Here we will continue with the second part of our series looking at Charles A. Weiseman’s book Who Is Esau-Edom?
Recently, a few of our readers brought up the questions, “Who was the first Jew?” and “What is ‘ground zero’ for the Jewish people?” — a subject that Weiseman grapples with in his chapter, “The Origin of the Jews.”
Although Weiseman argues that the first “Jews” — or first ancestors of today’s Jews — arose out of Edom, he also concedes that Edom is just one of many bloodlines that the mongrelized Jews have mixed with throughout the past centuries as they moved from one place to another.
Keep in mind that Esau and Jacob were twins with the same genetic parents — and also keep in mind that none of the wives of Jacob or his 12 sons were Israelites — they all took wives from the Genesis 10 nations, and most likely so did their children and grandchildren.
What determines Israelite identity is the father — not the mother — as long as the mother is a legitimate, unmixed Adamic woman from the Genesis 10 nations — take Ruth, for example.
So we have no way of knowing when the descendants of Esau became mixed — as the early descendants of Canaan — one of Noah’s grandsons — were certainly unmixed, but over time — with practicing paganism no doubt — many of them became mixed without the religious or cultural proscriptions against such mixing.
According to Jewish tradition, Jews had changed from patrilineal to matrilineal identity sometime around 200 AD — probably because by that time most Jews had become race mixed, and the only way to ensure the continuity of “Jewish” identity was through the “Jewish” mother.
[Please read our essay on the subject of Jewish racial admixture — and the switch to matrilineal descent.]
That said, Weiseman certainly makes the case that these “Jews” took on the spiritual ethos of Esau-Edom sometime between the Babylonian captivity and after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD.
By that time, they no longer could claim any legitimate identity as Israelites — as their own books admit — and so they became “Jews” — whose “religion” closely followed the anti-Christ Pharisees who, according to Josephus adhered to many religious tradions not consistent with the writings of Moses:
“…that the Pharisees have delivered to the people a great many observances by succession from their fathers, which are not written in the laws of Moses; and for that reason it is that the Sadducees reject them, and say that we are to esteem those observances to be obligatory which are in the written word, but are not to observe what are derived from the tradition of our forefathers.”
—Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews, Book XIII, 293
Judaism as a “religion” thus began as the “oral traditions” brought back to Judea from Babylon — and then codified by the rabbis sometime around 200 AD — Christianity is not based on talmudic Judaism, which came into being after certain leaders of the Pharisees rejected Christ.
Many speculate that these Pharisees who rejected Christ were necessarily racial Edomites — but if that were the case, none of the disciples accused them of not being real “men of Israel” — nor does Christ.
Yes, many Edomites, after forced conversion, were given citizenship in Judea under John Hyrcanus circa 150 BC and became thereafter known as “Judeans” — but the Edomites did so because they wanted to continue to live “in the land of their forefathers” — according to Josephus — which would be in the southern-most part of Judea.
And it should be noted that, according to Josephus, the Pharisees disagreed with Hyrcanus’ policy of forced conversion of Edomites — and this disagreement contributed to Hyrcanus switching from being a Pharisee to joining the Sadducees.
If true, then we must ask the question — would not the Pharisees then reject any converted Edomites from joining their ranks?
In reality, Edom is mentioned only once in the entire New Testament in Mark 3:8,
“And from Jerusalem, and from Idumaea, and from beyond Jordan; and they about Tyre and Sidon, a great multitude, when they had heard what great things he did, came unto him.”
And this verse — at least in the context of John 10:27 — seems to indicate that those who came to hear and follow Christ included Idumeans or Edomites — which would seem to contradict the idea that all Edomites were non-Adamics — at least at this point in history.
In reality, we just don’t know how much mixing occurred between these southern Edomites and the Israelites in northern Judea around Jerusalem — especially with the Israelites who followed the tenets of their faith which forbade any mixing.
Josephus also acknowledges the historic antagonism between the Israelites in Judea and the Samaritans — despite the fact that there were Israelites still living among the Samaritans — and even Christ advises his apostles to avoid them in the Great Commission — in Matthew 10:5.
If Israelites in Judea avoided the Samaritans, why would we not expect them to treat the Edomite converts the same way?
