In this series, we will look at different chapters of Charles A. Weiseman’s book Who Is Esau-Edom? — which posits the idea that today’s Jews fit all the characteristics of Esau-Edom — the eternal antagonists of the true Israelite people in the Bible.
It should be noted that Weiseman does not ascribe to the “two seedline” doctrine — that the Jews and their minions are the literal bloodline descendants of Satan as the result of a sexual union with Eve in the Garden of Eden — and/or from sexual congress between the “sons of God” and the “daughters of Man” in Genesis 6.
You can read Weiseman’s refutation of this theory in his book, What About The Seedline Doctrine: A Biblical Examination and Explanation of the Cain-Satanic Seedline Doctrine.
We also wrote essays questioning this doctrine — Edom In the Old and New Testaments — and Edom In the Prophecy of Malachai — and Was Esau A Fornicator? What we would concede, however, is that within the bloodline of Esau-Edom — though not specified in scripture — there most certainly was some race mixing over time — as was true of all the Genesis 10 nations.
Though Jeremiah 49:10 does prophecy that Edom’s “seed is spoiled” — we don’t know exactly when that happened. Therefore, we can merely speculate, based on extra-biblical evidence, what became of that mixed remnant of Esau — as surely Weiseman does here.
In fact, Weiseman does argue that today’s Jews are the literal descendants of Esau-Edom — as opposed to Judah — through Jacob-Israel — whom they falsely claim as their tribal patriarch.
Whether nor not the Jews are the literal descendants of this Edomite tribe is debatable — however, what is clear, as Weiseman makes the case, is that today’s Jews fit all the spiritual and supernatural characteristics of Esau-Edom — as the eternal antagonists of the Israelite people.
Of course, today’s Jews — especially rabbinical Jews — view the White Christian race as their enemies and often refer to us as “Edom” or “Amalek” — they’ve used these epithets against the Romans and the Germans in World War II — and now against all of White Christendom — pejoratively also referred to as “the goyim” — dumb cattle deserving to be enslaved and slaughtered.
In the Bible, the “goyim” or “nations” — often mistranslated as “gentiles” — has no such negative connotation per se — in fact, there are instances where “the nations” also refer to the Israelite tribes themselves.
However, today’s Jews — by their own admission — are “strictly speaking” not real Hebrews or Israelites — and if they are not Israelites, then Esau-Edom cannot be their sworn enemies.
As we have demonstrated, we can find the true remnant of the Israelite people among Christendom — European White Christians of all western nations — who are descendants of the ten “lost” northern tribes of Israel — the heirs of the promises to Abraham — who migrated up in to Europe after the Assyrian captivity and became known as the Scythians, Celts, Goths, Welsh-Cymry, and kindred peoples.
And it’s not difficult to identify the people who — for the last 2,000 years — have dwelled in Christian Europe and been our constant subverters and destroyers — pricks in our eyes and thorns in our sides — and deniers of our faith and promised Messiah.
As the Jew Bernard Lazare admitted:
“The Jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing — he Judaizes — he destroys the Catholic or Protestant faith — he provokes indifference, but he imposes his idea of the world of morals and of life upon those whose faith he ruins. He works at his age-old task — the annihilation of the religion of Christ.”
—Benard Lazare, L’Antisemitism, p. 350; Rabbi Benamozegh, as quoted in J. Creagh Scott’s Hidden Government, page 58).
We would surely expect that Esau-Edom would deny the promised Messiah of Israel, Jesus Christ — and instead claim that the “real” messiah — or “moshiach” — of the Jewish people will be an earthly rabbi who will rule the world from an ersatz reconstructed “third temple” in Jerusalem — where they can reinstitute their empty rituals and blood sacrifices.
With this context in mind, we will now look at Charles Weiseman’s chapter on the conflict between Talmudic Jews and Biblical Christian-Israel — and how this conflict reflects the prophesied conflict between Esau-Edom and Jacob-Israel.
Weiseman writes,
Jews vs. Christians
God has written a Script for the world which identifies the two main characters who would be involved in an age-long struggle or conflict-that being Esau and Jacob. This is a constant theme throughout the Script — so let’s look at the Script and see what it has to say about them.
Toward the beginning of God’s Script (the Bible), we read of the character Esau making his first appearance on stage, as he is being born to Rebekah and Isaac along with his twin brother Jacob. The scene opens with Isaac’s request to God on behalf of his wife:
21 And Isaac prayed to the LORD for his wife, because she was barren: and the Lord answered him, and Rebekah his wife conceived.
Genesis 25:21-23
22 And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If it be so, why am I thus? And she went to inquire of the LORD.
23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people, and the elder shall serve the younger.
Here we find that this conflicting and antagonistic relationship between these two characters — Jacob and Esau — was ordained by God even before their birth. Rebekah was barren, and it was God who had allowed her to conceive, forming Esau and Jacob in the womb along with their unique and differing characteristics. God purposely made these two characters different and contrary to one another.
