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Why Did Justin Trudeau Complain Flat Earthers Create ‘Real Problems’ And Take Society To ‘Very Scary Places’?

February 27, 2025 By CFT Team -- 91 Comments

(Toronto Sun) It would seem that the momentum that Flat Earth advocates are gaining on social media is causing alarm among the world’s leaders — and even Canadian Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, whined that they are “creating real problems” for these elites:

“…Speaking to an audience at the Mississauga Fire Service’s Garry Morden fire training centre last Thursday, Trudeau talked of being “fascinated with the idea of flat Earthers.”

With protesters outside shouting, he explained to what looked like a stunned audience inside how “there wasn’t really any moment back in recorded history — the ancient Greeks, the ancients Babylonians, Inkas or whoever else — who actually wondered whether the world was actually flat or not.”

[Trudeau continued]…”Christopher Columbus knew the Earth was round, there was no danger he was going to fall off the edge of the world. That’s not what people were worried about, as he was setting off to discover the Americas or to discover a shortcut to India.”

Then Trudeau got to what he was really talking about: “Recently, over the past few years, a whole bunch of people have decided the world was flat.”

This may have been a first for a Canadian prime minister. He wasn’t done.

“Everything we know about science, from the people who we have sent to the moon, to the photos we have taken from space, to how we explain day versus night, and seasons, we know the Earth is round. But there are a whole bunch of people out there who have decided the Earth is flat. They hang out with each other and they find different ways of proving to themselves that the Earth is flat.”

He added, “that may not seem like a very serious thing, because someone who believes the Earth is flat is not going to necessarily cause tremendous harm to everyone else, but the ability to start to believe something that simply isn’t true — because enough people are telling you and enforcing that around you — actually starts creating real problems, and can bring us as a society to very scary places.”

He explained Canada needs internet monitoring “to make sure we are protecting people’s freedom of speech, freedom of expression, making sure marginalized communities traditionally oppressed by majorities continue to be protected in all the ways they need to be in societies because there are lots of tools for majorities to oppress minorities everywhere in the world.

Trudeau added that society has to make sure “we are keeping people safe and not actually have people believe vaccines actually include a microchip that is going to track you or poison you, when it’s actually about saving your life…”

As Bart Simpson observed, “What an odd thing to say.”

The purpose of this article is not to prove Flat Earth or disprove the Globe Theory — but rather to draw attention to what is at stake for both sides — and why the so-called “powers that be” don’t want you looking into this controversy and thinking for yourself.

Those who rule over us see Flat Earthers as a threat to their power — because they question so-called “consensus reality” handed down to us by the “experts” — and if they question something as “self-evident” as the Globe Earth model, then chances are they also are likely to question anything these “elites” want us to believe.

Many people — even Christians — will claim that Flat Earth is some sort of government “psy-op,” but if that were the case, then why do so many world leaders, like Trudeau and Barack Obama, feel a need to publicly discredit and mock Flat Earth if it is so ridiculous?

If Flat Earth is a “government psy-op”, then why did a top executive at YouTube have to reassure the U.S. Congress investigating “conspiracy theories” that they were censoring Flat Earth content — by including disclaimer warnings on all search results?

If Flat Earth is a “government psy-op”, then why do the search results on Google include this disclaimer, warning people against looking into it?

“Flat Earth is an archaic and scientifically disproven conception of the Earth’s shape as a plane or disk. Many ancient cultures subscribed to a flat-Earth cosmography, notably including the cosmology in the ancient Near East. The model has undergone a recent resurgence as a conspiracy theory.”

The world governments — and the jewish-dominated media monopoly — have spend untold billions of dollars promoting the Globe Theory — whether through their fake “space programs,” Hollywood sci-fi movies and cartoons — or through university “research” that demands all participants adhere to the Globe Model — and its patron saint, Albert Einstein.

However, virtually everything that Trudeau claims about Flat Earth and the globe is untrue — and the fact that his kosher handlers at the B’nai B’rith and World Economic Forum and felt compelled to warn people about Flat Earth should suggest that everyone should do exactly what they fear — research Flat Earth — at the very least to understand the controversy from both sides.

They are telling you that if you research Flat Earth, chances are you will become “unmanageable” — but if you blindly accept their Globe Model, chances are you have the acceptable personality type that is susceptible to social pressure, conformity, and fear being ostracized for not going along with the official narrative.

We freely admit here that we had never seriously researched both sides of this argument — and what we found was rather astonishing — that most people who believe in the Globe Theory have never seriously questioned its origins or the so-called “science” that supports its validity.

As Christians, we should approach this subject with the apostle Paul’s advice in mind:

“Prove all things; hold fast to that which is good.”

—1 Thessalonians 5:21

Like most people who initially research Flat Earth, we did so with a healthy dose of skepticism — with the intent of easily disproving and dismissing it — but what we found was that what we thought we knew — the Copernican Model — wasn’t nearly as “scientifically proven” as we’d been led to believe.

We certainly don’t expect anyone who has believed in and promoted the Globe Model their entire lives to change their minds easily — and a few quotes attributed to Mark Twain explain why:

“It’s easier to fool a man than convince him he’s been fooled.”

“I was educated once — it took me years to get over it.”

“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”

On this matter, for many Christians their pride will be a stumbling block to arriving at the truth, as it takes a truly humble spirit to admit they’ve been tricked into believing and defending something their entire lives:

“When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. “

—Proverbs 11:2

As Christians, we should understand why our ruling elites have so much invested in the Globe Theory — a philosophical principle that has enabled “Scientism” to gain ascendancy over God’s Word — and has provided the “rationale” upon which most atheists justify their rejection of God.

It would be difficult for any Christian to argue that the Globe Model has not removed the Earth and Man from the center of God’s creation — as described in the cosmology of the Bible — and relegated us to a random position in a far off corner of the infinite “Universe” where our very existence appears to be but a speck of insignificance — a mere afterthought — the result of an improbable series of fortuitous, indifferent, and improbable physical processes — like dice rolling or dominoes falling.

Most everyone who now has come to believe in a Flat or Biblical Earth at one time blindly accepted what their teachers in classrooms and “scientists” on television told them — that the Earth was a random spinning, wobbling oblate globe circling the sun and traveling through the infinite vacuum of space at millions of miles an hour.

And if you research Flat Earth thoroughly enough, you fill find that most of these “heretics” and “lunatics” — many of whom were former atheists — have turned back to God — something the “Global” elites fear more than anything else — for one of the main purposes of the Globe Model has been to sever our connection to our Creator because He is no longer necessary — because it all can be explained by “superior” and objective “science.”

Contrary to what Trudeau claims, very few people believed in the Globe Theory until it was re-proposed during the Renaissance — and then subsequently promoted during the so-called “Age of Enlightenment” — when certain Jesuit-trained and influenced figures — such as Copernicus, Gallileo, Giordano Bruno, and Issac Newton — who had studied the esoteric Hermetic Traditions — began proposing the helio-centric model of the universe.

[CFT Note: Even so, both Flat Earth and the Globe Model were taught in public schools in America well into the 20th century.]

That Copernicus, Gallileo, and Bruno were Jesuit-trained should not be dismissed as coincidental or irrelevant — after all, the Jesuit Order was originally founded by converso and crypto-Jews who were well-versed in the esoteric hermetic and babylonian “traditions of the elders” — the basis of the Kabbalah.

In his own writings Copernicus tells us that the helio-centric model of the cosmos derives from the occult hermetic writings:

“In the middle of all, however, resides the Sun, for in this most beautiful temple who would place this lamp in any other or better place than this from where it can illuminate the whole universe all at once. Not unjustly then, some call the Sun ‘the lamp of the cosmos’, others its mind, and others still its governor. [Hermes] Trismegistus calls it a ‘visible god’.

—Nicolaus Copernicus, On the Revolutions of the Heavenly Spheres, Chapter 10

Some contrarians might bring up the Protestant astronomer Johannes Kepler who wasn’t Jesuit-trained — however, Kepler was tutored by Philip Melanchthon, who received his training from his great-uncle Johann Reuchlin, the Catholic “humanist” who studied esotericism and the Kabbalah.

These Hermetic Traditions — which are named after the pagan Greek god — Hermes — also known as the “Trickster” — were based on occult babylonian teachings that centered around Sun Worship — and therefore insisted on the idea that the Sun — not the Earth — was the center of creation.

And how did these men get access to these occult teachings? They were brought into Christian Europe by the cryto-jewish de’ Medici banking family — with the blessings of the Vatican:

“An enormous trove gnostic learning had been brought from the eastern Mediterranean by agents of Clement VII’s great-grandfather, Cosimo de’ Medici [1389-1454]….these celebrated mystical, scientific and philosophical scrolls and manuscripts flattered humanity. Cosimo had stored huge quantities of this pagan material in his library in Florence. The Medici Library, whose final architect was Michelangelo, welcomed scholars favored by the papacy. These scholars, not surprisingly, soon began emulating the papacy in focusing more upon humanity than upon the Old and New Testaments. So extensive was the Medici Library’s philosophical influence that even scholars today consider it the cradle of Western Civilization.”

—F. Tupper Saussy, “Rulers Of Evil”, 2001, p.23

And so this helio-centric proposition by Copernicus and others was not based on scientific tests — but rather on an occult philosophical choice — an alchemical transformation — to reverse the Earth-centered model proposed by biblical cosmology and the Greek astronomer and geographer, Ptolomy — and replace it with the Sun-centered model which was consistent with babylonian Sun worship.

Babylonian sun worship originated with Nimrod — this satanic inversion or transformation is the basis for all “modern” cosmology — which attempts to replace Son Worship — Christianity — with a mechanical, godless world of Sun Worship — judeo-Freemasonry and alchemy.

Contrary to what many believe, what the likes of Copernicus and Kepler “accomplished” was not science — using the compass and square — the symbolic tools of Freemasonry — they merely used mathematical geometry to show that the movement of the stars and so-called “planets” around the Earth could be alchemically transposed into a Sun-centered model.

As Kepler himself admitted,

“I demonstrate by means of philosophy that the Earth is round, and is inhabited on all sides — that it is insignificantly small, and is borne through the stars.”

And if you think Kepler was motivated purely by science and objectivity, his own words reveal otherwise:

“…[A] very few days after the pure Sun of the most wonderful study began to shine, nothing restrains me, it is my pleasure to yield to the inspired frenzy, it is my pleasure to taunt mortal men with the candid acknowledgment that I am stealing the golden vessels of the Egyptians to built a tabernacle to my god from them, far, far away from the boundaries of Egypt….I cast the die, and I write the book.”

—Johannes Kepler, Book V, Of the Harmony of the World, Translated by E.J. Aiton (1997), p.391

The proof that Kepler’s proposals were merely mathematical models rather than testable science is that one of his tutors — the Dutch astronomer, Tycho Brahe — had worked out an equally viable model with the Earth at the center and the “planets” orbiting the sun — which is why Tycho Brahe is not taught in schools while Kepler is presented as some sort of “genius”.

As one modern physicist has pointed out, these mathematical models are inter-changeable:

“But what is less known is that Tycho Brahe, Kepler’s tutor, developed a geo-static system that was just as accurate and elegant as Kepler’s — the Sun orbits around the Earth, and all the other planets orbit around the Sun. The trajectories are ellipses, and all the Kepler’s Laws are satisfied.”

–—Luka Popov, Croatian physicist, in “Newton-Machian Analysis of Neo-Tychonian Model of Planetary Motions,” 2013, University of Zagreb, Department of Physics

[CFT Note: An article published in 1988 demonstrated how Kepler had fabricated many of this measurements in order to make his equations work.]

Not only are these opposing models mathematically equivalent, many renowned physicists and astronomers have admitted that the geo-centric model of our “Universe” as described in scripture cannot be disproven — and is rejected only on “philosophical grounds”:

“The hypothesis [of a central Earth] cannot be disproved, but it is unwelcome and would only be accepted as a last resort.”

—Edwin Hubble, American astronomist, in his book The Observational Approach To Cosmology, 1937

“You cannot disprove the geocentric model. You can only it exclude it….on philosophical grounds.”

—George F.R. Ellis, noted South African physicist

Many still believe that the British physicist and freemason, Issac Newton, somehow “proved” that the helio-centric model of the solar system was scientifically valid — however, nothing could be further from the truth.

The fact of the matter is that Newton adhered to Tycho Brahe’s — not Kepler’s — model of the Sun orbiting the Earth, as he wrote in a draft of his famed Principa, which was removed prior to its first publication:

“In order for the Earth to be at rest in the center of the system of the sun, planets, and comets, there is required both universal gravity and another force in addition that acts on all bodies equally according to the quantity of matter in each of them and is equal and opposite to the accelerative gravity with which the Earth tends to the sun….and thus celestial bodies can move around the Earth at rest, as in the Tychonic System.”

—Issac Newton, unpublished section of “Principa”, proposition 43, Theorem 22

If anything, Newton’s laws of motion created even more problems for the Sun-centered model — while he proposed the Theory of Gravity to explain the orbits, he had no explanation as to the actual cause of the gravitational effect — or how the “other force” could maintain the “planets” in their angular momentum and acceleration around the Sun.

Not only that, Newton outright dismissed the idea that most physicists believe today — that so-called “gravity” can work at vast distances through any “vacuum” of space:

“Tis unconceivable that inanimate brute matter should (without the mediation of something else which is not material) operate upon & affect other matter without mutual contact; as it must if gravitation in the sense of Epicurus be essential & inherent in it. And this is one reason why I desired you would not ascribe [innate] gravity to me. That gravity should be innate inherent & {essential} to matter so that one body may act upon another at a distance through a vacuum without the mediation of any thing else by & through which their action or force [may] be conveyed from one to another is to me so great an absurdity that I believe no man who has in philosophical matters any competent faculty of thinking can ever fall into it. Gravity must be caused by an agent acting constantly] according to certain laws, but whether this agent be material or immaterial is a question I have left to the consideration of my readers.”

—Issac Newton, in a letter to Richard Bentley

After the publication of his famous Principia in 1687, Newton dedicated the rest of his life to the study of esoterica and alchemy — the same Hermetic Traditions Gallileo and Copernicus indulged in — and the same occult “knowledge” upon which Freemasonry is based.

Modern physicists have acknowledged that hidden within Newton’s model of the solar system is not pure science but rather a philosophical choice:

“Whether the Earth rotates once a day from west to east, as Copernicus taught, or the heavens revolve once a day from east to west, as his predecessors believed, the observable phenomena will be exactly the same. This shows a defect in Newtonian Dynamics, since an empirical science ought not to contain a metaphysical assumption, which can never be proved or disproved by observation.”

—Dennis W. Sciama, British physicist, PhD advisor to Stephen Hawking, in The Unity of the Universe, 1961, p.102-03

The Freemasons venerate the hermeticist Copernicus — so much so that a number of their Lodges are named after him — nor should it come as a surprise that many high-level figures at NASA and many of the so-called “astronauts” have been Freemasons.

And the official Globe Model promoted by NASA and their “scientists” is rife with occult, freemasonic numerology — a fact that should make all Christians raise a collective eyebrow.

Evidence directly from freemasonic sources would suggest that they knowingly promote the Globe Model to the public while they themselves, at the higher levels of Freemasonry, know that the Earth is flat — a notion which comes directly from Grand Master Freemason, Albert Pike, who explains the meaning of their iconic symbol — the compass and square:

“Return now, with us, to the Degrees of the Blue Masonry: and for your last lesson, receive the explanation of one of their Symbols. You see upon the altar of those Degrees the SQUARE and the COMPASS, and you remember how they lay upon the altar in each Degree.

The SQUARE is an instrument adapted for plane surfaces only, and therefore appropriate to Geometry or measurement of the Earth, which appears to be, and was by the Ancients supposed to be a plane.

