(Jewish Telegraphic Agency) In 1931 — one year prior to Adolf Hitler’s rise to power as leader — a high court in Nuremberg ruled that the Jewish “holy” book — The Talmud — does, in fact, encourage Jews to murder “gentiles” — independent of the accusation of the factual basis of evidence for Jews also engaging in ritual blood sacrifice of “gentile” children:
“Deputy Karl Holz, the editor of a Hitlerist paper — “Der Sturmer” which appears in Nuremberg in Bavaria — has been acquitted by the Nuremberg law court on a charge of libel brought against him by Dr. Wassermann, a local Jewish medical. man, for publishing an article in his paper in which Dr. Wassermann was accused of letting a non-Jewess bleed to death because the Talmud and the Shulchan Aruch impose upon Jews the duty of killing Christians whenever the opportunity offers, and calling upon the Christian population for that reason never to go to Jewish doctors.
The court refused to hear Rabbi Dr. Max Eschelbacher (son of the famous Jewish scholar, the late Rabbi Joseph Eschelbacher who wrote “Judaism and Christianity”, an outstanding work of Jewish apologetics, and of Ernestine Eschelbacher, the “Eishith Chayil” of German Jewry, who died last July), who was called by the prosecutor as an authority on the Talmud, ruling that since he is a member of the Central Union of German Citizens of Jewish Faith he is partisan and his evidence would be biased.
While ruling out the Rabbi, the court agreed, however, to hear two antisemitic experts, Dr. Erich Bischoff and Professor Goltsberger, who were called by the Defence as authorities on the Talmud, and they declared that the teachings of the Talmud and the Shulchan Aruch are in complete contradiction to morality and that in addition to these written laws the Jews obey also an unwritten secret code which pledges them to practise the most beastly abominations against non-Jews.
Dr. Bischoff even went to the extent of swearing that there is a commandment which binds Jews to the practice of human sacrifice.
Deputy Holz was the central figure in the Daube and the Manau ritual murder agitations in Bavaria. It was his paper, “Der Sturmer,” which took up the cry in 1928 when the student Daube was found dead that he had been killed for ritual purposes by a Jewish fellow-student named Haussman, and although Haussman was found not guilty and acquitted, he kept up the cry of ritual murder, repeating it in connection with the Daube affair as recently as a few months ago.”
[CFT Note: The college sophomore Helmut Daube was butchered on the night of the 22nd-23rd of March, 1928. In the morning, the blood-drained corpse lay in front of his parents home. (cf. ‘Der Sturmer’)]
“In the same way when the dead body of a Christian child was found at Manau, in Bavaria, he again started a cry of ritual murder, and the charge was even raised in the Bavarian Parliament by the Hitlerist Deputies.”
[CFT Note: The boy Karl Kessler was found butchered and bloodless on March 17th, 1929, in Manau several days before Passover. (cf. ‘Der Sturmer’)]
“The Hitlerists brought it up also in the Prussian Parliament where Deputy [Robert] Ley, a Hitlerist Deputy, said that Pope Sixtus IV. had declared that Jews kill Christian boys for ritual purposes [see Simon of Trent] — and that at the present time there are sects of Hassidim which use Christian blood in their ritual.
The accusation brought some of the Catholic Deputies to their feet in protest against the belief that ritual murder is upheld by the Catholic Church.
In Saxony, a Hitlerist Deputy named [Hans] Schemm, who is the editor of a paper called the “Weckruf”, was sent to prison for 30 days for publishing the Daube ritual murder story in his paper — and an artist named Braeutigam, who made a drawing printed in the same issue, showing a number of Jews in the act of committing ritual murder, with the aid of a copy of the Talmud, was given a similar sentence.
“We feel ashamed that Jews still have to defend themselves at this late day against the ritual murder lie,” a conference of the Bavarian Rabbis declared in a statement issued in connection with the Manau and Daube ritual murder agitations.
“We declare solemnly,” the Rabbis statement proceeded, “that the sources of Jewish teaching are innocent of blood. There is no Jewish sect whatever which practices ritual murder. We are prepared to prove this statement in any court of law.”
The Central Union of German Citizens of the Jewish Faith also issued a statement protesting against the ritual murder lie.
The German law courts have on previous occasions handed down similar verdicts, practically upholding the accusations of ritual murder and of other vile practices made against the Jews, by acquitting the agitators who were being proceeded against for libel.
“The ritual murder accusation is not an insult to the Jews, but a historical fact, since many churches in Germany, Austria and other countries are dedicated to Christian saints who were martyred for ritual purposes by the enemies of the Christian faith,” the West Berlin District Court found last May in acquitting Deputy Joseph Goebbels, the Hitlerist leader in Berlin, on a charge of insulting the Jews by publishing an article in the “Angriff”, of which he is editor, where he said that Jews commit ritual murder.
It had not been established, the court said, that the article was an insult to the Jewish religion, since it spoke only of fanatical adherents of the Jewish religion, and not of all who practice Judaism.
No punishment for accusing Jews of committing ritual murder was also the decision of the German Supreme Court, the Leipzig Reichsgericht, in February 1930, when it quashed the verdict of guilty brought in by the Cologne District Court against the editor of the local Hitlerist paper, the “Westdeutscher Beobachter”, Josef Grohé, whom it had fined 300 Marks for writing in his paper that the Jews in obedience to the Talmud practice ritual murder, fraud and perjury, and drink Christian blood in order to become reconciled to the Jewish God.
The Reichsgericht found that Grohé could not be convicted, because he did not know that the ritual murder allegation was designed to rouse enmity against a certain section of the population.
Dr. Theodor Wolf, the famous editor of the “Berliner Tageblatt,” drew attention recently to the tendency of the German courts, including the Supreme Court, to acquit antisemites, complaining that the German courts have been dangerously infected by Hitlerism, and have been encouraged by the growth of Hitlerist strength to allow their dogmatic antisemitism to overrule the principles of abstract justice, introducing definite anti-Jewish bias in their judgments.
The “Juedische Rundschau” also complained recently that it is not surprising that the Jews in Germany are exposed so much to insult and physical attack, when it is remembered that the Hitlerist papers have been for years inciting the lowest instincts of the mob against the Jews, and the law courts take no action against the agitators.
It is constantly happening nowadays, it wrote, that not only the lower courts, but the very highest treat the Hitlerist vandals with the utmost mildness.
This laxity in the face of the insults heaped up against Judaism, Jewry and the Jewish Community, and the refusal to concede the right to the Jews to bring actions against those who libel them and incite the people, has resulted in convincing Hitlerist circles that outrages against Jews may be undertaken with much less risk than against other people.
So we have Jews constantly attacked, molested in the streets, Jewish places of worship and cemeteries desecrated, a boycott preached against Jewish businessmen and all that is connected with Jews and Judaism vilified and all with no redress.
“We must not shut our eyes to the fact,” it said, “that Hitlerist ideology has spread in Germany to an extent that would have seemed incredible a few years ago. Even parties and authorities who are not anti-Jewish find themselves obliged to take account of the anti-Jewish mob feeling, which is spreading among all circles of the people.
Without any discriminatory laws against Jews, we Jews are to-day treated in actual practice in Germany as second-class citizens.
No one dares to appoint Jews as officials. People are afraid to give positions to Jewish scholars of the highest qualifications and attainments.
People are afraid to become suspect of being protectors of the Jews. Things have gone so far that people are afraid to be just to Jews.”
There are two separate issues here that the Jews are deceptively conflating — whether or not their Talmud explicitly incites and condones Jewish murder of gentiles — and whether or not ritual murder is, in fact, practiced by some “fantatical” Jews outside the knowledge of mainstream Jewry.
The court correctly ruled that it would not allow the “partisan” testimony of talmudic “expert” — a certain Rabbi Dr. Max Eschelbacher — the Jews always have a team of rabbis ready as “fixers” to testify whenever their Talmud arises as evidence in a trial
The job of these rabbincal “fixers” is to confuse the goyim — most commonly by citing an expurgated version of the Talmud with the “offensive” passages removed — such as the “Jerusalem Talmud” — while pretending that the “Babylonian Talmud” doesn’t exist — or it’s read by only “fanatical” Jews.
Any unbiased observer can find passages in the unedited version of the Talmud that clearly encourage — and even command — Jews to harm, cheat, and murder “gentiles”, such as:
“To communicate anything to a goyim about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.” (Libbre David 37)
“If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Whoever will violate this order shall be put to death.” (Libbre David 37)
“Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form.” (Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855)
“Do not save goyim in danger of death.” (Hilkkoth Akum XI)
“The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts.” (Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b)
“If a Jew murders a goyim, there will be no death penalty.” (Sanhedrin 57a)
“A goy (gentile) who pries into the Law (Talmud) is guilty of death.” (Sanhedrin 59a)
“Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice.” (Zohar, Shemoth)
“Even the best of the gentiles should be killed.” (Abodah Zara 26b)
“If a goyim kills a goyim or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goyim, he is NOT responsible.” (Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5)
“It will be difficult to remove the Gentiles from their position without inflicting much suffering . . . when in the days of messiah the Jews are destined to eat their fill.” (Sanhedrin 98b)
The Jewish people are “the Messiah.” (Talmud Ilia)
“Show no mercy to the goyim.” (Hikkoth Akum X1)
“One should and must make false oath, when the goyim ask if our books contain anything against them. Then we are bound to state on oath that there is nothing like that.” (Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia, 17)
If confronted with any of these damning and incriminating passages, a talmudic apologist will simply shrug — and casually claim that they are merely the “opinions” of one rabbi who doesn’t represent “all Jews” — as if all Jews can ever agree on anything to do with the Talmud — or what to order on a Chinese menu.
We see this slippery Jewish tactic with someone like so-called “conservative” Jew — Ben Shapiro — who claims that the vast majority of Jews who support abortion are not “real” Jews — even though there is ample support from the Talmud to justify abortion, especially among the “gentiles”.
This self-serving double-standard is best illustrated in how the staunch abortion “rights” advocate — the Jewish U.S. Senator Chuck Schumer — also supports an anti-abortion group in Israel.
And when it comes to the accusation of Jews engaging in ritual blood murder of gentiles — especially our children — Jews will quickly claim that they personally know of no such Jews that engage in this satanic ritual.
But as the German court stipulated, there is a “fanatical” sect of Jews who perform ritual blood murder — and most Jews know nothing about it — and this is born out by the facts.
For example, the former Chief Rabbi Neofito of Moldova published a sensational book in the Moldavian language in 1843 about the secret Jewish blood mysteries.
In 1883 it was translated into Italian under the title ‘Il sangue cristiano nei riti ebraici della moderna Sinagoga,’ causing the Jews to become very nervous the world over.
On page 19 of this work the Jew Teofito confesses how he was initiated into the knowledge of ritual murder, and how the Jews for thousands of years have concealed it from the gentile world. Teofito writes:
“This secret of the blood is not known to all the Jews, but only to the Chakam (doctors) or the rabbis and the scholars, who therefore carry the title ‘Conservators of the mystery of the blood’.
They pass it on by word of mouth to the Jewish fathers. They in turn reveal it to their sons who regard this as a great honor. At the same time they make terrible threats of punishment if one of them betrays this secret.
The same is true of The Talmud — very few Jews have ever read it or know what’s in it — but the talmudic mindset trickles down to all Jews — “religious” or not.
For example, all Jews know that any Jew who betrays their fellow Jews — no matter how criminal — could be punished as a “moser” — many of whom have been killed by their fellow Jews.
Over the centuries, the Catholic Church has been inconsistent about its policies toward the Talmud — and toward the accusations of ritual murder.
On the one hand, many times the Church ordered the Talmud to be burned — most famously at the Cathedral of Notre Dame in Paris in 1242 AD.
Then 30 years later, Pope Gregory X gaslighted all Christians when he issued a formal prohibition against Christians accusing Jews of ritual murder — by claiming that Jews would never commit these heinous crimes because the Bible forbids them from drinking blood.
So-called “converted” Jews swore to Pope Gregory that Jews do not engage in ritual blood sacrifice — proving nothing except that most Jews are not privy to the secrets of ritual murder — and that even “converted” Jews cannot be trusted to not lie to protect their fellow Jews.
It was a Jew who revealed the scurrilous content of the Talmud to Martin Luther — who was so horrified by what he read that he was compelled to write On The Jews and Their Lies — a warning to all Christians that the Jews literally want them dead:
“If they had the power to do to us what we are able to do to them, not one of us would live for an hour. But since they lack the power to do this publicly, they remain our daily murderers and bloodthirsty foes in their hearts.”
And when the Jews finally had the power to murder whomever they pleased with impunity during the Red Terror, tens of millions of Christians saw first-hand just how “bloodthirsty” the Jews could be.
During World War II, captured Jews admitted to the Latvian SS commandos that not only did the Judeo-Bolsheviks want to completely wipe out all European Christians, they also engaged in ritual blood sacrifice of Christian children — and these atheist Bolsheviks were not so-called “religious” Jews — or some sort of “fanatical” secret sect.
Adolf Hitler and the National Socialists tried to warn the West of the murderous judeo-Soviet “paradise” that awaited them if the Jews and their minions were not utterly defeated and banished from our Christian nations.
The high-ranking German politician, Robert Ley, issued a warning of what would happen if Germany lost the war:
“In case Judah defeats us, where there are cities, towns and cultures flourishing, there would be nothing left. It is their goal — [Hitler] has said it thousands of times — and we have no reason to doubt it. No, Judah wants to have his Purim….now these sadistic people, want to eradicate Germany.”
This is an ongoing spiritual battle against a talmudic evil that the German court agreed was not only true — but was an imminent threat to all of us:
“I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Almighty Creator. By fighting the Jews, I am doing the Lord’s work.”
—Adolf Hitler
Fraud
It is forbidden to defraud a Jew by selling or buying at an unreasonable price. However, “Fraud does not apply to Gentiles, for it is written ‘Do no defraud each man his brother’ [the Halakhah interprets all such idioms as referring exclusively to one’s fellow Jew.]
Theft and Robbery
Robbery of a Gentile by a Jew is not forbidden outright, but only under certain circumstances such as “when the Gentiles are not under our rule,” but is permitted “when they are under our rule.” Rabbinical authorities differ among themselves as to the precise details of the circumstances under which a Jew may rob a Gentile, but the whole debate is concerned only with the relative power of Jews and Gentiles rather than with universal considerations of justice and humanity.
Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Two Thousand Years (London: Pluto Press, 1994), 89-90, 117 n49.
Who Killed Jesus?
According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the talmudic account the Romans are not even mentioned.
The more popular accounts — which were nevertheless taken quite seriously — such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very name “Jesus” was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable, and this popular tradition still persists. The Gospels are equally detested, and they are not allowed to be quoted (let alone taught) even in modern Israeli Jewish schools.
Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Two Thousand Years (London: Pluto Press, 1994), 97-98.
In 1888 the Minerva Press published a striking account which was never refuted about the findings of an investigating committee called together in 1240 by St. Louis the King of France. The King wanted to know why the Jews were so hated in France. He convened a Royal Court over which he presided. Talmud was
presented and expounded to the court by a Christianised Jew who spoke Hebrew well. To test the authenticity of the Talmudic text the court invited Jecbiel the Rabbi of Paris, together with Rabbis Juda
Samuel and Jacob, the latter being an eminent orator well known in both France and Spain. The fair-minded king did his utmost to ensure that the rabbis should have every chance to defend Talmud as well as
to confirm the genuineness of the Talmudic text. Despite all this, the court was forced to conclude that the Talmudic laws are contrary and even repugnant to the social order, not only of all Christian, but even
of all non Jewish communities. As a result of enquiries, the court discovered that Talmud not only repeatedly insults the Virgin Mary but casts doubts that Christ was born from a Virgin, and even states
that He was the child of a soldier named Pandara and a woman of the streets. The Christians were appalled when these translations of Talmud were pronounced to be authentic by the invited rabbis.
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https://christiansfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/The-World-Conquerors-The-Real-War-Criminals.pdf
Am I correct in believing there are “TWO” versions of the Talmud?
The text of hatred towards non-Jews is deliberately used from one version of the Talmud yet the *real* Talmud speaks of no hatred and is the main book used by the Jews.
I am only making these comments based on Alex Thomson from the UKColumn who I am very suspicious about, he is very very educated, speaks several languages and within the public eye, he is a true advocate for being on the right side of history YET the statement recently made by himself has me quite baffled.