The contrasting differences between Esau and Jacob were represented by their struggle or conflict in their mother’s womb. This was to set the stage for generations of conflict and antagonism between Esau and Jacob who were regarded by God as two different nations or racial groups (some translations say, “two rival races”).
They thus were to be separate peoples, each with their own separate character, roles and and destinies — “two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels.“ Their struggle also represents the struggle between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of the world.
Here then we find the primary origin and source of world conflicts, international strife, conspiracies, revolutions, and political upheavals. This conflict and struggle was a characteristic that was to exist between the descendants of Esau and Jacob — that is to say, a permanent and continuing conflict between “two nations” or races of people. This then brings the matter within the scope of International Law — and our conflicts today lie within this international sphere. So strong is this theme that it becomes a principle itself.
Throughout the Bible the nations of Edom and Israel were in conflict with one another. The struggle between Esau and Jacob in the womb was thus a sign of what was to come in the world on an international level. It was to set the stage for a continued conflict between the ideologies, laws, philosophies, governments, religion, and status of the descendants of these two characters.
The evidences of the God-ordained conflict and struggle between Esau and Jacob can be followed down through history to the present times. World conflicts, wars, persecutions, and social struggles are a result of two different systems generated by the two different peoples (nations) descended from Esau and Jacob.
While there are differences among any two races or nations, among no other two has such an antagonistic and conflicting relationship existed as between the Jews and the white Christian people. Throughout history these two peoples have been at odds with one another — their manner of law, government, religion, and ideologies are diametrically opposite to one another. It is an ancient conflict between the ancient adversaries of Esau (Jews) and Jacob (white Christians).
The connection between the white race and Christianity — and the Jews with Judaism — is universally recognized. Judaism — or the religion of the Jews as expressed in their Talmud — is contrary to the precepts of the Christian Bible. What the Bible approves of the Talmud disapproves of — and what the Bible prohibits, the Talmud allows in some form. The following table bears witness to this:
Hundreds of such contrasting illustrations could easily be presented to further prove that Judaism and the Jewish Talmud are opposite and antagonistic to the Bible and Christianity, just as Esau and Jacob were. This exposes the false notion that Christianity was derived from Judaism — and nullifies the term “Judeo-Christian.”
The Talmud teaches the opposite laws and principles from that of the Bible. Even where a sound and well-recognized moral law of God is concerned, the Talmud in every instance tries to find some exception to it. The exception, deviation or modification is then justified by the words and teaching of some ancient rabbi or the “Sages” as they are called in the Talmud. The Talmud is not a book of Godly morals or virtuous ethics — but rather is replete with perversion and teachings of sexual debauchery.
[Note: In1923, Dr. Alfred Luzsenzsky, who had translated the Talmud into Hungarian (in 1910), was charged, by order of the public ministry of Hungary with “pornography” and with “corruption of public morals.” The court found that, “The horrors contained in the translation oI Alfred Luzsenzsky are without exception found in the Talmud. His translation is accurate.”]
Contrary to popular belief, the Jews are not followers of Old Testament law since they are not the people of the Old Testament (the Israelites). In fact, in the book Sanhedrin, section 88b, the Talmud teaches that its precepts and laws are of a “greater stringency” than in respect to those of the Bible. It also says that when a Jew claims there is no breach of Talmudic law, he may act even though “a Biblical law may be transgressed.” It is the Talmud that guides the life and spirit of the Jew:
“The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart’s blood of the Jewish religion. Whatever laws, customs, or ceremonies we [Jews] observe — whether we are Orthodox, Conservative, Reform or merely spasmodic sentimentalists — we follow the Talmud. It is our common law.”
Herman Wouk in New York Herald-Tribune, November 17. 1959. Rabbi Bokser stated, “Judaism is not the religion of the Bible.” Ben Zion Bokser, Judaism and the Christian Predicament, 1966, p. 159.
The nature of the Jew is inclined not toward Biblical precepts but rather toward “Jewish lore and tradition (within the Talmud) which is the mainstay of Jewish existence”’ [see Solomon Grayzel, A History of the Jews, Jewish Publication Society, Philadelphia, 1947, p.362.]
The Bible then is used merely for show so as to give the Jews the appearance of being godly and God’s people, while their true law and religion is derived from the teachings and traditions of the Talmud. The Talmud is the work of “numerous Jewish scholars over a period of some 700 years, roughly speaking, between 200 [BC] and 500 [AD].’” [see Dr. Boaz Cohen, Everyman’s Talmud, E.P. Dutton, N.Y. 1949, p.iii.]
“The Jewish religion as it is today traces its descent, without a break, through all the centuries, from the Pharisees. Their leading ideas and methods found expression in a literature of enormous extent, of which a very great deal is still in existence. The Talmud is the largest and most important single member of that literature.”