The COMPASS is an instrument that has relation to spheres and spherical surfaces, and is adapted to spherical trigonometry, or that branch of mathematics which deals with the Heavens and the orbits of the planetary bodies.

The SQUARE, therefore, is a natural and appropriate symbol of the Earth and the things that belong to it, are of it, or concern it. The Compass is an equally natural and appropriate Symbol of the Heavens, and of all celestial things and celestial natures.”

—Albert Pike, 33rd Degree Freemason, in his book Morals and Dogma, 1871

This interpretation of their primary symbols is confirmed in the Masonic Bible’s definition of Earth:

Earth. The earth was regarded as the universe itself, every other body — the heavens, sun, moon, and stars — being subsidiary to it. There seem traces of the idea that the world was a disk (Isaiah 40:22) bordered by the ocean, with Jerusalem at its centre.

–Masonic Bible, 1955 edition

And it should come as no surprise that the 1610 Vatican-sanctioned English translation of the Bible — the Douay-Rheims — was the first to insert “globe” into Isaiah 40:22 instead of “disk”:

“It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in. “

—Isaiah 40:22, from Catholic-authorized Douay-Rheims English translated-Bible, 1610

Likewise, we can see in the standard masonic iconography that came into use in the 19th century that the Freemasons had incorporated the Globe Model and spherical moon onto the top of the hermetic pillars:

However, if you look at earlier masonic iconography, from the 18th century, prior to when the freemasonic British “Royal Society” of scientism started heavily promoting the Globe Model and Evolution, you will see the top of the pillars did not include those iconic “planets” — while the Sun and Moon were embedded in the firmament:

Those pillars of “wisdom” for the Freemasons can, in fact, be traced back to the originator of the Hermetic traditions — Hermes Trismegistus:

“Hermes Trismegistus or the Thrice Great, who was a celebrated Egyptian legislator, priest, and philosopher, who lived in the reign of Ninus….this mythical Egyptian philosopher was in fact considered as the inventor of everything known to the human intellect. It was fabled that Pythagoras and Plato had derived their knowledge from him, and that he had recorded his inventions on pillars.”

—Albert G. Mackey, “Hermes,” in Encylopedia of Freemasonry And Its Kindred Sciences,” Vol.2, p.295

Clearly, the Freemasons believe that the globe Earth and Moon are hermetic “inventions” — hidden in plain sight in their own iconography.

If true, then this satanic “trick” gives an added level of meaning and irony to the words in Revelation:

“And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.”

—Revelation 12:9

We caution anyone who wishes to seriously research Flat Earth and the origins of the Copernican Model to trust no single source — in the same way we would advise any Christian not to trust any single translation of the Bible — or any single Christian pastor.

Both sides of this controversy include all kinds of propagandists, shills, and even well-meaning but misinformed people — it’s your job to sift through the weeds to come to your own independent conclusions.

If you belong to a Christian group or congregation that demonizes or marginalizes those who find the Globe Model problematic or believe in the Biblical Earth model described in scripture — such as Pastor Greg Locke here — you might want to question their true motivations to make your conform.

We cannot serve two masters — real science will never contradict God’s Word, while its step-child, “Scientism,” is philosophically in opposition to it.

An excellent starting place to first understand how the occult practices of Hermeticism were covertly promoted through the Catholic Church and the Jesuits, we would highly recommend the documentary Heliosorcery: Exposing The Occult Origins of Heliocentrism:


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  1. ONLYWHITEPEOPLEAREHUMAN

    June 3, 2025 at 5:51 pm

    The Catholic Church alone defended the Flat Earth Truth, when it condemned copernicus for mocking lactantius’ flat earth teachings. St. Thomas taught that the earth was laid upon the waters and that its centre was its lowest point, impossble on a globe, and in his commentaries he woul call arstotle the philosopher when he agreed and aristotle when he disagreed. When aristotle called the earth a sphere st thomas called him aristotle.

    it was (((luther))) and the protestants who revived the globe, look at (((luthers))) cosmic egg painting.

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  2. JB

    May 17, 2025 at 12:32 pm

    Both this article and https://christiansfortruth.com/november-1-1887-the-day-the-earth-stopped-orbiting-the-sun/ and their comments are linked.

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  3. Kevin

    April 19, 2025 at 2:58 am

    As the article says the whole purpose of the globe model has been to hide God the Creator from us.

    If you believe in the globe, you must believe in countless other lies to support that belief.

    What kind of belief in God can you have if you don’t believe in his very first act of creation?

    Accept the globe and you have put an occult veil between you and your Creator.

    Would the Holy Spirit ever lead you to believe in the globe? Or some other spirit?

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  4. Nord

    April 4, 2025 at 9:54 pm

    I do solely trust the King James Bible 100% as God’s inspired words in English. And I completely distrust all who claim that God somehow revealed to them “mistakes” in it or “better translations” of it. Such a person is, by definition, a deceived self-appointed private interpreter: “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.” 2 Peter 1:20. This is a matter of faith: it is not up for debate.

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    • CFT

      April 5, 2025 at 3:52 am

      Nord:
      We have had many KJV-only people show up here, and like you, none of them can be reasoned with. They put their faith in men — not God, not Jesus Christ, and certainly not in the only truly inspired texts, which are the original Greek manuscripts.

      King James himself was a degenerate homosexual, a pedophile, a freemason, occultist, and a blasphemer of Christ. Many in England at the time referred to him as “Queen James” because of his blatantly effeminate behavior. This is the man whom the translators held up as their paragon of virtue and inspiration for their work.

      Many of his translators themselves were also freemasons, degenerates, drunkards, torturers, ambitious career advancers, and murderers. The original edition of the KJV has freemasonic iconography imprinted on the pages, including those alluding to Sun worship.

      Many of his “esteemed” translators headed an English Inquisition similar to the Spanish Inquisition, jailing, torturing, and murdering many of those Christians who refused to conform to the arbitrary power of the Church of England — including Catholics, Puritans, and other non-conformists.

      It was these brutal inquisitors who drove many of these Puritans out of England, seeking refuge in Holland, and then on to the New World, among the earliest settlers of America where they freed themselves from the yoke of these brutal, intolerant “men of God”. And for this reason, early American Christians did not use the KJV — it was a symbol of their persecution.

      It was these infallible “God-inspired” experts who inserted “unicorns” into the KJV, when it’s obvious that the word is clearly oxen — yet you have “100%” faith in these men:
      https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?hs=1&q=unicorn

      King James and his translators ironically condemn themselves — as 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 makes clear:

      “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

      We would recommend anyone interested in the history behind the KJV to read British historian, Adam Nicholson’s book on the making of the King James Bible:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5UxhDfFtNg

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      • Cyrus

        April 5, 2025 at 12:13 pm

        “King James himself was a degenerate homosexual, a pedophile, a freemason, occultist, and a blasphemer of Christ. Many in England at the time referred to him as “Queen James” because of his blatantly effeminate behavior.”

        What is the evidence that he was a pedophile? or that he had sexual relations with other males?
        Also didn’t Mary had Jesus Christ when she was 12?

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        • CFT

          April 5, 2025 at 4:23 pm

          Cyrus:
          King James liked to have little boys taken off the streets, cleaned up, dressed up in silks and finery, then have them paraded around him. It was so obvious to everyone what it was about that his advisers had to have him stop because of the scandal and rumors…..

          James wasn’t interested in young girls — only boys.

          Read Adam Nicholson’s book, which we cited as a source:
          “Power and Glory: The Making of the King James Bible” (US title: “God’s Secretaries”) 2003

          But there are numerous biographies and diaries from and about the Elizabethan Era that speak unflatteringly about King James — after the death of Elizabeth without an heir, the English had the Scottish James VI foisted upon them — and the English believed they had lost a king in Elizabeth and got a queen in James.

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          • RB

            April 6, 2025 at 4:03 am

            I have to admit that I’m skeptical whenever a historical figure is said to have been a homosexual as leftists have over the last few decades shifted history to suggest that everyone who was anyone was light in the loafers.

            Perhaps King James was a Scottish fairy, but could it be that he was libeled by his detractors and the left had it amplified for their own ends, not the least of which is undermining the Bible?

            As scripture is blatantly against female rule, as I understand it Isaiah 3:12 lists it as a punishment from God for wayward Israelites, I am also skeptical that Elizabeth was a particularly good monarch for the British people.

          • CFT

            April 6, 2025 at 6:09 am

            RB,
            Yes, you are correct — we have to be careful because there is an army of “gay revisionist” historians today who have gone back through history and claimed everyone from Shakespeare to Da Vinci was a homosexual.

            But that isn’t the case with James the First — his contemporaries, his courtesans, observed and chronicled his questionable and often outrageous behavior, which he arrogantly didn’t even bother to hide.

            These “gay revisionist” have tried to claim that Elizabeth was a lesbian simply because she never married, but contemporary accounts of her reign suggest that though she didn’t marry, she was most certainly not a “virgin queen” — she, in fact, had a number of lovers — and some have even suggested that she bore an illegitimate child who was never acknowledged.

            As to whether Elizabeth was a particularly good ruler is still open to debate. She was surrounded by many capable and brilliant advisors, but whether she always took the best advice is questionable.

            That said, British historians generally acknowledge that during the Elizabethan Age, also known as the “English Renaissance”, we saw a flourishing of culture, arts, and sciences — along with some major military victories, including exploration of the New World.

            Elizabeth was only the second queen ever to rule England — after her half-sister, “Bloody Mary” — a disaster of a ruler by many accounts. And the only reason England was put in this position was because their father, Henry VIII famously failed to produce any male heirs.

            And as you pointed out, there were many in England who felt that being fated to the rulership of two queens was indeed a punishment brought upon them from the sins committed by their murderous father, Henry VIII.

            And for this reason, when James took the throne, he was at least initially welcomed by those who believed the throne should be held by a king — but that welcome was only short lived, as they were to soon find out that James was more of a queen than Elizabeth ever was.

    • Max

      April 19, 2025 at 4:41 pm

      When Peter wrote that he wrote it in koine Greek wasn’t talking about today’s mistranslated and editing of Scriptures. Use the King James Version with the Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance for the definition of every word in the KJV

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  5. Shari Berean

    March 23, 2025 at 9:09 am

    I’m glad to see you back, CFT! In this past year, I have discovered the bottom of the “rabbit hole”. Even deeper than Biblical Earth! The Truth at the very core of deception, is that Jesus Christ and His Saints returned in the first century. They destroyed Rome, the Roman Empire and the temple in Jerusalem.

    Satan was chained up while Jesus and His Saints built the beautiful cities all over the earth. Jesus reigned here on earth for 1000 years! His earthly reign was disguised in the history books as the “Byzantine Empire” or the eastern Holy Roman Empire. We are now living in the most deceptive time ever, Revelation 20:7.

    Jason Jack on YouTube explains it very clearly! It is the only thing that makes sense of all this chaos in the world. Take comfort in this Truth! Jesus Christ is much closer than we are led to believe! May God bless us all!

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    • CFT

      March 24, 2025 at 4:06 am

      Shari,
      Sounds like you discovered Preterism, which has been discussed here many times .
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism

      The first preterist treatise was written by Luis del Alcázar, a Jesuit priest who just so happened to be a crypto-Jew, like many Jesuits. His father Melichor predictably was a lawyer.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_del_Alc%C3%A1zar

      Alcázar is listed here as a Sephardic Jewish surname:
      https://findmyheritage.wordpress.com/pop-culture/list-of-sephardic-jewish-surnames/

      Alcázar contrived preterism in response to the eschatology of the new Protestants who interpreted the “great Whore” in Revelation as the Catholic Church. That is, if preterism is true, and all prophecy has been fulfilled, then the Catholic Church cannot be “the great Whore” or so the thinking went.

      So if anything, preterism originally was the brainchild of a Jew, a “Judaizer” in your words. No doubt, though, that modern evangelical Christianity is also the work of a Judaizer, as Cyrus Scofield was hired by Samuel Untermeyer to reinterpret the prophecy concerning the regathering of Israel.

      You’ll find a discussion of Preterism under this article in the comments section:
      https://christiansfortruth.com/jews-blow-gasket-when-fox-news-reporter-claims-rothschilds-hired-charles-darwin-to-invent-theory-of-evolution/

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      • Shari Berean

        March 27, 2025 at 5:34 am

        No, I don’t believe in the concept of preterism. I know about it, but I don’t subscribe to it. I simply believe what Jesus Christ said to the people He was speaking to, that He would return soon. He didn’t say “after a couple thousand years”, he said SOON.

        I am taking Jesus Christ’s words as all the proof I need, but the beautiful cathedrals He and His Saints built are a nice bonus!

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        • CFT

          March 27, 2025 at 3:08 pm

          Shari,
          The only place where Christ says that he is “coming soon” is at the END of Revelations:

          “Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay each one for what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.” (Revelation 22:12-13)

          But Christ says these words only after all the previous Revelations have occurred.

          So context here is important — and it cannot contradict other direct words of Christ, such as in Matthew 24:36 when he is asked about His return:

          “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.”

          So Christ himself does not know when He will return — and we should live our lives as if that return can happen at any time.

          Also, if He doesn’t know when He will return, that gives context to Revelation 22 — when Christ says He will come “soon”, it’s is not with foreknowledge, but rather as a figure of speech in the context of the unfolding of Revelation.

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      • Derek

        May 31, 2025 at 12:48 pm

        Luis del Alcázar was not jewish, he was from a family of Old Christians and he absolutely was not of crypto-jewish ancestry, his father being a lawyer is proof of it since jews could not be lawyers in post-reconquista spain until the 19th century.
        Alcázar is a Spanish surname that was adopted by sephardi jews, it did not originate with them.
        Luis del Alcázar wrote his book about preterism to oppose the milleniarist beliefs that were becoming widespread among Italian catholics not to oppose some protestant ramblings.
        CFT you must have magic powers, the way you beg the question and turn goys into jews at your pleasing is definetely something that will get you Gods’s approval.

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    • Steven

      March 25, 2025 at 4:17 am

      It’s encouraging that CFT is beginning to embrace the biblical Flat-Earth perspective.

      Jason Jack is a false teacher and likely a “shill” who shadow-banned my comment on his YouTube channel for exposing his lies. YouTube does not serve as a platform for truth; those with significant followings only remain because they avoid teaching truthfully.

      Rome and the Roman Empire remain intact today as Papal Rome, which succeeded Pagan Rome; the Papacy is the continuation of the fourth beast described in Daniel 7. Revelation identifies this extension as the great city that “reigneth over the kings of the earth,” referring to the Vatican (Rev 17:18). Their bishops and cardinals wear purple and scarlet, carrying golden chalices (Rev 17:4-5), and they parade in long robes while reciting long prayers.

      Luke 20:46-47 “Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes … and for a shew make long prayers ….”

      Matthew 6:7 “But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.”

      They also refer to their pontiffs as “Holy Father” and their priests as “Father”:

      Matthew 23:9 “And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.”

      Historically, the Roman Catholic Church held immense power and authority for 1,260 years, from 538 to 1798 AD (Dan 7:25; Rev 13:5), using the principle of one prophetic day equaling a year (Num 14:34; Ezekiel 4:4-6). While their influence remains strong today, it is now more covert.

      Although the Church condemns Freemasonry, it shares its goals and controls the Scottish and York Rite appendant bodies through the Jesuits. The true power behind the Catholic Church lies with the Black Nobility of Italy, the foremost rulers of darkness (Eph 6:12). Their members often descend from or intermarry with papal bloodlines and belong to the lineage of Esau-Edom, with eagles commonly featured on their family crests:

      Obadiah 1:4 “Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord.”

      An eagle with a dragon adorns the triangular pediment on the exterior of St. Peter’s Basilica, and the interior also features this decor. In the center of St. Peter’s Square, an obelisk features an eagle at its base; additionally, a large eagle statue rests atop the ramparts of St. Peter’s Basilica.