I am thinking (Is he protecting the Jew and their Talmud) by ensuring the public that we’ve all been had because the *real* Talmud is not in the public eye and doesn’t mention Christ boiling in human excrement.
bill jones,
Yes, there are at least two editions of the Talmud — the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud.
As our article above points out, whenever someone points out the scandalous passages in the Talmud about Jesus Christ or child rape, or killing gentiles, the “experts” will point to the Jerusalem Talmud, which has been heavily redacted of all offensive passages that are, indeed, found in the Babylonian Talmud.
The Talmud explains, “A Jew should and must make a false oath when the goyim asks if our books contain anything against them.” (Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17)
And, “If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Whoever will violate this order shall be put to death.” (Libbre David 37)
All rabbis study the Babylonian Talmud, not the edited version.
Also keep in mind that Jews often refer to other books as “the Talmud”, such as the Zohar and the Kabbalah, depending on whom they are talking to.
And the other trick they play on the “gentiles” is that when they say they hold “the Torah” sacred, they are, more often than not, referring to the Babylonian Talmud. The Talmud is their “torah”.
Jews have reason to fear the gentiles ever knowing what’s in the Talmud — they have been killed and run out of countries in the past when its true contents have been exposed. Martin Luther was so outraged after reading the Talmud that he thought talmudic Jews should be killed because of the threat they posed to Christians.
That’s why the Talmud says, “To communicate anything to a goyim about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.” (Libbre David 37)
Yes! We’re one to search for pdf downloads of the talmud (A) via a Google search, & (B) via a less compromised and duplicitous medium, such as Yandex, we find that the former will singularly vomit up the highly edited version for the poor, stupid goyim to gawk at, some only around 3,000 pages long, extending to the occasional offering of a maybe 9,000 (odds) version, but- the “REAL deal”, secretly taught in the yeshiva colleges, with all the morally repugnant, paedophilic, and murderous, supremacist injunctions is at LEAST 13,000 pages long. There are even sites I’ve seen showing older printings where you can clearly SEE that whole sentences and verses have been crudely expunged from the text. ALL the REAL nasty, abhorrent, disgusting and inhuman stuff, about molesting children, the murder of a Christian being THE most pleasing sacrifice to God, the ceaseless injunctions to rob, cheat, deceive and steal from us, to rape and to murder us, the vile filth it speed about Jesus Christ (etc, etc….)? It’s all IN there! Doubt it NOT! Refer also to the documentary of Pastor Ted Pike- “The Other Israel”, for a more acute & explicit analysis of the subject.
Hello CFT:
Thanks for adding some clarification.
You wrote, “As far as our essays on Edom are concerned, we simply tried to show that from evidence strictly in the Old Testament, it does not appear that there is any evidence that the original Edomites were race mixed, nor did they inter-breed with Israelites.”
In one of your essays you acknowledge the passage where Esau is stated to have taken Hittites as brides. Are you therefore suggesting that the Hittites where originally pure Adamites?
Please refer to picture on your article here. The picture is towards the end of the piece.
https://christiansfortruth.com/who-is-esau-edom-the-origin-of-todays-jews/
The picture has a drawing of an ‘ancient Hittite, a modern jew, and a Canaanite head alongside one another, demonstrating the sloping forehead commonly found on the Rothschild’s and Kissenger’s of this world. Is this picture therefore incorrect, and the ancient Hittites (that Esau married into) don’t have a sloping forehead?
I’ve looked at some of the artwork of the Hittites, and some does show a sloping forehead, but others do not. Many do show a nose that is lower at the tip than the base (a jew facial trait).
Is there such a thing as a ‘pure’ Hittite (that Esau married), that doesn’t belong to this sloping forehead group of people? If so, why do you believe this to be so?
Regarding Canaan, as far as I’m aware he was a bastard (mamzer) if Strong’s concordance is used. A Mamzer can be (1) a mixed-race being, or (2) a child produced by parent-child pro-creation (incest). As the same word is used for both, is it not safe to assume that they both (incest or mixing of race) produce some sort of genetic corruption?
If Esau is therefore mixed with Canaan to produce the Edomite tribes, then surely it logically follows that such walking bipeds are a form of genetic corruption, if not through race mixing (again, what is a Hittite?) then they are from being the genealogy of a mamzer through incest (similar to a Moabite).
I’m neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you btw, I’m just trying to figure things out, and do thank your team for all the efforts you put into this site to provide your readership with clarification on matters.
I’m still thinking that Edomites are a corruption (bunch on mamzers), either by the Hittites being a sloping forehead ‘beast’, or by the interbreeding with Canaanite mamzers.
Yahweh bless
Gareth
Good question about the Hittites…..they are mentioned in Genesis 15, probably as descendants of the original Genesis 10 nations.
However, we have seen evidence that there were more than one people called “Hittites” which has led to some confusion. The other Hittites may be the non-Adamics that you refer to.
But also keep in mind that many of those ancient stone carvings, the portraits, are highly stylized. You’ll even see Egyptian and Greek engravings showing strange shaped heads. Not sure how much we can rely on the accuracy of those relics. They are art, not photographs.
Hi CFT:
I can see your point about the art often being stylized. Not sure why they would want to portray themselves as having a sloping forehead though, and as we do have people today (e.g. Rothschild) having a sloping forehead it COULD be a true depiction of any ancient tribe.
Also, even if they did call themselves Hittites, such a tribe may not be the same people that were mentioned as marrying Esau. As we know, identity theft occurs today, so no reason to think it hasn’t occurred in history.
Yahweh bless.
Gareth
We would say this — that the Hittites most certainly became mixed over time, as we are dealing with well over 1,500 years from the time of the Genesis 10 nations and the later empires. It’s simply hard to tell by internal evidence in the OT when that began to happen.
——-Percival——-
“…(A)It’s hard to believe that the Israelites would have allowed non-Adamic peoples to live so closely among them….(B)white people want to live as far away from diversity as possible…..”
So glad you said this Percival! This is the most important part of this Discussion for me (A).
I think we all would agree that the woman Phinehas speared, was a non-white/mixed race woman.
Anyone have any objections to that? There is always the exception to the rule.
So, we are talking about (A) here. The adage — “…there is nothing new under the sun…” is applicable.
Percival then said — “…. White people want to live as far away from diversity as possible…”
I might add — but not too far that some of our men could exploit them for labor or sex. Looking back at the beginnings of the United States, the ONLY reason we have yellows today is because greedy business men brought them in for labor. The blacks as well.
My problem, going back to Old Testament times, is that I have a hard time believing that IF there were non-whites nearby, they surely would NOT have been the negroid. I want to think that the obvious non-white tribes would have been the yellows. According to Haberman (Tracing our Ancestors), he places the Garden in Western Asia. It would make sense that the first non-whites our People encountered, would have been the yellows.
But, something I wanted to ask — I heard someone make the suggestion that there may have been white looking peoples in the pre-adamic Creation. Thoughts? Sure, it’s just speculation.
I used this example in a comment the other day —- in the first Planet of the Apes movie with Charlton Heston, the advanced Astronauts (minus the token negro) found White peoples that were, well ….. on the less advanced scale.
Could God have created a white looking people NOT in His image.
I have a hard time believing our Peoples took to non-white peoples in the beginning(A). They didn’t have the brainwashing and the programming we do today.
It seems we clearly don’t want to live near them — but it also seems many of us don’t mind tolerating them as well. Not me personally. I don’t need mexican or korean food trucks. I remember my mother — using the excuse of “helping” the needy, brought in a mexican cleaning woman. Somedays, I would take her home and noticed she was living in a garage with about 15 other mexicans. My mom was clearly bitten by the “humanist/universalism” bug that was going around “Christendom” in the 80’s.
Just an interesting observation — I watched the other day a documentary of the Olympic Games in 1964 in Tokyo Japan. It was an amazing observation of Segregated Races(Kinds).
It truly supports the working theory of Madison Grant and Lothrop Stoddard that at one point in History — 4 Distinct Kinds of peoples existed — White, yellow, black and red.
Is not 1964 around the time the Jews got their HOOKS in so to speak and passed Immigration reform for the USA? And I would suspect other Western Nations as well.
The USA was all White with a few blacks. Zero mexicans. Zero yellows. No indians.
Even the Soviet Union was predominately White. Britain had a few indian looking peoples.
But the NON-Western Nations were all 100% homogenous. Quite the eye opener. Mexico had a couple white looking guys, but that is not surprising.
Great Conversation to all. Thanks for your civility and demeanor. We can be proud that when others find this thread, they won’t be able to use the excuse of “hatred”. We are just civilized people talking, seeking peace among one another.
Cheers.
West….“I heard someone make the suggestion that there may have been white looking peoples in the pre-adamic Creation. Thoughts?”
As a matter of fact, I do believe there were white pre-adamic peoples. I’ve seen enough evidence of much older white archeological discoveries – older than 10,000 years to make me think that….
But they must have been different somehow. No written language, no advanced civilizations, but definitely proto-white.
The people from Adam were different. Civilization appeared almost immediately, along with written language. A spirit they didn’t have before.
What happened to them? Some died out, others may have inter-bred with Adamics. Not sure. But I think they looked like us, almost physically indistinguishable.
Percival —
Thank you. I agree.
“Kennewick Man” would fit your description. I think they dated him circa 10,000 BC.
Very interesting back story as to how the Govt quickly covered up that story. They gave the remains to the Indian Tribe of that area and ….. Case Closed.
The Denisovans discovery in a cave in Siberia may be another example of pre-adamic white people, and DNA analysis showed that these people were not Neanderthals, though Neanderthal remains were also found there, including remains of modern humans.
https://www.science.org/content/article/siberian-cave-was-home-generations-mysterious-ancient-humans
there were some mediterean white phenotype among pre indo europeannneolithic Iran farmers . later you may have had some sparodic brown eyes white phenotype through slavery military, trade expedition at bronze age type and later .
you need to learn archeogenitc . see the worknof Andrei dna he post archeologic phenotype every day you will find some samples relative to your search
Damage control set to full…..tunnel at Chabad Headquarters shut down:
https://collive.com/770-bochurim-breach-wall-to-prevent-tunnel-closure/
Hi Elijah,
The reply button had run its course, so needed to reply here instead (CFT often move it to the correct position).
Firstly you wrote, “but I commend you for your respect in this conversation.”
I’ve gotten much better LOL. As I’ve indicated here before, it’s only around 12 months since I discovered Israelite Identity literature, and I know that at the start of it I was a going through a type of ‘WTF’ and was a wee (just a little) bit angry 🙂
It’s why I prefer the commenters here at CFT to he honest. At other sites they call you silly names such as ‘retard’ etc if you do agree with the dogma they profess to be the absolute truth. This is no way of making any progress in scriptural matters.
Back to genesis chapter three, brother. As you state, verse 15 does indicate that the serpent (which obviously means the devil/satan/heylal or whatever other name that vile creature is using; also referred to as ‘that old serpent’ and ‘the dragon’ in revelation 20:2) has a literal seedline that Yashua had/has enmity with.
Does this mean exclusively Yashua, or all of Eve’s seedline (known to us as Adamites)?
If it means just Yashua, then the enmity he had the most with was with Cain’s seedline, the scribes and the pharisees. Remember he accused them (their generation/genealogy) of murdering all righteous blood from Abel to Zechariah (John the Baptist’s Dad). It’s very clear and unambiguous that it was Cain that slayed Abel, so the Father-in-the-flesh (Yashua, who cannot lie) was identifying the scribes and pharisees as Cain’s offspring. If I have understood this wrong, please elaborate as I can see no other explanation for this? To me, it is clear that the scribes and pharisees (woe unto them) are from Cain.
If it is all of Eve’s seedline, then who has whitey had issues with, and has had to throw out of countries/lands for thousands of years? It isn’t the blacks, the Han (Chinese), nor the brown people. It’s the ‘jews’ (a hodge-podge of various Kenites that have a ‘mark’ (Gen 4:15) such as dodgy ears that point to 10 o’clock and 2 o’clock , Dracula hairlines, crooked noses where the tip is lower than the base etc.
So, regardless of whether the ‘enmity’ was exclusively between Yashua (Eve’s seed/zera), or all of Eve’s seed (Adamites in general), this ‘enmity’ does point towards Cain. Very clearly if you believe the statement to be exclusive to Yashua, more indirectly for the Adamites in general.
I realise and do appreciate there are many problems with ‘tree’. With it being in the same verse it is strange for it to be allegorical in one sense, then literal in the other. But ‘being strange’ cannot make me (personally) rule it out. The trees could be literal for part of the chapter and allegorical for the forbidden fruit tree. Please note the word ‘could’ in the last sentence.
I believe the Bible is written in such a way that children are able to read and understand much of it, whilst also being shielded from ‘adult’ matters. The Father is amazing, and can explain things to a little infant appropriately for their age/understanding.
Regarding the problem of Adam also ‘eating of the fruit’: This doesn’t mean that Adam must of become a filthy sodomite, brother. Look at the various depictions of that ‘old serpent’ throughout the ages and you will see an androgynous being, a being that can be both male and female. That ‘old serpent’ could have appeared as male to Eve, and female to Adam.
I haven’t read Weisman’s book (so much to read isn’t there?), but I did read Emery’s account here at CFT. Not to be disrespectful as I’m sure Emery is much more learned than I, but I found much of the argument invalid. Essentially (and please correct me if I’m wrong), Emery’s argument was based on the fact that Jews, and Jehovah’s witnesses etc believe in Eve being seduced sexually, and therefore it must be wrong as these are ‘enemies’ and therefore always wrong. If your enemy believes it to be daytime, does that automatically make it nightime? I think not, and Emery’s argument was rather weak (in my humble opinion).
To summarise:
1. Yashua clearly identifies the ‘scribes and pharisees’ as Cain’s offspring when he accuses that generation/genealogy of murdering Abel. If this is the ‘enmity’ spoken of in genesis 3:15, then Cain is the serpents offspring.
2. If Eve’s offspring is taken as a collective (the Adamites), then this again points towards the ‘jews’, as whitey has had little contact with the blacks, browns, and the Han compared to the jew.
3. Can allegorical trees be in the same chapter as literal ones? I don’t know, but I believe the Father has made the Holy Bible suitable to be read by young children, whilst still protecting their innocence.
4. Adam eating of the tree doesn’t make him a sodomite, as ‘that old serpent, the devil’ is a transgender freak of nature.
Thanks for the dialogue, friend. Like I indicated to West, I DO HAVE many more questions than answers.
Still not sure what happened to Japheth, is he exclusively in eastern Europe as a Slav? Are the Ashkenazi variety of jews a hybrid of Kenite, Japheth’s grandson Ashkenaz, and the Neanderthal? Was the flood local or everywhere? 🙂
I pray to the Father for discernment every day, may He ingratiate us all with Knowledge so we do not get destroyed.
Peace, brother, peace.
Hello Gareth,
I certainly agree that CFT is a great place for fellowship and learning. Believe me, I understand being angry with what’s going on. I used to be DSCI, so I understand where you are coming from.
Firstly I would like to say that the “old serpent” or “dragon” is not necessarily a reference to Genesis 3, I won’t say that it absolutely isn’t, however it could be referring to some other serpent that we are unaware of.
“If it means just Yashua, then the enmity he had the most with was with Cain’s seedline, the scribes and the pharisees. Remember he accused them (their generation/genealogy) of murdering all righteous blood from Abel to Zechariah (John the Baptist’s Dad). It’s very clear and unambiguous that it was Cain that slayed Abel, so the Father-in-the-flesh (Yashua, who cannot lie) was identifying the scribes and pharisees as Cain’s offspring.”
Brother, I do not think that there is evidence that Cain was the serpent’s offspring, or that Jesus is saying that they are here, Cain was Adamic, Genesis 4:1 is clear on that (it may be corrupted but I do not think that means that the verse implies he wasn’t Adam’s son). Regarding where Christ said they were responsible for the righteous blood, Abel—>Zacharias.
If we read Matthew 23:31 “Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.” Were the men who killed the prophets cainities/edomites as DSCI claim? According to Christ it was Israelites as we read in Matthew 23:37 ” O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!”
The prophets were only sent to pure Adamic Israelites, it is not referencing supposed edomite infiltrators, a good article that correlates to this is https://christiansfortruth.com/israelites-killed-christ-and-why-we-must-stop-denying-it-and-blaming-others/
Christ was identifying the pharisees/scribes as being unrighteous, he was showing that they are equally responsible for their crimes, just as Cain murdered Abel, and the murder of the prophets–I don’t see him saying that they are Cain’s offspring here.