The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. VIII, (1942) p. 474
The Talmud is actually “the product of the Palestinian and Babylonian schools” and is generally called “the Babylonian Talmud.” [see The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. XIl (1905) p. 1.]
The Pharisees were adherents of this Babylonian thought — and it was this thought and religion which Christ was always at war against. Christ rebuked them because they “reject the commandments of God, so that you may keep your own [Babylonian] traditions” (Mark 7:9).
Judaism and Christianity are poles apart — and the opposition between these two systems is as radical today as it was in the days of Christ. But Judaism is not only derived from “Babylonian thought,” but also “from Canaanite religious practices.” [see The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. VI, (1942), p. 235]
Esau had married women of the Canaanite race whose religious practices were “abhorred” by God (Lev. 20:23). Jacob, however, “learned the ways of the Lord and His commandments” (Jasher 29:11), whereas Edom rejected God’s ways and worshiped other gods (2 Chron.25:14).
The Jews — like their Edomite, Canaanite, Pharisaical and Babylonian ancestors — also reject the commandments of God. This rejection and defiance of God is what Judaism is based upon. As the Jew Bernard Lazare revealed:
“It is the Jews who originated biblical exegesis Ia critical analysis of the Bible, just as they were the first to criticize the forms and doctrines of Christianity. . . .Truly has Darmesteter written: ‘The Jew was the apostle of unbelief, and every revolt of mind originated with him.’’
Bernard Lazare, Antisemitism: Its History and Causes, London: Britons Publishing Co.,1967, pp. 149-151
Since Jews have an inclination towards this Talmudic religion which defies God, an obvious conflict will exist between them and anyone who adheres to the laws or ways of God. So repugnant was the Talmud to the white Christian people of Europe that on numerous occasions kings and popes issued edicts to have the Talmud burned.
Like Esau and Jacob, the Jews and white Christian people have been struggling and in conflict with each other from their first encounter with one another. A look through history reveals the continual disputes, arguments, and disagreements between the Jews and Christians. “One of the earliest instances is the Dialogue of Justin Martyr (d. 165) with ‘Tryphon the Jew.’ ” [see The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia (1977) 5th Ed., p. 562.]
Such dialogues and disputations between Jews and Christians have generally centered around the same subjects such as the Virgin Birth, the nature of the messianic prophecies and their fulfillment, the divinity of Jesus, and various aspects of the law. Contrasting opinions on such topics have been permanent traits of these two peoples.
[CFT note: the following video shows us, from the Jews’ mouths, that they are indeed spiritual Edom]:
In Jesus Christ Superstar, in the song “This Jesus Must Die”, high priest Caiaphas says no truer words:
“One thing I’ll can say for him — this Jesus is cool.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SvJhOO_EfQ
I find it very odd that in this article:
https://christiansfortruth.com/edom-in-the-old-and-new-testaments/
You guys make your entire argument and include within it several things known to be corruptions or misunderstandings and mistranslations. For authors who seem to be so detail oriented, I find a lot of it to be beneath your usual level of awareness and intelligence.
You cite Gen 4:1 a known corruption. You reference a global flood when almost any serious CI student knows it was local. There are others I don’t have time to list here but these two alone are massive.
I seem to recall you guys posting an article about a local flood??? baffling.
In addition you are locked on to verses of scripture as if corruption doesnt exist in the text when In reality we know a TON of it has been corrupted and obscured. If you take all of the examples of known mistranslation it is pretty safe to assume that the corruption issue is indeed far worse than even we are aware of.
If you look at all of scripture as a whole including apocrypha, and you take out ridiculous ideas like global flood (have you been reading the works of that cryptojew Balachaius??? please tell me you know better) It seems abundantly clear to me that modern day jews, most of them, can be considered Edomite.
The only exception to this is that SINCE the we know the flood was not global, and we also know that 100% of the Caananites were not exterminated, it stands to reason that there are jews alive today, likely the ones higher in power with more pronounced and obvious canine (animal muzzle with sloping head), IE perhaps the Rothschilds themselves and people like Marina Abramovic, may actual be descendants of a more pure line of satanic seed that survived from before the time of Esau. Similar to the pre-exodus flights and how not all white people are actually of Israel but are still Adamic.
This argument architecture you have constructed here reminds me of your article stating that there is no type of hell or actual punishment after death. As if you acknowledge corruption in the text when it suits you, but when it does not, you zoom in microscopically and take each line at face value with dogma.
There are key areas in the bible that have been corrupted. It acts like a kink in the hose causing plausible deniability and confusion that the modern day kikes can point to to stir up doubt amongst us.
The miracle, in my humble opinion, is that you can still stand back, paint the overall picture and see what most likely is meant. Respectfully, I am of the position that you guys are performing mental gymnastics in some of your studies.