      The Black Nobility of Italy also secretly controls the Knights of Malta, one of the world’s highest, if not the most powerful, “secret” societies or knighthoods. As a sovereign entity, the Knights hold power equal to or surpassing the Vatican’s, enjoying diplomatic immunity in the United States and beyond.

      Many members of royal families are part of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, an order with influence that exceeds even the Jesuits. One of the most telling signs of the Black Nobility’s control over the Knights of Malta and the Vatican is their long-standing management of these powers while never being knighted by either.

      Research Emperor Leo IV the Khazar (775–780 AD) of the Byzantine Empire. The Khazars are a proven lineage of Esau-Edom, also known as Amalek, meaning the Byzantine sovereignty had Edomic bloodlines at least from that time. The Edomites are the people against whom the Lord has indignation forever (Mal 1:4) and with whom He will wage war from generation to generation (Exo 17:16).

      How could there have been a millennial reign of Jesus Christ when God’s sworn enemies were, and still are, ruling the world as princes, popes, emperors, kings, and more?

      Luke 17:20-21 “And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.”

      Obadiah 1:21 “And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord’s.”

      When did “saviors” judge Esau, and when did a new kingdom — distinct from the fourth beast (Dan 7:19-26) — emerge on earth? Edom was present and in positions of power within the purported timeline of this alleged kingdom of Christ on earth, given as somewhere between 70 to 1700 AD. The Byzantine Empire had been deeply infected by the Khazarian Edomites since the 700s.

      To enlighten the “Little Seasoners,” Edom represents the red dragon in Revelation 12, symbolizing a collective embodiment of “Satan” (a Hebrew term meaning adversary or opposer).

      “Satam” (H7852), with an “M” at the end, is another generic term that does not refer to an individual or a “fallen angel”:

      H7852 satam saw-tam’ a primitive root; properly, to lurk for, i.e. persecute:–hate, oppose self against.

      The Red Dragon of Revelation 12, also referred to as the “Devil” (false accuser/slanderer) and “Satan” (adversary), appears after the mention of a woman bedecked with a crown of twelve stars, symbolizing the tribes of Israel (Rev 12:1).

      Esau-Edom made their nest among “the stars” (Oba 1:14), and this red “dragon” cast a third of the stars to the ground (Rev 12:4); “he” also sought to devour the man-child destined to rule with a rod of iron — Jesus Christ (Rev 12:5).

      Edom, meaning “red,” has a heritage “laid waste for the dragons of the wilderness” (Mal 1:3).

      H123 ‘Edom ed-ome’ or (fully) oEdowm {ed-ome’}; from 122; red (see Gen. 25:25); Edom, the elder twin-brother of Jacob; hence the region (Idumaea) occupied by him:–Edom, Edomites, Idumea.

      The massacre by Herod, the Edomite king, parallels the dragon’s attempt to destroy the “man-child”:

      Matthew 2:16 “Then Herod … was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof.”

      The dragon persecutes the “woman,” representing the seed of Jacob, and is wroth with “her” (Rev 12:13, 17):

      Revelation 12:17 “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”

      Revelation 12:13 “… the dragon … persecuted the woman [seedline of Israel/Judah] which brought forth the man child.”

      Old Testament prophecies condemn Edom for their persecution and violence against the sons of Israel (Ezekiel 35:5, 11-12; Oba 1:10).

      “Satan” is not the name of a specific singular entity; it has a broad range of uses. Jesus even referred to Peter as “Satan” for opposing His will:

      Matthew 16:23 “But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offense unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.”

      One definition of “Satan” is those who “savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men” (Matt 16:23), with Esau-Edom (Amalek) being chief among these adversaries.

      Exodus 17:16 “… the Lord will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.”

      These Amalekites also wage war against the King of kings:

      Revelation 17:14 “These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.”

      They are the primary opposer of God’s will.

      The “Satan” mentioned in the Book of Job is presented in a poetic context rather than as a historical event. Much confusion surrounds the identity of “Satan,” and the “Little Seasoners” (Rev 20:3) appear unaware of “his” true nature.

      Neither the “Satan” (red dragon) in Revelation Chapter 12, referred to with the pronouns “he” and “his,” nor the persecuted “woman,” described as “her” and “she,” should be interpreted as individuals. Lamentations 1 refers to Judah as a “her” and “she,” representing all Judahites, and describes Jerusalem as a “menstruous woman” (Lam 1:17); these terms pertain to collectives. Additionally, the 1,260 days (Rev 12:6) or “time, and times, and half a time” (Rev 12:14) are not literal days but rather years (Eze 4:6).

      Another example of collectivity arises with the “man of sin” and “son of perdition” (2 Thess 2:3).

      The Old Testament refers to the “son of wickedness”:

      Psalm 89:20-22 “… I have found David my servant … The enemy shall not exact upon him; nor the son of wickedness afflict him.”

      This “son” represents Edom as a collective, not a singular entity.

      Malachi 1:4 “… they shall call them [Edom], The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the Lord hath indignation for ever.”

      In the New Testament, this same wicked collective receives mention:

      2 Thessalonians 2:8 “And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume … and shall destroy ….”

      2 Thessalonians 2:3 “… that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition [G684].”

      G684 apoleia ap-o’-li-a from a presumed derivative of 622; ruin or loss (physical, spiritual or eternal):–damnable(-nation), destruction, die, perdition, X perish, pernicious ways, waste.

      A son of perdition is one destined to perish.

      Genesis 36:12 “And Timna was concubine to Eliphaz Esau’s son; and she bare to Eliphaz Amalek: these were the sons of Adah Esau’s wife.”

      This “man of sin” represents Amalek, also known as Esau-Edom.

      1 Samuel 15:18 “… utterly destroy the sinners the Amalekites, and fight against them until they be consumed.”

      Numbers 24:20 “… Amalek was the first of the nations; but his latter end shall be that he perish for ever.”

      One son in particular is condemned in Scripture, and this “son” represents the collective house of Esau:

      Obadiah 1:18 “… there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the Lord hath spoken it.”

      These are assuredly not singular individuals. The “man of sin,” “son of perdition,” and “son of wickedness” does not appear only in the “end times” — “he” has always been present, just as “Satan” has.

      I am working on another reply about the “beautiful cities” these “Millennial Reigners” and “Little Seasoners” erroneously connect to an alleged physical 1000-year reign of Christ on the earth. Much of the architecture is an inheritance built by another civilization, but they lead those seeking the truth of this matter down a path of false knowledge.

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      • CFT

        March 25, 2025 at 4:33 am

        Steven,
        If you are writing an article on this subject of Millennial Reigners, we would be interested in considering it for publication here — if you’re interested. Let us know….

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      • Shari Berean

        March 27, 2025 at 5:41 am

        Much of the architecture is an inheritance built by another civilization? Are you serious! What other civilization? Oh, I guess you mean Jesus Christ and His Saints! And Jason Jack is no shill. I can just imagine the comment you left that was deleted.

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        • Steven

          March 27, 2025 at 7:03 pm

          Concerning the “beautiful cities”:

          Deuteronomy 6:10-12 “And it shall be, when the Lord thy God shall have brought thee into the land which he sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give thee great [H1419] and goodly cities, which thou buildedst not, And houses full of all good things, which thou filledst not, and wells digged, which thou diggedst not, vineyards and olive trees, which thou plantedst not; when thou shalt have eaten and be full; Then beware lest thou forget the Lord, which brought thee forth out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.”

          H1419. gadowl gaw-dole’ or (shortened) gadol {gaw-dole’}; from 1431; great (in any sense); hence, older ….

          “… to give thee great and beautiful cities which thou didst not build ….” – Deuteronomy 6:10, Brenton LXX

          The Raftsman’s Journal, circa 1858, references an ancient and advanced civilization in America that left behind beautiful, majestic architecture predating the Christian era, contradicting the views of the “Millennial Reigners.” The article itself is to be taken with caution, as it could easily be written by a Freemason dropping crumbs, as they typically do to gain credibility. What truly existed on the North American continent were dead cities, which could be labeled as “ruins,” although much of them were refurbishable.

          The article, titled “Antiquities in America,” is available for reading here: https://theunexpectedcosmology.com/raftsmans-journal-antiquities-in-america-january-61858/

          Those seeking a biblical perspective on the origins of such architecture should explore the “seven times” punishment doctrine. The God of Jacob told the Israelites He would punish them seven times for their sins (Lev 26:18), which can be interpreted as beginning with the Assyrian chastisement of Israel in 745 BC. Using the biblical method of one time equaling 360 days and exchanging days for years (Num 14:34; Eze 4:4-6), we arrive at 1776 AD, the year America gained independence. While this may not pinpoint the exact event, it closely aligns with the approximate end of the punishment and the regathering of the twelve tribes of Israel into a new land of milk and honey.

          Deuteronomy 6:10 speaks of great and goodly cities “thou buildedst not,” which would be inherited by Israel. While this applies to the Israelites of ancient times, it also extends to later generations, particularly after the seven times punishment. Was Jesus on earth creating this architecture and establishing a 1,000-year kingdom while this punishment was ongoing? The Raftsman’s Journal claimed it was “at least” from before the emergence of Christianity.

          America once had an abundance of grand masonry buildings spanning from coast to coast. The widely accepted false narrative claims that European settlers erected this architecture. In truth, many of these structures were standing for thousands of years and deliberately destroyed by Edom and their secret societies to conceal the true history and to desolate Israel’s post-punishment inheritance. The remaining buildings were “repurposed” (stolen) with fabricated construction dates to maintain the illusion.

          Ezekiel 35:15 “As thou didst rejoice at the inheritance of the house of Israel, because it was desolate, so will I do unto thee: thou shalt be desolate, O mount Seir, and all Idumea ….”

          America would likely resemble, or even surpass, Europe today if not for Esau’s acts of vandalism. Overseas, Germany suffered heavily during the engineered World Wars, with many of its “Old World” treasures destroyed by bombings and post-war devastation.

          There is nothing new under the sun (Ecc 1:9), largely because a great civilization existed before the flood in Noah’s time. What has been will be again, and Edom’s behavior proves no exception. Israel received a fresh start in America, only for their enemies to desolate or steal inheritances.

          Ezekiel 35:10 “Because thou hast said, These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the Lord was there.”

          One way Edom “possessed” Israel’s inheritance was by stealing grand, pre-existing architecture, and claiming land that was never theirs.

          Ezekiel 36:2,5 “Thus saith the Lord God; Because the enemy hath said against you, Aha, even the ancient high places are ours in possession … Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey.”

          This was not only Edom, but all the heathen (Isa 1:7). The situation in the modern era mirrors that of the past, with the heathen conspiring against Israel (Psa 83:1-8).

          These “ancient” high places — the grand structures of the pre-Flood world — include many iconic palaces, governmental centers, and cathedrals/basilicas. These everlasting edifices were once centers of power and authority in the antediluvian world, making them “high places” of ancient origin, found in the waste places of the post-Flood world.

          “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, and against the worldly governors, the princes of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness, which are in the high places.” – Ephesians 6:12, Geneva Bible (GNV)

          Ezekiel 43:7 “… kings in their high places.”

          Most have heard the term “friends in high places” or the phrase “highest court in the land.”

          Identifying inherited buildings can be confusing and often leads down a rabbit hole. One common pitfall is the speculation that the new civilization could not or did not build anything of beauty or significance. In reality, they constructed plenty, and newer buildings are mistakenly labeled as inherited from the lost civilization — especially steel-framed structures with masonry veneer or cladding that imitate classical architecture. With nothing new under the sun, even true “Old World” structures may incorporate metal framework.

          One style I have confirmed as inherited is the “Richardsonian Romanesque.” H.H. Richardson, an Edomite and member of the Porcellian Club at Harvard (the university’s most exclusive secret society, comparable to Yale’s Skull & Bones), was selected as a figurehead behind these grand stone buildings. One of the most impressive structures attributed to him is the New York State Capitol, an ancient “high place,” which was not built by the new civilization but is one of the refurbished majestic edifices mentioned in Raftsman’s Journal.

          Another notable example is the Minneapolis City Hall, an imposing edifice constructed from 20-40 ton load-bearing granite blocks and a marble interior, allegedly transported over 100 miles by horse-drawn wagons. This building also bears a false construction date, accompanied by an implausible story; it was found in a dead city and repurposed.

          Other grand examples outside the USA, built by the lost civilization and rebranded by the new, are the Winter Palace and St. Isaac’s Cathedral in St. Petersburg. Photographic evidence shows the cathedral buried up to its roof in sand from a “mud flood” sediment deposit, which would require an extraordinary amount of water — comparable to the flood in Noah’s time. See:
          https://i.imgur.com/IrmIn9z.jpeg

          The cathedral features several massive granite columns, each over 80 tons, which were supposedly shipped from Finland to Russia. Given the engineering limitations of the time, moving such colossal stones would have been an insurmountable challenge — one that would still be costly and complex today with modern technology. It is clear they did not “build” the cathedral but rather excavated this “great and goodly” structure, crafting a false narrative around its “construction.”

          Here it stands in the modern day — an unmistakable match to the buried edifice shown in the previous photo: https://i.imgur.com/gcckbPD.jpeg

          Another example is St. Peter’s Basilica, which features a 330-ton obelisk in the center of St. Peter’s Square, along with 50-100 ton granite columns inside. After discussing the logistics with AI regarding the transportation of these massive objects, the conclusion was that the story of their relocation is implausible given the technology of the era. Moving a 330-ton obelisk to this location without damaging it is an extraordinary feat, but raising it vertically into place is another impossibility. The obelisk and columns were always part of this discovered and repurposed basilica. While photography did not exist in the time of the alleged “construction” of this monumental edifice, a 1700s painting depicts a large amount of dirt surrounding St. Peter’s Square: https://i.imgur.com/MJ2I7JG.jpeg

          They are always finding ancient discoveries under the earth in Italy.

          A photograph from the 1800s shows ongoing sediment being removed from the lower sections of the basilica: https://i.imgur.com/WoJ9Jap.jpg

          None of this is the result of a recent “mud flood” as claimed by the “Millennial Reigners” and “Tartarian Theorists,” who suggest that such events occurred in recent centuries after “Satan’s” release — it originates from the world that perished in water (2Pe 3:5-6). Areas prone to “mud flooding” from the deluge experienced burials in sediment during the flood and after the water drained back into the fountains of the deep (Gen 7:11, 8:2; Pro 8:28).

          In America, the Pennsylvania State Capitol stands as another example of a “great and goodly” edifice repurposed as a governmental center, exhibiting similar grandeur and the same distinctive dome style as St. Peter’s Basilica, an edifice that supposedly took 120 years to “construct.” Tour guides and even some government officials assert that it could not be replicated today, even with unlimited funding, despite the building being supposedly completed in just four years (1902-1906) with inferior technology at a cost of $450 million in today’s dollars. Inside, there is rare marble found nowhere else, with the story claiming that monks in the French Alps sourced it before closing their mine shortly afterward. This tale casts an air of mythology around the build dates and materials used — the structure was part of an inheritance granted to Jacob-Israel, not something built from scratch.

          Another “rabbit hole” involves the early World’s Fairs, which “Old World” explorers and “Millennial Reigners” often attribute to architecture developed during a 1,000-year reign of Christ that His enemies destroyed to erase any evidence of this kingdom. While some old and inherited buildings were present at these fairs, the majority were temporary structures made of wood and staff — exhibition houses designed to look deceptively permanent. I, too, thought the buildings at these expositions were relics from the lost world, until further investigation led me to question this understanding. The majority were hollow and built specifically for the fairs. The “shills” continue to perpetuate the myth, claiming these were ancient cities constructed with real masonry. This, however, is a half-truth or outright falsehood.