As for the seed of the serpent, I don’t think it’s via Cain, it is possible that the serpent was some a snake like hominid that got cursed to be as the snakes we see today (this is conjecture I do not know for sure). It would also line up with all of the curses that apply to snakes today, as we are at enmity with them (the Scripture is not completely clear on this aspect).
As for the jews, they are turkik/khazar mongrels (mixed with other hominids). I think they act as they do because they are in part descendants of those Pure Judahites who rejected Christ and as a result, mixed their seed with beasts/hominids, the creation of the Talmud also explains their supremacist views and hatred of true White Adamites/Israelites.
As for the serpent, I just don’t see evidence in the Bible that it appeared as a female to Adam and a Female to eve. I think this is conjecture, this is why I take a much more simplistic view if it.
As for Emry I can see why his argument may seem weak, however I do think his interpretation that the tree of Knowledge was God’s law is spot on. Weisman’s book does explain it much better.
I do appreciate the dialogue, to be honest this is an issue we can have differences on because it does not really matter when it comes to salvation. I in a sense agree that there are two-seedlines that being What Adamites/Israelites and everyone else (beasts/hominids, which are not men).
I just do not agree with angels having relations with women or the serpent having relations with Eve.
God bless, and stick around there are plenty of good articles for edification.
Hi Elijah,
Thanks for the dialogue, very interesting to get alternative views on topics. For the record I wouldn’t describe myself as DSCI as such, more that I am still very unclear on many things, and have yet to draw conclusions to a variety of ‘sub topics’ in the Israelite Identity literature.
Mathew chapter twenty three is very rich, and requires much examination, so I do appreciate your viewpoints on it.
You wrote, “Genesis 4:1 is clear on that (it may be corrupted but I do not think that means that the verse implies he wasn’t Adam’s son)”. I therefore do not quite understand why Cain wasn’t listed in Adam’s lineage in Genesis chapter 5.
Genesis 5:3, “And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth”.
Why the emphasis on Seth being “in his own likeness, after his own image”? Is this simply due to the fact that it was Seth’s lineage that begat the Patriachs (Noah, Abram, etc), and ultimately Yashua? I honestly don’t know, but cannot rule out that Cain was more than just a murderer and a liar (and most like a blood adulterator).
I believe a major part of the rejection of Cain having a ‘suspect’ origin is from what you wrote towards the end of your piece, “I just do not agree with angels having relations with women or the serpent having relations with Eve.”
Obviously if you do not perceive the possibility of angel/man hybrids existing, then the Cain theory will always seem invalid/impossible. With that in mind, I must ask what your views are on the Book of Enoch? This is a book I read years before I discovered Israelite Identity literature. What does it mean when the Bible states,
“And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation” in Jude chapter one, verse six?
The current KJV Bible talks of giants, do you believe these to be simply ‘beasts of the field’? There are secular documentaries showing a variety of newspaper articles and other evidence pointing towards giants existing in the past (The Smithsonian Institute are believed to be behind the covering up of such stories). Are these angel/man/beast hybrids, or just simply Yahweh’s creation from Genesis chapter one verse 25, ‘the beasts’?
Back to Matthew chapter 23. Yashua did refer to the scribes as a genealogy of ‘vipers’. Are you therefore suggesting that the Israelites are a genealogy of vipers? Strong’s G2191 of ‘viper’ can mean a literal snake, or a cunning wicked man – either way, not good.
I ask this as Yashua used the word generation, and references other time periods, so cannot simply mean the word generation the same way as we, today, talk about generation X, the boomer’s etc. Yashua must have meant genealogy.
So again, is Yashua accusing ALL Israelites of being ‘vipers’? Surely not, brother, surely not. Abram, for example, was Yahweh’s ‘friend’ (which is absolutely amazing to be called Yahweh’s friend, right?)
I suppose you, I, and everyone involved in Israelite Identity (I prefer the term Israelite Identity, to Christian Identity btw) need to assess whether JUST Israelites where in Judea at the time of Yashua (Jesus, the Christ). This IS a fundamental question, brother.
I believe there were others present. Obadiah show that as the Kingdom of Judah was taken into captivity, the surrounding walking bipeds (including Edom) simply walked into that land. The ancient House of Judah would have created a very good environment (think functional well, arable lands etc), which the surrounding useless walking bipeds would have coveted, and took when they had the opportunity. Again, I refer you to the Book of Obadiah, in particular verses 10-14.
Please read Obadiah, then ask yourself, “Was only Israel in Jerusalem in the time of Christ”? The answer to this question, will probably just raise more 🙂
Chat soon, brother, chat soon.
Hello Gareth,
I suppose I cannot agree that angels copulate because the scripture says they can’t in Matthew 22:30 we read “For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.”
This is also witnessed by Mark 12:25. Marriage is sexual relations and angels cannot do this, why would we presume fallen angels can?
There is no evidence in the Bible that the Son’s of God is Genesis 6 reference angels. Sons of God here references Men, Adamic Men. Look at Romans 8:14, “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.”
As for the giants the Bible is not clear on their origin, but because God is the creator he likely created them as a separate hominid group (like the neanderthal and cro-magnon). As for Cain not being mentioned in the genealogy, we could ask the same of Ishmael or of Esau, or of King David’s brothers.
It is because they were not of the elect line (although still Israelites and Adamites).
As for Matthew 23 when addressing the Pharisees as vipers I understand that “generation” refers to Race, or offspring. But we must keep in mind the context, Christ is calling them out because of their evil deeds. We know that our geneology means nothing without Yahweh/Jesus Christ. This is why he condemned them, as they were concealing the truth. Matthew 23 “28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
“29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.”
He is not accusing all Israelites here, he is simply making the point of the hypocrisy of the Pharisees and calls for them to repent 39 “For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.”
The oldest Book of Enoch (Ethiopic) is dated maximum 300BC, nowhere near the original time of the biblical Enoch. Likely having much Babylonian and pagan influence.
I will reread Obadiah, but I highly recommend this article by CFT which clarifies its meaning, the destruction of the edomites has already passed.https://christiansfortruth.com/edom-in-the-old-and-new-testaments/
I do agree that Israelite Identity or Covenant theology is a better label, CI has to many infiltrators and infighting. It’s good to hear you don’t associate with DSCI, certain people in it (not all) act horrible to anyone who merely disagrees with their doctrines.
Good to talk with you brother and God bless.
Hi Elijah,
Thanks for the dialogue, I honestly appreciate it. Helps to ‘iron out’ some of my own thoughts.
You wrote, “I highly recommend this article by CFT which clarifies its meaning, the destruction of the edomites has already passed.https://christiansfortruth.com/edom-in-the-old-and-new-testaments/”
I’ve just briefly read it through, and didn’t recall anything specific that stated the destruction of the Edomites has already passed, although two examples of their land being conquered was indeed mentioned. In other words, I don’t think CFT categorically was stating Obadiah is done and dusted, and they appeared to write about a ‘theme’ that Obadiah is a reference to many time periods, including the past. Correct me if I’m wrong though brother.
The piece you referred me to was more on the lines of (1) Edom isn’t modern Jewry, and (2) Edom were not a mixed raced people. Although I agree that Edom isn’t the totality of modern jewry, I’m far from convinced that Edom’s blood line isn’t mixed in there somewhere, but I am cautious about this. The article also writes how Canaan’s offspring aren’t hybrids. The way I understand Canaan is that he is the same as a Moabite – a product of incest. I can only assume that parent-child pro-creation does generate some sort of genetic corruption.
BTW, the word bastard or ‘mamzer’ does refer to a child of incest as well as a mixed breed (mongrel).
Strong’s H4464:
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/strongs-number-H4464/
Matthew 22:30 and Mark 12:25 do contain what is called a ‘preposition of place’ in them, “in heaven”, which you do appear to acknowledge. Whether this is significant or not I’m not 100% sure, and do hope I eventually make sense of it. I obviously cannot refute what it states, but believe each and every word has meaning (unless it’s in italics – which as you know such words have been added for fluidity to the reader). Why the preposition of place? Maybe I’m reading into that aspect too much, I honestly, and sincerely do not know.
As for the book of Enoch, well I suppose the main thing we can conclude is that Enoch was rather special. Doesn’t appear to ‘die’ in the sense of other characters, correct. I cannot locate a reference to it in the KJV, so you could be correct. The Book of Jasher is mentioned (and had yet been removed), but that cannot be said for the Book of Enoch.
Finally, you wrote, “It’s good to hear you don’t associate with DSCI, certain people in it (not all) act horrible to anyone who merely disagrees with their doctrines.”
They’re a ‘cult’ aren’t they? And like all cults they have a leader. They have overlooked Matthew chapter 23 verse 8.
“But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.”
We are supposed to be ‘brethren’, not master over each other. This doesn’t mean we should not correct each other if we perceive error, but there is a way of that.
Finck springs to mind with DSCI, and his followers that will attack you even if you ask a simple question that is against their dogma.
Peace, brother, thanks again for the dialogue.
May Yahweh bless you and keep you safe.
Gareth:
As far as our essays on Edom are concerned, we simply tried to show that from evidence strictly in the Old Testament, it does not appear that there is any evidence that the original Edomites were race mixed, nor did they inter-breed with Israelites.
We do not deny that later on, during the time of John Hyrcanus, the Edomites were converted to the faith of Israel, as Josephus attests. However, we see no evidence in the New Testament that those converted Edomites, who were confined to southern Judea had yet interbred with the Israelites in Jerusalem.
Edomites (Idumeans) are mentioned only once in the NT, in Mark, stating that some Edomites came to Jerusalem to hear Christ, which means that they did not live in Jerusalem at that time.
We do acknowledge that the so-called “Jews” (Israelite Judeans who rejected Christ) allied with the Edomites to rebel against the Romans in two major revolts.
We also acknowledge that there is a distinct possibility that those rebellious Jews who were thrown out of Roman Judea could, in fact, have inter-married with their Edomite allies at that time. So, yes, it is possible that Edomite ancestry could be found in modern Jewry.
“As far as our essays on Edom are concerned, we simply tried to show that from evidence strictly in the Old Testament, it does not appear that there is any evidence that the original Edomites were race mixed, nor did they inter-breed with Israelites.”
We know they mixed with the Horites. The Horites were either a pre-Adamic tribe, or they were synonymous with Hivite.
I’m on the fence on that issue because Horites are mentioned anytime Mount Seir is referenced, and the term Hivite appears whenever Canaanite tribes are listed. On the other hand, Hivites don’t appear in any non-Biblical inscriptions, whereas Horites could easily be the Hebrew word for Hurrians. That would add credence to the theory the term Hivite was a scribal error.
James…..
The Hivites are listed among the original Genesis 10 nations, and we assume they are Adamic….
“And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite….” (Genesis 10:17)
And the Horites are first mentioned associated with Mount Seir, the homeland of Edom, so they are likely closely related to them.
The Canaanites were originally direct descendants of Noah and must have been, at least, originally, Adamic. Esau took his wives from this tribe….
Judges 3:5 tells us that these tribes dwelt closely with Israel and paid tribute to them…..
“And the children of Israel dwelt among the Canaanites, Hittites, and Amorites, and Perizzites, and Hivites, and Jebusites:”
It’s hard to believe that the Israelites would have allowed non-Adamic peoples to live so closely among them….white people want to live as far away from diversity as possible.
Remember that all of Jacob-Israel’s children took non-Israelite wives from the Genesis 10 nations, including Canaanites.
Later this became prohibited not because of racial incompatibility but because of religious concerns….fears that pagan spouses would lure Israelites into idolatry.
Thanks Gareth and God bless I just realized I sent the wrong article, my apologies. I’ll look to see if I can find the one I’m thinking of. Either way I too appreciate the dialogue and learning.
God Speed
——Lindsey R——–
Great to hear from you Lindsey. Oh, your letter broke my heart. Thank you for thinking about me. Now I feel terrible for passing on my human weakness. I suppose I was over-reacting. It just gets harder the older you get and I guess for me, as a man, not feeling like I have that Strength to fight and or survive — do the things that I need to do to live a rural life, can be frustrating. Living Rural is not easy.
I wish I could “inspire” more. If you get anything from my words, it would be to encourage you and your husband to get yourselves in some place Rural. A place where you can have at least 5 acres. I can’t remember what you have already shared, so I apologize if I don’t remember. But you can do a lot on 5 acres.
In regards to your daughters …………….. Pray often and have Faith that the Lord will keep and protect them. I’m sure your husband is a great father. This is all a daughter needs in the physical world — an attentive, loving father. Teach them the ways of Jesus — modesty. But most of all — SECURITY. They don’t need boys! They don’t need young men. Some day trust they find a good Man.
I don’t know the future. I am seeing some push-back. Things might not be as bad as I can assume they are. This whole Covid thing I believe is over. Because of the push-back. No way are they trying that again.
The immigration thing is a real issue, however. But getting out of the cities will pretty much solve that problem. If you can get North into the colder regions, that helps too.
Gareth is going to sign-up for an email account and I will do the same and we can have “fellowship” in private.
Bless you Lindsey. 🙂
West
WEST,
So thrilled to read your response. Do we all, not have human weakness, that we share on this cite 😉. In regards to over-reacting, I completely disagree with that assessment! I hope you forgive me for saying so. I think you, like myself, and many on here, are just ‘burned out’, and at times, the darkness can become overwhelming.
Referencing my daughters, they are truly blessed. They have a father who is strong in his faith, strong in spirit, and will fight to the death for them. We are currently residing in a town in GA, which borders South Carolina. In three years, my husband will have done his 20, and we are free to move, where we please. I love the North (shockingly, I LOVE harsh winters), but I am a Yankee girl from Maine. I do find, the white population in the Northern region and Midwest, to be extremely liberal, which is mind boggling to me; however, living here in the South, has almost driven me to insanity, for obvious reasons.
I too, vacillate, in my disparity. There are days, I feel there is no hope, and whites should just
surrender; then there are days where I think, we might, just might, have a chance. I constantly hear, “ have faith”, “don’t lose hope”, and like you, I am trying. Some days are better then others.
As far as immigration is concerned, you may disagree with me, but I don’t know that I so much believe it’s about replacing the white man (though I do feel, that’s a added bonus), as it’s more about bringing in more ‘slaves’, to ensure the Jews wealth and world domination.
Anyhow, like you, I get tired of beating the ‘Jewish’ dead horse, but I will admit, it crosses my mind, daily. I guess the old mantra, “one day at a time”, is pertinent here.
I hope you are feeling better, I hope each day, is a just a bit better then the last, in regards to your health.
Time to put my girls to bed. Have a nice evening and we shall talk soon.
Kindest Regards
Lindsey
——-Lindsey R——–
Thank you.
What I find ironic is that I’ve been in Georgia now for about 4 weeks. I used to live here. Moved to Atlanta in 2000 for work. Left in 2016. But for a couple years still kept my house in Georgia and also lived in Eastern Washington.
Long story short ……. we found what we were originally looking for in North Idaho (20 acres), so we sold the Georgia home, but still have family here.
Since my health hasn’t been great (primarily low back deterioration) we have been spending the winter months in Georgia.
My Point — because I have now been here for 4 weeks, YES, you are right — I am extremely frustrated! Burnt Out already and it has only been 4 weeks.
I mean the comparison from North Idaho to the South is impossible not to miss. It literally feels like I just entered a war zone. So, when I drive around where I used to live — which WAS a very small enclave of North Atlanta — a place referred to as “East Cobb” — which USED to be 95% upper middle class White People — I drive around and ALL I SEE are brown and black people driving Land Cruisers and Porsche Cayenne suv’s …… and there are no more White people ………….. I start to FREAK OUT!
I just don’t get it. I know these people are not doctors and lawyers because they can hardly speak, so where are they getting all of this money? My in-laws have a home in an old neighborhood that is now at least 50% non-white. Not cheap. It just boggles my mind.
Great news on your front. I highly encourage you to look at North Eastern Washington/Eastern Oregon/all of Montana except Missoula, North Dakota and even places in South Dakota and Wyoming. I drive through Utah and even though Salt Lake City has some very brown parts, I still like Utah. I’m not a Mormon fan by no-means, but there are still many White Mormons, who are very nice people.