We do know that the Khazars were a predominantly Turkic-Mongol people — according to Arthur Koestler’s The Thirteenth Tribe — but whatever Edomite admixture they had would have been minor — and only circumstantial given Weiseman’s evidence.
And so the actual historical evidence linking the Edomites to today’s Jews is scant and tenuous, as Weiseman here concedes — but the character and ethos of today’s Jews most certainly coincides with Esau-Edom — the eternal adversaries of Israel.
So let’s proceed here with Weiseman:
The Origins of the Jews
During Titus’ siege of Jerusalem (66-70 A.D.), “20,000 Idumeans [Edomites] appeared before Jerusalem to fight in -behalf of the Zealots who were besieged in the Temple.” [see The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. V, (1904), p.41] About 97,000 inhabitants of Judea were taken captive, and an unknown number had fled either before or during the siege.
This is the last mention of the Edomites as a people in recorded history. Yet Bible prophecy indicates that Edom would be an enemy of Israel in latter times. We find that their only connection to a present day people and religion is with the Jews and Judaism. We thus need to trace back the origin of the Jews to see who they are and how they fit into the nuzzle of who is Esau-Edom.
The Jews of today fall within two main types — the Sephardic Jew and the Ashkenazi Jew. The Sephardim are also know as “Spanish Jews” and constitute about 5% of the Jews in the world. The Ashkenazim are the “East European Jews” which were found in Poland, Russia, Germany, and Western Asia. This group of Jews make up 90% of the so-called “Jews” in the world.
Many reference and historical sources have unequivocally identified that the bulk of the Ashkenazi Jews were derived from a people known as Khazars (or Chazars in some texts). The original Jewish Encyclopedia of 1905 revealed that the main stock of the Jews came from this Asiatic people known as Chazars or Khazars:
CHAZARS: A People of Turkish origin whose life and history are interwoven with the very beginnings of the history of the Jews of Russia. . . .Historical evidence points to the region of the Urals as the home of the Chazars.
—The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. IV, (1905), p. 1.
The Khazars were a nomadic people who had no traces of Hebraic culture. They had been following a pagan and sex-oriented religion until they had officially embraced Judaism in 740 A.D., while rejecting Christianity and Mohammedism. The Jewish author and historian, Arthur Koestler, also concludes that the majority of east European Jews — and hence of world Jewry — is of Khazar and not of Semitic origin. In the beginning of his book Koestler states:
“. . . the large majority of surviving Jews in the world is of Eastern European-and thus perhaps mainly of Khazar—origin. If so, this would mean that their ancestors came not from the Jordan but from the Volga, not from Canaan, but from the Caucasus; . . .and that genetically they are more closely related to the Hun, Uigur and Magyar tribes than to the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.’’
—Arthur Koestler, The Thirteenth Trribe, Random House, 1976, p. 17
Koestler then devotes the remainder of his 255 page book to prove this premise. For instance, a record of a letter by a Khazar King shows that he traced his people to Noah’s son Japheth, not Shem, and to “Japheth’s grandson, Togarma, the ancestor of all Turkish tribes.” [see Koester, op cit., p. 72]
The Khazar government was destroyed by the Slavs of Russia in 1016 A.D. Around 1200 A.D., the land was invaded by the hordes of Genghis Kahn. These two events caused large numbers of Khazars to migrate to Poland and western Russia forming the cradle of Western Jewry.
“There is an abundance of ancient place names in the Ukraine and Poland, which derive from ‘Khazar’ or “Zhid’” (Jew).”
—Koestler, Ibid, p. 145
As the Khazars left their homeland of Khazaria and migrated north and west, they lost their name and became known as Jews. Their Yiddish language and alphabet is not that of the Israelites (Phoenician-Greek style), but an amalgamation of Aramaic, medieval German, Slovak and Russian dialects.
The best historical evidence, therefore, shows that the Jews are not descended directly from the Israelites of the Bible but derive much of their ancestry from the Khazars and other people of Turkish-Asiatic blood. The Khazars are also of Edomite stock and both stocks make up the present day Jews, as the historian H. G. Wells states,
“…The ldumeans (Edomites) were….made Jews….and a Turkish people (Khazars) were mainly Jews in South Russia….The main part of Jewry never was in Judea and had never come out of Judea.”