          St. Louis hosts an abundance of documentary photos showcasing the construction of its fairgrounds, available here: https://cdm17210.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/lpe/search/page/1

          The true deception of the Louisiana Purchase Exposition (1904) seems to lie in the buildings leased to the administrators by Washington University: Brookings Hall, Busch Hall, Cupples Hall I & II. These buildings resemble inherited stone masonry, yet they are said to have been constructed within the 1900-1904 timeline of the World’s Fair, each supposedly built in two years or less. Even more intriguing are a few additional buildings — Ridgley Hall, Umrath Hall, Liggett Hall, and Francis Gymnasium — that were “constructed” during this period without being leased to the exposition.

          When I consulted AI about the logistics of creating such massive load-bearing masonry from granite and stone with 1900s technology without prefabrication techniques, it suggested the process would have taken decades. It seems these buildings may have been passed off as new constructions during the erection of the 1904 World’s Fair, cleverly masking their true origins as part of Washington University’s inherited campus. Many universities across America are located on the “ruins” of the world that perished in water.

          Photographic evidence of Brookings Hall (Administration Building), Busch Hall, and Cupples Hall I (forming a connected complex) can be viewed here: https://cdm17210.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/lpe/search/searchterm/Administration%20Building

          In many images, these buildings appear partially sunken into the earth, suggesting that excavation would reveal hidden sections of this castle-like structure. Upon closer inspection, many areas are far too weathered or worn to be the work of a recent construction. While there are numerous construction photos documenting the 1904 fairgrounds, showcasing their pride in the project, the same is not true for these granite and stone masonry structures. For Brookings Hall, only a few low-quality, easily faked photographs exist, strongly suggesting that these buildings were repurposed from the lost civilization to serve as a foundational piece for the new Danforth campus (formerly Hilltop). Over time, additional structures were added, replicating the “Collegiate Gothic” style.

          Freemasonry, particularly the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, is a fraternity established and controlled by Edom, symbolized by a double-headed eagle with stars on its logo in the 32nd and 33rd degrees (Oba 1:4). While not all members are Edomites, and many in the lower degrees remain unaware of the true nature of the upper echelon, the terms “ancient” and “free masonry” carry deeper, concealed meanings. This group “accepted” (appropriated) vast amounts of ancient (pre-dating Jesus) masonry across America and beyond, repurposing these structures as government buildings, lodges, and more. One of their prominent “rites” is the “laying of the cornerstone.” Masonic cornerstones are present on countless buildings throughout the United States, such as the “high places” they repurposed as courthouses, many of which were ancient “free masonry” — structures that cost nothing to “construct.”

          Washington, DC, was a hub of pre-existing masonry from the world before the Flood. The official narrative claims it was a swamp that needed draining before any development could take place. In reality, little construction occurred; the area was chosen for its abundance of magnificent “free” masonry. Much of America was covered in swampland that had never fully drained, remnants of the floodwaters that never receded. One notable example of discovered monoliths is the Washington Monument, the world’s tallest obelisk at 555 feet, made from costly materials like white marble and granite; the official story claims the color change at around 150 feet occurred due to a “construction delay,” with a different type of marble used to finish it. However, the evidence suggests that the change in color is due to its submersion for 150 days during Noah’s Flood:

          https://i.imgur.com/PTkgcTs.jpeg

          The water caused mineral deposits and staining, resulting in a noticeable color difference. Here is a fabricated construction photo: https://i.imgur.com/N8FZfON.jpeg

          Staging photographs was a common practice in historical documentation, especially when fabricating evidence for major construction projects. In the first photo, we see a completed memorial with a waterlogged area still to be drained. Meanwhile, the so-called “construction” photo shows only the first 150 feet finished, with no water present around the site.

          The entryway visible in the photos measures approximately 30 feet, large enough to accommodate even the greatest giants described in Genesis 6:4, who inhabited the pre-Flood world; massive entrances and corridors can also be found at St. Peter’s Basilica and St. Isaac’s Cathedral. In modern times, however, the Washington Monument’s entrance was redesigned to suit the smaller stature of those who inherited the structure, shifting away from the monumental proportions once needed for the original builders.

          Regarding the flat-Earth, the “ice walls” or barriers surrounding the known realm can peak at 150 feet — or more — in some cases, stretching for miles without end. Where did the water come from to create them? “Science” refuses to acknowledge it, but these formations are remnants of the great deluge that destroyed the Earth. The sun does not circuit beyond the areas where these walls stand, leaving them frozen.

          150+ feet was all the water required to submerge the highest antediluvian hills (Gen 7:19). Mt. Everest’s peak is made of limestone, meaning the top was once under water; it only grew to its present-day height after the great deluge and splitting of the continents (Gen 10:25).

          I could continue discussing inherited architecture and its origins (Gen 6:4, 7:19; Deu 6:10), but these examples should suffice. The enemy has worked tirelessly to suppress this forbidden history; now, they are leading efforts to misdirect truth-seekers regarding a literal millennial reign that took place between 70 AD and 1700 AD, during which Jesus was physically present with His saints, overseeing the construction of the “great and goodly” cities referenced in Deuteronomy 6:10.

          The seven times punishment (Lev 26:18), shifting from days to years (Eze 4:6), undermines the “Millennial Reigners” and their false doctrine. Was there ever a Kingdom of Christ the Lord Jesus on Earth while this punishment remained in effect? Your group makes 1776 AD the date of “Satan’s” release, but you have no ascertainable proof of who “Satan” truly is and fabricate the details.

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          • Marcus

            March 28, 2025 at 7:36 am

            Stephen,

            Fascinating reply. Are we, therefore, to presume that it was pre Israelites – Japhethites, Hamites and/or Shemites who built these civilizations, or as you also implied, giants/nephelim, from Genesis 6:4 (& the Book of Enoch) and possibly fallen angels/watchers?

            I struggle with the concept of pre Adamic peoples (Unlike CFT, I am having problems agreeing with this belief because although we are told that Cain went to the land of Nod and obviously procreated Gen 2:5-7 contradicts Gen 1:26-28, or else, Gen 2:5-7 is a recap of Gen 1:26-28) as the non European races haven’t really shown us much when it comes to Empire & Civilization building.

          • CFT

            March 28, 2025 at 4:11 pm

            Marcus,
            We are not wed to the idea of pre-Adamic humans, but without that idea, we have to account for the non-Adamic peoples in Genesis, correct?

            Surely, you’re not suggesting that all races of people descend from Adam? If so, how do you squeeze them into the Genesis 10 nations?

            Cain’s descendants are not included in the general narrative of the Bible, mentioned only briefly. This is significant, we believe.

            As far as Genesis 2:5-7 is concerned, it says, “there was no man to till the ground”; however, if you look at the Hebrew, “man” is translated from “Adam”, not a generic term for all humans:
            https://biblehub.com/text/genesis/2-5.htm

            So there was no “Adam” to till the ground”, which has a different meaning than there was no generic man to till the ground.

            You have the same issue in Genesis 1:26, with the phrase “make man in our image”, as “man” here is translated from “Adam” — so it means “let us make Adam in our image”.
            https://biblehub.com/text/genesis/1-26.htm

            Given this, you have painted yourself into a corner, forcing yourself to account for all humans coming from Adam, like all universalists must. We not suggesting you’re a universalist, but we’d like to know your theory, backed up by scripture, where the other races are accounted for.

            And recall Genesis 5:1, “This [book of Genesis] is an account of the generations [genealogy] of Adam. In the day of God’s creating man, in the likeness of God He has made him”
            https://biblehub.com/text/genesis/5-1.htm

            This verse would seem to imply that there are others who are not found in the genealogy of Adam, nor who were made in the likeness of God Yahweh, no?

          • Marcus

            March 28, 2025 at 7:54 pm

            Hello CFT,

            I am certainly not suggesting, in the least, that the other races are from Adam. It’s not logically possible from the clear conclusions, to be drawn from the real meaning of Adam (not the Jewish meaning that they use universally, again to deceive as they do). White people cannot create the other races, through continued in race procreation. It’s an impossibility.

            I am logical and I therefore have to try to understand, because although we not told where the other peoples came from, there are implications.

            So let’s look at this logically?

            We are told in Genesis of God creating the earth, the heavens, the sun, moon and stars. We are told of the creation of the seas, all sea life, all plant and land and air life. And we are told of the creation of Adam. Therefore Genesis 1:26-28 is being repeated again in Genesis 2:5-7 in more detail. Man is Adam and we know Adam means ‘ruddy’ showing blood in the face. Now we know the other races do not blush and are therefore NOT Adam so where did they come from? Well there’s only some possible conclusions as to where and CFT, I don’t know, I really do not know at all. I’m just stating I do not believe in pre Adamites. What are those conclusions?

            The Beasts you speak of in your article: ‘Man And Beast In The Bible — Who They Are And Who They Are Not’, where did they come from? They are not Adam and were either created before Adam (Genesis 1:24-25) or after. But they can’t have been created before for the obvious reason that God created Adam in his image and other than key facial and physiological differences, they are very similar to Adam. Therefore they must have come after but when? We clearly see they weren’t created in Genesis and therefore not of God’s creations. So the only logical explanation as to their appearance on this earth was as a result of The Watchers’ offspring, the Nephilim, sinning with the beasts, as noted in The Book of Enoch and Giants:

            -1 Enoch 7:5-6

            “And they [the Watchers] became pregnant, and they bore great giants, whose height was three hundred cubits. These devoured all the toil of men until men could no longer sustain them. Then the giants turned against them in order to devour them. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another’s flesh, and drink the blood.”

            -1 Enoch 9:9

            “And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins.”

            -The Book of Giants Manuscript Fragment (4Q531, 4Q532 – Dead Sea Scrolls)

            “They defiled themselves and revealed all kinds of sins to mankind, and beasts and reptiles and birds were corrupted by their teachings.”

            -The Book of Giants Manuscript Fragment (4Q531)

            “They sinned against them all and devoured flesh.”

            While I know you do not accept these books, the parts that speak about the sinning with the beasts were found in the Dead Sea Scrolls (Enoch 1-36 & Book of Giants fragments – 4Q203, 4Q530–533, 6Q8) and not added later (between 1BC-1AD). There is absolutely nothing else, whatsoever, to go on as to where they came from, nowhere at all.

            Did the Nephilim create them out of thin air, or did they mate with them/possess an Adamite to mate with them? We are told that the angels were not capable of marriage, so that puts the former theory out the window, meaning they either created them out of thin air or forced Adamites to copulate with them.

            Again, I am only following logical conclusion.

            We see that Roman and Greek mythology is littered with chimeras. The minotaur, centaurs, sirens, harpies, gorgons etc. We also have the Gods coming down and taking the identity of men to seduce women. We also have Irish mythology and the Fomorians (also known as Fomóire or Fomhóraigh), a race of chimeras and beasts associated with the sea and the underworld, embodying chaos and destruction. In some myths, the Fomorians are described as having offspring with members of the Tuatha Dé Danann (Tribe of Dan). And we have the mythology of Egypt and their Gods, who all had animal heads. In all world mythologies we have giants and chimeras.

            To put this into perspective, you either believe in Creation or Evolution so as one believing in Creation, following logical conclusion (and the ‘missing link’ in Darwin Evolution), what if all of the skulls they’ve found, that depict the ‘evolution of man’ from primate to various stages of human evolution may very well be the stages of cranial change between the first generations of Adamite & Primate offspring to the most remote African tribe alive today? It may be yet another colossal cover up, on par with heliocentrism and the holocaust, to keep us from knowing who the other races really are and where they came from, confusing our understanding of history in order to fit into their theory of evolution and deny us as Adamites and God’s creation? The answer is in the skull and there is vast disparity between the Caucasian and the African black. While there are many black peoples who have far softer features (Somalians and Ethiopians for example), many Sub Saharan blacks are almost cranially identical to monkeys.

            This is an exceptionally controversial topic, but again, I am simply following logical progression, from a biblical standpoint. Therefore the conclusion is:

            1. The other peoples are not Adamites.

            2. God did not create them in Genesis. They therefore came after creation (Genesis 1) and before the flood (Genesis 6-9) and very likely continued afterwards.

            3. They must therefore have been the creation of the Nephilim (as spoken of in Enoch & Giants) and clearly were not wiped out, obviously, because of the existence of the giants of the Rephaim, Anakim, Zuzim, Emim and Philistines (Goliath and his brothers).

            They could not have come from outside of the Ice Wall and not from underneath the ground either, as that would mean they were created in Genesis and that part was deliberately left out.

            I do not have an answer. I have simply put forward a train of thought, that is if we accept that the other races were not created in Genesis and that the Old Testament, the Book of Enoch and Book of Giants put forward the watchers and Nephilim theory. They had to have come from somewhere did they not? They didn’t just ‘appear’ out of nowhere, unless there’s also the possibility of ‘other’ Gods, creating them, who must have existed, or there would be no commandment telling us not to worship other Gods (and the 10 plagues that God cast on Egypt were attacking their gods also)?

            It is also worth noting that Hybrid animals are often larger than their parent species such as the:

            Liger: The offspring of a male lion and a female tiger, ligers are the largest of all known extant felines. They typically grow larger than either parent, with males sometimes developing a mane.

            Dzo: A hybrid between domestic cattle (Bos taurus) and the yak (Bos grunniens), the dzo is larger and stronger than both of its parent species, showcasing the phenomenon of hybrid vigor.

            Beefalo: Created by crossing a domesticated bull with a female American bison, beefalo are larger and more robust than their parent species. They are typically 37.5% bison and mostly resemble cattle, but some breeds are 50% or more bison.

            Hybrid Pheasant: Hybrids between the common pheasant (Phasianus colchicus) and domestic fowl (Gallus gallus), or between the common pheasant and hen golden pheasant (Chrysolophus pictus), are larger than either of their parents.

            On a final note one thing that has concerned me is Leviticus 18:23.

            “Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
            Is this a reference to pre flood, the Nephilim and their sinning with the animals? Is the ‘confusion’ most likely the offspring of such a union and why both should be put to death? It would not be a mamzer but a chimera would it not, no different to a minotaur, a centaur, or a satyr?
            We know that ‘scientists’ have been tampering with cross species procreation. They have created many chimeras. They tell us that interspecies procreation is not possible, yet there are many photos, that have surfaced in the internet, proving them as lies.

            As Sherlock Holmes stated in ‘The Sign of the Four’

            “Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth” appears in multiple Sherlock Holmes stories.

            All of what I have mentioned is not impossible and therefore although improbable, much closer to the truth than what we have been told.

          • CFT

            March 29, 2025 at 4:35 am

            Marcus,
            Thank you for laying out your working theory — it is a theory that we are very familiar with and it’s worth re-examining, perhaps in another article. We explained the problems we have with the Nephilim theory in our article:

            Genesis 6: What Really Happened Between The ‘Sons Of God’ And The ‘Daughters Of Man’?
            https://christiansfortruth.com/genesis-6-what-really-happened-between-the-sons-of-god-and-the-daughters-of-man/

            And in reality, as you say, we just don’t know with any certainty the true origins of the non-Adamic people. And attempting to do so, we can often find ourselves committing the logical fallacy of “begging the question”. We assume they must be accounted for in the Bible, then we find “evidence” that they are or might be accounted for.

            And, yes, we believe that the Book of Enoch is problematic — while it may contain some inspired truths, there are certainly many things in it that are dubious and contradict other books included in the canon. Thus, we are hesitant to quote certain verses in it, as many Identity Christians do, simply because they help support a theory on the origins of the non-Adamic races.

            When people have asked us where non-Adamics come from, we usually say that we don’t know — the Bible isn’t about them, so it shouldn’t surprise us that that the Israelites who wrote it didn’t feel it necessary to clearly give an account of them.

          • Marcus

            March 29, 2025 at 11:47 am

            Thank you CFT.