A town in North Idaho that has not yet gone full Liberal would be Bonner’s Ferry. They are the last bastion of Conservatism. They recently resisted an attempt to infiltrate their public library and the politicians from my little town just South started calling Bonner’s Ferry Knotsees and the like.
Take care. Going to create an email account today and I’ll drop it into my next comment.
Peace, West
protonmail is a great anonymous email platform.
——–Lindsey R——-
[email protected]
If you ever want to speak in private. Peace. 🙂
Hi West.
Well that saves me creating an email address 🙂
I will send you an email either today or tomorrow (not on my own laptop at the moment, and the company I work for prohibits personal emails – but not CFT LOL).
Chat soon.
WEST,
I will try and email tonight, and if not tonight, the first of this week.
I am VERY familiar with East Cobb, as my father moved there 4 years ago, with his new Jewish wife: isn’t that lovely 🙄 (I typically don’t use emoji, but in this case, i thought it was fitting). She calls East Cobb, a Jewish enclave; needless to say, my father and I don’t speak anymore or very rarely.
I too, cannot understand where the money comes from for blacks to buy these cars and other things, we know they can’t afford it. My husband likes to joke, it comes from us (whitey) and all the taxes we pay to give them their nice expensive little toys. He is more laid back about it than I am, because frankly, it infuriates me, beyond words.
Anyhow, yes, Utah, is actually the number one place we have been looking at. My family use to ski there regularly, and found most of the people very nice. Have to run, time to practice reading with my littles. I’ll send an email shortly. As always, a pleasure to talk.
Kindest Regards,
Lindsey
Jewish “blood sacrifice” is still being practiced to this day…
For those who are unaware, adrenochrome procedures take blood from gentile children under extreme duress induced by torture and inject it into lecherous old individuals, primarily jews who use it as a life-extending “treatment”.
The extreme torture aspect is needed to raise adrenaline levels in the blood before it is removed from the child.
This vile procedure is actually a good description of the “blood sacrifices” that have been practiced by jews throughout history.
Before the advent of modern science, gentile child victims of these horrendous procedures usually died from the procedure. Today’s blood transfusion techniques make it possible for these child victims to live and eventually outgrow the need for their blood once they reach puberty. They are then used as sex slaves and worse, organ transplant “donors”.
Israel has a thriving illegal “organ transplant trade” from past adrenochrome child victims to Palestinians that the IDF maims and murders. It is well-known in Palestinian circles that when Palestinian bodies are returned to their relatives, there are suture marks where organs have been removed.
Jewish “blood sacrifice” is real and is being practiced to this very day…
Hey CFT, what are your thoughts on Fascist leaders like Benito Mussolini and Engelbert Dolfuss of Austria? I see how Mussolini rose Italy’s economy, he did many positives for his country, it is also interesting that he wanted to recreate the Roman Empire.
I found it odd learning that National Socialists actually attacked Dolfuss, causing some friction between Fascists and NatSoc’s. Sorry if this is the incorrect area to pose this question, I am just interested in your thoughts.
Hi West,
You asked, “Are you implying that the Sacrificial System operated “outside” of Moses’ purview; and or was later abused just prior to the arrival of Jesus’ coming upon the scene?”
The latter, friend.
I believe there is a distinction between offerings to the Father (symbolic of our Faith that whatever we have offered will be returned tenfold), and sacrificial penance.
I also believe that it has been abused many times, in many periods throughout History.
In the time Yashua was walking in the Roman province of Judea (Jews at the time where basically living in Judea, I refer you to The Book of Obadiah verses ten through fourteen, where the Father speaks of the actions of the Edomite Jews as Judah and Benjamin was taken into captivity).
These Edomite Jews perverted the offerings/sacrifices and turned them into a business. This is similar today where our justice system is operated by corrupt Freemasons (proselytes) and Edomite Jews (the scribes and pharisees during Yashua/Jesus’ period) and those with finances simply pay a ‘fine’ for their crimes. Think of all the companies that should really be shut down and their CEO’s put in prison, but instead they simply pay a fine. I am comparing this modern day perversion of justice to the Edomite jews version of offering/sacrifice in Jesus’ time. It DOES encourage the continuation of sin for the wealthy.
You also stated, “Ps….there are White Atheist Nationalists who use the Old Testament against us to prove that God is a Jew God. I don’t believe you are doing this. But, this statement would be similar to something they might use as an argument against Christianity.”
Until one realises who is who in the Bible scriptures, none of it makes any sense I’m afraid. The white nationalist you speak of are blind at the moment and think Moses was a ‘jew’, Abraham was a ‘jew’, Noah was a ‘jew’ etc.
I pray the Father removes their blindfold and soon.
Hope you’re okay btw, West, and happy new year.
——-Gareth——
Gareth,
Thank you for the prompt reply.
During the time of Jesus were the Pharisees, as you say — “…They (the filthy Edomite Jews) were teaching that you could sin, so long as you could pay their merchants for an animal to sacrifice. Sin, then buy an animal, then be cleansed, then repeat, repeat, repeat…”
I do not find anything like this in the SCRIPTURES. I am aware that the Pharisees were doing bad things. What you describe actually sounds more like the Roman Catholic Church. Then of course Modern Christianity, without the animals. Modern Christians simply say, … don’t worry about your sin of Adultery, as you are saved and can never lose your salvation…..go in peace.”
I am not discounting that which you have said, btw. Just want to expound upon it.
About 2 years ago — we had quite a healthy debate over this issue of “Edomites”. Who were they? Who are they today? Etc., etc.
My reference point is Charles Weisman’s book — “Who is Esau-Edom”.
This is a fascinating conversation. One that I am very keen to listen, learn and know.
I will direct you to a few of those articles that we discussed years ago — https://christiansfortruth.com/?s=esau+edom
This would be the best article in which at that time CFT made a case that Charles Weisman could be “Over-Stating” the amount of non-whites posing as Israelites just prior to and during the time of Christ. https://christiansfortruth.com/who-is-esau-edom-the-traits-and-symbolism-found-in-modern-jewry/
The Ultimate Question here is this —- “How much does Modern Jewry have in common with the Men who existed during the time of Jesus?” We are talking DNA here.
I do not believe there were Mongrel Looking peoples (Modern Jewry) walking around the Levant during the time of Christ.
However ………… I do see it possible that men like David Beckham certainly could have existed. I only use Beckham as an example of physicality. He looks very White, but is 1/4 Jew and is proud to be a Jew. Paul Newman comes to mind as well.
But someone like Howard Stern, Albert Einstein, Ruth Bader Ginsburg — with that distinctive mongrel look, big nose, big ears??? I highly doubt it.
Fascinating Topic. Would enjoy hearing more of your thoughts.
If you have not read any of those articles that are listed as part of the Search Query above — please have a look.
I’d enjoy your understanding/interpretation.
Cheers! Thanks, West.
Ps….. you asked “hope you are ok btw”. Do we know each other? Or were you just asking in general? Curious.
West
Well I never knew that Beckham was a jew. This is why we used to make them wear hats or wear a badge I suppose, because they often can pass as white (or brown, or black…..blinking chameleons they are). I’ve just googled Beckham and there isn’t anything too obvious (unlike Newman who you mentioned who has that Herman Munster long forehead). Beckham does have ‘teardrop’ eyes though, and a bit of a Dracula hairline.
Back to the merchants at the temple, you wrote, “I do not find anything like this in the SCRIPTURES”.
The nearest scriptural evidence for this is in Matthew chapter twenty one:
“12And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
13And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.”
They were clearly selling animals for sacrificial/offering purposes, and also Jesus was clearly displeased with this. I have, however, inferred they were effectively leading others astray, and were turning the offering/sacrifice into a BUSINESS, and this did anger the Father in the flesh, Yashua.
You wrote, “About 2 years ago — we had quite a healthy debate over this issue of “Edomites”. Who were they? Who are they today? Etc., etc.”
I’ve read some of the comments, and do agree with your stance that they are effectively Cain’s seedline that mied with pre-Adamites. What we need to ask ourselves is whether it was Cain’s innate nature or the pre-Adamites innate nature that makes them be as they be?
My opinion (and it is just that) is that Edom is an aspect of modern Jewry, as opposed to the totality of modern jewry. Those you named are effectively Ashkenazi Jews, correct? They were once known to the world as Hittites (old architecture depicts the Hittites as having sloping foreheads like the Rothchilds and Kissengers). I think these are of Japheth’s grandson Ashkenaz:
Genesis chapter ten:
“2. The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.
3. And the sons of Gomer; ASHKENAZ, and Riphath, and Togarmah.
Hope you can agree it’s hardly a stretch to go from ashkenaz, to Ashkenazi (Jew). Note the name Magog in there too. There is a festival in Rothschild’s Fiefdom the City of London for Gog and Magog.
https://lordmayorsshow.london/history/gog-and-magog
Now if you look at the depictions of the Neanderthals in various museums of the world you will recognise that sloping forehead so common in ‘Ashkenazi’ jewish leaders. My OWN conclusion is that the tribe of Ashkenaz (Japheth’s grandson) mixed with the Neanderthal and produced the ‘jew’ known as the Ashkenazi.
As for Esau/Edom, they are surely the product of Esau interbreeding with other tribes of the area, producing genetic corruptions. Some of whom will have no doubt mixed with the Hittites and we have the genetic mish mash of corruption we currently refer to as a ‘jew’ (of which Beckham is one).
“I do not believe there were Mongrel Looking peoples (Modern Jewry) walking around the Levant during the time of Christ.”
Probably not as obviously ugly as the Ashkenazi variety, no, but they were still not ‘planted by the Heavenly Father’ and will be uprooted.
Love your thought on the Book of Obadiah btw, I believe verses 1-9 are happening in present time (working on the assumption that Esau IS MIXED into the Ashkenazi bloodline as of 2024).
Yeah, we’ve spoken before, buddy, on this forum, no idea which thread though.
——Gareth——-
Yes, I do know you from here. When you asked how I was in particular, I wondered if perhaps you are someone I know elsewhere using a different name as I have spoken of, in other places, dealing with less than normal health recently. No big deal. All is good. I’m just getting older and unwilling to face it. 🙂
Ok. Wow. Lots of things to think about.
Beckham — what I find very interesting, and I’m sure you as well, when men or women like Beckham are young — they look unbelievably White. Compare Beckham today with videos or photos when he was a teen! Amazing.
The most interesting Topic for me is —- What did the racial landscape look like during the time of Jesus and during the time of the Israelites? I just don’t think we will ever be able to speak in absolutes. I wish the writers of the Scriptures were as curious as I. 🙂
Describing people by how they look, etc.
I sort of theorize it this way —- I suspect 98% of the Israelites during the time of Moses and the time of Jesus were White. It is hard for me to imagine that the Israelites would have allowed hook-nosed “jews” into their realm. Or mixed race White peoples.
I have to believe that the Pharisees and the Sadducees were us. With a few “infiltrators” mixed in. Men looking like Beckham, as an example.
We here have debated over the racial make-up of Edomites during the time of Jesus many times. Many have made good arguments that they were of mixed race; and others have made great arguments that they were pure White.
I just don’t know.
In regards to the prophecy of Obadiah, that too has been highly debated. Was it already fulfilled? Is there a future fulfillment? Again, I don’t know. I hope and pray that it has not. But I don’t know.
I have picked up “Preterist” tendencies along my journey. I am being “black-pilled”. Not sure if that is because of my age and life experience. My flesh is weak. I want to be rescued from this body but I have had my hopes up too many times now. So, I’ve gone into protection mode if you will. Not getting my hopes up anymore. Accepting the reality that I will get sick and die like every man before me. And bad things could happen to me before I die as a result of my beliefs.
I want to see “Victory” over the jew in my life. I can’t stand to watch them win day after day after day. Sadly, I’ve kind of accepted that all that is left is Luke 18:8.
Sometimes I wonder that the END of this failed experiment is when the last White man dies on this earth.
I don’t know how to answer your questions as it relates to what transpired Pre-70 AD. Is Obadiah fulfilled or yet to be fulfilled? As an example.
I suspect that the non-believing Israelites who were not in Judea in 70 AD, most likely took to the satanic religion of what we know today as Judaism. Talmudic Judaism. Then they took non-white wives and 500 years later we get what we now have today — Modern Jewry. Everything you say about the khazars could very well be true.
I tend to believe, but can’t prove, that Cain went East and took a yellow for a wife. So, that would result in mixed race peoples during the time of Moses and the time of Jesus. As well as Esau. But it is hard for me to imagine that our kinsman Israelites would have tolerated such.
But ……. there is nothing new under the sun and we tolerate it today, so it is possible we tolerated it back then. Were “Strangers” mixed race White peoples??? I don’t know.
Did Phinehas spear a non-white woman?
I do agree with what CFT wrote — https://christiansfortruth.com/who-is-esau-edom-the-final-exit-of-jewry-from-the-worlds-stage/#comment-149307
Which leads to this article — https://christiansfortruth.com/who-is-esau-edom-talmudic-jews-vs-christian-israelites/
Which is a good one. It is a critical review of Weisman’s book, “Who is Esau-Edom”.
I have multiple copies and I would pass out a copy to a White person in a heart beat. It is what I believe in theory.
I just can’t be absolute in what a believe. I can theorize and I do. I “think” I know; but can’t prove what I know.
I do enjoy hearing what others believe, however. The more “input” I can get the better.
In closing …………. I pray I am wrong about the future. I hope I see Jesus return in my lifetime and take the vengeance that is so desperately needed and desired.
I know there are many of us like you that deserve it. We’ve seen enough. It’s too painful to continue to watch our People get trampled on. Enough is enough!!!
I can’t even read books about the aftermath of Germany post ww2. And I think I have it bad!!! I have the book, “Gruesome Harvest” and I can’t even read it. I start, then I have to put it down.
Can’t watch the documentary Hellstorm. Nope. It is NOT for us — these resources. It is for our blind, deaf and dumb family, friends and neighbors. But from my experience, they all don’t give two craps. I live in an area of the Country where everyone is White. Except for the “Indians” that are still around because of the many Reservations I live near. But my tiny little White town is full of White Liberal anti-racists and it kills me. They have no idea of how blessed they are to live where they live. I wish 500 negroes would show up just for one day! The place will always be White because the winters are just too harsh. But when summer comes, I am seeing more and more non-whites taking to my town as “tourists”. And it ain’t cheap! Where do they get the monies???!!!
Peace to you Gareth. 🙂
Hi West,
“Beckham — what I find very interesting, and I’m sure you as well, when men or women like Beckham are young — they look unbelievably White. Compare Beckham today with videos or photos when he was a teen! Amazing.”
Yes I know this, I once informed a ‘jew’ on Bitchute that although a jewess in her twenties may look attractive, they quickly descend into the ugly troll they were always destined to be. LOL, he didn’t reply.
I’m in England and we have the saying, “an English Rose” in reference to our women, who although lose their sexual appeal as they age, still retain a certain beauty in their face and especially in their (often blue) eyes.
You wrote, “We here have debated over the racial make-up of Edomites during the time of Jesus many times. Many have made good arguments that they were of mixed race; and others have made great arguments that they were pure White. I just don’t know.”
Not to sound too harsh, but I am unsure of why there would be any confusion over this, for me it is very clear.
I refer you to Genesis chapter 26, verses 34 and 35:
“34. And Esau was forty years old when he took to wife Judith the daughter of Beeri the Hittite, and Bashemath the daughter of Elon the Hittite:
35Which were a grief of mind unto Isaac and to Rebekah.”
Unless the word ‘Hittite’ is a tare sown into the Bible by the scribes, then this clearly shows scriptural evidence of Esau mix racing with the Hittites (google Hittite art, and look at their sloping foreheads). It is also clear how much this race-mixing of their son troubles Isaac and Rebecca.
Again, not sure why there should be any confusion over whether Esau was guilty of adulterating his bloodline and fathering mamzer offspring? Have I read Genesis chapter 26 verses 34 and 35 wrong, and if so, how? Are the Hittites referred to NOT the Hittites recorded in History? (They had sloping foreheads).
You believe Cain went east and mixed with the Dragon seed? I’d never considered that to be honest. I always thought that he mixed with pre-adamites, but that would include the Neanderthals of Europe (again, sloping forehead).
I guess we’ll never know.
Our ancient ancestors certainly lived alongside Canaanites, but whether these people mingled with Cain’s offspring is unclear. As I understand it, the Canaanites are akin to the Moabites and are not mixed, but the product of parent-child reproduction (incest).