—H. G. Wells, The Outline of History, 3rd ed., MacMillian, 1921, p. 494
According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, the original stock of the Khazars came from the land of Edom:
Hasdai ibn Shaprut, who was foreign minister to Abd al-Rahman, Sultan of Cordova, in his letter to King Joseph of the Chazars (about 960)….speaks of the tradition according to which the Chazars once dwelt near the Seir Mountains.”
—The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. IV, (1905), p. 3
The “Seir Mountains” are none other than the original land of Esau-Edom:
“Thus dwelt Esau in mount Seir: Esau is Edom.”
–(Genesis 36:8)
Seir was a mountain range south of the Dead Sea and was also known as the “Iand of Edom”
(Genesis 36:21). The Seir mountains were the home of the Edomites for nearly a millennium. “The Edomites arrived in Edom or Seir at the end of the 14th and beginning of the 13th century BC,” according to the Encyclopedia of Judaica [Vol. 6, p 372]. Thus, it should be no surprise that migrants from that land would recall the name of their original homeland.
If the Khazars did originally “dwell near the Seir Mountains,” then the Khazars — and thus world Jewry — are racially of Edomite stock. But how and when did Edomites get to Khazaria? There is evidence that in the 6th century BC some of the Edomites fled their homeland of Seir and migrated north:
“After the fall of Jerusalem, in 586 BC, the Edomites began to press northward (see Ezekiel 36:5).
—The New Westminister Dictionary of the Bible, ed. By Henry S. Gehman, The Westminister Press, Philadelphia, 1970, p. 418.
The extent and ultimate destination of this northward trek is not found in history, but it is possible that it may have brought some Edomites to the region of Khazaria. The Edomites were also cast out of Palestine and dispersed in different directions in 70 A.D. when the Romans sacked Jerusalem. Many thousands of these people are known to have migrated northward to Asia Minor and around the Black Sea region [see Ewald, History of Israel, (J.E. Carpenter, translated 1874), vol. 5, p. 239].
When dealing with a people of a mixed racial heritage, it becomes a real quandary to ascertain their origin. The Jews of today are such a people. In fact the Jews themselves assert they are mongrels because of:
“. . .the original mixed ancestry of the Jews and their subsequent history of inter-mixture with every people among whom they have lived and continue to live. . .”
—Ashley Montagu (born Israel Ehrenberg), Man’s Most Dangerous Myth, 1974, p. 375
The anthropologist, Professor Carleton Coon, has also demonstrated the admixture of the different Jewish types with other races. He explains that while the “Jews” cannot be classed as “race” per se, they are an ethnic group:
“. . .the Jews form an ethnic group; that like all ethnic groups they have their own racial elements distributed in their own proportions; like all or most ethnic groups they have their “look,” a part of their cultural heritage that both preserves and expresses their cultural solidarity. They have developed a special racial sub-type and a special pattern of facial and bodily expression.”
—Carleton S. Coon, The Races of Europe, The MacMillan Co., N.Y.,1939. p.442.
When we talk of the racial mixtures that brought about the Jews of today, we must highlight the events surrounding the Babylonian captivity of Judah. The remainder of the Judah nation — which included some of the tribes of Benjamin, Levi, and Simeon — was taken captive by Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. But at the same time Edom was also put under Babylonian rule causing some of the Edomites to be brought to Babylon (Jeremiah 27:2-7).
When Persia overthrew Babylon, King Cyrus issued a decree (538 BC) allowing the Judahites to return to their land and rebuild the temple (Ezra 1:1-5). However, only about 50,000 returned to Palestine (Ezra 2:64-65). Some of them had apparently departed to their kinsmen in Europe.
However, many of the Judahites and Benjamites preferred to remain in Babylonia becoming a part of the indigenous population. Those remaining had intermarried with the Babylonians and Edomites that were in the land and adopted their religion and law — the Babylonian Talmud — which became the foundation for Judaism. These then became the Babylonian Jews: ”Then many of the people of the land became Jews” (Esther 8:17).
Although they are called “Jews” — a term which is derived from the word “Judah” — these people are not true Judahites but became a mixed or hybridized people, consisting of Edomites, Hittites, Canaanites, Judahites, Babylonians, Ishmaelites, Huns, Khazars, etc.