            I’ve also read ‘What Really Happened Between The ‘Sons Of God’ And The ‘Daughters Of Man’?’ and it was a very good read, thank you.

            “When people have asked us where non-Adamics come from, we usually say that we don’t know — the Bible isn’t about them, so it shouldn’t surprise us that that the Israelites who wrote it didn’t feel it necessary to clearly give an account of them.”

            Forgive me, but much of my life has been an itch that won’t go away and I’m constantly scratching. God punishes his creation for not abiding in his commandments and he uses aliens to do this. This is clearly apparent today throughout the west. They’re piling them in to the UK now, as you know.

            On my theory (above), I decided to have a dialogue with an AI and asked the question: “if the offspring of an ape and a man continued to mate only with man, from thence onwards, how many generations, would it take, before the distinguishing ape features had almost all but disappeared?”

            AI’s reply:

            “To estimate how many generations it would take for the distinguishing ape features to almost completely disappear in the offspring of a human-ape hybrid that continues to mate only with humans, we need to consider the principles of genetic dilution and the nature of hybrid traits.

            Key Points:
            Genetic Dilution: Each generation of backcrossing (mating the hybrid offspring with humans) reduces the genetic contribution from the ape by approximately half.
            Traits Controlled by Multiple Genes: Many physical traits are controlled by multiple genes, and their expression can be influenced by both genetic and environmental factors.
            Selective Pressure: Traits that are not advantageous or are neutral in the human environment may be less likely to be passed on.
            Estimation:
            First Generation (F1): The hybrid offspring would have approximately 50% human and 50% ape genetic material.
            Second Generation (F2): If the F1 hybrid mates with a human, the offspring (F2) would have approximately 25% ape genetic material.
            Third Generation (F3): If the F2 offspring mates with a human, the offspring (F3) would have approximately 12.5% ape genetic material.
            Fourth Generation (F4): If the F3 offspring mates with a human, the offspring (F4) would have approximately 6.25% ape genetic material.
            Fifth Generation (F5): If the F4 offspring mates with a human, the offspring (F5) would have approximately 3.125% ape genetic material.
            Sixth Generation (F6): If the F5 offspring mates with a human, the offspring (F6) would have approximately 1.5625% ape genetic material.
            Seventh Generation (F7): If the F6 offspring mates with a human, the offspring (F7) would have approximately 0.78125% ape genetic material.
            Conclusion:
            By the seventh generation, the genetic contribution from the ape would be less than 1%, and most distinguishing ape features would be significantly diluted. Some traits, especially those controlled by multiple genes, might take a bit longer to disappear completely, but for practical purposes, the offspring would look almost entirely human.

            Summary:
            Generations: Approximately 7 generations of continued backcrossing with humans would be sufficient for most distinguishing ape features to almost completely disappear, leaving the offspring looking almost entirely human.”

            I then asked it the following question:

            “And what if two offspring of human and ape mated and continued to mate with the same group, how many generations would it take before the ape genes were almost extinguished?”

            AI’s reply:

            “If two offspring of a human-ape hybrid mate and continue to mate within their own group, the process of genetic dilution is slightly different compared to backcrossing with humans. In this scenario, the hybrid population is isolated, and the genetic contribution from the ape will be maintained to a greater extent in each generation. However, over time, the ape traits will still be diluted, but the process will be slower.

            Key Points:
            Initial Genetic Contribution: Each first-generation (F1) hybrid has approximately 50% human and 50% ape genetic material.
            Mating Within the Group: If two F1 hybrids mate, their offspring (F2) will have a combination of human and ape genes, but the proportion of ape genes will not be reduced as sharply as in backcrossing with humans.
            Genetic Drift and Inbreeding: Over generations, genetic drift and inbreeding can lead to the fixation of certain traits, which might slow down the dilution of ape genes.
            Selective Pressure: Traits that are not advantageous in the human environment will still be less likely to be passed on, but this process is less pronounced in an isolated population.
            Estimation:
            First Generation (F1): Each F1 hybrid has 50% human and 50% ape genetic material.
            Second Generation (F2): If two F1 hybrids mate, their offspring will have a mix of human and ape genes, but the proportion will still be around 50% human and 50% ape.
            Third Generation (F3): If F2 hybrids mate, the offspring will still have a significant proportion of ape genes, but some dilution will occur due to the random assortment of genes.
            Fourth Generation (F4): The proportion of ape genes will start to decrease, but more slowly compared to backcrossing with humans.
            Fifth Generation (F5): Further dilution occurs, but the process is gradual.
            Sixth Generation (F6): The proportion of ape genes continues to decrease.
            Seventh Generation (F7): The proportion of ape genes is further reduced.
            Conclusion:
            Generations: In an isolated population where the hybrid offspring continue to mate within their own group, it would take more generations for the ape genes to become a smaller proportion compared to the human genes. A rough estimate would be around 10 to 15 generations for the ape genes to take a secondary role, with the offspring looking more human than ape. However, this is a rough estimate and can vary based on the specific genetic traits and selective pressures.
            Summary:
            Generations: Approximately 10 to 15 generations of continued mating within the hybrid group would be sufficient for the ape genes to take a secondary role, with the offspring looking more human than ape. This process is slower compared to backcrossing with humans due to the maintenance of the ape genetic contribution in an isolated population.”

            Taxonomists and geneticists believe that blacks should be classified as a different species. In fact, Darwin declared in The Descent of Man that the blacks are so distinct that similar differences found in any other animal would warrant their classification as a different species.

            We must also look into the fact that Carbon Dating and the preposterous numbers, they give, are a lie. It’s on a par with telling us that the earth’s core is 1,800 miles down, yet the farthest they’ve dug is 8 miles. Ok….

            And still they tell us that (from AI on Human Evolutionary Stages):

            “Human evolution can be traced back over seven million years, with several key stages and species contributing to the development of modern humans, Homo sapiens.

            Homo erectus: This species evolved around 2 million years ago and is considered a key ancestor of modern humans. Homo erectus was the first to leave Africa and migrate to other regions of the world, including Europe and Asia.

            Australopithecus afarensis: Known for the famous fossil “Lucy,” this species lived about 3.2 million years ago and is considered an intermediate stage between more tree-dwelling ancestors and modern humans. Lucy’s bones suggest she walked upright but had an ape-like skull.

            Homo habilis: Appearing around 2.8 million years ago, this species is one of the earliest known members of the genus Homo. They are known for their use of stone tools.
            Homo heidelbergensis: This species lived between 700,000 and 200,000 years ago and is believed to be the common ancestor of both Neanderthals and modern humans.

            Neanderthals (Homo neanderthalensis): Lived in Europe and parts of Asia from about 400,000 to 40,000 years ago. They had prominent eye ridges and large jaws and teeth, and their brains were similar in size to modern humans.

            Homo sapiens: Modern humans evolved in Africa within the past 200,000 years and began migrating out of Africa around 60,000 years ago.”

            It’s all lies and the Jews are exceptionally good at lying with numbers aren’t they?

            They tell us that inter-species breeding is not possible yet why does Leviticus 18:23 exist? Is the confusion, therefore, not the creation of the two? Would this not be comparable to the very reason the flood happened?

            We know that hybrids exist. They’ve been doing it for a long time now, yet tell us it’s not possible, just like they say the earth spins at 463m every second, the holocaust happened, they send men to the moon, Yahshua was a Jew and Jews are Israelites. I don’t believe anything they say.

            More so, their lie that interbreeding doesn’t exist, along with Darwinian evolution (which illustrates exactly this) is their argument against the Nephilim sinning with the beasts argument and the likewise creation of the other races.

            As I stated, they weren’t created in Genesis 1, they are NOT Adam, meaning God never created them, so who did? This only leaves the Nephilim (whose story also ties in with classical mythologies) or other Gods on this earth. It’s the only story, really, that we have to go on. There is no other. We can also look into the possibility that Cain or his offspring may very well have bred with these ‘hu-mans’ too.

            If we don’t ask questions, we’ll never get any answers. I for one believe strongly in knowing who my enemy is, their strengths and their weaknesses, because a big battle is certainly on its way.

          • CFT

            March 29, 2025 at 4:25 pm

            Marcus,
            Yes, recent genetic studies on blacks show that they have “archaic” genes from “homo erectus”, and that would certainly preclude them from any possibility that they are from Adam.

            But isn’t it a logical fallacy to conclude that just because a life form isn’t Adamic that God didn’t necessarily create it? Isn’t it quite possible, as you mentioned, that God created non-Adamic life forms to punish his Adamic creation in one way or another?

            Do you believe that the “beasts of the field” in Genesis are not necessarily “human”? Many have proposed that in Genesis 1:24, the “living creatures” (from Strong’s #2416) or “chay” may refer to non-Adamic peoples.
            https://biblehub.com/hebrew/2416.htm

            Is there a way around not having to rely so heavily on the Nephilim to account for the non-Adamics?

          • Marcus

            March 29, 2025 at 5:47 pm

            Hello CFT,

            “Do you believe that the “beasts of the field” in Genesis are not necessarily “human”?”

            In Genesis 1:24, the Hebrew word used for ‘beast’ is בְּהֵמָה (bᵉhēmâ H929 Strong’s Concordance reference). it is also the same word used in Leviticus 18:23. ‘Behema’ translated means ‘a dumb beast, any large quadruped, animal’

            “Many have proposed that in Genesis 1:24, the “living creatures” (from Strong’s #2416) or “chay” may refer to non-Adamic peoples.”

            I don’t believe this belief for two reasons. Firstly, if God created Adam in his own image, then he would already have done so with the non Adamics Genesis 1:24 and said so then. Although different they are similar (for reasons explained in my above reply).
            Secondly, this would too similar to The Babylonian Talmud where it states in Zohar, Shemoth, Toldoth Noah, Lekh-Lekha

            ‘Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night.

            Thirdly, in Genesis 1:20-22 God created all sea and bird life. The ‘creature that moveth’ would imply the Fish, Molluscs, Arthropods, Echinoderms, Cnidarians, Sponges, Annelids, Nemotodes, Platyhelminthes, Tunicates etc. Likewise in Genesis 1:24 God did the same but for the earth. So other than the cattle and beasts of the field the other ‘living creatures’ would be those that weren’t creeping things (insects, amphibians, reptiles, invertebrates etc) such as other mammals (not cattle & livestock), Marsupials, monotremes etc.

            “Is there a way around not having to rely so heavily on the Nephilim to account for the non-Adamics?”

            Trust me CFT, I really want to, but I’m looking at this logically and cannot see Genesis 1:24’s ‘living creatures’ as referencing to pre Adamics’.

            I know that you do not accept The Book of Enoch or Giants, but they’re all we have to work with, when it comes to the story of how the non Adamics were created. As stated in my earlier reply, the parts of Enoch and Giants that reference the Nephilim were found in the Dead Sea Scrolls and therefore are legitimate sources.

            Caesar, in his war with Pompey set fire to the harbour in Egypt, with the flames spreading to the city and the Great Library of Alexandria. The amount of damage is disputed, but I believe that much of what was within, that will certainly shed light on much that we don’t know on this topic, resides within the Apostolic Archives, under the Vatican. It really also wouldn’t surprise me that other texts, we’ve never heard of, have not only been deliberately kept out of the Apocrypha, but from our knowledge of existence, on this very topic.

            Think about it CFT? If you wanted to control a world’s people, by bringing them all under the reign of Christian Universalism, do you really think they’d get far if there was a text, within the bible or Apocrypha which told the story I have on how the non Adamic came into existence?

            Why did God bring the flood if not to remove abominations? How did we get the giants of the Canaanite peoples otherwise? We have to accept that the flood was done to destroy the corruption on earth and it didn’t do its job sufficiently enough.

            There is much more to this story than we’re being let on and as you stated in your previous reply: “…the Bible isn’t about them [non Adamics], so it shouldn’t surprise us that that the Israelites who wrote it didn’t feel it necessary to clearly give an account of them.” but CFT, what if there IS accounts of them, written by the Israelites, but deliberately kept out of the bible & Apocrypha?

            Like flat earth, I think this is also of importance. I think anything, deliberately being hidden from us is of importance.

            God bless.

          • Marcus

            April 6, 2025 at 10:30 am

            CFT,

            I left out the most important part.

            As you will see from my replies above, the chimera offspring of a primate and man, if it mated with only mankind from then onwards, it would take (from the above AI reply): “approximately 7 generations of continued backcrossing with humans would be sufficient for most distinguishing ape features to almost completely disappear, leaving the offspring looking almost entirely human.”

            I was shut down, from a long debate with ChatGPT on this, because I mentioned Darwin’s quote (above) from his 1871 book ‘The Descent of Man’ – “the blacks are so distinct that similar differences found in any other animal would warrant their classification as a different species”

            The important part is this:

            From the evolution of Ape to man, according to Darwinian evolution and anthropology:

            “Australopithecus: This genus includes species like Australopithecus afarensis (famous for the “Lucy” fossil), which lived about 3.9 to 2.9 million years ago. These early hominins were bipedal but still had small brains and were not tool users.

            Homo habilis: Lived about 2.8 to 1.5 million years ago. Often considered the first species of the genus Homo, with a slightly larger brain and the beginning of tool use.

            Homo erectus: Lived from about 1.9 million to 143,000 years ago. Known for being the first to leave Africa and for having a larger brain capacity and more advanced tools.
            Homo heidelbergensis: Lived from about 700,000 to 200,000 years ago. This species is considered a common ancestor to both Neanderthals and modern humans.

            Homo neanderthalensis: Lived from about 400,000 to 40,000 years ago, primarily in Europe and parts of western Asia. Known for their robust build and advanced tool use.

            Homo sapiens idaltu: An early form of modern humans, living around 160,000 to 154,000 years ago. This subspecies is often considered a precursor to modern Homo sapiens.

            Homo sapiens sapiens: The current and only surviving species of the genus Homo, with the earliest known fossils dating back to around 300,000 years ago. Modern humans are characterized by a larger brain capacity and complex behaviors such as art, language, and sophisticated tools.”

            There just happen to be 7 evolutionary stages between ape and man, which is precisely the same number of generations needed to remove the ape distinguishing features and turn the original ape-man chimera into a ‘hu-man’

            They have led us a merry dance telling us that the different stages of man’s evolution date back to 2.8 million years ago, yet as you will see carbon dating is a lie and they can only go back, realistically, 5,000 years.

            Radiometric Dating Debunked in 3 Minutes

            So what is the real story:

            1. The Earth is flat and always has been. We live in a bubble – waters above us and below. They created the globe model to destroy the belief in God.

            2. Adam and Eve were the first people on this earth and they were white. Genesis 1:24 is simply the creation of the animals and not pre Adamics because God created Adam in his image (Genesis 1:26) which would contradict Genesis 1:24 as man had already been created then.

            3. The Nephilim sinned with the beasts, creating the chimera of man and ape (and other chimeras as we can see from Roman, Greek, Celtic and all world mythologies). This was why God brought the flood, but many survived.
            It is the only theory that we have. even with evolutionary biology, something was added to the mix of Ape to bring the progression towards homo sapiens.

            4. All non white peoples are simply each evolutionary stage, from primate and man. So the first generation of chimera mated with man and others with ape. The second the same etc and that’s why we have all the different peoples as we do on this earth. It really wouldn’t surprise me if some of the peoples aren’t just ape, but other animals as well, as again stated in the Book of Enoch and Giants and the ‘Sinning with the Beasts.

            I believe that The Vatican hold many truths and hidden texts from the Dead Sea Scrolls and Library at Alexandria within its vaults. The Roman Catholic Church has been the primary vehicle to promote Christian Universalism and Christian Identity utterly obliterates it. The Roman Catholic church cannot, therefore, have the control they have over the world’s population in all the continents. All these peoples, as many have already stated, cannot be redeemed through Yahshua, because they are not perfect in their generations of the Houses of Shem, Ham, Japheth, nor Israelites. They cannot be Christians. How much wealth would the corrupt Roman Catholic Church lose as a result? How much chaos, would ensue in this world when the overwhelming majority, of the world’s population, realise who they really are, where they are from, which is not from a place of good, but incredible evil? Because, when we look at it, you are either an Adamite or you aren’t.

