliatory. I said my little piece. . . . It didn’t greatly impress him. Jerusalem was not to be placed in Jewish hands.] And its present status, Holy Father?
POPE: I know, it is disagreeable to see the Turks in possession of our Holy Places. We simply have to put up with it. But to sanction the Jewish wish to occupy these sites, that we cannot do.
HERZL: [I said that we based our movement solely on the sufferings of the Jews, and wished to put aside all religious issues].
POPE: Yes, but we, but I as the head of the Catholic Church, cannot do this. One of two things will likely happen. Either the Jews will retain their ancient faith and continue to await the Messiah whom we believe has already appeared — in which case they are denying the divinity of Jesus and we cannot assist them. Or else they will go there with no religion whatever, and then we can have nothing at all to do with them.
The Jewish faith was the foundation of our own, but it has been superceded by the teachings of Christ, and we cannot admit that it still enjoys any validity. The Jews who should have been the first to acknowledge Jesus Christ have not done so to this day.
HERZL: [It was on the tip of my tongue to remark, “It happens in every family: no one believes in his own relative.” But, instead, I said:] Terror and persecution were not precisely the best means for converting the Jews. [His reply had an element of grandeur in its simplicity:]
POPE: Our Lord came without power. He came in peace. He persecuted no one. He was abandoned even by his apostles. It was only later that he attained stature. It took three centuries for the Church to evolve. The Jews therefore had plenty of time in which to accept his divinity without duress or pressure. But they chose not to do so, and they have not done it yet.
HERZL: But, Holy Father, the Jews are in a terrible plight. I do not know if Your Holiness is aware of the full extent of their tragedy. We need a land for these harried people.
POPE: Must it be Jerusalem?
HERZL: We are not asking for Jerusalem, but for Palestine — for only the secular land.
POPE: We cannot be in favor of it.
HERZL: Does Your Holiness know the situation of the Jews?
POPE: Yes, from my days in Mantua, where there are Jews. I have always been in friendly relations with Jews. Only the other evening two Jews were here to see me. There are other bonds than those of religion: social intercourse, for example, and philanthropy. Such bonds we do not refuse to maintain with the Jews. Indeed we also pray for them, that their spirit see the light. This very day the Church is celebrating the feast of an unbeliever who became converted in a miraculous manner — on the road to Damascus. And so if you come to Palestine and settle your people there, we will be ready with churches and priests to baptize all of you.
HERZL: [At this point Conte Lippay had himself announced. The Pope bade him be admitted. The Conte kneeled, kissed his hand, and joined in the conversation by telling of our “miraculous” meeting in the Bauer beer-hall at Venice. The miracle was that he had originally intended to stay overnight in Padua, and instead, it turned out that he was given to hear me express the wish to kiss the Holy Father’s foot.]
[At this the Pope made no movement, for I hadn’t even kissed his hand. Lippay proceeded to tell how I had expiated on the noble qualities of Jesus Christ. The Pope listened, and now and then took a pinch of snuff and sneezed into a big red cotton handkerchief. It is these peasant touches which I like about him best and which most of all compel my respect.]
[Lippay, it would appear, wanted to account for his introducing me, and perhaps ward off a word of reproach. But the Pope said]:
POPE: On the contrary, I am glad you brought me the Signor Commendatore.
HERZL: [As to the real business, he repeated what he had told me, until he dismissed us:]
POPE: Not possible!
HERZL: [Lippay stayed on his knees for an unconscionable time and never seemed to tire of kissing his hand. It was apparent that this was what the Pope liked. But on taking leave, I contented myself with shaking his hand warmly and bowing deeply. The audience lasted about twenty-five minutes.]
While spending the last hour in the Raphael gallery, I saw a picture of an Emperor kneeling before a seated Pope and receiving the crown from his hands. That’s how Rome wants it.
— From “The Diaries of Theodor Herzl,” edited by Marvin Rosenthal, pp. 4-5.
“Were jews behind the Russian pogroms of the late 19th century and early 20th century to expand the Zionist movement and to get jews to emigrate from Russia to the western part of the White world?”
The anti-Semites will become our most dependable friends, the anti-Semitic countries our allies. We want to emigrate as respected people.“ — Theodor Herzl
We learn that the pogroms against jews in the 1880s began the mass emigration of jews from Russia and other countries. One of the results of this pogrom was the birth of a ”nationalist” and Zionist movement among the jews in Russia while at the same time causing many jews to join already jewish established revolutionary groups.
As we can see, these pogroms favored jewish interests. In fact, jewish supremacists have no issue throwing your average jew under the bus to advance the bigger jewish agenda of world domination.