I pray that you guys actually mean well. I know scripture can be confusing and debate is inevitable. That being said, I’ve spent aeons crawling forums and places where cryptojews show up and make various arguments to muddy the waters, and many times they employ similar arguments that you guys have in a couple of your articles.
Why on earth (no pun intended) are you even throwing a global flood into the debate? Look forward to your reply.
Lone Star,
You must have missed our comment on the “corruption” of Genesis 4:1. Many presume that because it’s corrupted, that somehow it must mean the opposite of what it says. That is illogical. There is no reason to believe that just because it shows signs of corruption that the original didn’t say or mean exactly what the corruption says. To presume that it means what you want it to, is called “begging the question”, a logical fallacy.
Please read the following essay we wrote on this problem:
https://christiansfortruth.com/begging-the-question-and-distorting-scripture-in-biblical-exegesis/
As far the the local vs. global flood argument, we have intentionally presented both sides of the argument to show that there are problems with each of them. There are no definitive answers. That the majority of CI people think it’s local is irrelevant. They do so because they believe it best suits their “two seedline” doctrine. As we’ve also said, what’s most important about the flood is the meaning behind it, the lessons to be learned from it, not how it literally could have happened. What’s important to take away from it is that God preserved the unadulterated bloodline of Adam through Noah.
Two seedline doctrine is very problematic, and you end up painting yourself into different corners trying to account for it throughout scripture. Often you end up, again, “begging the question” to account for everything that seems to contradict it, such as Genesis 4:1 or Deuteronomy 23:7 which causes two seedliners fits to come up with an alternative explanation.
Ultimately, two seedline isn’t necessary to account for the different “races”. Genesis 5:1 tells us that the Bible is only about the “generations of Adam”. If you’re not Adamic, you’re outside the scope of the main narrative, likely mixed with pre-Adamic ancestry. There’s one true seedline and that’s Adamic. The rest is a hodge podge of different racial groups. “Satanic” means “adversarial”, usually to God, and most likey adversarial to Adamkind. Seeing this way doesn’t force you to come up with wild and improbable explanations to account for inconsistencies, which we won’t enumerate here, as it is a long subject which we’ve covered extensively elsewhere.
Why do you keep capitalizing the words black,asian, jew/jewish and judaism while not capitalizing “White”?
I mean I would get if you didn’t want to capitalize White but capitalizing “black” as if they aren’t the biggest cancer in the world seems like a stretch to make it seems like you’re the bigger person by not saying “negro”, “nigger”, “coon” or other racial slurs.
Zako
We know we are inconsistent about how we capitalize those words. It’s not any secret agenda we have. It’s about proofreading. Some readers say we should only capitalize “Whites”, while others want us to capitalize all of them.
If we were to go by the official “Chicago Manual of Style,” from a purely grammatical point of view, perhaps they all should probably be capitalized:
https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/home.html
In the end, no matter how we do it, someone is going to object to it. Honestly, it doesn’t matter to us one way or the other. There’s no hidden meaning behind any of it.
Listening to various rabbis, it seems that Esau (and/or Amalek) are fungible, wildcard enemies. Anyone can fill in the blank and be considered Esau/Amalek. If not real Edomites, then, uh, Rome can be Esau. If not Rome, then America can be Esau. America is Esau. America is Amalek. Whoever Judea needs to be an enemy (at the time), then Rabbinic sages and erudite Talmudic scholars declare *that* goyim or the other goyim is now Esau. They are now Amalek. Any warm goy body will do, really.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgf7hBGqzJM
Judaism vs. Christianity
Why are you promoting a video of a Jew explaining Christianity? What a waste of time, unless you are trying to subvert the faith, which apparently you are…. Some advice? don’t bother.
An example of Jews viewing white Christians as Edom is a francophone rabbi who was one of the speakers in a Twitter video (along with Rabbi David Bar-Hayim of Machon Shilo, Barbara Lerner Spectre, etc):
“The Messiah will return only once Edom—Europe, Christianity—will be totally destroyed. So I ask you: is it good news that Islam invades Europe? It’s excellent news! It means the coming of the Messiah. Excellent news.”
Islam is invading Europe because Jewry made it happen through taking control of the political process. Jews get stuck in and make things happen to their advantage.
By contrast, most Western Christians simply sit back and watch their religion being strangled, perhaps comforting themselves with the thought that ‘it’s all part of God’s plan.’
Western Christianity is a pathetic sight.
The Talmud is another piece of crap that should be flushed away with that other crap claiming Jews as having a high I.Q. (Which I commented on in a post regarding the alleged intelligence of Jews.)
If you look at Genesis 48 and read about Jacob, also called Israel, bestowing his name Israel on Joseph’s
sons Ephraim and Manasseh it is so clear what the intentions were of Jacob. It says that Ephraim will become great and his descendants a group of nations, and Manasseh a great nation.
This great nation with its group of nations applies to Britain with its Commonwealth of Nations, which of course includes Australia and Canada. The first white settlers.