            All are lies – The age and of the world, dinosaurs, Human evolution, Out of Africa theory, Heliocentrism, the ‘three’ Abrahamic religions, Judeo-Christianity, the Bubonic Plague, the Holocaust, the moon landing, 9/11… and right at the epicentre of each is Judaism/Freemasonry.

            God bless.

      • ONLYWHITEPEOPLEAREHUMAN

        June 3, 2025 at 5:56 pm

        The church shut down the jesuits.

        The suppression of the Society of Jesus was the removal of all members of the Jesuits from most of Western Europe and their respective colonies beginning in 1759 along with the abolition of the order by the Holy See in 1773; the papacy acceded to anti-Jesuit demands without much resistance. The Jesuits were serially expelled from the Portuguese Empire (1759), France (1764), the Two Sicilies, Malta, Parma, the Spanish Empire (1767) and Austria and Hungary (1782).[1] – Wikipedia

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  6. Christ Is King

    March 19, 2025 at 10:56 pm

    Hurrah! CFT is back! Praise God! I’m so glad!

    I really enjoyed this article, and comments.

    I really have no idea about what shape the earth is. That being said: if we’re spinning on a globe… why don’t I feel like I’m moving? On a merry-go-round I get the sense of movement and if I go to fast I get flung off. If we’re on a spinning globe, why am I not getting flung off? after all, we’re spinning really fast on the earth, so they say.

    Gravity doesn’t stop me from flinging off the merry-go-round, but it somehow stops me from being flung off the earth even though the earth is spinning way faster than I can spin on a merry-go-round. Is it because the earth is massive and a merry-go-round is wee? I really dunno.

    Just me musing on a complex topic.

    Thanks, and God bless you CFT and all other Truth seekers out there!

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    • CFT

      March 20, 2025 at 4:29 pm

      Christ Is King,
      Glad to see you’re back. We’ve always valued your comments, filled with humor and Christian patience and hope.

      As you say, this topic has been made out to be a “complex” topic, but only those who propose such an absurd model have made it seem complex. As Paul said, we should focus on the “simplicity that is in Christ” — and our world is far more simple than the “scientists” have made it out to be.

      But the reality is, as you pointed out, that none of us live as if we are on a spinning ball hurtling through space at over one million miles an hour. We live our lives as if the earth is flat, stable and permanent. And if someone in an authority position hadn’t told us otherwise, we never would have thought such an complex idea could be true.

      Welcome back!

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      • Christ Is King

        March 20, 2025 at 5:23 pm

        Thank you for your kind words, CFT. Much appreciated. 🙂

        Keep up the good work! God bless you!

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      • West

        March 21, 2025 at 7:54 am

        “….And if someone in an authority position hadn’t told us otherwise, we never would have thought such an complex idea could be true.,,,”

        Hear, hear. Amen.

        If I grew up on a deserted island with only the Bible, I’d say the Earth had 4 corners. This is about all I would know.

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  7. Marcus

    March 19, 2025 at 1:46 pm

    There is a video on YouTube that shows a man, zooming in to the sun, with a Nikon P1000. This has an optical zoom of 125X. It means it can see 375 miles, compared to the human eye’s 3 miles.

    Now for all of those who truly believe that the sun is 93 million miles away, then tell me, how this is scientifically (and logically) possible, that a man can zoom right into the sun, up close, with a camera that has a magnification of 125 that of the human eye? There isn’t a device, on this earth, that could bring the sun any closer into magnification, were it actually 93million miles away.

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  8. Van

    March 17, 2025 at 2:45 pm

    Trudeau’s puppetmasters know that all conspiracy theories lead to the jews. That’s why they fear flat earth. It’s the ultimate conspiracy theory.

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    • TheHolyCrow

      March 18, 2025 at 12:34 pm

      Are we the only flat piece of the firmament in present existence ?
      With all of the telescopes out in space, you would think they could point one at Earth and photograph it from all points. If it was flat, it would sure be a lot different from every other large body out there that is basically spherical. And can be plainly seen with all that high tech hardware beaming digital images back to Earth for the past few decades. Have you heard of any other discoveries out there that are flat ??? Now, I’m not discounting that perhaps we are the exception to the rule, but they have counted TRILLIONS of galaxies, each one with HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of spherical stars contained in it. And not one report of a flat star or planet similar to what conjures up when you hear the words “Flat Earth”.
      Some years ago there was a scientist on TV who explained where all the tiny spherical iron particles came from in the WTC dust. First you have a molten droplet of iron, and as its flying through space and cooling as a result of a BIG BANG, it draws itself into a sphere because of SURFACE TENSION and stays that way when it is cooled. Apparently, Surface Tension is a fact of science that those who observe things, for a living, just can’t ignore.

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      • mosh

        March 19, 2025 at 4:14 am

        TheHolyCow says “First you have a molten droplet of iron, and as its flying through space and cooling as a result of a BIG BANG, it draws itself into a sphere because of SURFACE TENSION and stays that way when it is cooled”

        The problem with your theory is that in space there is no atmosphere, therefore no atmospheric pressure. It is, the experts say, a vacuum.

        Without air pressure in space, no molten drop of anything would form into a “sphere” because there would be no surface tension.

        In the vacuum of space, all liquids and gasses would disperse, not coalesce.

        The Big Bang theory, like evolution, violates Newton’s 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, which says that all systems tend to go from order to disorder.

        Big Bangers believe somehow the universe went from complete disorder and became ordered. Newton would roll on the floor laughing at this idea.

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    • TheHolyCrow

      March 18, 2025 at 1:02 pm

      To believe that the Earth is flat, in the midst of Billions of Trillions of otherwise spherical celestial bodies, and billions of iron spheres spread out across Manhattan, is just plain ludicrous. The whole thing smacks of George Orwell’s 2 + 2 = 5 !!!
      Have you ever seen those tiny round balls that make up a shotgun shell containing Bird Shot ? To make the Bird Shot, they drip molten led from the top of a high tower, and by the time it gets to the ground it is cooled and spherical. Because of SURFACE TENSION !!!

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      • Marcus

        March 19, 2025 at 7:38 am

        TheHolyCrow,

        “To believe that the Earth is flat, in the midst of Billions of Trillions of otherwise spherical celestial bodies, and billions of iron spheres spread out across Manhattan, is just plain ludicrous. The whole thing smacks of George Orwell’s 2 + 2 = 5 !!!”

        And you believe them?
        Have a look at Nasa’s Mars Mission but not that from the msm.

        It was filmed in Canada, in Devon Island (previous comment I incorrectly stated Devil’s Island). Everything matches identically. Now why would they do this? Why didn’t they just go to Mars, as you believe clearly exists? Why isn’t this on the msm? Why aren’t journalists questioning it? Why is the msm remaining silent?

        Have you ever seen REAL pictures of the ‘planets’?

        I think what frustrates me the most is that which you and the majority perceive to be real is an illusion, promoted by a parasitic industry, run by snake oil salesmen. Let’s look at reality shall we? The human eye can see 3 miles.

        A Nixon P900 camera has an 83X zoom so it can see 249 miles into the distance. The Nikon P900 camera with a 10x magnification and can see up to 30 miles. The Celestron 31145 NexStar 130SLT telescope has 65x magnification it can see up to 195 miles Both are around the same cost (£480). Now think about this won’t you? They’re telling you that you can zoom into objects millions of miles away with cameras and telescopes that can see a maximum of 195 miles?

        This nonsense is like the holocaust nonsense. No one bothers to do the maths. Looking at the holocaust, if, as we were told there were 15 crematoria in Auschwitz, able to cremate your average person in 2.5 hours, that would mean, non stop they could cremate 144 bodies in a day. They said 4.5 million people were ‘murdered’ by the Third Reich there. That’s 4.5 million divided by 144 bodies a day, which equals a total of 31,250 days It would have taken the Third Reich 85.6 years to cremate the bodies, without any break, of the people we were told they murdered.

        Now you’re telling me that a Nixon P900 can zoom into something 93 million miles away like the sun ? The religion of science feeds you nonsense and you believe them. This is further reinforced by the billions they spend on Hollywood, TV, comics, books and radio, each further adding to the indoctrination of aliens, planets, galaxies and universes.

        You, along with billions of people on this earth all happily watch the Great Wizard of Oz, while the snake oil salesman, pushes the buttons and pulls the levers of this great deception.

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        • Marcus

          March 19, 2025 at 8:27 am

          Sorry all but the following paragraph was a bit of a hodgepodge unfortunately and confusing:

          “A Nixon P900 camera has an 83X zoom so it can see 249 miles into the distance. The Nikon P900 camera with a 10x magnification and can see up to 30 miles. The Celestron 31145 NexStar 130SLT telescope has 65x magnification it can see up to 195 miles Both are around the same cost (£480). Now think about this won’t you? They’re telling you that you can zoom into objects millions of miles away with cameras and telescopes that can see a maximum of 195 miles?”

          It should read:

          “The Nikon P900 has an 83X zoom so it can effectively see 249 miles into the distance. The Celestron 31145 NexStar 130SLT telescope has 65x magnification it can see up to 195 miles Both are around the same cost (£480). Now think about this won’t you? They’re telling you that you can zoom into objects millions of miles away with cameras and telescopes that can see a maximum of 249 miles?”

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        • zak

          March 24, 2025 at 9:51 am

          bravo

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  9. dr. dr.

    March 11, 2025 at 3:59 pm

    Ask yourself this:
    What force causes the earth to supposedly rotate on its axis at the same speed for the last millions, or billions of years?
    Why does it never slow down?
    A top won’t spin forever without an outside force keeping it spinning, nor will the earth.

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    • TheHolyCrow

      March 18, 2025 at 1:12 pm

      Maybe we slow down an inch of revolution per million years ? That would be almost imperceptible to us mere mortals, but in the long run those inches will all add up over the duration of eternity. Some things may last a long time, but they are not perpetual motion. “Even the Stars will pass away”, someone once said.

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  10. Pointer

    March 11, 2025 at 3:51 am

    This guy asks a simple logical question. How can we see Venus at night when earth is supposedly facing away from Venus and the sun? Ask yourself how we can see the same stars at night in the summer and winter when we are supposedly on the opposite side of the sun facing in the opposite direction.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouSHZ08KG58

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    • TheHolyCrow

      March 18, 2025 at 1:16 pm

      Because the planet tilts, that’s why the Sun is low on the horizon during the winter.

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  11. Normant

    March 8, 2025 at 4:49 pm

    As Ezra Pound said.
    Ezra Pound – ‘Two Lies’
    The Technique of Infamy is to invent two lies and to get people arguing heatedly over which one is true
    https://i.imgur.com/ovxJnAe.jpeg

    Distract the Goy.
    https://i.imgur.com/EsdhBGf.jpeg

    Justin Trudeau and Podesta.
    https://i.imgur.com/U3B5oN2.jpg

    Justin Trudeau’s Long-Term Friend Jailed After International Pedophile Ring Bust.Christopher Charles Ingvaldson, 42, a long-term close friend of Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau, has been found guilty of child pornography charges after being caught directing an international pedophile ring.
    https://crier.co/justin-trudeaus-best-friend-found-guilty-of-child-porn-charges-directing-world-wide-child-porn-ring/

    Justin Trudeau Lights Menorah.
    https://i.imgur.com/3GiP8In.png

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    • zak

      March 24, 2025 at 9:54 am

      infamy, ‘will live in infamy’–thank you ezra and normant

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  12. Odin's left eye

    March 8, 2025 at 3:02 pm

    CFT, firstly, it’s good to see you back!

    Concerning your present article, I can tell that neither you nor your ‘flat Earth’-believing commenters under this article are birdwatchers, particularly birders who observe birds on a coast where ships travel directly from that coast to over the horizon. 🙂

    Through my bird-watching telescope I have watched many ships disappear over the horizon from the lowest visible part of the ship to the highest visible part. Finally, clearly through my scope, I see the top of the ship disappear.

    Rather than read about this subject online, to those who are unfamiliar with such evidence of a spherical Earth, I recommend the following practical exercise: (a) go to a coast where ships travel over the horizon and (b) ask someone with a telescope to let you look through their telescope to see how the ship disappears from view. Does the ship (i) fade away in the distance as a whole object (as it might do if Earth was flat) or (ii) does the ship disappear from bottom to top?

    There’s no need to argue about this subject when you can see for yourself how ships disappear over the horizon. 🙂

    CFT I hope that you and your family remain well.

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    • Pointer

      March 8, 2025 at 6:20 pm

      O.L.E.
      I’d guess that your bird watching telescope is not powerful enough to bring things back into view that have disappeared at the horizon.

      Try getting a Nikon P900 digital zoom which can do just that….by the way, the P900 has been discontinued with an agreement between Nikon and NASA….they don’t like what people are using it for….like making boats reappear at the horizon or the sun rise after it’s “set”…..

      Watch….
      https://www.bitchute.com/video/lCh7W7WvmLGP

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    • mosh

      March 9, 2025 at 4:23 pm

      Watch clouds as they disappear into the horizon….are they falling to the earth as they recede as they appear to be?
      Do the bottom of the clouds appear to touch the earth before the tops?
      Or do the clouds just get smaller and disappear?
      Come on.
      That’s the argument you’re making.

      It proves nothing except that’s how our field of vision works: in the distance the ground seems to rise to the sky, and the sky seems to lower to the ground.
      That’s why the bottom of a boat seems to disappear first instead of shrinking into a dot.
      And that’s why a powerful zoom lens can bring back a ship that disappeared into the distance, because it didn’t go over some curve of the earth.

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      • kai

        March 9, 2025 at 5:15 pm

        Because our eyeballs are spheres, they impose an artificial curvature on what we see — much like a wide angle lens on a camera. Literally our eyes deceive us into thinking the horizon is curved.

        It’s not the earth that’s curved, it’s our eyes.

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    • ArmedPatriot

      March 14, 2025 at 7:20 am

      Explain how the water keeps level….

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      • zak

        March 24, 2025 at 10:02 am

        yes, water always comes to rest level, regardless of size of container, from a coffee cup to an ocean; curvature is imperially undetectable, conclusive.

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  13. Creat

    March 7, 2025 at 11:04 am

    Much of what people see as fact and truth requires trust that others aren’t lying to you. I personally think gov probably is pushing flat earth due to a couple of very basic experiments that tell me we’re on a sphere. However, It’s not an important argument to me in the first place.

    Ultimately, you have to believe a couple of different things to go with flat Earth:
    1. You have to believe we have never been to space, and all of that evidence from every nation is fake and gay. Possible, but increasingly unlikely. Yes, Stanley Kubrick did make some fake moon footage.

    2. You have to believe that somehow you are seeing basic things wrong: Water droplets trying to form into spheres when in the air, for example. Another the fact that ships on the horizon on the ocean show as the top of the mast first and not the entire front profile of the ship, which suggests curvature.

    3. You have to believe God would let man be the center of this universe. IMO that’s just not going to happen. It makes sense the sun, as symbol of God, would be central, while planets and moons are reflecting satellites. Goodness knows we are arrogant enough without that.

    What I don’t hear people discuss on this topic is dimensionality, and the fact the physical 3D world isn’t the only one, and that there are levels of connection between this dimension and others. IMO, this will come into play for some of the mystery.

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    • Pointer

      March 7, 2025 at 3:56 pm

      You answered your own question. Yeah, everything about space travel is fake and gay. All moon missions are fake and technologically impossible.