When they migrated to other lands throughout the centuries, they retained their “Jew” or Judahite identity but brought with them the religion of Babylon.
Because of the Jews’ mixed ancestry, history is sketchy as to their origins from Japheth, Esau, or other people in the Bible. However, identification of these persons or tribes can also be ascertained by the characteristics, prophecies, etc., revealed about them in the Bible. Since Esau-Edom is one of the more predominate figures in the Bible, [in the next chapters] we will endeavor to ascertain his identification and place in historical and current events by these means.
When I was studying the Amalekites, Esau’s descendants, when they attacked Israel unprovoked heading into Canaan, the Amalekites were described as “fair skinned.” If Esau’s first descendants were fair skinned, so was Jacob.
Original jew?
lucifer.
Luke, the only time “Lucifer” is used in the entire Bible is Ezekiel 28:11-19, and it is referring to the King of Tyre, described by Ezekiel as “but a man” whom will be brought down by Nebuchadnezzar.
Why are you claiming that the King of Tyre was a Jew?
CFT, Although I don’t frequent it every month, I enjoy your site and your intentions to identify biblical Israel as in contrast with Jews masquerading as God’s chosen.
I knew Charles Weisman personally, was the only individual to actually attend his funeral in Minnesota from amongst ‘Identity’ and hosted a show called Solutions with him for several years.
I am perplexed as to the spelling of his name throughout this article. I apologize if I had not noticed it before in other articles where you have cited his work. The correct spelling of his name is WEISMAN. The correct spelling should not cause anyone concern. I can assure you and your site visitors, despite the spelling as similar with those of Jewry, he most certainly was not.
It deserves a correction and am confident you will.
Thanks for your continued efforts to educate and inform.
D
Doug, thanks for the correction on the name misspelling. It was a complete oversight, not intentional. In other articles, we have spelled it the correct way.
We are aware that there are a number of circles within CI that slander Weisman as a crypto-Jew because he dared to question their doctrines, especially concerning “two seedline” theology. In no way do we believe that Weisman was either a Jew or a Judaizer. We appreciate his fierce independence and adherence to his principles.
The Bible on race mixing – many text passages all over the Bible
https://www.openbible.info/topics/race_mixing
https://www.openbible.info/topics/race_mixing
Obadiah 1:18 ESV
The house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau stubble; they shall burn them and consume them, and there shall be no survivor for the house of Esau, for the Lord has spoken.
As long as the mother is “Jewish”, the father can be from any race, black, asian, arab, whatever.
This shows that despite their intense in-group preference, Jews are not nearly as “racist” as most white people, who largely frown on any mixing with non-whites, even if they pretend otherwise.
But given that Jews are such a small gene pool to chose from, they have no choice but to accept inter-marriages with any other race. Beggars can’t be choosers.
Jews can’t afford to be “racist” and breed with only other Jews. Like vampires, they need a constant infusion of non-jewish blood to remain viable.
Well over 50% of Jews marry non-Jews. Less than 10% of whites marry non-whites. The numbers are in our favor.
The downside is that with every new generation, Jews are becoming more indistinguishable from whites, their primary choice in marriages.
No wonder they are so confused about whether they are white or not. The temptation to completely assimilate into the white majority must be great for many of them. Which is why we must be vigilant about the ancestry of any of our choices in marriage.
Some people today claim Jews are Edomites while other claim they are Canaanites.
Which one is it?
Today’s Arabs who occupy the Near East most likely have both Edomite and Canaanite DNA, does that make them Edomites? or Canaanites?
What’s the determining factor for Edomite racial identity today?
One drop rule?
If so, Arabs are just as much Edomites as any Jew is, perhaps even more so.
Jews in Israel are closely related to Arabs, and can accept each other’s organs in transplants….
“Many speculate that these Pharisees who rejected Christ were necessarily racial Edomites — but if that were the case, none of the disciples accused them of not being real “men of Israel” — nor does Christ.”
Sure, though as we all recall “absence of evidence so not evidence of absence.” It also sticks out to me that the high priests, elders, and scribes who wished harm to Christ did not identify themselves as Israelites to Christ, instead claiming that they were just descendants of Abraham (John 8:33).
“Men of Israel” in Acts 2 is about the Israelite commoners being told that they were tricked into killing Christ (Matthew 27:20), and given opportunity to repent. It’s not specifically addressed to the Pharisees.