I had to google the word, “Preterist”, as I didn’t know what that meant. You learn something new every day eh 🙂
Back to Obadiah, I PERSONALLY believe that the prophecy covers a large time period. Verses 1-9 describe the end of Esau (at mainly the hands of other non-Israelite tribes). As I believe Esau is mixed in with the Hittites (as the Gen chapter indicates), and these are the ‘Kazars’, or Ashkenazi jews, then it has yet to be fulfilled, as these filthy Esau/Hittite/Japheth/Neanderthal evil hybrid creatures are STILL around.
Verses 10 through 14 is Historic and describes their actions as the Kingdom of Judah were taken into captivity. I’m still trying to figure out the rest, but I’m certainly not a ‘Preterist’, as although some prophecy has been fulfilled not all of it has (how could it be, that doesn’t make any sense to me?).
We, as Israelites, cannot bear to view many things, brother, so I can sympathise with your aversion to Hellstorm. We all have a ‘moment’ that took us away from this scripted narrative of the world, and made us examine things more eruditely. For many it was 911. For me it was the credit crunch in 2008. I was in S.Korea at the time, and had time on my hands to do research. I leant a lot about economics and politics and have much hatred for those involved ever since. However, at that time I couldn’t stomach, and had a strong aversion to knowledge of adrenochrome and anything involving the abduction and torture of children.
We live in hell, don’t we? The upper layer of hell, but hell nonetheless. There is a Prince to this world, but as we are assured, he has been judged and defeated. Time just has to unfold as it will unfold, and we will be the witnesses and judges of such vile creatures (fallen angels, ‘jews’, etc).
Sorry to hear about your health, bud. Take as much vitamin C as your body can handle (it can make you ‘pump’ like you’ve eaten loads of brussel sprouts lol). Vitamin C is like ‘soap for the inside’.
There’s a lady called Dr Suzanne Humphrey’s who gives lectures on vitamin C. I highly recommend her talks.
https://drsuzanne.net/dr-suzanne-humphries-oral-intravenous-vitamin-c/
Peace to you too, brother. Chat soon 🙂
——-Gareth——–
Thanks for the reply. I really enjoy the fellowship.
Do you have an anonymous email account we could speak outside of CFT?
“….You said — Not to sound too harsh, but I am unsure of why there would be any confusion over this, for me it is very clear. I refer you to Genesis chapter 26, verses 34 and 35……
Can’t disagree.
I guess where I am stuck is in how mixed race peoples would have been dealt with by Israelites in the time of Moses, leading into the years just preceding the time of Jesus. Could they have been “Strangers”? Did Phinehas spear a mixed race couple? I think so. What did she look like?
In regards to non-whites, for me, I have a very simple formula — Pre-adamites.
I have come to believe in the theory that God planted the yellows, the reds and the black in various parts of the world pre-Adam. For what reason??? Who knows. Why did He create Mosquitos. Some say many of these nefarious insects and animals were a result of Adam’s sin. Then the Nephilim theory gets thrown in. I’m not discounting Neanderthals or anything like that. I just put them in the pre-Adam creation.
Angel Hybrids??? I doubt it, but who knows.
CFT had a great comment on one of those articles — there is Adamkind and everything else.
But most importantly for me, just trying to have some grasp of reality of how these non-whites or mixed race non-whites or mixed race Adamites would have been dealt with amongst our Peoples.
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at all if they were tolerated. There is nothing new under the sun, is there.
I suppose I “push-back” if you will on this Edomite theory only because that other side of CI seems to think that Israelites never did anything wrong and it has always been “jews” making the mess. From Cain, the devil’s flesh born son (which I disagree), to Judas the Jew to the Pharisees the Jews ….. etc., etc. All Jews! No Israelite ever made a mistake.
Never taking any accountability for our own Sin.
The Truth lies somewhere in the middle, I’d suspect.
You said — “….You believe Cain went east and mixed with the Dragon seed? I’d never considered that to be honest. I always thought that he mixed with pre-adamites…”
I consider the Yellow people as a pre-adamite creation. Do you call them “dragon seed” metaphorically?
There was a guy once on the forums 15 years ago who had some great research as to the Yellows. His research pretty much proved the theory that the Yellows are the oldest upright bi-ped hominids on the planet. I thought that was very interesting. Just never saved any of his documentation.
The “Japanese” are of interest to me. I just have this speculation that a few of our men made their way East and created what we know as the Japanese peoples. Just a theory.
I speculate Cain made his way East only because we know he took a non-white for a wife, so what “race” would be closest to the Garden? That would be East, where the yellows were planted. No way did Cain make his way into the deepest parts of Africa. The Red peoples seem to have been planted in the remote corners of the earth. So, the yellows make the more sense.
Then someone I heard theorize that there could have been pre-adamites that were very pale in color — white. But not created in God’s image. That was a curveball!
That would make some sense to me. Again, I have a hard time understanding why our People would be so welcoming to other peoples who did not look anything like them. But if there were pre-adamite white looking peoples, that would make sense.
There is a scene in the Original Planet of the Apes. You have the Scientists (Charlton Heston) from the future (seemingly) crash land and find dumb white peoples being used as slaves for the apes. Heston’s love interest as one. Made me think that such an idea could be possible — white pre-adamites not created with God’s Image.
Anyway ………….. what is done is done. We know what to do today. Now we just have to convince/witness to the rest of us.
Cheers! West
Hi West.
This reply is for the message you left below as the ‘reply’ button had run its course.
“Do you have an anonymous email account we could speak outside of CFT?”
I don’t at the moment, brother, but have been asked this before so I do intend to get around to making one. I’ll post it to you when it’s up and running.
“I suppose I “push-back” if you will on this Edomite theory only because that other side of CI seems to think that Israelites never did anything wrong and it has always been “jews” making the mess. From Cain, the devil’s flesh born son (which I disagree), to Judas the Jew to the Pharisees the Jews ….. etc., etc. All Jews! No Israelite ever made a mistake.”
I completely agree with you that being an Israelite isn’t sufficient to make one be righteous nor ‘good’. There is a video series called ‘100 truths the Israelites are white’ which am sure you’ve heard of or seen? Although I enjoyed a lot of the information in it, I disagree with the theory that ALL Israel will be saved. I believe they have misunderstood that, and that representatives of each tribe will be saved, but not every single Israelite since the start.
Also, remember the Bible verse Matthew 23:15
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.”
I believe the proselytes in this verse refers to the Israelites that followed the teachings of the ‘scribes’ and the ‘Pharisees’, whom I do believe are of Edom or other such seed. I believe this because Yashua accused them (the scribes and pharisees) as being responsible for the spilling of all righteous blood from Abel to Zacharias (Matthew 23:35)
Which obviously leads onto the earlier part of Matthew chapter 23, wherein Yashua called them, “Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?” What did Yashua mean by ‘generation’? Surely he meant their seedline, as those in Judea at the time of Yashua could not possibly be personally responsible for the death of Abel. Cain killed Abel, so these scribes and Pharisees are the genealogy of Cain, surely? Logic would dictate this. There is also more when it comes to the scribes and Pharisees (woe unto them) such as them proclaiming they had NEVER been in bondage (er, Egypt, Babylon). Clearly the scribes and Pharisees testify against themselves that they are not Israelites.
Doesn’t mean, like you state, that Israelites are innocent victims in all cases, in fact the northern Kingdom (lead by Ephraim) was totally corrupt and contained “twofold the child of hell” than even Cain’s seedline, the scribes and Pharisees.
In modern terms, we have the Freemasons, who are often no doubt ‘white’ and are quite possibly not got any mamzer blood in them. Freemasons are often behind much of the evil in Europe (and the world).
So I agree, not ALL Israelites will be saved, but a representation of each tribe will be.
Regarding the pre-Adamites. How did they escape the flood? There are those that reason that the flood was local, and yet we find fossils of sea life on high mountains throughout the world. Was the flood local or everywhere? Was Cain’s seedline taken onto the Ark as one of the ‘beasts’ so that Genesis 3:15 can be fulfilled?
I assure you that I still have many more questions than answers, friend. I only discovered Israelite Identity essays around a year ago. Prior to that, I knew the official line of the churches (Jesus was a ‘jew’ etc) was wrong, yet I didn’t know why it was wrong. So the past twelve months have had me doing a lot of reading, not just of scripture, but of much secular work showing quite clearly that the ancient Israelites became the Western Europeans.
There are many questions that I still ponder and they include:
1. Was the flood local, or everywhere?
2. Does Genesis 3:15 confirm that the devil has a literal seedline.
3. If Genesis 3:15 does confirm this seedline, then is that seedline Cain’s offspring (identified by Yashua as the scribes and Pharisees when He accused that genealogy (generation) of murdering Abel)?
4. What happened to Ham and Japheth’s offspring. We were told that Japheth would reside in the camps of Shem. This doesn’t appear to have time slot allocated to it (CFT have an article indicating Japheth are the Slavs in Eastern Europe – I tend to agree with that.
And on and on my questions go 🙂
“I consider the Yellow people as a pre-adamite creation. Do you call them “dragon seed” metaphorically?”
Not sure where they are from to be honest. I did live there once, in Hangzhou. They are at the very least obsessed with dragons and have the image of the dragon everywhere. IF Yahweh did create the Han, then they fell to wiles of the devil very easily.
I’ll post an email address once I’ve set it up, bud.
Chat soon.
WEST
This post is from days ago, so I hope you will still see this. I do not know if you remember me, I posted for the first time on CFT, about a month or two ago; you and I discussed, being ‘black pilled’ and my fear of the future, for my two small daughters. I think about our conversation often, as I see, all that is going on around us, and frankly, I have almost no hope left. I struggle with, wishing I never brought my beautiful little girls into this world, because of the evil and hatred they will face, most of which, my husband and I will not be able to protect them from.
In our discussions, you encouraged me to not give up on my faith and stand strong, and I thank you for that, but now reading, you are struggling with your health and being ‘black pilled’, I feel such intense sadness. I know you don’t know me and I don’t know you, but you helped me, tremendously that day, when we talked back and forth; I honestly don’t know where I stand with my faith anymore, but I hope you know, it’s people like you and Gareth, who give people like me, some semblance of hope. Thank you for that.
Interesting thoughts, even though I don’t agree with them. What do you mean by “pre-Adamites”? Thanks for the Answer.
——-Aurora——-
Not sure if you were replying to Gareth or myself (West).
Nevertheless, you asked about Pre-adamites.
Great first short book for you to read — https://christiansfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Not-Of-One-Blood.pdf
Good article — https://christiansfortruth.com/pre-adamics-in-genesis-adam-was-not-the-first-man/
You say, “… even though I don’t agree with them….”
What specifically, in this comment thread, do you disagree with?
And “why”?
Do you have a Scriptural argument for your belief(s)?
Look forward to what you have to say. Cheers.
Gareth and West, great discussion you got here. Gareth I would say that the Satanic Seedline Doctrine is false, but I commend you for your respect in this conversation. A good article written here at CFT https://christiansfortruth.com/what-really-happened-between-eve-and-the-serpent-in-the-garden-of-eden/#comments
Genesis 3:15 reads as follows ” And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.” It is quite clear here that the conflict here is between the woman’s seed and the serpent’s seed, its clear that White Adamic’s follow the paternal line, it is patriarchal not matriarchal. This verse as Weisman points out in his book; “What About The Seedline Doctrine? A Biblical Examination And Explanation of The Cain-Satanic Seedline Doctrine by Charles A. Weisman.” Shows us that it is a prophecy of Jesus Christ, and his conflict with our adversaries. There is no evidence that Cain was the result of a Serpent having sex with eve (or fallen angel etc.).
I would also point to the errors within the idea that Eve copulated with the serpent, if this is truly the case then we have a problem. Firstly it is that Adam would have partaken in the the act, as we see he ate of the fruit in Genesis 3:12, and is witnessed a few verses later in Genesis 3:17 ” And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;”
Some people with DSCI argue that Adam’s sin was merely accepting Eve back, however this is not what the Scripture and God himself says as pointed out in Gen 3:17.
What’s interesting is that some of them argue the trees represent people, yet they ignore the fact that God said it was okay to eat of other trees; Genesis 3:2 “And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:” Obviously these trees are not representing people or hominids or else it makes Adam a sodomite, because if Eve copulated with a Serpent so did Adam.
I agree with Emry’s interpretation that the fruit and the Tree represent God’s law and knowledge, Good and Evil, something which Adam and Eve were not supposed to know.
Lastly what destroys the notion that Eve had sexual relations with the Serpent is Genesis 3:22 ” And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:”
So according to DSCI logic God must have obtained knowldge through sex, and his concern is of them also eating of the tree of life which also means sexual relations? Obviously not, and again this doctrine gets confusing because they claim on the one hand that the relations was with the Serpent, yet also with the tree of knowledge.
I want to make it clear that I am not a universalist, nor is CFT. We all agree here that White’s are the true Israelites, and only the Israelites and Genesis 10 Nations can have salvation, as the are Adamic. Cain was Adam’s son, most of the Genesis 10 Nations in the OT were not mixed, and Christ came only for Israel, both the dispersed tribes and the wild olive (Gen 10 nations) that are grafted in. I use to be a follower of DSCI here like many others but fell away from it because of its errors. Please check out Weisman’s book its in the book section at CFT. https://christiansfortruth.com/books/
God Bless, and Hail Victory!
——–Elijah——
Elijah,
I appreciate you weighing in.
“…and Christ came only for Israel, both the dispersed tribes and the wild olive (Gen 10 nations) that are grafted in….”
This is how I see it as well.
Hope to see you around more in the future. Peace.
Hi Aurora,
You asked, ” What do you mean by “pre-Adamites”?”
Do you know that the word ‘man’ was translated from the paleo (ancient) Hebrew word ‘Adam’, which finds its route in ‘adom’?
This ancient word is best understood as a transitive verb, rather than a noun: It means to turn ruddy, or to turn red. Only whitey turns red, so the term ‘man’ in the Bible, when in reference to ‘Adam’ means whitey.
Quick reference:
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/strongs-number-H119/
So a pre-Adamite is essentially a creation of the Father made before Adam (man).
A pre-Adamic walking biped can be similar to whitey, but is not Adam (man). An obvious example would be the Neanderthal.
Adam (man) was created in Genesis chapter one, verse 27.
Whereas the other walking bipeds (often confused in modern times as being from Adam, e.g. the Chinese) where created in Genesis chapter one, verse 25 (therefore PRE-Adamic). They are referred to as ‘beasts’ in the Bible (which I realise in 2024 is completely politically incorrect, but that’s just the way it is).
Hope that made sense?
Thanks for your Answer, Gareth and your explanation on the Term “pre-Adamite”.
I’ve read that the Name Adam (אָדָם) derived from the noun adamah (אדמה), meaning “soil” or “earth”. When used as noun, אָדָם means “man” or “humanity”.
The Hebrew word for blood is “dam” (pronounced “dahm”). The Hebrew word for the red, claylike dirt of Israel is “adamah” (pronounced “ah-dahm-ah”). The book of Genesis depicts Yahweh molding the first human being, a hermaphrodite, out of the red, claylike “adamah” like a little girl making mud pies. (Genesis 2:7: “Then Yahweh Elohim formed ‘ha’adam’ (the person) from the ‘adamah’ and gave the person life by breathing into the person’s nostrils.” (In Hebrew, the default gender is male unless you’re talking about specifically feminine concepts, like “midwife,” “priestess,” or “wisdom.”)
I also don’t see how Genesis 1:25 talks about the Creation of pre-Adamites (Non-Whites?). Doesn’t make sense, at least for me.
Do you believe everybody can be saved and a Christian?
Why did you bring up the Edomites/Canaanites and Cain too?
Hi Aurora,
Firstly, thanks for adding to the debate. It’s one of the reasons I enjoy discussions here at CFT, they are not an ‘echo chamber’ where everyone agrees with each out of fear of chastisement.
You wrote, “I’ve read that the Name Adam (אָדָם) derived from the noun adamah (אדמה), meaning “soil” or “earth”
I do not see why this could be incorrect. It is along the lines of, “for dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return”.
According to Strong (are we over reliant on Strong and his team?), ‘Adam’ which is Strong’s H120 is very closely related and derived from Strong’s H119 which is the word ‘Adom’.
Adom (H119) is best understood as a transitive verb, as opposed to a noun.
“be dyed, made red ruddy
To show blood (in the face), i.e. Flush or turn rosy”
Brown-Driver-Briggs concurs with strong and defines H119 as, “verb be red “.