      The negative air pressure alone in space would cause every space ship and astronaut to explode. The largest vacuum chamber in America (Sandusky, OH) can’t create even a fraction of the negative air pressure that is allegedly in the upper atmosphere, let alone Earth’s orbit or the moon.

      The alleged temperatures of the upper atmosphere are hotter than the melting point of the materials used in the “space” craft and rockets.

      All the footage from the ISS space station is done in a studio. There is no footage of it being assembled in space, the “greatest” engineering project ever attempted.

      NASA employs a literal army of artists, computer graphics designers, video experts to create all the images and videos that they release. NASA and Hollywood have worked together from the beginning.

      NASA admits they can’t pass through the radiation belt above Earth without frying all their instruments, which means all the images from the Hubble and Webb space telescopes of “deep space” are fake.

      All images of the Earth from “space” from NASA are admittedly photoshopped and CGI “composites.

      I could go on and on….

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    • mosh

      March 7, 2025 at 5:18 pm

      Creat said “Water droplets trying to form into spheres when in the air….”

      What does this prove?
      That the liquid earth formed into a sphere in the vacuum of space?
      Or that if the earth were flat, water droplets would be flat?
      In a vacuum, water droplets do NOT form into spheres.
      They form into spheres because of surface tension (static electricity) and air pressure.
      Since space is supposedly really cold, by your logic the earth should have frozen into a snow flake, no?

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    • Marcus

      March 8, 2025 at 9:53 am

      Creat,

      “I personally think gov probably is pushing flat earth due to a couple of very basic experiments that tell me we’re on a sphere.”

      What came first: government or Genesis 1:7?

      “You have to believe we have never been to space”

      And what proof is there we actually have? Moon landing? All the CGI of the Hubble Telescope and earth images? The Mars Expedition that was actually filmed at ‘Devil’s Island’ in Canada. All the space walks you watch are filmed in an underwater tank.

      “You have to believe that somehow you are seeing basic things wrong: Water droplets trying to form into spheres when in the air, for example.”

      Water droplets are, as they are due to the equal force of air within and outside. However, they fall for one simple reason and one simple reason only – weight of droplet compared to the weight of air particles that surround them – not the nonsense of gravity, this ‘magical’ force that pulls everything towards the centre of the earth. If you take a 1kg weight and drop it, it will fall, for reasons already explained. However, if you hammer that 1kg weight to within a fraction of a mm (expanding its size) and then drop it, it will not fall as fast. Why is that? Where is the gravity pulling it down? It falls slower for one reason and one reason only – it is no longer as dense as it was, now having more air particles within. The air particles now offer much more resistance.

      “Another the fact that ships on the horizon on the ocean show as the top of the mast first and not the entire front profile of the ship, which suggests curvage (correction: curvature).”

      No, what you are witnessing are ships leaving our field of vision. Take a piece of paper, draw a line from the top right to the bottom left and top left to the bottom right. Where they meet is the point if intersection. This is how our eyes work. The point where the left eye meets the right eye’s field of vision, where they intersect, is called the ‘focal point’. It means that anything that goes beyond that focal point, leaves our field of vision and disappears. The human eye can see 3 miles. Now, take a camera, say a Nixon P900. It has a zoom of 10x that of the human eye, so can see 30 miles into the distance. Now look at the ship that’s disappeared (or gone over the earth’s curvature) and you will instantly bring it back into focus. You will also see the horizon beyond it. The horizon you see is not the human eye horizon, but the newly formed p900 horizon. What this therefore means is that the higher the zoom magnification, the farther the horizon which equates to a flat plane that is endless.

      There video in a previous reply (“Why this Flat Earth video is IMPORTANT” by Mark Sargent) proves there is no earth curvature.

      “You have to believe God would let man be the center of this universe. IMO that’s just not going to happen. It makes sense the sun, as symbol of God, would be central, while planets and moons are reflecting satellites. Goodness knows we are arrogant enough without that.”

      Your whole argument is based on the concept that we live on a spinning ball, circling a huge sun, while traveling through a massive galaxy, among many, many more, within a large universe, constantly expanding from a big bang with absolutely no proof, whatsoever to prove this – other than the say so of, ahem, freemasons (Jews).

      Belief in heliocentrism is as a result of indoctrination, from an early age, that has continued throughout your adult life, courtesy of Jews controlling every establishment that are there to educate and act as an early warning system to the public from those who seek to do them harm.

      As I have mentioned in my comments on this thread, NASA and the entertainment systems have not only acted as establishments which have indoctrinated the public, but have also taken billions from them as well, in order to continue the façade and make themselves exceptionally wealthy. You are utterly incapable of understanding the lie that is heliocentrism because of this indoctrination, so much so that when you are actually told the truth you answer as you do, due to cognitive dissonance.

      We live in a time of universal deceit. Everything is a deception and in order to continue covering up that deception, more and more lies are told. The dystopian existence we live in now, courtesy of Jews, is now hanging from a thread. That thread is about to snap as a result of the weight of all of those lies.

      They know their time is coming to an end. They know judgement awaits them. They know it’s all over.

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      • David Currie

        March 16, 2025 at 8:58 am

        Well said brother! I would add this about “the Jews” (my mother’s parents were ‘Jewish’): According to the righteous Benjamin Freedman (RIP), the terms “Jew” was invented in 1775, and “Judaism” was invented in the 18th century too. Previously they were called the “Yiddish people” and their religion and rabbis called “Talmudists”.

        Freemasons use the Talmud and Kabbalah too, not just Jews and Jesuits. Together, along with all satanists, they are part of the “synagogue of satan” Yeshua warned us about.

        I’m glad to have found a Christian website that apparently isn’t controlled, and provides insight from critical thinkers with open minds. Bookmarked and liked – thank you!

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        • Marcus

          March 17, 2025 at 4:14 am

          David,

          The word ‘Jew’ was created in the 17th century as previously there was no letter ‘J’ in the English alphabet until the 18th century. That said we must not forget that just because the word ‘Jew’ came about in the 18th century, Judaism had already existed for millennia.

          The Babylonian Talmud, came into existence between the 4th & 5th centuries AD. It was the written compilation of the ‘Traditions of the Elders’, that is the laws of man that Yahshua rebuked the Pharisees for following.

          The word Jew, wrongly, replaced both a member of the tribe of Judah and an inhabitant of the Roman province of Judea, so that while all Judahites, Benjaminites and Levites were Judeans, not all Judeans were Judahites, Benjaminites and Levites.

          Only a very small percentage of members of the House of Israel lived in Judea, after the Babylonian captivity. It was for this reason, that the Jews, started to change the bibles, replacing the word Jew within, as it muddies the waters, confusing history and programming people into believing that a Jew was an Israelite.

          For example, if you search on any search engine, the Israelites are automatically promoted as ‘Jews’ Take the following, for example from Brave AI – Leo:

          “The Babylonian captivity, also known as the Babylonian exile, was a period in Jewish history during which a large number of Judeans from the ancient Kingdom of Judah were forcibly relocated to Babylonia by the Neo-Babylonian Empire…..The Babylonian captivity is significant in Jewish history as it marks a period of profound theological reflection and a resurgence in Jewish tradition. Jewish leaders no longer spoke about a theology of judgment but a theology of salvation. Texts such as Ezekiel and Isaiah began to talk about the Israelites being gathered together once more, their society and religion purified, and the unified Davidic kingdom being re-established.”

          People reading the above, who never knew better, would see the Jews as of the tribe of Judah and as Israelites. They would see the Jewish tradition as the Israelites tradition, when as explained above, the Jewish tradition was the Tradition of the Elders, not the Laws of YHWH.

          While Freemasons and Jesuits both use the Babylonian Talmud, let us not forget that Freemasonry is Jewish as are the Jesuits (whom they used to infiltrate and control the church). Freemasonry, for example, is known as ‘Talmudism for the Goy’.

          I need not go into deeper explanation on this as you will find all the answers you need, here on this website. I would recommend starting here:

          Who Are The Jews? (And Who They Are Not)

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    • Chimoio

      March 8, 2025 at 3:06 pm

      creat

      go to a beach, seafront promenade whatever,
      from where its possible to observe ships moving away from the land.
      if you have a working pair of eyes
      take a binocular or telescope or some such with you
      select a ship that is heading toward the horizon and watch till it “disappears”
      now put the magnifying device of your choice to your eyes
      focus on the point of “disappearance”
      et voila!
      the “disappeared” vessel will be once again be visible top and bottom
      having merely gone beyond your field of vision
      and NOT downhill on a bended sea!!
      never been known to fail…!!.
      peace and Life!

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  14. Jus.B

    March 6, 2025 at 5:39 pm

    Gnosticacademy and Dance of Life podcast with Tudor Alexander are two Christian YouTubers that talk about flat earth, and Vigilia Creatoris has Brian Austin Lamber’s unique view of flat earth.

    Once you go flat you can’t go back . Luke 17:20-22 KJV

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    • CFT

      March 7, 2025 at 3:12 am

      Jus.B,
      Yes, there are many Christian groups who explore FE, which is encouraging. However, as far as the Gnostic Academy goes, we would caution any Christian not to seek any “secret” or “lost” knowledge that is necessary to understand the Gospels.

      Gnosticism caused a schism among early Christians, as it contradicted Paul’s notion of the “simplicity that is in Christ.” We don’t discount everything Gnostic Christians say, but all we suggest is to use discernment, as we would with any group.

      That said, Flat Earth is not a gnostic idea — quite the opposite. As we demonstrated in this article, it is the Copernican Model of the universe that was originally based on occult hidden knowledge that has been pushed on Christians and everyone else.

      While the Flat Earth, on the other hand, is explicitly described throughout scripture, not hidden.

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  15. luke2236

    March 5, 2025 at 11:41 am

    ‘flat earth’ can not be proven either Biblically or logically. And that’s if even you ignore mountains of empirical evidence to the contrary.

    However, the ‘spinning globe’ model is certainly open to question and the Bible does indicate a geocentric universe, i.e. Earth at the centre as opposed to the Sun.

    It’s an interesting discussion, but We have much bigger problems to confront than this my friends.

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    • West

      March 6, 2025 at 8:35 am

      —— Luke2236——

      “…It’s an interesting discussion, but We have much bigger problems to confront than this my friends….”

      Took the words right out of my mouth. 🙂

      While CFT was out — I spent some time getting involved with a CI group on Face Book.

      However …….. I’m pretty sure it was a FED recruiting honey-pot. A couple of the guys kept pushing — white-power dot org i.e., we need to take the fight to them.

      Curious what some here might think about this. I’m old school. I just see Red Flags all over this. But this is a supposed “Christian Identity” based group.

      I just don’t see any place for German Regalia in this present day. I love the Germans circa 1933 and the Great Austrian Painter gave it a good try — but ……

      I think even if George Lincoln Rockwell were alive today — he’d agree that we need to drop the costumes and flags.

      Thoughts?

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      • luke2236

        March 6, 2025 at 9:07 pm

        I believe your suspicions are correct; ALWAYS suspect anything on faceplant anyway!!!

        And yes, ”optics” are a big deal. Pretty sure I agree with you about the use of certain symbols – no matter how ‘good’ or appealing they may be – at this juncture.

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      • Peter

        March 7, 2025 at 5:37 pm

        Agree….German regalia is mostly political, and Christians should not obsess about politics because both sides are anti-Christian. It’s mostly become nostalgia, the good old days.
        Though I do believe that the swastika is a sign of God found all around the world, wherever aryans settled.
        The swatika derives from the seasonal position of the Big Dipper in the night sky. Look it up. Not a coincidence.

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    • Marcus

      March 6, 2025 at 2:34 pm

      luke2236,

      I was pensive in replying to you because I don’t really want to take over the comments of CFT, but when you stated: “It’s an interesting discussion, but We have much bigger problems to confront than this my friends,” I thought to myself:

      “What could be a bigger problem to confront than exposing the lie of heliocentrism, which is going to be the very vehicle that the Jews are going to enslave mankind within”?

      Here, in the UK, we have the agenda of ‘smart cities’. This is riding on the lies of climate change and subsequently carbon footprints. It’s all about that hole in the O-Zone layer. This scam which pretty much kicked into gear with the moron, Al-Gore (making him very wealthy in due process), and will result in carbon taxes and as stated, cramming everyone into ghettos, just as what happened to the Jews.

      Yes, it’s Jew revenge over the whites. On top of that it will give them the excuse to remove all meat and have us living off of eating bugs and worms. Added to that Bill Gates wants to build a net over the Sky to protect us from the harmful rays of the sun. When you add this in with the digital currency, social credit scoring system and of course, the legal system, then you have, collectively, the Beast System (although I believe that the actual Beast System is pretty much the Laws of Man – the Legal System).

      What I’m implying is that by exposing the lies of heliocentrism, by uncovering the truth of geocentrism, then you immediately end climate change nonsense, as there’s no O-Zone and the sun does not pose us a threat from being fried by it, either by us shifting out of its orbit or getting hit with a solar flare (from Sci-Fi).

      That means no carbon taxes, no end of meat production — and more so, if this lie is exposed and WHO was behind it, then people will start asking questions about all the other lies and ultimately see the Jews for what they are.

      And to finish, the bible’s first chapter speaks of the firmament, showing that heliocentrism is a direct attack on the bible and therefore Christianity.

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      • luke2236

        March 6, 2025 at 9:04 pm

        I get what you’re saying Sir, but I don’t believe that proving ‘flat earth’ is the lynchpin upon which all those other things hinge.

        Everything you say – 15 minute cities, the lie of climate change, jews behind it all trying to enforce our enslavement etc – are problems and are true. I just don’t think this question is where it all starts.

        Add to that the fact that I do not believe ‘flat earth’ to be true and you see where I’m coming from.
        I’m all for exposing ANY lie, especially ones perpetrated by the antiChrist jew, I just don’t think this is the starting point.

        BLESS YOU for fighting the fight and continuing to try and bring Truth forth tho, even if we might disagree here.

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        • CFT

          March 7, 2025 at 3:37 am

          luke2236,
          It’s great to see you back — we have always appreciated your contributions to this forum.

          As we’ve stated in the article, it is not our intention to “prove” Flat Earth — however, we do believe that the Copernican Model has not been proven, and many scientists have conceded that point.

          We do believe that the default position is that the Earth appears to be flat — that’s how we perceive it and how we live our lives — never do we have to take into account all the problems of living on a spinning globe.

          If your teachers had never told you that you live on a spinning globe, would you ever have believed such a thing?

          From a logic point of view, people who believe the Earth is flat do not have the obligation to “prove” it is flat — rather those who claim it is a spinning globe, which is counter-intuitive, have the burden of proof.

          Likewise, people who believe we evolved from monkeys have the burden of proof — those who don’t believe we are evolved monkeys don’t have an obligation to prove we are not evolved monkeys — logically, you cannot prove a negative.

          All we ask of Christians is to understand where the Copernican Mode actually comes from, and if they are going to believe it, to at least be able to understand and acknowledge the arguments for and against it, as its implications are far-reaching for Christians.

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        • Marcus

          March 7, 2025 at 5:17 am

          luke2236

          Disagreement is always the beginning to debate and debate is the opportunity to address why one disagrees.

          I remember when I was writing an old blog and put up a post on the ‘Holocaust’, one of my commenters replied stating that he’d always believed in the holocaust and could never understand why it was that people could ever deny it, but when he read the article and was presented with the simple maths, he was left dumbstruck. A die hard holocaust believer whose beliefs were instantly obliterated by a case of simple numbers.

          That one article turned his world upside down as he started to question everything.

          As CFT stated: “If your teachers had never told you that you live on a spinning globe, would you ever have believed such a thing?”

          There is absolutely no way that people would believe that we were on a ball, spinning at 463m a second, had it not been for a concerted effort of indoctrination.