In the controversial article published here about Satan being essentially fictional, the author made a case that Christ would not have revealed knowledge that would have upset society. While I don’t agree with that article, it occurs to me that “outing” the priests as frauds would have upset society.
John 8 is very confusing because the Pharisees are so literal minded that they cannot understand the words of Christ. They claim to be Abraham’s seed, and Christ agrees with them, saying “I know you are (John 8:37)”, so there is no dispute here about whether or not the Pharisees are literally Abraham’s seed.
But Christ says if you were truly Abraham’s children, you would do the work of Abraham, but they don’t, so they lose the right to call themselves his seed. Those who follow Christ do the works of Abraham, fulfill the destiny of Abraham’s seed. It’s figurative language while at the same time acknowledging that there is a bloodline of Abraham that must fulfill those obligations.
Much has been made of the fact that the Pharisees claim that they “were never in bondage to any man”, but they are responding to Christ’s words, “the truth shall set you free”, and they think he’s implying that they are literally in bondage, at this moment, to someone.
Many misinterpret this denial as suggesting they were Edomites because the Israelites had been in bondage, but they ignore the fact that Edomites too by this time had been in bondage to the Israelites under Hyrcanus in the recent past.
Israelites had been guilty of all kinds of venal sins, which is why God put them away into captivity. The idea that they couldn’t kill their own messiah ignores their past transgressions and their potential for gross sin.
Matthew 27:20 does not say that the Pharisees “tricked” the masses into killing Christ. The most correct translation of the Greek word peithó (Strong’s 3982) is “persuaded” or “obey in what is trusted”.
https://biblehub.com/greek/3982.htm
If Matthew wanted to suggest that the Pharisees had “tricked” the people, he would have used the word Greek word exapataó, which means “beguile” or “hood winked” (Strong’s 1818).
https://biblehub.com/greek/1818.htm
The masses trusted the Pharisees who were their spiritual leaders — and why wouldn’t they? Christ contradicted their leaders — no wonder many of them sided with the Pharisees, just like today’s Catholics would side with their priests, cardinals, and Pope.
Remember, Christ foretold His own death, so no matter what the Pharisees did, Christ was going to die anyway. Christ had to die in order to redeem us through His blood. Regardless of the intent of the Pharisee’s Christ’s will superseded their motivations.
Matthew 27:20 tells us that the chief priests and elders used their authority to persuade the multitude into having Christ killed. The word “persuade”, and the existence of the verse itself, tell us that the multitude were led–persuaded–into doing something that they otherwise would not have done. That is, they were tricked.
Matthew 16:21 and 20:18 have Christ tell that the chief priests, elders, and scribes–specifically–would be the ones who would orchestrate His death, which sheds further light on their deception of the multitude in Matthew 27.
I feel like you are over complicating stuff, jews are simply the descendants of the Israelites who rejected Christ and as punishment became mixed and scattered through all the world.
I also think that the khazars were a population similar to modern day tatars (Mostly Whites mixed with a little bit of asians) and black ancestry from the middle east which goes from 5 to 15%.
This would explain why so many ashkenazi jews have those asiatic slit eyes.
One thing that you may not know is that before modern times it was very rare for jews to race-mix even though they had non-jewish sex slaves and prostitutes, so their mixed “hapa” like genetic make-up didn’t change much since the fall of khazaria.
About the middle eastern jews to be honest I never believed the edomite theory and I find it implausible, but still I don’t understand one thing, how could jews become mixed after the year 200 if the arabs invaded the levant and the whole middle east much later in the year 600?
And what’s the point of comparing the nose of an ancient hittite/caananite with a modern jew if the hooked/aquiline nose is found for every 2/10 of all White people today?
Whites can have aquiline noses, but no white has a naturally hooked nose.
By definition, the arabs were never white. So it is interesting that these blacked people were able to amass numbers sufficient to overrun whites in the middle east.
It was not surprising to learn that jews were in bed with the arabs at every turn for well over a millennium now, aiding & abetting them and it finally “clicked” for me when CFT found the jews accidentally bragging that, genetically, they’re the same as the arabs.
Habakkuk 2:4
You claim that “before modern times it was very rare for Jews to race mix”
…..this is contradicted by the Jews’ own writings.