So it’s perfectly possible that Adam does derive from Adamah (which as you are probably aware, is often conflated/used instead of Eretz), and also derived from the verb (transitive verb) Adom. Which is to turn red.
Simple question: Which people start at one colour, then are able to turn (transitive verb) into red? It’s only whitey, friend. No other people start at colour A, and then are able change to colour B (red).
It’s rather clear to me, and if I’ve failed to explain it correctly, or you have evidence that both Strong and Brown-Driver-Briggs are incorrect on H119, then please let me know.
Like I’ve written, this doesn’t dispute the notion that Adamah isn’t also part of the explanation for the word Adam (H120), only that it doesn’t provide the complete picture of the word’s origin, with H119 also being very important when considering Adam (H120).
You also wrote, “The book of Genesis depicts Yahweh molding the first human being, a hermaphrodite”.
That’s a new one for me, Aurora. What do you mean by this, do you mean having both sexual organs? I could sort of understand if you were implying neither male or female due to Yahweh stating making man, “in our image”, but to state the EL Adam had both sexual organs, I don’t quite understand why you would think this? Please elaborate. It also begs the question ‘when’ did ‘Adam’ develop male sexual organs/lose the female sexual organs? Upon the creation of Eve, or upon leaving Eden?
You also wrote, ” also don’t see how Genesis 1:25 talks about the Creation of pre-Adamites (Non-Whites?). Doesn’t make sense, at least for me.”
Please re-read what I have written here in this very post and explain how/why you don’t perceive Adam as a being able to turn (transitive verb) red? Only whitey is able to turn red, and so many seek an explanation for the origin of non-whites. I’m comfortable with the explanation of them being part of the creation in Genesis 1:25 (many aren’t, of course).
Also, you wrote, “Do you believe everybody can be saved and a Christian?”
This is a double question and so I’m not quite sure what you mean. I will try to answer though. No, I don’t believe everyone ‘can’ be saved, nor will be saved. I only believe whitey can be a Christian, and in fact only whitey has created governance based on Christian/Israelite values.
Finally you asked, “Why did you bring up the Edomites/Canaanites and Cain too?”
I didn’t in this particular thread. Still not sure what happened to Cain, was his tribe taken on the ark as ‘beasts’, or where they destroyed in the flood? Edomites and Canaanites are bastards (mamzers). By this I mean they are genetic corruptions through incest.
Chat soon.
Aurora….sounds like you’ve been reading Bible studies written by rabbis. Only a rabbi would have you believe that the first human being was a “hermaphrodite”.
Rabbis also are the ones that claim “Adam” comes from “adamah” in order to confuse you. Adam’s name means “to show blood in the face” or “to blush”. It does not mean “come from the soil”.
Never trust a Jew to tell you the truth about the Bible.
Jews have their own “bible” and it’s called The Talmud, which contains all kinds of babylonian sex cult nonsense, like Adam was a hermaphrodite, and that Adam and Eve had sex with trees in the Garden.
Thanks for the Answer. I was replying to Gareth. First of all I would like to ask, who created the pre-Adamites and where does the Bible talk about them? Because the Bible tells us that God created Mankind.
Why bringing up the Edomites/Canaanites and Cain too?
I disagree with Theory about the “pre-Adamites” and that they lived before God created Adam. Quite contradicts Genesis 1.
Still thanks for the Answer.
——-Aurora——–
I will assume by this comment that you did not read either of the links I provided for you before.
https://christiansfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Not-Of-One-Blood.pdf
https://christiansfortruth.com/pre-adamics-in-genesis-adam-was-not-the-first-man/
I was a Universalist (the theory that the primary races – White, yellow, black and red – all emerge from the loins of Adam and Eve) for over 20+ years of my adult life.
I never “studied” the issue; I simply believed it because everyone around me believed it and my pastor told me to believe it. It was never a topic of STUDY in other words.
I guess “Christendom” defers to Ken Hamm over at “answers in Genesis” as the leading authority on the topic.
Funny — I tried debating Ken Hamm on a Facebook Post and he pretty much belittled me for even suggesting the idea of “Pre-adamites”. So, that went nowhere.
For one of us to try and have a Legitimate Debate within “Christendom” I’d say would be impossible.
Through life experience, I began to Question that theory — that all peoples emerge from the loins of Adam and Eve. The “One blood” theory of mankind.
I’d like to share it; but you don’t seem very interested. I’ve learned that unless a person is already doubting or asking questions — anything I say will be meaningless.
There is a TON of information/research for you. You just have to want to study it.
Bottom Line — Once a person comes to reject the theory that “we are all one blood” the natural reaction is to figure out — Ok, then where did they come from?
The easiest explanation for me is “pre-adamites”. The Scriptures identify pre-adamics as “Beasts”. That probably just turned you off even more. Oh well.
Last Article for you — https://israelect.com/ChurchOfTrueIsrael/beastofbible.html
From the article —
“…In this Bible study, it is my intent to clarify what the Scriptures say on the subject of “man and beast”. It is of the utmost importance that we make the distinction between man and beast, and learn how the Scriptures pertain to these two forms of beings, separately, as well as their relationship with each other. Those of you within the Identity community will readily accept what the Bible tells us of this subject, and you may have already found this knowledge on your own. On the other hand, those who do not study the Scriptures in the same detail as those of use whom “hold the Key of David” and call upon the name of our Father Yahweh may not be as receptive to this crucial understanding of the Scriptures. If this be the case for you, then I ask that you put aside the teachings and doctrines of men that you have been taught in the “Establishment Churches”, and open your heart and your mind to the Holy Spirit, and Word of Jesus Christ/ Yahshua [Father, Son, and Holy Spirit all in one being]. As always with all of my writings, you will notice that this Bible study uses the word “YHVH” in the place of “The Lord” in all of the Bible quotes. This is not meant to confuse those who are unfamiliar with this word. Those who study Hebrew, know that placing the words “the Lord” in place of the name of God [YHVH] in the English translations of the Scriptures was a big mistake, considering that the name does not actually mean “Lord”. By changing Yahweh to “the Lord” we reduce the name of the one true God, to a mere title, and one must also bear in mind that the name Ba’al means “LORD or master in Hebrew”. You can confirm these facts for yourself….”
Peace.
——–Aurora———
This is a much better article — https://christiansfortruth.com/man-and-beast-in-the-bible-who-they-are-and-who-they-are-not/
I had forgotten about it. But, it was right here all along.
Use the ‘SEARCH’ function Top Right.
CFT is the best ONE place source for Information.
Question for you —
You believe all the Races of the Earth have the same original Parent.
HOW??? How is this even possible?
Remove every Icelander from Iceland. Now replace them with 500,000 pure negroes from the Congo. Equally male and female.
Restrict any and all forms of emigration.
Question — In how many years will White or yellow or red people begin to emerge from the Loins of homogenous black people living in Iceland???
5000 years? 10,000 years?
I’d say it wouldn’t take a million years! It will never happen.
But yet you believe most likely that Adam and Eve contained all the DNA necessary for the world to someday be primarily White, yellow, black and red.
Then, and only then — when those races began to RACE MIX — did we begin to see other peoples emerge — Mexicans, Indians (India) and all the other mixed race peoples that are now plentiful today.
Adam was created in God’s image and Eve was created out of Adam.
Do you believe God is multi-racial?
Why do you think ONE group of peoples (the Jews) seek to ONLY destroy White people.
What is the deal there? What kind of aberration occured there?
Why do non-whites never help White nations — when White Nations help non-white nations all the time?
Encyclopedia Briannica 1910 Edition.
Encyclopedia Britannica Vol 10.
The idea of a compact with the devil, for the purpose of obtaining superhuman power or knowledge, is of Jewish origin, dating from the centuries immediately before and after the Christian era which produced the Talmud, the Kabbalah and such magical books as that of Enoch.P211
https://archive.org/details/encyclopaedia-britannica-all-volumes/Encyclopaedia%20Britannica%20-%20Reader%27s%20Digest/
n.b. Encylopedia Britannica Corporation was purchased by the Julius Rosenwald interests in 1920, and since then all material pertaining to the Jewish question his been re-written to conform to the Jewish outlook.
https://www.big-lies.org/jews/jews-frank-britton-behind-communism.html
Can you be more specific on that comment? I looked at page 211 & found only comments about writing, nothing about Jew superhuman power.
Guess who runs Germany …
https://t.me/c/1522891476/31892
This theme I assume. is about jew ritual murder documented during the Third Reich . Both named witnesses , Joseph Goebbels and Robert Ley would become indispensable to transform forbidden words or inspired ideas into reality.
Since evidence abounds through history and the Bible itself is witness of their guilt one is left to wonder why today the accused , jew dominating every written word is professing his impeccability with blood on his hands . What good is fact or testimony. Something vital and good has left this world and the result of diabolical subversion of Truth is our legacy.
It is deserved result of treason, fraud, and liberty ; but still many innocent will suffer as always. But now is there Hope?. What ever jews have done to children or still practice is not the danger . For if murder is thier goal it has been magnified exponentially as a jew art; and far more subtly to thier mutual gratification . But they are not satisfied .
The conformity to the inveterate jew control of air and minds causes a cataplexy of white people , who hear or read actual and/or mendacious palaver of liberal propaganda with gratitude. . But unable to discriminate they must be admonished what is good or bad. But they learn quickly and confess the proscribed moral code.
Some exceptional minds may perceive what is objectively true but have only an impersonal response from indoctrination. Tucker Carlson {among others) is popular to expose conspiracy and crimes of communist agenda and other sensationalism . He is not forbidden because he is relegated to a performer , a television personality, even comedian . So , no one takes it seriously . Least of all he.
The same has happened to churches because truth is only objective doctrine .It has no subjective perception . National Socialism was still born . War preempted its plans to restore moral and Christ’s subjective Truth . I believe this was the first New Testament church, a divine birth , the enemy had to abort. . Objective truth is just another weed until someone can perceive , it is the only Truth and execrate and burn the weeds.
So now 80 years later the jew dominated air is obsessed with demonizing the nascent “infatuation” with Third Reich . Their control of history and thought is confined in either glorification of self or the slander–libel or censoring of any opposition . The state churches is thier voluble false prophet. Why should any one want to restore them?
Spirit is the only reality. The domination of the jew spirit, an absolute evil caused the moribund nature of once healthy culture and his endless idols have conceived moral degeneracy : obsessions with sex , consequent mental “soul” illness ; perversions and endless controversy; with the inclusiveness of everything except the repetition of death and destruction, who no one claims to know.
But instead of naming the great lie most profess a morbid indifference. Identity is legislated and/or idiomatically redoubt of what one knows or believes . Speech is an echo of a profane testimony presuming thier innocence.
The Hope of the world is traded for a resigned capitulation to the absolute evil and all the witnesses of the impostor exploited as the unforgivable sin of antisemitism, And the jew marches on.
Beautifully said, Kurt!
The article states, “The high-ranking German politician, Robert Ley, issued a warning of what would happen if Germany lost the war:
“In case Judah defeats us, where there are cities, towns and cultures flourishing, there would be nothing left. It is their goal — [Hitler] has said it thousands of times — and we have no reason to doubt it. No, Judah wants to have his Purim….now these sadistic people, want to eradicate Germany.”
Perhaps this answers the many questions on this thread.
This ‘High-ranking’ German refers to the filthy Edomite/Canaanite/Hittite mongrel race, that call THEMSELVES jews, as “Judah”, as in the House of Judah. Perhaps due to these Germans not recognising what they were dealing with (Mamzer corruptions: innate evil) they were always on shaky ground?
Gareth
Josef Goebbels wrote, “A Jew is for me an object of disgust. I feel like vomiting when I see one. Christ could not possibly have been a Jew. It is not necessary to prove that scientifically — it is a fact. I do not need to prove this with science or scholarship. It is so!”
I believe Adolf Hitler shared these sentiments with Goebbels. However I think Robert Ley may have been using this term “Judah” here derisively, not literally. Ley understood that this is what the Jew claimed for themselves, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that he agreed with it factually.
Hi Pericles,
Thanks for that quote which clearly shows the Germans must’ve known that the jews were/are not who they claim to be (House of Judah).
Hopefully the Father will take the blindfold off for many of our brothers and sisters, and they too shall see that the jews are clearly not His creation, and the Book of Obadiah can then be fulfilled.
Christians who have never read the Talmud can never really understand what is happening to them or their nations
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/154/451/546/original/eac1210a9e430140.jpg
Most Christians in the churches have never read their Bibles, only what the snake Judeo-Christian pastors expound to them from the pulpits.
Just like in ancient Hebrew times when there was always a remnant who were faithful to YHWH the great I AM, there are Christians today who read and study their bibles daily and who attend churches where the pastors are well aware of the fact that those who call themselves jews are actually of the synagogue of satan.
I know this because I am in such a church and take daily Bible study very seriously as do others in the church I attend. And one can’t know the Bible and not know that the so called jews are edomite imposters who hate God and every good and moral word he has spoken and who want nothing more than they want the utter humiliation and destruction of Christendom.
(It also doesn’t hurt to have read history and large swaths of the talmud, although slogging through all the hate is a difficult chore.) They will fail, of course, because God has already ensured it to be so by the resurrection and enthronement of Jesus Christ.
—–EyesOnGod——
To someone who goes to a brick and mortar church — have you had any luck witnessing to the “Israelite Identity” message to them?
What do they say when you tell them, they — the White Peoples of the earth — are the Israelites of Scripture?
Curious
I do and don’t attend a brick and mortar church. We are a very small group who rent space from those who actually own the bricks and mortar. We have floated from place to place over the years, anywhere we can worship unmolested and under the radar, so to speak. (For example, we continued to meet during the ‘Covid’ lockdowns and never required masking, one of the few churches in our state that stayed open.)
The people of my congregation have at least come to understand and reject the zionist/dispensationalism deception and can see the talmudists for who they are. However, most have not yet ventured into exploring the historical and biblical proofs that many of the peoples of Christendom are the descendants of the Hebrews of the old and new testaments. I discuss these ideas and share related reading materials and slowly some members are beginning to accept that the are and always have been God’s people, descendants of the ancient Israelites. I’ll admit, though, it’s slow going. Most think of themselves as ‘gentiles’, the opposite of jews, grafted into the vine, so to speak, and ‘adopted’ into sonship, because they were not born as sons.
In a sense, I see myself as a bit of a missionary within this congregation of dedicated, Bible-believing, Christians.
Your prayers for God to open their eyes and for me to be able to adequately share what I know would be greatly appreciated.
——-EyesOnGod——
Awesome. Thank you for sharing. Please keep sharing as you progress with your Fellowship.
It is a very curious topic for me. I will be anxious to hear your stories of Victory and Defeat.
I have a “theory”, but I will keep it to myself for the time being.
Thank you so much for responding. I love the Comment Sections when we “Fellowship” with one another. The jew bashing gets old. Needed …. but wears me thin.
Peace.
Thank you, ‘West’. I would be happy to hear your theory anytime you wish to share it!
2 Corinthians 6:14-18
14 Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? 15 Or what harmony has Christ with [k]Belial, or [l]what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? 16 Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said,
“I will dwell in them and
walk among them;
And I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
17 “Therefore, come out from their midst and be separate,” says the Lord.
“And do not touch what is unclean;
And I will welcome you.
18 “And I will be a father to you,
And you shall be sons and daughters to Me,”
Says the Lord Almighty.
Yep. I left the churches when God led me to this site; CFT. I have never stepped in one or looked back since.
Give glory and praise to our kinsman Redeemer.
Another Christian Identity site I found was
https://www.revelationoutpost.com/index.html
One of the problems is, makes you sick to the stomach reading its filth. So the elder ” pastors arn’t doing their “jobs”
That’s a truly horrific picture at the start of the article.
Is that the same type of ‘ritual’ as when these demonic jews harvest adrenochrome from kidnapped white children?
I’ve read it is more than a mere ritual and behaviour to satisfy their blood lust, and more than just the destruction of whitey craved by their father Heylal/Satan/Lucifer, the devil.
I’ve read that it is actually NECESSARY for their survival as physical entities.
The jews are the origin of our horror stories regarding vampires, and like vampires, they require blood ‘with life in it’ to sustain themselves as there is no innate life force in their insidious beings.
Like many, I often wonder why the Germans failed in their quest, but I also think ‘Jacob’s trouble’ was ordained to happen, along with the ‘flood’ of immigration to white (Israelite) lands (as in Revelation).