”But governments did not know how to make proper use of this power, and it fell into our hands. Through the press we achieved influence, although we ourselves kept in the background. Thanks to the press we accumulated gold, though it cost us streams of blood: it cost us the sacrifice of many of our people, but every sacrifice on our side is worth thousands of Gentiles before God.”
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What world-famous men said about the Jews:
I can say I’m related to William Jennings Bryan by marriage.
From the ‘Truth is Beauty’ blog, 2009:
‘…in the post-Vatican II Church, the “Shoah” has replaced the Crucifixion as the central event in history. And do you notice the subtle switcheroo here? Now, instead of the central tenet of the Christian faith pertaining to the murder of the Christ by Jews, the new central tenet refers to the murder of Jews by Christians! This should come as no surprise to those who understand what really lies at the heart of the problem. At its core, this is a spiritual battle that’s being waged above our heads. It’s Christ vs anti-Christ, and each of us must choose a side.’
Joseph Goebbels agrees with you….
It’s amusing to see how the Pope was not persuaded by Herzl’s claims that the treatment of the “harried” Jews in Europe was “tragic”, and therefore they needed their own country to escape “antisemitism”.
From the Pope’s perspective, the Jews brought this persecution upon themselves for denying Christ.
And the Church also was well of how the Jews had a habit of “exaggerating” their persecution:
Like many Jews, Herzl was angered by the Dreyfus Affair, assuming Dreyfus was innocent, seeing this as a crisis for all of Jews in Europe. Dreyfus created the momentum for the Zionist movement.
Jews at that time didn’t have the power to shut down public discussion of the Jewish Question, and Jews like Herzl were convinced the sky was falling. Jews cannot live in a free society where Jews are openly discussed, not matter how civilly.
Unfortunately, all too many Jews like Herzl assume Jews like Dreyfus were completely innocent, which confirms their bias against gentiles, that they all irrationally hate Jews, which isn’t true. Discussing the JQ is not hate. It’s the question of our Age.
If the Catholic Church got rid of all the crypto-Jews, Jesuits, freemasons, and other assorted non-whites, there wouldn’t be much left, but what would be left could be a powerful instrument of good. Sadly, that will never happen unless the hand of God cleans house for them.
Bernard,buy the book,The Plot Again The (Catholic) Church, Maurice Pinay.
It’s a complex but comprehensive look at the problems in the Catholic church caused by the hose noses and their traitorous acolytes.
The Catholic church has got many things wrong over the centuries (who really is Israel, the most important one), but this book rips open the yiddish scab that shows the kike satanic seed in all its horrific ‘glory’.
It sure takes you down the rabbi(t) hole.
The Catholic Church were the first to create ghettos for the Jews, knowing them to be dangerous. Hitler just continued with 1500 years of Church policy. The book Third Reich Return Of The Holy Roman Empire gives specific dates.
Another good book is The Popes Against Modern Errors
I would recommend everyone to watch Dennis Wise’s documentary The Secret Masonic Victory of World War Two
There have been quite a few Anti Popes throughout the history of the Church. The infiltration and destruction of the Church was the enemies top priority.
Pope Pius X in this account seems like what would nowadays be called a “based” fellow, but yet he seems to be sticking to the notion that the Jews could or even should become Christians, and is therefore keen to keep ’em in the lands of Christendom.
If only he had countered the (((demand))) of self-deportation to Palestine with deportation to Madagascar.
Still, it is sad to see that within 120 years we have gone from a Pope who didn’t take guff from the kikes to the (((Jesuit))) (anti)Pope Francis.
I would have a lot fewer problems with the Catholic Church if their Popes were “based” like in the old days, calling out the Jews, public burning of the Talmud, ordering them confined to their own ghettos, wearing yellow stars when they are in gentile society. The good old days….
When the Jews were emancipated in Europe in the mid-19th century, it was bad for everyone, including Jews. Everyone was much happier when everyone was segregated, the way blacks were under Jim Crowe. Blacks did better under Jim Crowe, forced to live in their own communities and make them better. There wasn’t as much antisemitism when Jews were confined to the ghettos where they couldn’t get into so much trouble.
from their own mouths....
Emancipated Jews are dangerous by their own admission. Here’s what Samuel Roth admitted about his fellow Jews in his own book “Jews Must Live”:
“There is not a single instance when the Jews have not fully deserved the bitter fruit of the fury of their persecutors. We come to the nations pretending to escape persecution, we Jews are the most deadly persecutors in all the wretched annals of man…”
When the Rothschilds got control of the Vatican treasury 1823-1824 with the help of the Jesuits it was the beginning of the end. There were several attempts to fight back but none ended up being successful.
Me, oh my, how times change? Now the muppets they got stuck in there trip over one another to kiss the Jews’ paws! And ONLY when they can’t get to kiss their arse.