They have mixed with every people they have lived among, including Babylon. Look at this quote from Jewish Dr. Camille Honig about Dr. Raphael Patai’s book “Israel Between East to West”:
“If you studied Jewish types and communities in five continents, as Patai had the opportunity of doing, you would have realized that it is sheer nonsense, and very dangerous nonsense, as well as unscientific to a speak about a Jewish race.”
And Dr. Patei continues: “Oriental Jews have approximated the physical type of their gentile neighbors in a more narrowly locolized sense. Persian Jews look like Persians. Yemenite Jews look like Yemenite Arabs. Bokharan Jews like Bokharan Tajiks and other Turkestan peoples. This means that, whenever in these gentile groups the Alpine and Iranian Plateau elements with their broad-headed and heavier types predominate, the same physical type is found to characterize also the Jews; on the other hand where the Mediteranean type is the more usual one, the same is usual also among the Jews, the Yemenite Jews being the best example of the latter”, and he concludes: “The impression is thus gained that the Jews do not belong to a single homogeneous racial a group”.
http://come-and-hear.com/clips/clp_1.html
I disagree with your theory that modern jews formed already from the days of Babylon or that they were already a separate entity before Jesus came.
I believe that the middle east used to almost completely White before the arab conquest so the Israelites mixing with Persians, Hittites, Caananites doesn’t mean anything, Moses himself married a (White not black) Cushite woman of distant Isrealite descent.
The jews race-mixing with the various arabic and turkic population in the middle east after the various invasions is a complete different thing.
Regarding this “before modern times it was very rare for Jews to race mix” I meant the ashkenazis in eastern Europe like Poland, Ukraine and Russia, here indeed they very rarely race-mixed unlike they did in Germany, Britain, USA, France and Italy.
Then how do you explain why the Jews changed from patrilineal to matrilineal identity in the second century AD? Clearly, they did so because many Israelite men were taking non-Israelite women in marriage, destroying Israelite identity.
After the destruction of the temple in 70AD, the Jews dispersed everywhere, including Babylon, Egypt and Assyria, etc. Yes, these nations were still predominantly white, but they were already becoming multi-racial like many empires. Though not formally conquered yet by Arabs, the Nabataeans, for example, had pushed into many of these areas, and there were plenty of opportunities for mixing.
One study by a Jewish hematologist, A.E. Mourant in his book ‘The Genetics of Jews’ (Clarendon Press, 1978) showed that the average Jew had between 10% to 15% black admixture based on blood profiles. That didn’t happen in Europe, so it must have happened prior to arriving there, which means it must have happened much earlier than you are contending.
Hi Lenny,
Would you mind elaborating on this point you made — “…After the destruction of the temple in 70AD, the Jews dispersed everywhere….”
Who do you mean when you use the word — “jew” in 70 AD?
Men and women from the 12 Tribes of Israel — or do you make a distinction between ‘jew’ and ‘Israelite’, which is the consensus here at CFT?
In other words —
Did you mean to imply that Israelites dispersed and later race-mixed — or are you making a distinction that “jews” were a separate people — or non-Israelites.
I just wanted to make sure we are all using the same terms to describe peoples.
Thanks.
West
By “Jews” I mean the southern tribes of Israel still in Judea at that time, Judah and Benjamin, or whoever happened to be there and who took part in the rebellion against the Romans.
No, I don’t include the 10 northern tribes of Israel outside of Judea, as they were not part of the rebellion, and many of whom didn’t even know they were Israelites.
Lenny…..
Thank you for the clarification.
Maybe it’s just me, but I just hate that word ‘jew’. I rarely use it UNLESS I am specifically talking about Modern Jewry.
I agree with your ‘point’ by the way. I would have worded it thus — “after the destruction of the temple Judahites dispersed everywhere…..”
Or perhaps I might word it thus — “…after the destruction of the temple, the Judeans who survived dispersed everywhere….”
“Judeans” is a more broad word which could designate anyone living in Judea during AD 70.
Anyway ………………….. thanks again.