Still, as Christians we need to watch over and protect our children from these devils that would scare and blood let them for their elixir ‘adrenochrome’.
I pray all jews are removed to the Antarctic, left there to feed off each other’s blood (which they can’t, as there is no life force in jewish blood).
Interesting article CFT, thanks.
Hi Gareth
Two days ago their was a truck load of 80 dead Palestinians returned to them..and ALL were diagnosed as having their ORGANS REMOVED. I am pretty sure that their blood was also harvested because the Palestinian doctors and families could hardly identify them. What horror these poor people have gone through esp. the children. The local psychologist are saying that the trauma the children have experienced is irreversible as they aren’t responding to therapy.
The
@TheGrayzoneNews
documents Organ trafficking by Israel in Gaza. Mass graves are being dug daily.
https://x.com/Partisangirl/status/1740828279651917860?s=20
Hi sparrow,
The more I read and learn, the more I am convinced they (the jews) are the ‘undead’ from all our horror folklore.
The jews require/need the blood from other creatures like a vampire, and it would appear organs are also a requirement of theirs to sustain animation of their walking corpse.
There are of course many that actually look like the stereotypical vampire.
Jews are ugly rancid creatures, parasitical and capable of so much horror.
Yes, I agree. I might add that the witches hat (pointy with a broad brim) is of course just an old mediaeval hat that jews had to wear by law so that people knew they were jews. Today this is the chliche witches hat, just coloured black instead of yellow or red.
witches and wizards are always depicted in flowing garb… much like jews wore til about 150 years ago or so, and in some places still do of course.
And then there’s the medicines and potions… jews love doctoring.
the list goes on!
There is a closeup still from the movie, Dracula with Bela Lugosi showing him wearing a necklace with the Star of David pendant.
https://yandex.ru/images/touch/search?img_url=https%3A%2F%2Fyt3.ggpht.com%2Fytc%2FAKedOLRBWRL5828zFx4Gds6WbdHI2Q4Q6GgnxMQaOw2A%3Ds900-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj&lr=192&p=1&pos=13&rpt=simage&text=Bela%20Lugosi%20wearing%20star%20of%20david%20pendant
Austrian-Hungary Empire which possessed a high degree of jews in it’s population.
Another Hollywood alum was actor Peter Lorrie who has a real ghoulish look about him as most Jews do.
Israel has been kidnapping Palestinian kids & teenagers for decades, then gutting them for their organs.
With this war, this demonic practice has increased.
Too many times, Palestinian parents got their child/teenage son back, to see that he had been opened from the crotch to the chest & his organs removed.
So who are the real animals?
So when do White people get to pursue class action suits against those who disparage us?!?!?
https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/israeli-settlers-attack-armenian-community-occupied-east-jerusalem?nid=326631&topic=Israel-Palestine%2520war&fid=495586
Israeli settlers attack Armenian community in occupied East Jerusalem
28 December 2023 14:38 GMT
https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/christian-missions-face-death-threats-jerusalem-israeli-authorities-look?nid=326631&topic=Israel-Palestine%2520war&fid=495586
Christian missions face death threats in Jerusalem as Israeli authorities look away
28 December 2023 13:35 GMT
“We feel ashamed that Jews still have to defend themselves at this late day against the ritual murder lie,” a conference of the Bavarian Rabbis declared in a statement issued in connection with the Manau and Daube ritual murder agitations.”
“We declare solemnly,” the Rabbis statement proceeded, “that the sources of Jewish teaching are innocent of blood. There is no Jewish sect whatever which practices ritual murder. We are prepared to prove this statement in any court of law.”
This is exactly what is being said even the very same words now during the Holocaust of Palestine. The jews are now separating themselves as some kind of morality (cough). As these same dual citizens, yea even their US community has been supporting THEIR JEWISH STATE.
I’ve read that “they” are now VICTIMS ™ of this Holocaust of Palestine because the world is appalled. It’s always about their arrogant superiority they believe in. Antichrists.
CFT: “‘I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Almighty Creator. By fighting the Jews, I am doing the Lord’s work.’
—Adolf Hitler”
CFT, do you agree with this quote? I am not knowledgeable on the subject of NS, but—as far as I’m aware—it seems to me that it is essentially the same as the God-less White Nationalism we have today—granted, those practising NS were way more intelligent.
Nonetheless, my point is that they seemed to collectively lack Faith, which is likely why they ultimately failed. You have mentioned numerous times that the only real way to “hurt” Jews—without ever harming them physically or “hurting their feelings”—is to open the Bible, discard televisions—and other forms of Jewish/Satanist propaganda dissemination—and practise God’s Law & Love Him whole-heartedly. That is what they ultimately fear…
It seems to me that NS has—albeit unintentionally—ultimately granted the Jews their “victimhood” status—something which they have NS to thank for. While NS attempted to prevent total Jewish domination of the World, it only delayed the inevitable, in my opinion. As you have stated previously, until we free ourselves from sin and follow Narrow Path from Matthew 7, God will continue to punish us with Beasts such as non-Whites & Jews.
And NS attempted to bypass following the Narrow Path by waging war, addressing only the symptom of the problem—the Jews and non-Whites—and not the root cause—our sinful ways (the Devil inside each of us)…
That is why I personally do not support them.
You are right. Christ Jesus is being held up in the jew/muslim world as a “Revolutionary”. They don’t see THE WORD MADE FLESH as God. They only see him as the MAN in the flesh to this day. And RIGHTFULLY SO not in the Spirit.
This is exactly where A. Hitler went wrong as a Catholic. They love Him but do not know him. Hence all the Orthodox in Russia and Ukraine and the Catholic Germans are still submitted to Pharasaic leadership. AND WHAT WAS ABLE TO KILL THEM WAS THE SAME SPIRIT ONLY WORSE. THEY HAD NOT THE PROTECTION OF CHRIST!!!
This IS the very reason these demon Jews hide to fight their battles because most Christians DO NOT KNOW JESUS CHRIST NOR ARE PROTECTED BY HIM. So we have a HISTORY of dying in their BLOODTHIRSTY WARS.
Read JOHN 18 for more proof. Thank you for your comment.
In Jacob’s Trouble this is one of the most important aspect for true spiritual understanding in HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS (not our own) to come forth to FIGHT OUR BATTLES. As He says in so many verses. I WAS A FIGHTER ALL MY LIFE even as being a woman or a momma bear. I was always against evil especially bullying and the abuse of innocent animals. JESUS CHRIST CHANGED ALL OF THAT to WAIT UPON HIS DELIVERANCE. It’s been a long road.
“Where did Hitler go wrong?” That is a great question. I would like to an entire article and some discussion on that topic.
I want to also add to your insightful commentary via the Holy Spirit about the anguish I had carried re:. “Why did You allow A. Hitler and Germany’s people to be holocausted by such evil.”
Now is the time He is finally revealing it to me. When we as Christians who have sworn an oath to Him (Jesus Christ) to do all that He has commanded, and that it brings us INSIDE His Covenant (protection) which brings us deliverance then salvation.
If we stand outside His Covenant (religion vs Spiritual wisdom in obedience to Him) then we have not His Protection. The Book of Job is the biggest understanding in this. Our will vs His Will, our righteousness vs His Righteousness, our vengeance vs His vengeance, our peace vs His Peace…and on it goes with every aspect of ourselves vs Him. Apostle Paul was changed. King David could not build the temple because of BLOODSHED.
The difference between our righteousness vs His = the antichrist vs Christ. We Must Be Changed By His Truth & Spirit, KNOW HIM BY REVELATION THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT to be changed. This is why there is no forgiveness in blaspheming The Holy Spirit. THE HARDEST THING TO BE DELIVERED FROM IS OUR FIRST INSTINCTS, ie revenge, vengeance and avenge which are by products of fear and anger esp. righteous anger.
THEY ARE THE BEDROCK OF SURVIVAL. But God hates it! He promised to be that authority if our faith is built on His Righteousness. The suffering is great BUT I AM STILL ALIVE BECAUSE HE PROMISED TO NEVER LEAVE ME. I am Witness now BY FAITH (as He is the Author of it) and have seen Him come against or DESTROY His enemies that tried to take my/His life.
A. Hitler WENT TOO FAR FOR FEAR/VENGEANCE (as we all instinctively would) when he surged forth to Russia to eliminate his enemies which said to The Almighty that He wasn’t capable…casting His Promises aside. HAD HITLER WAITED IN FAITH AGAINST FAITH…GOD WOULD HAVE DESTROYED HIS ENEMIES !!! God said He WILL PERFORM IT !!! The restraint we must have is great…FAITH. Satan wants to rule our flesh but death will be it’s reward. God Bless.
Proverb 29:25
25 The fear of man brings a snare,
But one who trusts in the Lord will be protected.
Hitler invaded Russia because he knew Russia was planning to invade Germany from the East.
Had Hitler not pre-emptively attacked Russia, the war, most likely, would have been lost then and there. This was not an act of vengeance, but self-preservation. Christians are allowed to defend themselves.
Were the Soviets victorious because “God” was on their side? Or England? Or America?
Saying that Germany failed because God was not on their side is like saying America won the war because God was on their side, not Germany’s, and that’s just rubbish.
I’m only explaining my witness ACCORDING TO THE WORD. I am not implying that God was on the side of the allies!!! What I said was that Hitler should have waited. In The Word old testament (or first Covenant) WHAT HAPPENED TO ISRAEL WHEN THEY DIDN’T WAIT FOR GOD’S WISDOM BEFORE A WAR? MANY DIED. And if you remember the tribe of Benjamin LOST MANY because they didn’t wait for God. GOD SAYS THAT HE GOES BEFORE US AND IS A REAR GUARD…ONLY IF WE WAIT UPON HIM. HIS WISDOM DOES NOT EQUAL OURS.
Proverb 14:12
There is a way which seems right to a person,
But its end is the way of death.
Russia was not going to attack Germany in the summer of 1941. Maybe it would have happened later. But it must be said bluntly that the war against Germany was unleashed by the Zionized West, not the USSR.
In addition, Germany was potentially inferior to the USSR — both in 1939 and in 1941. And although the Germans were the best soldiers of the WW2 (the Russians were in second place), Germany could not win this war, despite initial successes. “We’re going to lose anyway”, Ambassador Schulenburg rightly said.
Vladimir
Well, what we do know is that German Intelligence had gathered credible information that Stalin was amassing troops and materiel in the West, and not merely for defensive reasons. For example,
“…After Stalin made an important (but then-secret) speech to military academy graduates in the Kremlin on May 5, 1941 outlining a change to offensive doctrine, Communist Party propagandists were ordered to step up “Bolshevik indoctrination of the personnel of the Red Army…in the spirit of burning patriotism, revolutionary decisiveness, and constant readiness to go over to a crushing offensive against the enemy….
“We know about the call-up of Red Army reserves in June 1941, about the concentration of Soviet armies on the western frontier, about orders to the western district command between June 12 and 15, 1941 to move “remote divisions” to the border, moving “only at night.”
“Whatever Stalin was planning, a close examination of the “Special Files” of the Soviet Politburo in the days prior to Barbarossa shows that his armies were not yet ready to “forestall the adversary” and conduct the “powerful strike in the direction of Lublin,” which was at the heart of the Soviet war plans of March and May 1941. Instead, there is a sense of creeping dread as it dawns on Stalin’s generals that the Germans had the jump on them, and a flurry of desperate directives are dispatched ordering maskirovka – the camouflaging of Soviet airbases and tank parks constructed dangerously close to the German frontier, including the construction of dummy warplanes and tanks, with target dates of July 5 and 15 – several weeks too late.”
https://militaryhistorynow.com/2021/05/09/stalins-gambit-did-the-soviets-plan-for-a-1941-offensive-war-against-nazi-germany/
God was with the Germans till 1941 and then it shifted. This was not the final time for victory over the world’s evil of a few thousand years.
You know that the weed has to grow up to the fullest before being torn off and thrown into the fire, as Jesus said. While most of the German population then (during the war and after) were still real Christans from their hearts (the soldiers of the “Wehrmacht” had “God with us” on their waist belts, just a sign) there was the occult secret society around Heinrich Himmler (I mentioned this before) with a kind of Babylonian sun god cult.
When I learnt about this, it was clear to me, why they lost this war. Who denies Jesus (when even a minority within the German people, but a spiritual poison) can’t win!!!They could never have been successful against that allied power of weapons, resources and money – just on the material level, thus it unfolded.
The danger of being wiped out by enemy powers is as old among Germans as the fear arising in and after the Thirty-Year-War (1618-1648) the first trial of genocide on Germans when half the population was killed – a deep trauma. A war of Catholicism against Protestantism (arisen from Germany 100 years before) was used as a pretext of the great killing, first act.
A 100 years before Martin Luther had a vision of streams of blood spilt in Germany. Many of our great minds (prominent people of literature and philosophy) new about those long time plans and dangers. This is why Friedrich Schiller was a passionate spiritual fighter for liberty in all his works which explains why Churchill explicitly said he wanted to have wiped out the spirit of Schiller from the German people.
Moreover the Germans were meant to disappear as an economic competitor of the British Empire from the world stage. GOD obviously did not want them to disappear entirely, though damage and suffering were unbelievably huge.
Some Christians among Germans (those who are aware of the true history and the Bible contents) think that GOD will take revenge for what has been done to his House of Judah (and he perfectly knows those who want to place themselves in the “shoes” of his House of Judah).
My conviction is, the German people themselves should never take revenge at all (the whole thing was just too big, no revenge could heal that, only love). It’s alone GOD’s business to unfold his plans to us and lead human history (the Adamites period of now 7000 years) to the end he wants.
We, all the Israelite people should eventually wake up, recognice, who our GOD is, what our situation is like – and we should go together and stand together and help after all create the bright future on earth our GOD has promised to us.
Jesus Christ used violence to chase the Jewish moneychangers out of the temple. Why didn’t he just pray to God the Father to do it for him without violence? Why didn’t Jesus “trust in the Lord” to protect the temple from the moneychangers?
Why? Because Christ showed us that even devout Christians must take action at a certain point.
Hi Thad
“Why didn’t he just pray to God the Father to do it for him without violence? ”
I’m confused by that question at a theological level.
Surely Yashua (Jesus) WAS the Father in the flesh, or at least ‘part’ of the Father (in the flesh).
Gareth —
“I’m confused by that question at a theological level. Surely Yashua (Jesus) WAS the Father in the flesh, or at least ‘part’ of the Father (in the flesh).”
Jesus prays to the Father on a number of occasions, including Matthew 26:39…
“And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will.”
So we see here Jesus asking the Father to do something, if it is His will. As I said, why didn’t Jesus ask the Father to chase the moneychangers from the temple if all it takes is to have faith?
Thad
Jesus IS God.
And the moneychangers WERE DOING VIOLENCE TO HIS TEMPLE !!!
If you don’t receive what I am saying THEN PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVE SACRIFICED SO MANY IN WARS FOR THE MONEYCHANGERS ?
When we as Christians throw The Word behind us for self defense…THEN DON’T CALL OUT TO GOD FOR SAFETY OR HELP. God PROMISES TO HELP US …BUT NOT WHEN WE ACT ON OUR OWN. I AM A WITNESS TO IT.
PSALM 19:13
Also keep Your servant back from presumptuous sins;
Let them not rule over me;
Then I will be innocent,
And I will be blameless of great wrongdoing.
~~~
God PROMISES victory of we wait upon Him.
Hi Thad,
I can appreciate what you’re saying, and I’ve struggled to reconcile the scriptures at times myself.
One of the main verses that indicates that Yashua (Jesus) IS the Father in the flesh is provided in John, chapter 8, verse 58, where Yashua is talking with the demonic jews.
57: “Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?”
58: “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”
As you’ll know, the term/saying “I am” is used in reference to the Heavenly Father, Yahweh.
Yashua means “Yahweh saves”, or in modern wordage, “Jesus saves”. When Jesus refers to himself as, “I am” in John chapter 8, verse 58, He is letting us know He is the Father walking amongst us.
Your initial question was, ” As I said, why didn’t Jesus ask the Father to chase the moneychangers from the temple if all it takes is to have faith?”
Yashua (the Father in the flesh) could destroy the entire world whenever He chooses to.