The British who settled originally in what was to become the USA, were from the tribe of Ephraim’s brother, the tribe of Manessah. Who would fullfil Jacob’s prediction of becoming a great single nation. Both tribes have fulfilled this prediction. Britain with a great Commonwealth of Nations and the USA the greatest single nation on earth. Britain and the USA have been like brothers which no one can deny.
These two sons of Joseph have become what Jacob, also called Israel, said they would.
The Jews cannot understand these facts. They will be for all time on the outside of the white race. An inferior race of devils, jealous of us whites. They can stick their Talmud with its evil teachings where the sun doesn’t shine.
We will stay with the Bible!
To conclude, the word British when divided into two constituents part in Hebrew, Brit and Ish mean covenant man. The covenant God made with Jacob and passed via Jacob to Joseph’s sons Ephraim and Manasseh. As Jacob, also called Israel said: “May they be called by my name and the names of my fathers Abraham and Isaac, and may they increase greatly upon the earth”
As Jacob said God told him. Genesis 48: 3 & 4.
Even the Pilgrims believed that they were Israel, and that America was the “New Jerusalem”.
While some of the early settlers attempted to convert the Indians to Christianity, many others scoffed at the idea, refusing to call these Indian converts “Christians”. Instead they called them “praying Indians”, which shows they did have a sense of humor.
Well said. Not much else to add.
It is horrible to see the state that the new JerUSAlem is in right now but all these things must come to pass.
May Yahweh guide us and protect us through this time of Jacob’s trouble.
Although, 90% of its entire article the Author describes very succinctly the content truth of the Scriptures, Wiseman, theologically speaking, skips on the sideline of predestination, when he writes:
“Here we find that this conflicting and antagonistic relationship between these two characters — Jacob and Esau — was ordained by God even before their birth. Rebekah was barren, and it was God who had allowed her to conceive, forming Esau and Jacob in the womb along with their unique and differing characteristics. God purposely made these two characters different and contrary to one another.”
God does not ordinate characters in humans. God creates humans with their unique genetic DNA. There is no character, as such, in a child, let alone in in unborn child. Characters are formed later, depending on family makeup, ambience, environment, living circumstances, education, choices etc. Again, God “knew,” or better say, knows, because of His foreknowledge that Esau will serve Jakob, and not because He precoordinated so. That is a faulty theology.
Nadir….many studies have shown that a large portion of children’s personalities are genetically determined. You should read up on it. Children are not, as B.F. Skinner tried to claim, born as “blank slates”…..
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7012279/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29152902/
https://nebula.org/blog/is-personality-genetic/
Personalities and characters are two different aspects of human individuality: the former is what you show to society; the latter is developed though formation. Personality is exterior; character is interior.
Nadir
You have it backward. Personality is inherited tendencies, while character is developed through life experience, although character is highly dependent on personality tendencies.
Either way, both personality and character are highly associated and inter-dependent, and separating the two into distinct entities is not really possible.
Both, ultimately, have a basis in inheritable traits.
https://keydifferences.com/difference-between-personality-and-character.html
Collins,
Your link gives me more or less the same definition to what have written previously here:
“Here we find that this conflicting and antagonistic relationship between these two characters — Jacob and Esau — was ordained by God even before their birth. Rebekah was barren, and it was God who had allowed her to conceive, forming Esau and Jacob in the womb along with their unique and differing characteristics. God purposely made these two characters different and contrary to one another.”
God does not ordinate characters in humans. God creates humans with their unique genetic DNA. There is no character, as such, in a child, let alone in in unborn child. Characters are formed later, depending on family makeup, ambience, environment, living circumstances, education, choices etc. Again, God “knew,” or better say, knows, because of His foreknowledge that Esau will serve Jakob, and not because He precoordinated so. That is a faulty theology.
Nadir
Sounds like you’re trying to make a distinction without a difference, like talmudic hairsplitting.
To suggest that DNA has nothing to do with one’s character is absurd, and the only reason you’re trying to make this distinction is to disprove some obscure point you think disproves the Esau-Jacob paradigm.
The words “character” and “personality” do not appear anywhere in the Bible, so to discuss these modern concepts and impose them on the Bible is anachronistic.
Isaiah 34: 4-5
4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
5 For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea (Edom), and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.
It is intersting to find out (Bible) how much the God of the Bible “likes” the Idumeans.
The curses against Edom come entirely from their refusal to help the Israelites in their time of need, wandering for 40 years after the captivity in Egypt. God will not forget who today curses the white Israelite race, His children, and wishes ill upon them.
In part but not necessarily. God hated Esau before he was even born
“And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed”
1Who is this that cometh from (((Edom))), with dyed [blood stained] garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.
“3…for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
4For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
6And I will tread down the (((people))) in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.”