By chance did you read the comment thread — https://christiansfortruth.com/john-mellencamp-reveals-secret-to-success-defend-powerful-jews-who-enrich-and-enslave-you/#comment-140525
What would be your opinion/understanding as to “Ground Zero” for the first “jew” i.e., related to Modern Jewry. (not jew as in relation to the 12 Tribes)
Some say that Modern Jewry have ZERO biological similarities to the 12 Tribes — others disagree.
Curious what you might have to say about that discussion. I’m always curious the thought process of others and how they arrived to their conclusions/opinions.
Thanks Lenny.
Looking at this article, it depicts Canaanites and Hittites as having very odd physiognomy that resembles the modern Jew.
Why did those people (apparently) look so different than whites?
Well that is a very cherry picked image and I am not sure that different ethnicites would be very faithful about how they actually look like.
There are also thousands of images that you can see simply by searching on google images that shows both Canaanites and Hittites with “Normal” noses:
– https://i.pinimg.com/736x/47/4d/6d/474d6d56611af93686cf93f762152d8a–phoenician-routes.jpg
– https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.a1f6fc30baa3223d947ea172593ce6a8?rik=TXVOXGAdOMdgBQ&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ebruliturizm.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2010%2f08%2fpr_hattusha-exhibition_052.jpg&ehk=g5cacCr1CrcNMW597UHzkMJR9wb1SNsUcwuGxbr9ipw%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0
– https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/ancient-bas-relief-of-hittites-picture-id182494653
– https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/1c/b1/5b1cb1e3e242f58df4e5d3e06e6f266b.jpg
I don’t believe that having a big nose or an aquiline or hooked nose automatically means you’re jewish or non-White, that’s ironically one argument that is made by modern day persian, arabs and kurds to prove that they are the same populations that lived in their countries in ancient times.
Reinhard Heydrich had a big hooked nose and nobody bothered him or claimed he was jewish:
– https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.27a351846b1c458713c05459d67b29d5?rik=5kRrKkIXz2P6gQ&pid=ImgRaw&r=0
Oswald Mosley too:
– https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.3d27cae8329d6840db215a521b3ac47b?rik=OSKcBxtfqQYGtg&pid=ImgRaw&r=0
That type of nose was common in various other ancient populations:
– https://img.haikudeck.com/mi/322F3B3B-CF20-4DCA-ACA3-3C3FBE3CC81E.jpg
– https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.0c39637ae2e3871f2ebf01fb32568eef?rik=Dlum01zo2aoezg&pid=ImgRaw&r=0
Habakkuk 2:4 writes, “…jews are simply the descendants of the Israelites who rejected Christ…”
That’s what today’s churches claim, but the Jews themselves disagree. The Jews admit they are not “strictly speaking” Hebrews or Israelites in the 1980 “Jewish Almanac”:
“Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a Jew or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.”
If the Jews don’t believe they are Israelites, why do you insist that they are? What say you?
modern day so-called Jews are {{{{PROSELYTES}}}} to
{{{{TALMUDIC JUDAISM }}}}… which isn’t “codified” until after 500 AD.
No Dallas Cowboys at the Alamo….
NO {{{{JEWS}}}} in the Old Testament……
it was the Synagogue of Satan {{{{MONEY CHANGERS & PHARISEES} who made
{{{{PROSELYTES}}} the two-fold children of HELL.
Thank Jesus !!! No One on Earth HAS to be a so-called {{{{JEW}}} !!!
A Clifton…
I wish I knew what you are saying.
You say there were no jews in the OT, but then you say the ‘money changers and the Pharisees were the synagogue of satan — which is pretty much the same time as the OT. Who are/is the synagogue of satan if not for jews?
I’m confused.
What do you mean —- “no one on earth HAS to be a so called jews”.
Are you suggesting Jerry Seinfeld doesn’t have to be a jew?
Very confusing.
Neandrathal DNA vs Cro-Magnon DNA. We Israelites being Cro-Magnon.
Are you saying that white Israelites “evolved” from Cro-Magnons?
How did that happen?
Israelites trace their genealogy back to Adam, who was not a Cro-Magnon.
The Cro-Magnons were a pre-Adamic race unrelated to Adamkind.
Or do you not agree with the Bible and instead prefer your anthropology “experts”?
That makes me wonder, does Cro-Magnon man exist as we’ve been told?