Yashua lead a perfect life, as a ‘model’ for us to follow. He leads us to the way, the truth, and the life. What I mean is that He often showed us what WE should do. Chasing the usury artists out of our countries is something the Father would approve of us doing, of that I have no doubt as He modelled this himself when He chased away the money changers (He also modelled the most powerful prayer, in what is commonly referred to as, “the Lord’s prayer”).
I personally think it is much deeper than simply ‘finance’ that Yashua chased the money changers away. They (the filthy Edomite Jews) were teaching that you could sin, so long as you could pay their merchants for an animal to sacrifice. Sin, then buy an animal, then be cleansed, then repeat, repeat, repeat.
“Go, and sin no more” is what Yashua taught. Not that it was okay to sin, so long as you had the funds to buy an animal from the stinking kikes.
Hope this made sense (even if you disagree with it)?
——-Gareth——-
Hi Gareth,
You wrote something, if you don’t mind, could you elaborate on — “…They (the filthy Edomite Jews) were teaching that you could sin, so long as you could pay their merchants for an animal to sacrifice. Sin, then buy an animal, then be cleansed, then repeat, repeat, repeat….”
Are you speaking of the time of Moses? Or after 70 AD?
The system of Animal Sacrifice was instituted by Moses, obviously. Moses was our kinsman brother. In hindsight of course, this animal sacrifice system is archaic, but clearly God allowed for such as it would be a “Shadow of that to come” — Jesus Christ.
I’m just a little confused by your statement.
Are you implying that the Sacrificial System operated “outside” of Moses’ purview; and or was later abused just prior to the arrival of Jesus’ coming upon the scene?
If you don’t mind expounding upon this statement, that would be great.
West
Ps….there are White Atheist Nationalists who use the Old Testament against us to prove that God is a Jew God. I don’t believe you are doing this. But, this statement would be similar to something they might use as an argument against Christianity.
Gareth —
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I agree with what you wrote, that…”Chasing the usury artists out of our countries is something the Father would approve of us doing, of that I have no doubt as He modeled this himself when He chased away the money changers…”
There are a couple of comments here by Sparrow and Mr. 19 who seemed to suggest that Christians shouldn’t take action against our enemies, such as the Jews, but rather we should merely pray to God that He do something about it.
Yes, we “have the Jews we deserve”, but that doesn’t mean we can’t try to fight against them. From how I see it, most Christians do nothing about it, and I don’t believe that makes them “better” Christians.
Yes, we collectively need to turn back to God, but that won’t happen until after Christ returns (“every knee shall bow”), so until then, if we do nothing except pray, the Jews and their minions will do to us exactly what they did to tens of millions of Christian Russians. That is not “Christ-like” to allow that to happen to us or our families.
I don’t believe the National Socialists failed because they “weren’t Christian enough”. I think they failed because it wasn’t time yet for the ultimate defeat of the Jews. We are not yet in the final chapters of Revelation.
Germany lost that battle in WW2, but that larger war is not over, and we will triumph, and it won’t by mere prayer. There will be a moment when we will be commanded to “arise and thresh”…..Until then…..
@ Thad…
First you and others have TWISTED what I am trying to convey and put words into my mouth. In fact I have explained exactly what is in THE WORD. Why don’t you HUMBLY ask God through The Spirit of Truth FOR THE ANSWER ?
Your answers to EVERYTHING is in THE WORD. Try understanding THE WORD WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT instead of your own understanding !
Go to HEBREWS. Go to JEREMIAH. What did GIDEON DO ? You are a perfect example of FEARING MAN more than THE LIVING GOD. AND the very reason this nation USA is cursed with enemies on every side ! In fact IT MAY BE TOO LATE AND THE DOOR IS SHUT ! You make a perfect example why the Prophets we’re targeted ! If you are changed by God, THEN YOU WILL NOT FEAR MAN, PERIOD ! But clearly you are not.
The National Socialists weren’t “godless”. The Jews who write the books on WWII portray them that way. The soldiers wore belt buckles that said “Gott mit uns”, “God is with us”. National Socialism was based on Christian values. Was it perfectly Christian? No. No political movement with ever be perfectly in line with Christ’s teachings.
But no other political movement in history has ever confronted and battled Jewish power head on the way they did, and that’s about as Christian as you’re going to get in the world of politics.
The National Socialists did not give the Jews their “victim card”. The Jews created that all themselves by lying about everything the NS did, and the NS had no control over that. We, the “Allies” helped the Jews get away with those lies for the last 75 years. Jews will always twist history to their advantage because we let them.
Germany lost the war not because it was a “godless” nation but because godless West allied with the godless communists, proving Satan rules this realm. Blaming Germany for the actions of the victors is what the Jews do.
Henry: “But no other political movement in history has ever confronted and battled Jewish power head on the way they did, and that’s about as Christian as you’re going to get in the world of politics.”
Henry, you seem to be missing my point—while NS’s fight against Judaism and ‘Entartung’ (degeneracy) was laudable, it still was, in my opinion, contrary to God’s will. The Beasts, especially the Jews, are God’s Rod of Chastisement to us: “He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.” (Proverbs 13:24)
God loves us—which is why he ‘chasteneth’ (chastises) us for our sinful ways by metaphorically “hitting us with the rod”—sending odious 3rd world Beasts our way to degenerate our nations, eventually resulting in a state of decadence. The Jews are the most intelligent of these Beasts, leading the other, less-intelligent Beasts. They thrive off of our sin.
When we actively fight these Beasts, we become recalcitrant towards God—’scorners’ in His eyes: “A wise son heareth his father’s instruction: but a scorner heareth not rebuke.” (Proverbs 13:1)
You seem to think this very recalcitrance is “about as Christian as [it’s] going to get in the world of politics,” when, in reality, it is about as adverse to Christ (‘Satanic’ https://christiansfortruth.com/how-the-devil-and-satan-are-defined-by-scripture/) as it’s going to get; instead of actively fighting the Lord’s Rebuke, we should instead conform to His Will—accepting His divine Punishments meted out to us out of His Love.
Henry: “Blaming Germany for the actions of the victors is what the Jews do.”
We also should not blame others for what we face—when we point a finger, 3 are pointing right back at us; instead, we have only ourselves and our sinfulness to blame for this hardship we currently face. The Jews point fingers because they exist solely to punish us. Notice how virtually every attempt at directly battling the Jews results in further punishment towards those doing so.
Henry: “The National Socialists weren’t ‘godless’…The soldiers wore belt buckles that said “Gott mit uns”, “God is with us”. National Socialism was based on Christian values.”
Merely calling yourself “Christian” doesn’t make you a Christian; if that were the case, judeo-“Christians” would be Christian. While many NS practitioners may have believed in God—and perhaps even followed many of His Laws—they ultimately failed to see the bigger picture: the Jews and other Beasts ultimately, and indirectly, serve to bring us back to the Matthew 7 Narrow Path—a Path they definitely were not following. Otherwise, none of this would have ever happened
Hello Mister 19.
I’m pretty sure we were supposed to make them stubble, but didn’t, and instead preferred to take trinkets (payment) from them. I refer, of course, to our entrance to Canaanite lands. The Father warned us that if we failed to destroy these corrupt mamzers they would be ‘pricks and thorns’ in our side.
And have they been, then some.
Our proselyte leaders (usually freemasons in my neck of the woods, England) still accept trinkets from the filthy jews.
Nothing new under the sun.
Mister 19,
I think it is impossible to make these kinds of Judgements about a people almost 100 years ago.
I agree with something you said of course — similar to Codreanu’s famous quote — we have the jews we deserve. But I don’t know if we can say that about Germany. I would assume, maybe only a very small percentage of Germans enjoyed the life the jew created in Weimar. I think they were much like some of us today — just too damn busy trying to put food on the table and raising children properly.
It is a very difficult conversation.
Question for you — how should they have dealt with the Jewish Question?
“Removal” seems to me like a good option. And it would have worked, had it not been for the anti-christ that was the United States of America.
My dad served in ww2. Before he died, I asked him whether he was aware of Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh. He said Yes — he knew of their anti-jewish warnings. But my dad was too damn lazy to do anything about it.
Hypothetically — if war was never declared by the Allied powers (excluding Bolshevik Russia), all the Jews would have been deported out of Germany.
Good? It would be a good start, right?
I don’t believe it is “what did they do wrong” but more about “why did White people turn on the Germans”?
Thoughts?
West, you are right—I got a bit too carried away.
My parents both moved to the States from Germany and made sure to immerse me, as much as possible, in German culture, values and tradition (though no history, hence my lack of in-depth knowledge on NS) during my childhood here. Having visited Germany many times, I can definitively attest to what you said:
“I would assume, maybe only a very small percentage of Germans enjoyed the life the jew created in Weimar. I think they were much like some of us today — just too damn busy trying to put food on the table and raising children properly.”
Most Germans are very hard-working, morally-upright and intelligent–though the younger generations are, for the most part, in the gutter…
As to your question, I contend that NS should have focused on re-establishing Christendom throughout Europe. While I agree with “removal”, also, God is ultimately the Judge on that issue, not NS.
It was virtually guaranteed that the (((Allies))) would declare war on Germany. The Germans were most certainly a threat to Jewry worldwide; though –as I have said in my original comment and CFT has also said before—Germany would have been a far more effective “threat” to Jewry if it had practiced real Christianity…
West: “I don’t believe it is ‘what did they do wrong’ but more about ‘why did White people turn on the Germans’?”
The “Whites” didn’t really turn on the Germans, in my opinion. Many Whites in the U.K., U.S.A. and other White countries supported NS—the real adversary to NS was Jewry’s firm grip on those country’s governments.
While many factors that lead to NS’s defeat were outside of its control, I stand firm in my belief that, had NS focused more on Christ, it would have won.
Mister 19
What angers me the MOST ! Is the NON UNITY of SO CALLED CHRISTIANS that, like sheep, went along with the jew FDR and went to war against a brother nation Germany OBEYING JEW ORDERS. This has been a CURSE TO THIS VERY DAY.
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Mister 19….
I do appreciate what you are saying that Germany should have emphasized its Christian mission more than it did. But that was a very troublesome and sticky issue for Hitler to deal with, as the Protestant and Catholic factions in Germany were at odds with each other and at odds with the aims of the National Socialists.
Hitler had both churches sign an agreement that they would not engage in politics, but a number of priests and ministers ignored that agreement and preached against the NS and ended up in concentration camps as punishment.
But Hitler did not want to enter into the realm of religious arguments as he saw them as a distraction from the immediate concerns of the survival of the German nation and people. He rightly believed that the dominant churches had misled the people, encouraging them to accept the Jews and look past their treachery, while ignoring the importance of their racial identity. Real Christianity does both, but organized Christianity has failed miserably on these points.
Goebbels once wrote about Hitler, “The Fuhrer passionately rejects any thought of founding a religion. He has no intention of becoming a priest His sole exclusive role is that of a politician.”
The NS had discussed attempting to promote a new church, the “Volkskirche”, but there simply wasn’t enough interest, and it risked alienating the vast majority of Christians in Germany. Perhaps had they won the war, they would have looked at the idea again.
But neither the Protestant nor Catholic churches practiced authentic Christianity, so how could the Germans be more Christian if the Christianity they practiced either worshiped the Jews (Protestants) and believed the “final solution” to the Jewish problem was conversion?
In order for the Germans to become true Christians and turn back toward God, they first needed to know what it meant to be truly lead by the Holy Spirit, and I don’t think at that point they knew what that was.
Henry, fair enough. This is where my lack of knowledge on NS is showing; thanks for the information, though. I will have to reassess my opinion and do some more research
Mr. 19
If you read about Hitler’s religious views, you will find a very complicated picture. He grew up as a Catholic, but as a young man, he rejected organized religion and embraced science. He saw much of Christianity infected with a Jewish worldview, but at the same time rejected the idea that Jesus was a Jew.
As he got older, his views continued to change. He rejected the German neo-pagan movement and embraced certain aspects of Christianity, but he was conflicted about the churches’ liberal stance on race, which he rejected.
A speech he gave in Munich on April 12, 1922 reveals much about him:
“I would like here to appeal to a greater than I, Count Lerchenfeld. He said in the last session of the Landtag that his feeling ‘as a man and a Christian’ prevented him from being an anti-Semite. I say: My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.”
In an October 27, 1928 speech in Passau, Hitler said, “We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity … in fact our movement is Christian.”
In another speech at Koblenz, August 26, 1934, Hitler said,
“There may have been a time when even parties founded on the ecclesiastical basis were a necessity. At that time Liberalism was opposed to the Church, while Marxism was anti-religious. But that time is past. National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary, it stands on the ground of a real Christianity. The Church’s interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of today, in our fight against the Bolshevist culture, against an atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for the consciousness of a community in our national life, for the conquest of hatred and disunion between the classes, for the conquest of civil war and unrest, of strife and discord. These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles.”
In germany majority with 40 millions were lutheran protestant (i am too like the whole north in germany) and 20 millions are catholic (southern part like bavaria are the big catholic player. I lived there 6 years too and practiced catholicism including church choir — no one cared i was “saupreuss” and evangelisch-lutherisch).
Adolf Hitler made the protestants to the mainstream religion called “Deutsche Christen” (fancy banner they had), and he also said in a speech he is practicing it (even he was baptized catholic like everyone down in austria/bavaria). Sure the catholic priests were salty they were not the chosen main religion…for me, catholics are on the wrong path, now with a jesuit jew tool pope even more.
Henry in reply to Mister 19,
Thank you for the eloquent quotes from Chancellor Hitler r.i.p.
Out of the love I have for this brave leader I just want to reiterate, even from his own words, is the realization and the FINE LINE in believing that we should MOCK what Christ Jesus did AS MAN 2000 years ago. He did what MAN HAS DONE SINCE THE FALL and took it to the CROSS. HE NOW FIGHTS FOR US !!! AND DELIVERS US FROM EVIL as His designated prayer says for us to pray. He goes ahead of us and is our rear guard. HE IS OUR LEADER. A. Hitler went over the FINE LINE of that leadership AS A MAN without the Wisdom of God, but using the wisdom of “man’s intelligence” and was defeated. THIS IS THE LESSON FOR US ALL. God MOVES IN SECRET ACCORDING TO HEARING AND OBEYING THE HOLY SPIRIT. Organized religion such as orthodoxy, catholicism, and MANY MORE do not have the Holy Spirit , therefore are sovereignly led by MAN’S UNDERSTANDING…in which The Word describes as EARTHLY, NATURAL. AND DEMONIC…
1Timothy 4
@Henry reply to Mr19….2.0
Even now so called Christians or others ASK AND INQUIRE THE god Google for meanings and translations (lol) of Bible verses !
Himmler and his dark Babylonian cult (occultism, sun god etc.) was part of their (Germans) downfall – my first idea, when I learnt about Himmler. Moreover the time for a worldwide cleansing was not fulfilled then, not before evil would expand to the utmost extent as in our days.
When even Hitler did not like Himmler at all, he did not stop that occult stuff, one of his big mistakes. Jesus would not accept the German people to go down that road and get lost in spirit.
Hitler mocked Himmler’s pagan mysticism and said there was no place for it in Germany’s future….according to Albert Speer Hitler said of Himmler:
“What nonsense! Here we have at last reached an age that has left all mysticism behind it, and now [Himmler] wants to start that all over again. We might just as well have stayed with the church. At least it had tradition. To think that I may, some day, be turned into an SS saint! Can you imagine it? I would turn over in my grave…”
— Hitler, as quoted in Albert Speer’s “Inside the Third Reich”
And in “Mein Kampf”, Hitler mocked this Germanic paganism:
“The characteristic thing about these people [modern-day followers of the early Germanic religion] is that they rave about the old Germanic heroism, about dim prehistory, stone axes, spear and shield, but in reality are the greatest cowards that can be imagined. For the same people who brandish scholarly imitations of old German tin swords, and wear a dressed bearskin with bull’s horns over their heads, preach for the present nothing but struggle with spiritual weapons, and run away as fast as they can from every Communist blackjack.”
And in “Table Talk”, which I take with a grain of salt, especially with its negative comments about Christianity (likely inserted by the anti-Christian, Martin Boorman, Hitler said,
“It seems to me that nothing would be more foolish than to re-establish the worship of Wotan. Our old mythology ceased to be viable when Christianity implanted itself. Nothing dies unless it is moribund.”
——Henry——-
Henry — 2023 Man of the Year!
Hear, hear. Great Reply. Thank you.
“Armchair Quarterbacks” can be the worst.