“14And I will lay my vengeance upon Edom by the hand of my people Israel: and they shall do in Edom according to mine anger and according to my fury; and they shall know my vengeance, saith the Lord GOD.”
Ezekiel 25:14
17 But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.
18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the Lord hath spoken it.
Obadiah 1: 17-18
This psalm right here has some real fire on it:
7 Remember, O Lord, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.
8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.
9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy [Edomite aka jewish] little ones against the stones.
psalm 137: 7-9
God knew their hearts from the beginning. From Genesis to Revelation the story unfolds.
“The Jews who killed both the Lord Jesus and their own prophets, and drove us out as well. They are displeasing to God and are enemies of all humanity”
1 Thessalonians 2:15
The only reason you find these discrepancies in names is because of deliberate obscurantism from satans children which has been occurring since the time of Babylon. The names of races as well as individuals has been deliberately marred over time. This is why so many historical and mythological characters have varying names. Take the Epic of Gilgamesh for example…upon closer examination you find it’s just a corrupted retelling of events in scripture. Likewise with the signs of the zodiac and characters from Greek mythology. We became lost sheep and the kikes had a field day with history during that timeframe which makes it all the more difficult for Yahwehs children (who are now starting to come out of their slumber) to look back and piece it all together. Comparet and E Raymond Capt. have material on the subject of the true meaning of the various zodiacal symbols, all of which have been corrupted.
I find a little humor in noticing that the secular, spirit warrior hippies love their astrology and despise Christianity, and yet have no idea they are working with our symbols and our story albeit in corrupted form. What they call mother nature and synchronicity is just the natural symmetry and order built into the “universe” by the almighty hand of Yahweh.
I meant to go back and add this
“This is why so many historical and mythological characters have varying names.”
should be
“This is why so many historical and mythological characters have varying names but when closely examined can be seen to actually be the same person. This is further exploited by the adversary in films like ‘Zeitgeist’ which claim it is our scripture which is copied from other forms of pagan mythology. Cart before the horse.”
Lone Star: “I find a little humor in noticing that the secular, spirit warrior hippies love their astrology and despise Christianity…”
Sure, there was a huge New Age push during the 60s cultural revolution, which created a fuzzy combination of eastern mysticism with a sort of gnostic Christianity, not necessarily overt hatred of Christ.
However, I’m old enough to remember that time and witnessed it firsthand, and I can say with certainty that there were a lot of kids from the “hippie” generation who rediscovered a grassroots type of Christianity, kind of “hippie Jesus”, and it was very popular.
It wasn’t all just sex, drugs, and rock n’ roll combined with New Age navel gazing.
Holden …..
The “Jesus People” movement of the 70’s?
Chuck Smith and the Calvary Chapel Industry had a big part to play. I was maybe 10 at the time. I remember “hippies” wearing their sandals with long hair ….. so many sitting on the floors of the church as the pews were packed full. My older step brother was one of these hippies. Smoking pot and praising jesus.
Do you remember Keith Green the musician? He was half jew, ironically. But I still like his music.
From my perspective/experience, I believe this is when “Universalism” really got it’s foot in the door — i.e. the brotherhood of man. Once Saved Always Saved was the other destructive force.
Anything you could add …..
Holden
And not just few of them had an encounter with Jesus himself in many different ways. Rudof Steiner had forseen this and written down after 1900 this would happen more and more from the midst of the 20th century on. (I am however not Steiners follower = esoteric christendom). Many of them saw JC, heard him, Bob Dylan included).
May be JC especially dealt with those “sitting on the fences” , taking them home.
https://wrathofgnon.tumblr.com/post/136363719973/it-is-time-to-come-home
Another eyeopening article (for me) by Sherry Shriner:
https://brutalproof.net/2019/02/the-bad-seed-khazarians-are-edomites-satans-children/
The judgement of Edom, Isaiah 34:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2034&version=KJV
Benjamin Freedman:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesusjew.htm
John Standring
“By the time of Jesus the word Edom or Edomite had been translated by Greek and Latin into Ioudaios and Iudaeus meaning a Judean or person living in Judea. The original King James version of the Bible, 1611, translated Idumaean-Judean into Iewes. It wasn’t until the revised editions of the King James Bible, that the word Jew appeared. The word Jew does not mean Israel or Israelite! We must conclude therefore that the first “Jews” were Canaanite-Edomite-Hittite. It is certain, according to the Bible, that Jews are not Israel.” jesusjew.htm
Laura
Do you have a link to that quote by John Standring? “jesusjew.htim” doesn’t work. I’d like to know his sources.
I found the J. Standring quote on the biblebelievers link above in the last section at the bottom.
To find the original source we ‘ll have to do some research in the internet, I suppose.
This is the first website, where I read about Esau, Edom the Edomites … searching for information about Esau -and it smashed me.
https://www.thinkoutsidethebeast.com/from-the-jews-own-mouths/
https://www.thinkoutsidethebeast.com/esau-edom/ interesting audio on the startpage!