          Those behind this lie needed three things – money, a medium to promote it and a vehicle to drive it. And they had all three: they had the banks and complete control of money, the had complete control of academia and the msm and they had complete control of politicians and secret societies (to ensure that they placed their Manchurian candidates into all establishments with which to employ like-minds).

          Ironically, people equate flat earth to a CIA psy-op, yet what came first – the bible or the CIA?

          We’re in the situation we’re in because of the breaking of a commandment – “thou shalt not bear false witness” which I believe to be one of the most destructive, to society, of the commandments if not obeyed.

          Flat Earth is simply, to me, the acceptance of reality.

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    • dca

      March 7, 2025 at 6:59 pm

      “Then Joshua spoke to the BEING, in the day in which the BEING delivered the Amorite into the power of Israel, when he destroyed them in Gabaon, and they were destroyed from before the children of Israel: and Joshua said, Let the sun stand over against Gabaon, and the moon over against the valley of Ælon. 13 And the sun and the moon STOOD STILL, until Elohim executed vengeance on their enemies; and the sun stood still in the midst of heaven; it did not proceed to set till the end of one day. 14 And there was not such a day either before or after, so that Elohim should hearken to a man, because the Being fought on the side of Israel.”
      –Joshua 10, Septuagint

      Reply
    • Med

      March 8, 2025 at 4:30 am

      Be serious about this! This is just as much of a problem. If this is the enemy’s way of deceiving folks, then why not address it?

      Reply
  16. SSaxon

    March 4, 2025 at 4:59 pm

    Martin Luther said the jews generally get worse. They don’t get better or even stay at the same demonic level, but they are constantly worsening.

    I have seen the jews get exponentially worse in my lifetime. Even in the last few years their lying, screeching and grifting has gotten more extreme and intense and out in the open.

    Albert Pike’s “blue” statement in the article here reminds me of Bezos’ Blue ‘Space Program” and William Shatner the jew coming “back from space” talking about how “blue” everything “looked from space” and how he saw “death.”

    It also reminds me of the Blue Square that the Patriots football team owner tiny jew Robert “witch” Kraft uses as a symbol to “combat anti-semitism.”

    The evil they manifest is physically visible now in their eyes and mouths. It looks like outer darkness, a void. How ironic.

    As you all know, even the ADL and other groups cry in unison that attacks on “globalism” is anti-semitism.

    Jesus warned us there is NO truth in them. Their non-jewish minions have become twice the child of Hell. ( Twice as bad as jews, for they are the satanic jews’ shield and defender.)

    Thanks a lot, CFT!

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    • dca

      March 7, 2025 at 7:01 pm

      “It is in the Jewish interest, it is in humanities interest, that white’s experience genocide. Until white children are burned alive, white women raped, mutilated, murdered and all white men who have not been slaughtered watch powerlessly as their people are terrorized; only then will mankind be on an equal footing, ready to discuss white privilege and apparent chip on the shoulder that minorities have.”
      – rabbi lshmael Levitts

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  17. Marcus

    March 2, 2025 at 9:24 am

    Here are four rather telling videos:

    1. Sun under the clouds and rising straight through with the horizon clearly in the distance here and here. Absolutely stunning videos. What’s unbelievable, about this, is its evidence, that proves, above all doubt, that the sun is local and not 93 million miles away.

    There is absolutely no scenario where the sun would ever rise up THROUGH the clouds and be below the horizon. All those years of heavy indoctrination from school, along with the entertainment industry has addled people’s brains and their ability to think critically. Cognitive dissonance is an epidemic.

    2. “The moon is below the horizon by quite some way”. Again, no scenario, could ever put the moon below the horizon (just like the sun above) unless they were local bodies, within the earth and below the firmament.

    3. “Why this Flat Earth video is IMPORTANT” by Mark Sargent. Simply proves there is no earth curvature.

    These videos can’t be refuted.

    Then there are also 12 Actual Landmarks That Can Only Be Seen on a Flat Earth.

    It should also be noted that YouTube ALWAYS puts the following disclaimer, from Wikipedia, under all Flat earth videos:

    “Wikipedia • Flat Earth is an archaic and scientifically disproven conception of the Earth’s shape as a plane or disk. Many ancient cultures subscribed to a flat-Earth cosmography, notably including the cosmology in the ancient Near East. The model has undergone a recent resurgence as a conspiracy theory.”

    The flat earth, not only proves YHWH, but it also INSTANTLY destroys global warming, because there is NO Ozone layer, therefore the argument for carbon emissions can’t exist. And if the argument for them doesn’t exist, then they can’t tax people for their carbon emissions.

    It means they can’t bring in legislation to cut back on animal farming for their ‘gas’ destroying the ozone layer (and 15 mins cities in the UK). There are $trillions now, lying at stake, just in the global warming scam alone, for future carbon taxes alone.

    NASA, since its inception in 1958 has taken over $650 billion, from the US taxpayer. To adjust the figure for inflation, that’s about $790 billion. Reparation, to the Jews, for the holocaust hoax, totals around $90 billion alone.

    When we take into consideration the total revenue for Hollywood and TV sci-fi movies and their franchises, from Box Office revenue, Video & DVD sales, Streaming and Digital sales and Merchandising, you’re looking at a figure somewhere in the region of $80 billion since the 1950’s.

    Just as the discovery that the holocaust was a lie and 6 million Jews never died, along with the existence of extermination camps, exposing the heliocentrism would land a lot of people also into hot water. Just as Israel’s right to exist would come into question, along with people beginning to investigate history and all the other lies of Jews, Hollywood and TV would crumble while an overwhelming resurgence in Christianity would begin.

    The exposing of heliocentrism as a lie and that there is only one model: geocentrism is one of the most important factors in the existence of mankind, because once this is proven the Jews are exposed along with all of their lies and their House of Cards comes crashing down.

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    • kai

      March 2, 2025 at 5:29 pm

      I agree with you Marcus but all the globe defenders will explain away all your points by claiming it’s caused by “light refraction”, which is b.s. because refraction doesn’t work that way, but it’s how they dismiss any of these anomalies

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  18. Ron

    March 2, 2025 at 5:44 am

    Anglo Israel people must contentiously ask themselves this same question. And the answer is no!

    2 Chronicles 19:2
    “And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.”

    These websites are current today and all believe in the Anglo Israel message:
    https://www.youtube.com/@truthinhistory/videos
    https://tearingdownidols.com/
    https://christianamericaministries.org/
    https://www.truthfromgod.com/

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  19. Ron

    March 1, 2025 at 2:42 pm

    Here is my two cents for what it’s worth. I have contemplated this for several years.

    Mathematical calculations that control the laws of motion does not support the round earth model.

    How do you land an airplane on an eight thousand mile diameter ball going 66,705.205 mph, with pin point accuracy and a landing speed of 200 mph? Not going to happen! Let’s do the math.

    Science says we are 93,000,000 miles away from the sun X 2= 186,000,000 miles. X 3.1416 = 584,337,600 miles around the sun in 365 days (rounded up) and 24 hrs in a day. The earth also spins at 1000 mph according to science.

    93,000,000 X 2= 186,000,000 X 3.1416= 584,337,600 ÷ 365 ÷ 24= 66,705.205 mph.

    When people bring up this subject, (and it does come up quite often in the world I live in.) I tell them, that if this happens, then everything is moving in unison and proves creation.

    C.F.T., so glad you’re back. Hope everything is well with you and yours.
    Ron

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    • Rob

      March 1, 2025 at 5:34 pm

      The math shows how nuts the spinning globe is….

      If the globe is spinning at a 1,000 miles per hour, which means 1,466.6 (that magic number again) feet per second, then if you jump up in the air for only one second, you should never be able to land in the same spot you jumped up from, because the earth would have moved almost 1,500 feet underneath you.

      I don’t recall that ever happening.

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      • Med

        March 6, 2025 at 5:51 am

        Rob, you are Great!

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      • dca

        March 7, 2025 at 7:06 pm

        correct, but then the globetrotters will say; “well, the atmosphere moves with the earth.” amusing since ‘clouds’ make up the atmosphere and are observed moving in all different directions

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      • RB

        March 8, 2025 at 5:17 am

        Yet if you were on an airplane, a dicey proposition nowadays, and you tossed something straight up into the air, it would fall back down and land in your hand.

        How would flat earth address “the science” that claims to show the earth’s rotation? For example, this pendulum that supposedly proves the earth’s rotation.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault_pendulum

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        • Marcus

          March 8, 2025 at 6:48 pm

          RB,

          “How would flat earth address “the science” that claims to show the earth’s rotation? For example, this pendulum that supposedly proves the earth’s rotation?”

          With basic common sense. For the Foucault Pendulum to be valid it must be set off on the correct path swinging continuously, without deviation from that path, on a North-South direction.

          Considering that it would also be attached to the supports on the ground, it would rotate with the supports. So, if the mechanism, beneath it, containing the metal spheres were also fixed in place to the supports then the pendulum should continuously swing between them, fixed in the same spot, therefore no balls would ever be knocked off (as they would be moving at exactly the same rotation as the pendulum).

          The fact that balls are being knocked off proves that the mechanism, underneath the pendulum, is in fact the same mechanism one would find inside a clock/watch. Instead of the hour hand moving clockwise, the numbers (balls) are moving anti clockwise, while the hour hand (pendulum) remains fixed.

          Now considering that the first mechanical watch created was The Melanchthon Watch, dating back to 1530’s and the Foucault Pendulum some 321 years later, then it’s pretty obvious that The Foucault Pendulum is nothing more than a mechanical watch, being fobbed off to an ignorant public as something measuring the earth’s imaginary, rotation.

          The Foucault pendulum (hands) remains fixed, while the base (balls) rotates anti clockwise, instead of on a normal clock/watch where the base (balls) remains fixed and the pendulum (hands) rotates clockwise.

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          • Pointer

            March 9, 2025 at 1:17 am

            All Foucault’s Pendulums installed in museums are manufactured by only one company, Academy Pendulums…
            https://academypendulums.com/

            On the company’s website, under “For Architects: Design Specifications” you’ll find this document…
            https://academypendulums.com/pdf/Mark2arc_spec.pdf

            This document states that all their pendulums have magnetic sensors that keep the pendulum in motion, and it has an electronic motor to get the pendulum in motion in the first place.

            It’s a hoax. A circus trick.

            Watch this video…
            https://www.bitchute.com/video/DQP0aRGwjK9J

        • Pointer

          March 9, 2025 at 2:21 am

          RB said “Yet if you were on an airplane, a dicey proposition nowadays, and you tossed something straight up into the air, it would fall back down and land in your hand.”

          But that only works if you are inside the plane. If you were standing on the plane’s wing and tried that, whatever you tossed in the air would fly away behind you.

          Just like the steam from a locomotive always trails behind the train in the opposite direction, but smoke coming out of chimneys doesn’t do that.

          If you are inside a house, isolated from the atmosphere, or outside in the atmosphere, tossing a ball up and catching it is the same, but shouldn’t be.

          How could the atmosphere be dragged in perfect sync with the moving earth? Gravity supposedly decreases the further away you get from the surface, so the higher atmosphere would be less affected by it and would lag behind as earth rotated, but we don’t see any evidence of that.

          If that is true, then clouds and wind could not move in completely opposite directions at the same time.

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  20. Marcus

    February 28, 2025 at 6:59 am

    Very good article.
    I woke up to flat earth over 5 years ago and I was blown away when the penny dropped. It’s just common sense really. More so, everything to do with space and science is all heavily connected to ‘666’. I’ve come to realise that the Beast system IS the laws of man – traditions of the Elders. It is the recreation of Nimrod and his desire to be a God and rule over all mankind.

    33 Examples of “666” In Modern Science And Globe Model

    What really blew my mind was discovering ‘sky ice’. For those who’ve never heard of it, it’s a pure blue ice that has been found in Antarctica. It melts into oxygen, not a liquid, a gas. It can’t be taken out of Antarctica, regardless what container is used as it instantly melts. I the started delving into it and came to the conclusion that it’s from the firmament. What do I mean?

    The sun heats up the firmament and releases oxygen, which is the heaviest of the air’s gases. This then falls to earth and that’s where the oxygen comes from, not the plants and the trees. They’re the convenient coverup. After all, how on earth do all those animals survive in the desert and the nomadic tribesmen, when there’s no vegetation? They’ve even shown this in a movie.

    Remember the film Total Recall? At the end they activate the hidden alien machines, massive structures that heat up white hot and plunge them into the icy ground which generates oxygen and frees the people, currently being restricted to oxygen from the corrupt, earth government.

    Genesis 1:7-9:

    7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

    8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

    9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

    Did Mike Degruy discover the firmament, at the bottom of the Ocean, while doing a documentary for The Blue Planet? A few days after the program was aired, the helicopter he was traveling in exploded.

    And remember the Challenger shuttle that exploded, killing all the crew in 1986?

    They’ve never, ever left earth. They can’t. We live in a bubble, outside of us water and how much no one has a clue, whatsoever. They can only dig 8 miles deep and yet not only do they know what’s at the earth’s core 1,800 miles down, but they sent devices into space to take images and collect data:

    “Voyager 1’s cameras were deactivated on February 14, 1990, after it took the “family portrait” of the Solar System, which includes the famous “Pale Blue Dot” image of Earth. At that time, Voyager 1 was approximately 6 billion kilometers (37 AU) from the Sun.

    As of February 28, 2025, Voyager 1 is the most distant human-made object from Earth, located at a distance of about 167.34 AU (25.0 billion km; 15.6 billion mi) from Earth.
    The probe continues to send data back to Earth, although it experienced a communication issue that was resolved in April 2024, allowing it to resume sending readable engineering data.”

    Yes, people believe all this nonsense, all CGI, from a computer in NASA.

    The problem with people is they’re gullible and incapable of critical thinking.

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    • CFT

      March 1, 2025 at 2:25 am

      Marcus wrote, “What really blew my mind was discovering ‘sky ice’. For those who’ve never heard of it, it’s a pure blue ice that has been found in Antarctica….”

      Here’s a video of an interview with a guy who actually went to Antarctica and witnessed the “sky ice” phenomenon.
      https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/162/971/953/playable/59072d3f7613702f.mp4

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      • Marcus

        March 1, 2025 at 11:38 am

        CFT,

        Thank you for the video. I watched that video a while back, when an acquaintance, I was having a conversation with about flat earth, mentioned sky ice. After describing it, I was fascinated and immediately did some research and found the video linked.

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  21. Boz

    February 28, 2025 at 1:21 am

    This is a textbook example of how the “Streisand Effect” works.

    Trudeau warns the public flat earth is scary and dangerous, so millions of people, out of curiosity, look into flat earth and discover it’s not so stupid after all.

    “The Streisand effect is an unintended consequence of attempts to hide, remove, or censor information, where the effort instead increases public awareness of the information.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

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    • RB

      March 8, 2025 at 5:08 am

      I can’t help but wonder if Trudeau and his ilk are trying to use the Streisand Effect against their opponents with regard to flat earth.

      Just as a proof of concept, I mentioned some of the scientist/astronomers’ quotes from this article to some of the more “conspiratorial” people in my social circles and found that they were more defensive about Flat Earth than they were about the Hollowcost.

      If Trudeau warning against Flat Earth can get his detractors to look into Flat Earth and they let it be known then, irrespective of the truth of FE, he and his ilk will get a boost as “normies” will consider their opponents kooks and tune them out.

      Perhaps Trudeau is like Br’er Rabbit and Flat Earth is his briar patch?

      Reply
  22. Gummer

    February 27, 2025 at 10:01 pm

    Great article. A year of researching biblical cosmology/flat earth has led me to the conclusion that once again, what we have believed our whole lives is yet another lie from the deceiver.

    So glad you’re posting again. Please keep ‘em coming.

    Reply
  23. West

    February 27, 2025 at 9:01 am

    Interesting Article — thank you.

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