Once Cro-Magnon DNA was discovered, generations had it drilled into their skulks that blacks and browns were untainted by C-M DNA, while whites (and some yellows) have been tainted with proto-human blood in their veins.
Is it possible that what we’re told is the DNA of the Cro-Magnon protohuman is instead part of Adamic ancestry?
The way I can identify these mongrels is by the kinship they have with:
The Donmeh who were/are of Turkic origin and also from the ‘jew’ lineage. They were butchers and oppressors (and still are).
The Kurds who still live in Babylon (Iraq), Iran (joining in the same region but separated by boundaries), Syria (northern Syria where they are in cahoots with the ‘jews’ and ‘isis’). They are found in the areas controlling oil reserves and revenue. They do the exact same acts as these mongrel Khazars such as theft, murder, oppression etc. [BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER] Any where and place MONEY and POWER is God.
The khazar/edom mongrels that are occupying Palestine doing the same deeds as of old. They hide cheat steal murder execute oppress…Jesus says that we will know them by their fruits.
They are joining together in a secular SO-CALLED Islamic state called Azerbaijon where the mongrels are joined to cause the fall of lran (Persia). They and the Kurds and their white slaves in the US/UK/EU are trying to control the world…ie AntiChrist. (Just as in the days of Jesus Christ so it is today.)
They have mixed in every country of the planet, usurp/murder/cause a coup/cause civil war…until they are in control of those governments. The absolute worst of them that is documented are the Bolshevics, Donmeh, Kurds, the European mongrels…and even in Japan they were known and documented. They are in Central/South America controlling the masses by subterfuge. They ARE the seed of their father the Devil and thus ‘occupy’ the world. Only Jesus Christ overcame them and His followers were/are constant targets ever since.
The khazar/edom mongrels that are occupying Palestine doing the same deeds as of old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSrhJGGDqx0
The typical vile and filthy whore…
Sarah Silverman says “I would kill Christ again”
…their judgement does not lay idle.
I left out one of the biggest displays of this hideous horde and that is Saudi Arabia where the (isis) head choppers are well aligned with the US/UK/EU etc and are also trying to destroy Iran,Syria,Iraq, Yemen, Lebanon etc.
The US gave immunity/shield to MBS for the execution and dismemberment Khashoggi journalist in Turkey even though they know that he ordered it done. All of these listed and more are FAKES that claim they are children of Abraham.
then prince charles did nothing said nothing when uk contract workers were arrested for terrorism in saudi arabia , they tortured a false confession out of british contract workers if it were not for people protesting they would be left in saudi jails for a crime they did not do , the fraudulent king has interests in saudi companies, it was so long ago but i would have to look it up.
ever heard of bbc tv presenter and politician robert kilroy silk he was anti immigration he got booted out of ukip just when he was taking the party in a new positive direction was he victim of subverters , he got fired from bbc all contracts cancelled he wrote a scathing article in it he had a go at saudi regime called them women oppressors and limb amputators he had no love for saudi regime , it was revealed the saudi regime bribed the bbc to fire robert kilroy silk , he set up his own political party that got nowhere after that i dont know what he is doing now
these tukic jews formed a group called young turks that led the armenian genocide
Yes. The list is long and thank you for adding to it Paul. Their fruit is always the same and doesn’t fall far from the tree. The more I have gleaned since having privy to the internet vexes the soul. Thanks to God who made this information available to all of us in these last days. To this day Turkish President Erdogan has never apologized for that history but makes it clear by arming and aiding Azerbaijan in the latest war with Armenia that history will keep circulating in one form or another. By far my country (US) allied with UK, and with Russia during the Bolshevik rule has murdered hundreds of millions if not more, will reap the whirlwind. Perhaps Putin has asked forgiveness through his church for these abominations…I hope so. As for the US/UK…they have not only left the Christian faith but have doubled down with their wickedness to which judgement is certain. We individually are accountable for what our governments have done (being under that umbrella), so repenting for our atrocities done to others takes us out from under that umbrella and under the safety of the Saviors Wings…lifting us out of the darkness and into the light.
the Japanese as well as the chinese people knew them as Tengu – long nosed demons wearing a small box on the forehead.
https://www.goyimtv.com/v/1126233681/The-Japanese-Find-Out-That-Traditional-Demons-Were-Jews
Great Intro! Perfectly stated and summarized.