The book by Eustace Mullins, “The Curse of Canaan”, Chap.1 opened my eyes for a dimension of the Bible I had never seen before:
https://ia802509.us.archive.org/16/items/the-curse-of-canaan-eustace-mullins/The%20Curse%20of%20Canaan%20-%20Eustace%20Mullins.pdf
The great spiritual war (good and evil) goes back to the times of Cain, the Cainanites (banned East of Eden).
It is also a war between different bloodlines from the beginning.
The Jewish Encyclopedia identifies themselves as Edom – from first link
“This is not an uncommon impression and one finds it sometimes among the Jews as well as Christians – that Judaism is the religion of the Hebrew Bible. It is, of course, a fallacious impression…Judaism is not the religion of the Bible.” – Rabbi Ben Zion Bokser,
Judaism and the Christian Predicament. New York, Alfred A. Knopf, 1967, p.59.
“You will notice that a great difference exists between the Jewish and the Christian religions. But these are not all. We Jews consider the two religions so different that one excludes the other…we emphasized that there is no such thing as a Judeo-Christian religion…There is not any similarity between the two concepts.”
– Rabbi Maggal, President, quoted in the National Jewish Information Service, August 21, 1961
“Judaism: The religious system, doctrines, and rites of the Jews. Judaism is, specifically, the religion of a Jewish community living among Gentile peoples and is to be distinguished from the religion of ancient Israel.” – Standard Encyclopedia, Vol. 14, “Judaism.”
Esau/Edom = the soul led by the flesh and all the seed and evil acts that come from ‘self will’.
Jacob/Israel = the soul led by the spirit that has been renewed and transformed by the Holy Spirit and all the seed and ‘acts’ that come from ‘God’s Will’ therein…ie The Seed/Sons of God or true Hebrew (which means to cross over). That’s why the Hebrew (Strong’s #3478, #3479)meaning of Yisrael is defined as ‘God prevails’ with the root of that word ‘yashar’ (Strongs #3477) or Jasher as mentioned in this article meaning ‘upright’, ‘straightforward’…etc. Jacob’s struggle with God is the understanding of this transformation.
We must also keep in mind that the ‘church’/Christians who have not gone through Jacob’s struggles with God (which is the sufferings of Christ) will not enter the Kingdom of God…because God is Spirit and the salvation of our souls through the crucified flesh is by His Word Jesus Christ.
Most Christians don’t believe they have to go through this because of (99%) false teaching in that “Christ did it for us”. He showed us the way…and that way is through Truth (The Word) and (Holy) Spirit. This is why there is no forgiveness of blaspheming The Spirit of Holiness (Ruach HaKodesh) The Teacher that was left for us when Jesus went back to the Father.
We may call ourselves ‘Yisrael’ but also we have a GREAT RESPONSIBILITY TO OUR OATH to fulfill it to become a Hebrew. The Apostle Paul is the one who exemplified this and relayed it for us today. He was changed from being a persecutor to a servant of Christ. Most so-called churches aren’t filled with The Holy Spirit which means no Redemption or Salvation! And many then are stumbling over the Rock of Offense because of it. This is our only hope to be ‘hidden’ in Him as The Father knows who belong to Him.
We are all accountable individually for working out our salvation to become heirs which is the knowing of God through the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Every single book, word and letter of the Law/Bible beholds this understanding so what does it say for those Christians who only look to the New Covenant/Testament for teaching? Can Jesus Christ be split in two? It is all equal to a double edged sword and one Covenant is Witness to the other and vise versa…a continual circle.
So I laugh at those puffed up in being called this or that (ex: Black Hebrews) because at the end of the day our fruits tell on us! Did those black Hebrews or jew Hebrews eat the unleavened bread? Not even close.
I don’t agree with the ‘Jewish Encyclopedia’ that says:
[The Talmud is actually “the product of the Palestinian and Babylonian schools” and is generally called “the Babylonian Talmud.” [see The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. XIl (1905) p. 1.]
…as the Palestinians are also a great part of this persecution as there WAS a large Christian population and even so too the Islamic teachings (which many parallel with the Law) do not do the things that these jews do or they would be happy with one another. They are diametrically opposed to them in every way.
As these jews are accustomed to doing…being the great Liars and the children of their father of Lies (Satan) means every letter of every word they utter is not to be trusted.
Thank you CFT for this article!
Sparrow writes “Most Christians don’t believe they have to go through this because of (99%) false teaching in that “Christ did it for us”
So true. Judeo-Christians are taught that “Grace” is a get-of-jail-free card, and that “once-saved-always-saved” no matter what you do after you’re “saved”, ignoring the plain words of Hebrews.
And the so-called “Rapture” falsely assures Christians that they will be spared the Tribulation, when they are taken up in the clouds as the rest of the non-believers are left on earth to suffer during the End Times.
We don’t become Christians to avoid suffering, but rather we become Christians knowing that we will suffer for our faith. If you do not suffer as a Christian, chances are the “Christianity” you believe in and practice isn’t real Christianity and your beliefs are “of this world” and world-friendly.
Yes. The Jews are Esau because they do the works of Esau. They were born with the birthright, but sold it. And the Christians are Jacob. They were not born with the birthright, but worked to obtain it.
Someone needs to do a study or article on (((satanic))) reversals- the negation, as this is the #1 trick employed by them throughout their history of deliberate obscurantism.
I’d write a wall of text about it but it honestly requires a little more attention as the number of examples both ancient and modern, of them using it are so numerous.
It’s really mathematical in a sense. The jew being the archetypal negating force of all that is good here. A literal walking ‘-‘ sign. Two footed, masquerading devils. It has always struck me as sad that Wiseman rejected the two seedline interpretation. What a mess that leaves the rest of scripture and history.
Fascinating, Lone Star….please give a few examples of this idea of “satanic reversals”. I’ve heard of it, and it seems that it’s part of the Illuminati/Freemasons modus operandi.
One of these massive “satanic reversals” can be found in the tragic history of the German people (when you deep go into it) – all these millions of deaths. It is all reversed upside down, 180 degrees. … “Germany must perish”, Th. Kaufman.
And it did not stop after ww2 (no oblivion as in former times of history). Bletchley Park near London (information given by Prof. William Toel in 2021) was the place, where they planned every single step of the “re-education” by which this people should be whiped out forever.
An instant killing would not have been tolerated by the Christian American people. So it had to be done gradually under cover, G. people pressed down by a never-ending burden of guilt.
I have never seen a killing of a people’s soul like this in history before. The country is run by them since 1945.
My peoples’ fate depends alone on the grace and love of Jesus Christ and Jesus will not let them finish their genocide – all Adamite people included!
Greetings Lone Star …..
2 years ago we had this discussion (Serpent Seed Doctrine). Perhaps you would read the article and the comments and then “weigh-in”.
https://christiansfortruth.com/what-really-happened-between-eve-and-the-serpent-in-the-garden-of-eden/
Peace to you.
hmmmm…..”What about the Gog & Magog {{{PROSELYTES}}} to Talmudic Judaism….?”
and the “Sepharvaim” inhabitants of Samaria…?
and where do “We” read about the Synagogue of Satan …{{{MoneyChangers & Pharisees}}}
in the Old Testament…?
curiously No ONE on Earth HAS to be a so-called {{{JEW}}}….!
…and in Revelation 7……where are the {{{PROSELYTES}}} to Talmudic Judaism…and which TRIBE
is that…?
Thank you CFT. Great timing. Wish we could “Pin” it to the Top.
I really enjoy those who comment here. Even those who disagree. I just wish that everyone who does comment here, has a BASELINE for which to comment.
This article seems to be a perfect “Intro” so to speak to CI. CI 101.
It always cracks me up when we get a new commenter who preaches to us that we (White Peoples) are the Israelites of the Scriptures! 🙂
Duh! The whole Website (CFT) speaks to this reality.
All one would have to do is just spend 5 minutes reading a few archived articles.
It is frustrating to me how our people have become ‘lazy’ and lack the spiritual desire to STUDY. To HEAR. To read something and then actually take in that which you read. I truly believe people “speed read” and never slow down to allow the “meat” to set in.
The Js have accustomed us to this easy lifestyle of “text” and “visual” stimulation. I accidentally broke my smart phone a few weeks ago and for the first few days it was like this huge relief. But then even I found myself longing for that “pacifier” that I used to carry with me everywhere.
Got off track ………………………………
I wish every person who comments here already has some basic facts and then proceeds to make comments.
Recently, this “Piry” character who claims to be White, comes in here trying to “shame” us back into this Universal mindset. But I noticed he seems to have lost the website address as he has not come back to face his challengers. And he hasn’t once challenged our points. Just makes his own. In fact, his original comment never TOUCHED the actual article’s points.
That is my biggest frustration. Nothing you can do about it, CFT. I appreciate that you allow anyone to make reasonable comments here. I just wish they had the courage to continue to come back and face our objections.
But then, I should look upon this as a good sign that “they can’t”. And that is the reason why they don’t.
I mean, it’s a simple question —- “Where do the 4 primary races – White, yellow red, black — come from”? They can’t answer. “…they come from Eve, they say…” Really?! How is that even possible? They can’t say. They have no logical or scientific explanation.
We have the Truth. The Truth needs no guard rails.
Bottom line —– Thank you, CFT.
Without this one website, I’d be lonely. I am “alone” in this world but I have never felt “lonely”. I fear someday we will lose this small insignificant ability to have fellowship as we do here. I pray if that day happens, the END is right behind.
Cheers! God speed.